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Sami
11-10-2004, 14:37
Is there any difference between the two consoles other than the colour... ie, is one better with better components etc than the other?

Cheers
SAmi

Torf
11-10-2004, 14:39
No

Sami
11-10-2004, 14:40
So they are both able to play DVDrs etc?

haxtond
11-10-2004, 14:41
Nope, one is a big ugly hunk of black plastic while the other is a big ugly hunk of clear plastic. I have the big ugly clear one.

CLH
11-10-2004, 14:43
So they are both able to play DVDrs etc?

Dunno.

My crystal one can.

But then I didn't buy it on the high street.

Torf
11-10-2004, 14:44
So they are both able to play DVDrs etc?

Yup - but you'll need to do the dirty, which you can't talk about here.

kippa2k1
11-10-2004, 14:57
Yup - but you'll need to do the dirty, which you can't talk about here.

Pot Noodle? ;) :dork:

Sabre UK
11-10-2004, 14:57
They are not supposed to play DVDR by design so who cares if they play them or not?

DM
11-10-2004, 15:00
They are not supposed to play DVDR by design so who cares if they play them or not?

I care, I've got footage on DVDR that I play on my xbox? :shrug:

Sabre UK
11-10-2004, 15:05
I care, I've got footage on DVDR that I play on my xbox? :shrug:


It shouldn't matter, as the Xbox is designed to play games and DVDs of which it does.

It was not made to play DVDr so the fact it does or does not should not matter.

DM
11-10-2004, 15:07
It was not made to play DVDr so the fact it does or does not should not matter.

Erm, well it does to the OP, that's why he asked! :thinking:

Silent Bob
11-10-2004, 15:20
Isn't this down to what drive is installed in the box rather than the colour of the case...I have an old black box and a new crystal box, both have samsung drives installed which play ALL discs.

DM
11-10-2004, 15:22
yeah, colour doesn't matter, it's how old it is. All new xbox's will be V1.6 regardless of colour and should have the same components. Older versions will/may be different.

home_bas
11-10-2004, 15:24
Phillips drive in my new Crystal XBox... dunno how good they are from experience, but I've heard:

1) Sammy
2) Phillips
3) Thomson

1 = best

thecheekymonkey
11-10-2004, 15:42
new crystals :-
all version 1.6
all have 8gig hdds
all have (manufac date august 2004) phillips drives which reads :-

cd-r`s
cd-rws
dvd-rs
dvd-rws

and apparently +r`s as well

all are quieter (IMO)
the new phillips seems to run faster as well


as for them not being designed to run dvd-rs , they are, think its a sideline from a normal dvd.

this isnt from a M****ip point of view

u can use your xbox as a dvdplayer, and watch your home movies on them, and they do read dvd-rs without modification (only movies)

home_bas
11-10-2004, 15:51
new crystals :-
all are quieter (IMO)


:eek: how noisy were they before! :D

thecheekymonkey
11-10-2004, 15:53
not that noisy, but some versions where noticably more noisier than others :)

Sabre UK
11-10-2004, 16:12
u can use your xbox as a dvdplayer, and watch your home movies on them, and they do read dvd-rs without modification (only movies)

Fair enough. I didn't know they are able to play DVDR home movies without modification.

Thanks.

DVDWotcha
11-10-2004, 16:59
The drive on my crystal box is useless. I think it's a thompson one. Some discs are ok but others have real problems reading and have to be reinserted multiple times before it will read.

CLH
11-10-2004, 16:59
Fair enough. I didn't know they are able to play DVDR home movies without modification.

Thanks.

It's not just "home" movies either.

I have an extensive collection of archived from TV stuff and I'd like it to play them.

Silent Bob
11-10-2004, 18:48
thecheekymonkey...just the man, lost your URL to your site, now I got my hands on a crystal box I fancy before long pimping it out (LED wise...not dodgy modification before you mods jump on my rear), can you send me the URL top your site again please m8, or email me.

Anyone else tripped there "crystal" box's out?

UPDATE
Tracked you down m8 through Xbox Transformed, just bookmarked your site. :)

thecheekymonkey
11-10-2004, 22:17
Fair enough. I didn't know they are able to play DVDR home movies without modification.

