Hong Kong Dvd

[sticker]

Hey! - Looking for some recommended DVD purchases from the Hong Kong end of things > ?

Thx >

DA STICKER - Dublin:clap: :clap: :clap:

[JamesK]

you got Battle Royale?? Or Shaolin Soccer?

If not then I recommend you do.

[Shingster]

You ought to give us a list of films you've seen that you like, so we could better judge the type of films you'd like. Anyway here's a few that I've seen that are worth a look:

Shaolin Soccer (Bit of a forum favourite at the mo)
Peking Opera Blues
Swordsman 1&2
Prison on Fire
Tiger on Beat
A Hero never Dies
The Longest Nite
Big Bullet
Heroic Trio
Bride With White Hair
Any John Woo Film
City On Fire
Full Alert
Bio-Zombie
Ashes of Time
Fist Of Legend (Taiwan)

I'm sure the likes of Mr Vampire & Cirrus888 will be able to give you a bigger list, I've only recently got into this HK DVD lark meself.

[Cirrus888]

Originally posted by Shingster

I'm sure the likes of Mr Vampire & Cirrus888 will be able to give you a bigger list, I've only recently got into this HK DVD lark meself.

Thats a good list to start off with ...

[Paul2]

Here's a copy of a useful list that gets posted here every now and again. Thanks to the original poster:

This topic was covered before the forums were hacked, and I made a copy of (IMHO) the most complete listing of films to check out later. I believe the original author of this was a certain Mr Brooke, so appologies that I've just blatantly copied his words of wisdom...
Since I've referred to it in another thread, and given the obvious interest in Hong Kong films at the moment (I don't think I've ever had so many personal responses as I did from my reviews of Swordsman II and The Story of Ricky!), I thought I'd reproduce the poll of Hong Kong films from the book 'Hong Kong Babylon'.

Unlike the Empire poll, this had just twelve contributors - Peggy Chiao, Howard Hampton, Dave Kehr, Andy Klein, Lau Kar, Barry Long, Rick Meyers, Jimmy Ngai, John Powers, Tony Rayns, Barbara Scharres and Chuck Stephens - but they're all genuine experts in Hong Kong cinema and have seen and written about far more titles than the average fan. Even better, the poll didn't restrict the number of titles they could nominate, so they didn't have to omit any outstanding films because of some arbitrary rule.

As a result, it's a solid, reliable list, and a superb guide to Hong Kong cinema - on the basis of the titles that I've seen myself, I'd safely recommend it as a great starting point for anyone interested in exploring the subject further. In fact, I wish I'd had something similar fifteen years ago when I first became seriously interested in Hong Kong films!

Each film was marked out of three (Most Highly Recommended, Highly Recommended and Recommended) - giving a total potential score of 36. The results were as follows:

