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AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 10:25
Hi all,

A quick question for you .....

I currently have my TV/DVD/VCR setup so that the DVD is daisychained through the video to the TV's AV2 socket. When the Video/DVD is used then the TV automatically switches to the AV2 channel. No problem so far. The sound from the DVD goes via the optical cable direct to the amp. However, for the video there are no separate phono connections so the sound used to come out via the TV. When the amp wasn't around this also worked perfectly. With the amp connected the TV's sound goes from the TV's AV1 socket to the amp. When we play a video, the picture on the TV switches but the sound remains on the TV channel we were watching before playing the video ??!!?? If I turn up the TV's sound then you hear the video's sound output ??!!??

I can only think this is down to dodgy scart leads. But if that was the case then why is the TV playing the right sound ?? Could it be the TV is having trouble accepting the sound via AV2 and then outputing it via AV1 ??

Any ideas/solutions would be greatfully received.

Regards,

Adam

Evade
12-11-2001, 10:30
Just a stab in the dark, but on my TV in the options go can change the input & outputs, might be worth a double check that you have the output set to AV2??

Bapapapa
12-11-2001, 10:43
EH?

If the SCART is not connected to the amp at all, then you shouldn't have *any* sound coming through the amp. It sounds like it's bleeding through, which is not right anyway, but still..

If you want the VCR sound to come through the amp properly then get a SCART > SCART/PHONO lead. The SCART goes into the Video and the other end goes into the TV, with the phonos into the AMP's (TV) phono sockets. When you want to watch a Vid, turn the TV sound down, switch on the amp, select the TV option and off you go.

Just
12-11-2001, 11:18
Assuming you have a SCART-SCART from the VCR to the TV (AV1) and a SCART to Phonos from AV2 to the Amp then the reason you are getting no sound is likely a feature of the TV to prevent a feedback loop on the audio of AV1 and AV2. Try flipping them around so that you are inputting on the other SCART socket and outputting on the remaining that may well do it, as most TVs only have a feedback prevention circuit operating one way, otherwise the TV becomes a bit useless.

AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 11:22
Originally posted by Bapapapa
EH?

If the SCART is not connected to the amp at all, then you shouldn't have *any* sound coming through the amp. It sounds like it's bleeding through, which is not right anyway, but still..

If you want the VCR sound to come through the amp properly then get a SCART > SCART/PHONO lead. The SCART goes into the Video and the other end goes into the TV, with the phonos into the AMP's (TV) phono sockets. When you want to watch a Vid, turn the TV sound down, switch on the amp, select the TV option and off you go.

The TV is connected to the amp via a scart to phono lead (going from TV AV1 to amp). The video is connected to the TV via a scart to scart lead (going from video to TV AV2). The amp is set to the 'TV input'.

When watching normal TV the sound comes through the amp correctly. When watching a video the amp continues to play the 'terrestial TV' sound but the TV is showing the video's picture.

I wasn't sure if a scart to scart & phono lead existed ? How much do they normally cost ? I was just going to go to Argos and buy one of those switching boxes which also have phono sockets on them. That ought to fix my problem right ??

AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 11:30
Originally posted by Just
Assuming you have a SCART-SCART from the VCR to the TV (AV1) and a SCART to Phonos from AV2 to the Amp then the reason you are getting no sound is likely a feature of the TV to prevent a feedback loop on the audio of AV1 and AV2. Try flipping them around so that you are inputting on the other SCART socket and outputting on the remaining that may well do it, as most TVs only have a feedback prevention circuit operating one way, otherwise the TV becomes a bit useless.

Unfortunately the AV1 socket is the only bi-directional scart on the TV so the sound has to go from AV1 to the amp =(

Bapapapa
12-11-2001, 11:32
:nuts:

Right you have got one knobbed up connection there. :p

Connect the DVD player straight to AV1 and enable RGB.

Connect the Video to AV2 with a SCART > SCART/PHONO lead as already described, no need to spend more than £20.

I just can't see why you've connected the amp to the TV via AV1 - it seems such a waste of a scart socket.

AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 11:34
Originally posted by Bapapapa
:nuts:
I just can't see why you've connected the amp to the TV via AV1 - it seems such a waste of a scart socket.

Because the AV1 socket is the ONLY way to send the TV's sound to an external source. The TV has no phono sockets. It does have a headphone socket (I think) but that would be a very last resort !!!!

Alanok
12-11-2001, 11:49
Having muchas fun Adam?

AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 11:51
Originally posted by Alanok
Having muchas fun Adam?

Hi Alan :p

Check your email in a couple of minutes. I think that either the switching box or scart - scart&phono lead is going to be the way to go. Probably the former as that is easier to get hold of !!

Bapapapa
12-11-2001, 11:58
Adam, a SCART>SCART/Phono lead is pretty common, even Currys sell em. :p

If you connect it the way I said you'll be able to get TV sound thru the amp as well, although you'll have to watch the TV thru video channel.

Just
12-11-2001, 12:20
Hold on, lets get back to basics (cos I is thick).

The TV has an input only and an output/input SCART socket - ok got that.

So, you connect the DVD player SCART socket to a VCR SCART socket (that accepts input).

Then connect another VCR SCART socket (that outputs) to the TV (AV2 in this case).

Then, AV1 on the TV using the SCART to Phonos cable you have to the Amp.

If that doesn't work then go backwards to see what does work - ie does the dvd come through the TV (audio and video) if not, then does it come through the VCR etc, etc.

It must either be a setting on the TV (to not output on AV1) that has accidentally been switched on, or a dodgy lead along the line.

I set my Parents up with this exact layout, so that everything is automatic (ie VCR and DVD switch the Telly auto and the HIFI is just needed to be switched on, if left on AUX). I am fairly sure you don't need to do anything different, just check the cabling.

AdamBrunt
12-11-2001, 13:04
Originally posted by Just
Hold on, lets get back to basics (cos I is thick).

The TV has an input only and an output/input SCART socket - ok got that.

So, you connect the DVD player SCART socket to a VCR SCART socket (that accepts input).

Then connect another VCR SCART socket (that outputs) to the TV (AV2 in this case).

Then, AV1 on the TV using the SCART to Phonos cable you have to the Amp.

If that doesn't work then go backwards to see what does work - ie does the dvd come through the TV (audio and video) if not, then does it come through the VCR etc, etc.

It must either be a setting on the TV (to not output on AV1) that has accidentally been switched on, or a dodgy lead along the line.

I set my Parents up with this exact layout, so that everything is automatic (ie VCR and DVD switch the Telly auto and the HIFI is just needed to be switched on, if left on AUX). I am fairly sure you don't need to do anything different, just check the cabling.

I think the problem is what you mentioned earlier about 'feedback loop prevention'. Unfortunately the tv only outputs on one of the AV sockets not both of them.

Hopefully the problem will be fixed this evening as I have just purchased a scart - scart&phono lead so I will be able to connect the video directly to the amp :)