Thanks.

without modifcation, only thing you`ll need is a dvd remote, slap you "home" movie in and away you go :)


The drive on my crystal box is useless. I think it's a thompson one. Some discs are ok but others have real problems reading and have to be reinserted multiple times before it will read.


basically mate, ive never, ever seen a crystal xbox, neither the old limited edition ones, nor the newly availible ones come with any other drive other than a phillips one, and ive seen a few ;).

EDIT : JUST GOT ONE OF THE NEW CRYSTALS WIH A SAMSUNG DRIVE

if you bought it from new, from a shop then fair do`s, i cant explain it, but if youve bought it from some one then the drives been changed....................

It could be a media issue


thecheekymonkey...just the man, lost your URL to your site, now I got my hands on a crystal box I fancy before long pimping it out (LED wise...not dodgy modification before you mods jump on my rear), can you send me the URL top your site again please m8, or email me.

Anyone else tripped there "crystal" box's out?

UPDATE
Tracked you down m8 through Xbox Transformed, just bookmarked your site. :)

heh heh no worrys mate, i`m ordering loads in for next week, ruuning a bit short on LEDs, mail me any time pal.

and before the mods jump on him, this is what he`s talking about


http://www.consoleworkshop.co.uk/download/best.jpg
http://www.consoleworkshop.co.uk/download/side1.jpg

DB2k
12-10-2004, 07:27
Pimp my xbox.. with X to the Z the cheeky monkey, who;s too fast too furious for this ride..

jesus.. weird how some people think having that in their house is nice! No offence intended. I hopey ou and your business do well.. just seems to make as much sense as that lot that do the PC case modding, or who put stupid neon lights on their micras.


edit - and I forgot.. I have a crystal one from back in May. If it is supposed to be quieter then I hate to hear what an original one sounds like. Its like a space station powering up when i turn it on, and like some form of turbine when it gets going.

anephric
12-10-2004, 07:42
Dat looks blingin'. (I'd have one.)

MetalGearAl
12-10-2004, 07:53
I don't like the blue + red combo that much, but the green one looks quite nice.

zantarous
12-10-2004, 08:19
It maybe bling but I do like the way they look. How many LEDs do you need to do that?

Chocovla
12-10-2004, 11:13
Ah well at least you're able to buy the Crystal Xbox. Microsoft Benelux decided in their infinite wisdom they want to keep the "limited edition" aspect of the Crystal Xbox intact and therefore won't be releasing it in the Netherlands:razz: . Any Brits coming to Holland the next few weeks and bring one along ? :nuts:

DB2k
12-10-2004, 12:05
Ah well at least you're able to buy the Crystal Xbox. Microsoft Benelux decided in their infinite wisdom they want to keep the "limited edition" aspect of the Crystal Xbox intact and therefore won't be releasing it in the Netherlands:razz: . Any Brits coming to Holland the next few weeks and bring one along ? :nuts:


you'd need an army of us to lift it..

GoblinUK
12-10-2004, 13:16
Those Xbox's looks superb. How do you go about doing that.

Wombster
12-10-2004, 13:21
wow that green xbox looks great how much do you charge to pimp it up?

*now ponders whether or not to get a xbox

Coolio
12-10-2004, 13:25
same here, i may have to pop to toys r us now and get the new crystal one and flog my black one

anephric
12-10-2004, 13:29
Yes: I'm interested too?

How much, dogg? I need to get pimped, fo' shizzle.

GoblinUK
12-10-2004, 13:51
Can you come round my house like XZibit

Coolio
12-10-2004, 14:33
Can you come round my house like XZibit

u ride your x-box? u dirty dirty dog :nono:

thecheekymonkey
12-10-2004, 14:58
heh heh, thanks for the feedback :D

i`m not stupid, there nt to everyones tastes, its all a matter of opinion, the blue on with the red jewel is my xbox, unfortunatly i wont be doing that mod to order as its not cost effective, and takes around 12 hours just to do the jewel alone.
originall i was gonna do it blue green, but decided to try red ah well , cant win them all.

will think about doing it for people if i can find a quicker way of doing it :(

as for pricing, i do a mail order service @ £60 including return delivery, but that does include the led mod on a joypad.

seriously though chaps, this does take a long time, around 10-12 hours, i try to keep the wiring down, and as inconspicous as possible, so with the xbox turned off theres really no way of telling the difference, unless you know what your looking at.

in all theres
4x leds on the front panel
4x leds inside the joypad ports (1 in each)
4x leds on the front panel eject button (can still keep the error lights)
6x leds under the jewel
5x leds in the joypad



just done a white one for somone with green jotpad ports, looks nice, gonna get some photos up tonight.