31 - Bullet in the Head (John Woo, 1990) - Mega Star
30 - Centre Stage (aka Actress) (Stanley Kwan, 1991) - Mega Star
29 - Chungking Express (Wong Kar-Wai, 1994) - Ocean Shores
28 - Peking Opera Blues (Tsui Hark, 1986) - Mega Star
27 - A Better Tomorrow (John Woo, 1986) - Anchor Bay
27 - Days of Being Wild (Wong Kar-Wai, 1991) - Mei Ah
27 - The Killer (John Woo, 1989) - Winstar/Mega Star
27 - Rouge (Stanley Kwan, 1987) - Mega Star
24 - Hard Boiled (John Woo, 1992) - Winstar
22 - A Chinese Ghost Story (Ching Siu-Tung, 1987) - Mega Star
21 - Swordsman II (Ching Siu-Tung, 1991) - Mei Ah
20 - Ashes of Time (Wong Kar-Wai, 1994) - Mei Ah
20 - Project A (Jackie Chan, 1983) - Mega Star
19 - Drunken Master II (Lau Kar-leung, 1993) - 3 versions, none with subtitles
19 - Police Story (Jackie Chan, 1985) - Mega Star
18 - The Spooky Bunch (Ann Hui, 1982) - n/a
17 - Boat People (Ann Hui, 1982) - China Star (no subtitles)
17 - Once Upon a Time in China (Tsui Hark, 1991) - Hong Kong Legends (UK)
16 - A Better Tomorrow Part II (John Woo, 1987) - Anchor Bay
16 - Fong Sai Yuk (Cory Yuen, 1993) - Universe
16 - Painted Faces (Alex Law, 1988) - n/a
16 - People's Hero (Derek Yee, 1987) - n/a
16 - Project A Part II (Jackie Chan, 1987) - Mega Star
16 - Zu: Warriors From The Magic Mountain (Tsui Hark, 1983) - Universe
15 - Ah Ying (Allen Fong, 1982) - n/a
15 - Autumn Moon (Clara Law, 1992) - n/a
15 - Drunken Master (Yuen Woo-Ping, 1978) - Hong Kong Legends
15 - Fallen Angels (Wong Kar-Wai, 1995) - Kino (USA)
15 - The Heroic Trio (Johnny To, 1992) - Universe
15 - Once a Thief (John Woo, 1991) - Mega Star
15 - Once Upon a Time in China II (Tsui Hark, 1991) - Mega Star
15 - Police Story II (Jackie Chan, 1988) - Mega Star
14 - A Better Tomorrow Part III (Tsui Hark, 1989) - Mega Star
14 - Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark, 1984) - n/a
13 - As Tears Go By (Wong Kar-Wai, 1988) - Pioneer (Japan - no subtitles)
13 - The Bride With White Hair (Ronny Yu, 1993) - Universe
13 - The Butterfly Murders (Tsui Hark, 1979) - n/a
13 - Dangerous Encounter of the First Kind (Tsui Hark, 1980) - n/a
13 - The Day the Sun Turned Cold (Yim Ho, 1994) - n/a
13 - Dragons Forever (Samo Hung, 1988) - Mega Star/Universe
13 - Full Contact (Ringo Lam, 1992) - Mei Ah
13 - Song of the Exile (Ann Hui, 1989) - n/a
12 - The Blade (Tsui Hark, 1995) - MIA (UK)
12 - Dragon Inn (aka New Dragon Gate Inn) (Raymond Lee, 1992) - Hong Kong Legends (UK)
11 - 92 Legendary La Rose Noire (Jeff Lau, 1992)
11 - Eastern Condors (Samo Hung, 1986) - Universe
11 - The East is Red (Ching Siu-Tung, Raymond Lee, 1993) - Mei Ah
11 - Miracles (Jackie Chan, 1989) - Mega Star
11 - Naked Killer (Clarence Fok, 1992) - Mega Star
11 - Red Rose, White Rose (Stanley Kwan, 1994) - n/a
11 - Romance of Book and Sword (Ann Hui, 1987) - n/a
11 - Saviour of the Soul (Cory Yuen, David Lai, 1991) - Universe
11 - Summer Snow (Ann Hui, 1995) - China Star
11 - Supercop (Stanley Tong, 1992) - Dimension Films (US version)/
11 - Swordsman (Tsui Hark, Raymond Lee, Ching Siu-Tung, 1990) - Mega Star
10 - Chicken and Duck Talk (Clifton Ko, 1988) - n/a
10 - City on Fire (Ringo Lam, 1987) - Mega Star/Universe
10 - Dream Lovers (Tony Au, 1986) - Mega Star
10 - The Private Eyes (Michael Hui, 1976) - Universe
10 - Red Dust (Yim Ho, 1990) - n/a
9 - A Chinese Ghost Story II (Ching Siu-Tung, 1990) - Mega Star
9 - A Chinese Odyssey II: Cinderella (Jeff Lau, 1995) - Mei Ah
9 - The Dead and the Deadly (Wu Ma, 1982) - n/a
9 - The Eagle-Shooting Heroes (Jeff Lau, 1993) - Mei Ah
9 - Full Moon in New York (Stanley Kwan, 1990) - Mei Ah
9 - God of Gamblers (Wong Jing, 1989) - Mei Ah
9 - Iron Monkey (Yuen Woo-Ping, 1993) - Mega Star
9 - Long Arm of the Law (Johnny Mak, 1984) - Mega Star
9 - Prison on Fire (Ringo Lam, 1987) - Mega Star/Universe
9 - The Secret (Ann Hui, 1979) - n/a
9 - The Story of Woo Viet (Ann Hui, 1981) - Pony Canyon (no subtitles)
9 - The Sword (Patrick Tam, 1980) - WA (no subtitles)

[Cirrus888]

I was looking for this list once but gave up when I couldn't find it. I've now copied it onto my PC and I too will bring it out if anyone asks about HK movies again ... probably in 2 days time!

Maybe I will update the list to include a few favourites of mine too! ;)

[Paul2]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
...and I too will bring it out if anyone asks about HK movies again ... probably in 2 days time!

:D :D

Maybe I will update the list to include a few favourites of mine too! ;)

As long as you aren't tempted to delete the Tsui Hark entries!!

[Jimmyboy]

Am I right in thinking that Bullet in the Head is the best HK movie of all time accourding to that list ?. :confused:

[Cirrus888]

Paul2 - I promise not to delete all the Tsui hark movies! ;) (although I really hate the blade :p)

jimmyboy - bullet in the head is good but its nothing like the killer or hard boiled be warned!

[Jimmyboy]

Originally posted by Cirrus888

jimmyboy - bullet in the head is good but its nothing like the killer or hard boiled be warned!
Yeah I know.
I've seen Bullet it the Head, I was just having a hard time understanding how it slaughtered some of the other excellent films on the list.

Great sig btw Cirrus !.
How come you've only got a post count of 4 ???.

[Shingster]

I think you could count on In The Mood For Love making an appearance in the top five if they did that list again.

[Cirrus888]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy

How come you've only got a post count of 4 ???.

You have to ask admin that because when I tried updating my profile all hell broke loose leading to the eventual deletion of my old account (apparently dodgy email, despite me using the same email for the last year). :(

[tpr007]

Why not go to Dragons Den (link below) and look through the A-Z of reviews. Each list shows the score films got - i'd look for those with at least 4 out of 5.

What are your own top 5 at the moment?

[Cirrus888]

The list only goes up to 1995, and surprisingly leaves out Fist of legend!

[Jimmyboy]

Does anyone know when the list was compiled ?.
I can't see a film made after 1995 so is the list some 5 years out of date ? (not that the list would change much if it was done today).

Does anyone find it odd that there isnt a single Bruce Lee film on the list ?.

[Rohail]

Originally posted by Paul2
Here's a copy of a useful list that gets posted here every now and again. Thanks to the original poster:

This topic was covered before the forums were hacked, and I made a copy of (IMHO) the most complete listing of films to check out later. I believe the original author of this was a certain Mr Brooke, so appologies that I've just blatantly copied his words of wisdom...
Since I've referred to it in another thread, and given the obvious interest in Hong Kong films at the moment (I don't think I've ever had so many personal responses as I did from my reviews of Swordsman II and The Story of Ricky!), I thought I'd reproduce the poll of Hong Kong films from the book 'Hong Kong Babylon'.

Unlike the Empire poll, this had just twelve contributors - Peggy Chiao, Howard Hampton, Dave Kehr, Andy Klein, Lau Kar, Barry Long, Rick Meyers, Jimmy Ngai, John Powers, Tony Rayns, Barbara Scharres and Chuck Stephens - but they're all genuine experts in Hong Kong cinema and have seen and written about far more titles than the average fan. Even better, the poll didn't restrict the number of titles they could nominate, so they didn't have to omit any outstanding films because of some arbitrary rule.