had some pictures published in "xbox world magazine" but they printed the wrong ones lol.

cheers all.......................:)

hope this doesnt offend the mods

Morton
12-10-2004, 15:08
I've lost the pic comparing the three drives but this is the drive in my Xbox bought in March.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.morton43/Xbox/Xbox_Crystal_Drive.JPG

The fan is a fair bit noisier than my old black one and I plan to change it once it's out of warranty. And the drive doesn't play CD-R's.

bumfrog
12-10-2004, 15:16
Ah well at least you're able to buy the Crystal Xbox. Microsoft Benelux decided in their infinite wisdom they want to keep the "limited edition" aspect of the Crystal Xbox intact and therefore won't be releasing it in the Netherlands:razz: . Any Brits coming to Holland the next few weeks and bring one along ? :nuts:

if yer desperate I could get one and send you it over.

thecheekymonkey
12-10-2004, 15:17
so i`m guessing you bought it from a shop then spankers etc, very strange, thats a phillips drive and all the ones i had (from the limited edition crystal) read everything.

sure its not a media issue as in use good riteks and well cd-rs not sure, but all mine read them

audio cd`s and dvd-r home movies

weird mate.

Morton
12-10-2004, 16:24
"Spankers"?

Come to think of it, I recall a friend of mine with another Crystal Xbox said that it played certain CD-r's with a gold coloured side, but not the blue or non-coloured discs. I'll ask him tonight to refresh my memory.

zantarous
12-10-2004, 16:27
Xbox's are very funny about the media they read you will need to try a few different brands before you find the right one. Have a look at the forum on xbox.com.

Chocovla
12-10-2004, 19:27
if yer desperate I could get one and send you it over.

Thanks for the offer but it looks like thery' re going to offer a Halo 2 bundle here with the Crystal Xbox. So I only have to flog Halo 2 now ;)

thecheekymonkey
12-10-2004, 19:36
the white one i did for someone lol

need better piccys, still sorting them out, looks nice though, tempted to do another for myself like that.........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/thecheekymonkey/white%20crystal/frontleft.jpg

Wombster
12-10-2004, 19:56
wow that looks nice, i aven't got an xbox at the moment but would like one, do you do anything like sale the modded xboxs straight from you directly or will i have to go out to the shops and buy one beforehand.

thecheekymonkey
12-10-2004, 20:22
no probs, can do premodded (casemodded) mate, no probs. lmk, a little busy at the moment, setting up a new webby, but yeah pre-casemodded can be done :)

Silent Bob
12-10-2004, 20:36
the white one i did for someone lol

need better piccys, still sorting them out, looks nice though, tempted to do another for myself like that.........

Shame the pix don't do justice to the real thing, would love to check out that white version.

You posted anymore pix of the new "white" one elsewhere?

BTW, mailed you earlier m8. :)

ccparkhill
12-10-2004, 21:00
I've bought 2 Crystal Xboxes this week, 1 had a Samsung and a 8GB WD drive, the other had a Philips and a 10GB Seagate drive.

thecheekymonkey
12-10-2004, 21:25
bob ive got your mail mate, i have mailed you back mate, i`ll mail again, havent posted any piccys elsewhere as of yet, will do today tomorrow, just trying to sort a new webby out

ccparkhill

i know about the different drives etc now, initially all the ones i got where phillips / 8 gigers, but more exotic drives coming through now.....


heres another
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/thecheekymonkey/white%20crystal/front.jpg

still need to sort some good piccys out

ickle yoda1
12-10-2004, 21:34
TheCheekyMonkey

Question for you, how much do you charge for an xbox pre-modded? The white one looks pretty sexy ;)

anephric
13-10-2004, 07:51
Yes, again, I'm still interested in the green jobby...

CLH
13-10-2004, 14:53
Got my new crystal one today.

Very very nice indeed.

Has a huge drive as well.

Silent Bob
13-10-2004, 21:13
bob ive got your mail mate, i have mailed you back mate, i`ll mail again, havent posted any piccys elsewhere as of yet, will do today tomorrow, just trying to sort a new webby out

Not received anything. :(

thecheekymonkey
13-10-2004, 22:16
hmmm, i`ll try again mate.

basically my prcing is £50 for a console+one controller lighted, then add delivery and if its a premod add price of console.

i`ll mail again now bob