As a result, it's a solid, reliable list, and a superb guide to Hong Kong cinema - on the basis of the titles that I've seen myself, I'd safely recommend it as a great starting point for anyone interested in exploring the subject further. In fact, I wish I'd had something similar fifteen years ago when I first became seriously interested in Hong Kong films!

Each film was marked out of three (Most Highly Recommended, Highly Recommended and Recommended) - giving a total potential score of 36. The results were as follows:

31 - Bullet in the Head (John Woo, 1990) - Mega Star
30 - Centre Stage (aka Actress) (Stanley Kwan, 1991) - Mega Star
29 - Chungking Express (Wong Kar-Wai, 1994) - Ocean Shores
28 - Peking Opera Blues (Tsui Hark, 1986) - Mega Star
27 - A Better Tomorrow (John Woo, 1986) - Anchor Bay
27 - Days of Being Wild (Wong Kar-Wai, 1991) - Mei Ah
27 - The Killer (John Woo, 1989) - Winstar/Mega Star
27 - Rouge (Stanley Kwan, 1987) - Mega Star
24 - Hard Boiled (John Woo, 1992) - Winstar
22 - A Chinese Ghost Story (Ching Siu-Tung, 1987) - Mega Star
21 - Swordsman II (Ching Siu-Tung, 1991) - Mei Ah
20 - Ashes of Time (Wong Kar-Wai, 1994) - Mei Ah
20 - Project A (Jackie Chan, 1983) - Mega Star
19 - Drunken Master II (Lau Kar-leung, 1993) - 3 versions, none with subtitles
19 - Police Story (Jackie Chan, 1985) - Mega Star
18 - The Spooky Bunch (Ann Hui, 1982) - n/a
17 - Boat People (Ann Hui, 1982) - China Star (no subtitles)
17 - Once Upon a Time in China (Tsui Hark, 1991) - Hong Kong Legends (UK)
16 - A Better Tomorrow Part II (John Woo, 1987) - Anchor Bay
16 - Fong Sai Yuk (Cory Yuen, 1993) - Universe
16 - Painted Faces (Alex Law, 1988) - n/a
16 - People's Hero (Derek Yee, 1987) - n/a
16 - Project A Part II (Jackie Chan, 1987) - Mega Star
16 - Zu: Warriors From The Magic Mountain (Tsui Hark, 1983) - Universe
15 - Ah Ying (Allen Fong, 1982) - n/a
15 - Autumn Moon (Clara Law, 1992) - n/a
15 - Drunken Master (Yuen Woo-Ping, 1978) - Hong Kong Legends
15 - Fallen Angels (Wong Kar-Wai, 1995) - Kino (USA)
15 - The Heroic Trio (Johnny To, 1992) - Universe
15 - Once a Thief (John Woo, 1991) - Mega Star
15 - Once Upon a Time in China II (Tsui Hark, 1991) - Mega Star
15 - Police Story II (Jackie Chan, 1988) - Mega Star
14 - A Better Tomorrow Part III (Tsui Hark, 1989) - Mega Star
14 - Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark, 1984) - n/a
13 - As Tears Go By (Wong Kar-Wai, 1988) - Pioneer (Japan - no subtitles)
13 - The Bride With White Hair (Ronny Yu, 1993) - Universe
13 - The Butterfly Murders (Tsui Hark, 1979) - n/a
13 - Dangerous Encounter of the First Kind (Tsui Hark, 1980) - n/a
13 - The Day the Sun Turned Cold (Yim Ho, 1994) - n/a
13 - Dragons Forever (Samo Hung, 1988) - Mega Star/Universe
13 - Full Contact (Ringo Lam, 1992) - Mei Ah
13 - Song of the Exile (Ann Hui, 1989) - n/a
12 - The Blade (Tsui Hark, 1995) - MIA (UK)
12 - Dragon Inn (aka New Dragon Gate Inn) (Raymond Lee, 1992) - Hong Kong Legends (UK)
11 - 92 Legendary La Rose Noire (Jeff Lau, 1992)
11 - Eastern Condors (Samo Hung, 1986) - Universe
11 - The East is Red (Ching Siu-Tung, Raymond Lee, 1993) - Mei Ah
11 - Miracles (Jackie Chan, 1989) - Mega Star
11 - Naked Killer (Clarence Fok, 1992) - Mega Star
11 - Red Rose, White Rose (Stanley Kwan, 1994) - n/a
11 - Romance of Book and Sword (Ann Hui, 1987) - n/a
11 - Saviour of the Soul (Cory Yuen, David Lai, 1991) - Universe
11 - Summer Snow (Ann Hui, 1995) - China Star
11 - Supercop (Stanley Tong, 1992) - Dimension Films (US version)/
11 - Swordsman (Tsui Hark, Raymond Lee, Ching Siu-Tung, 1990) - Mega Star
10 - Chicken and Duck Talk (Clifton Ko, 1988) - n/a
10 - City on Fire (Ringo Lam, 1987) - Mega Star/Universe
10 - Dream Lovers (Tony Au, 1986) - Mega Star
10 - The Private Eyes (Michael Hui, 1976) - Universe
10 - Red Dust (Yim Ho, 1990) - n/a
9 - A Chinese Ghost Story II (Ching Siu-Tung, 1990) - Mega Star
9 - A Chinese Odyssey II: Cinderella (Jeff Lau, 1995) - Mei Ah
9 - The Dead and the Deadly (Wu Ma, 1982) - n/a
9 - The Eagle-Shooting Heroes (Jeff Lau, 1993) - Mei Ah
9 - Full Moon in New York (Stanley Kwan, 1990) - Mei Ah
9 - God of Gamblers (Wong Jing, 1989) - Mei Ah
9 - Iron Monkey (Yuen Woo-Ping, 1993) - Mega Star
9 - Long Arm of the Law (Johnny Mak, 1984) - Mega Star
9 - Prison on Fire (Ringo Lam, 1987) - Mega Star/Universe
9 - The Secret (Ann Hui, 1979) - n/a
9 - The Story of Woo Viet (Ann Hui, 1981) - Pony Canyon (no subtitles)
9 - The Sword (Patrick Tam, 1980) - WA (no subtitles)

Anybody agree with me that this list should be made a sticky in the Software forum?

[Cirrus888]

Yeah I was thinking about suggesting a sticky as there is no other list as an alternative and HK movies still seem to be popular.

[Paul2]

Sounds like a good idea, given how often people ask 'Recommend some good HK movies'.

Indeed, we could go a step further. There are quite a few forum members with extensive , up-to-date knowledge of HK movies, so we could nominate our own top tens, add up the scores (similar to the above list) and create the forum's own definitive list!

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Rohail


Anybody agree with me that this list should be made a sticky in the Software forum?

I think the list is a bit naff to be honest. I don't agree with a lot of it, but it may be useful, so putting it somewhere permanent may help.

[Jimmyboy]

What I cant understand about the list is that there were 12 voters who rated each film out of 3. Yet there are films on the list which recieved 9 points in total.
Surely the minimum total votes for a film must be 12, unless you can vote 0, but I have a hard time believing that any HK fan would vote so low for films like Iron Monkey.

...and I repeat, not a single Bruce Lee title ? !. :confused:

[Cirrus888]

Well I've seen 38 of the 75 movies listed and I would say most of the ones I've seen are worth watching. None are rubbish with the exception of a few.

Maybe Bruce lee doesn't need to have any attention drawn to his movies seeing that they are relatively popular to all.

What is good about the list it that it includes movies that don't rely on Kung Fu and guns to grab the viewer.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
What I cant understand about the list is that there were 12 voters who rated each film out of 3. Yet there are films on the list which recieved 9 points in total.
Surely the minimum total votes for a film must be 12, unless you can vote 0, but I have a hard time believing that any HK fan would vote so low for films like Iron Monkey.

...and I repeat, not a single Bruce Lee title ? !. :confused:

as i said: It's a crap list

Rick Meyers is usually worth listening to though.

No Bey Logan, Mike Leeder or me in there! That's the trouble!

I reckon we should put together a top ten and total up the votes to create a modern list, with more varied opinions...

who's gonna total it up though??

[sticker]

[SIZE=3]
Hey! -
I'm chuckin' a large eastern order soon, But I'm unsure of what to dive for > I LOVED Full time Killer, anyone recommend more of the same > ? ?
Thx

DA STICKER
Dublin:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Arch Stanton]

The list is fatally flawed.


Where's the Story of Ricky?

:)

[burn]

Where is Farewell My Concubine? It is a masterpiece, any one know if the fabled 5 hour cut of the film is more than just a rumour?

[samhain]

It would be a certainly be a good idea to have some suggestions as a sticky - these questions crop up all the time.

I don't agree that this list is crap at all. There are some excellent films in there (great to see Red Dust finally mentioned - easily one of my favourites.)
Just because they don't fit in with some people's tastes, doesn't make them crap.

However, it is several years old, and needs updating both in terms of new films, and also the release info (i.e. As Tears Go By is available on HK DVD now etc).
It could also mention VCD and VHS availability. Some aren't available on DVD, but are on other formats, and given the choice between a poor quality VCD, and not seeing it at all, I'll take the VCD!

It might be an idea to vote for a new list, and just use this one for reference.
Maybe there should be different lists for broad genres - i.e. Action, Comedy, Drama, Horror...
I know that some films would be difficult to define, but there's no reason why the same film couldn't appear in more than one category.

Different people have different tastes, and if there's only one list with films like Centre Stage at the top, some people are going to be very disappointed!

I take tpr007 point, though – how do we sort out the voting and collating?

[tpr007]

If everyone writes their top ten Hong Kong Martial Arts Films and their top ten non-action ones, then we could make 2 lists based on the number of votes each film gets.

Anyone got a spare day to kill?

[Shingster]

I could do all the counting, seeing as I've far too much extra time on my hands.
We just need to come up with a suitable method for voting I guess. I think it moght be best to split the categories up a bit more, say like: Martial Arts, Gunplay/Thriller, Comedy, Horror, Drama. Also should we do the top 10 route, or would it be better to do a points system?
I also think it might be worth choosing a best film for little categories like Best Fight Scene, Best Shoot-out, etc. This would satisfy the HK fans who are just looking for action/fighting scenes I guess.
Most of the HK fans seem to come out at night on these forums, so I guess we could sort it out tonight?

[tpr007]

Should we e-mail a seperate list for each genre (eg Gunplay, Drama etc) and make the subject of the e-mail such.

Therefore, you could easily split them up, and people could just do lists for those they know about or enjoy?

Better than posting in a thread?

[Shingster]

It'll take a bit more time, but it seems like the best way to approach this, it'll save using up too much of the forums bandwith. ;)
We don't have to e-mail seperate lists out to people, we could just put each list up in a new thread & let whoever's interested to copy them, vote on the films they've watched, then just e-mail me the results. We'll set a closing date, then I'll wade through the lists & produce a final set.
I think it may be better to let people rate the films (out of 10?), instead of doing a top ten, that way I could tally an average score for each film on the list, I'll even include the number of votes, ALA the IMDB.

[john316]

Iron Monkey with only 9 points is just bizarre

And surely Hard Boiled deserves more than 24?

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Shingster
It'll take a bit more time, but it seems like the best way to approach this, it'll save using up too much of the forums bandwith. ;)
We don't have to e-mail seperate lists out to people, we could just put each list up in a new thread & let whoever's interested to copy them, vote on the films they've watched, then just e-mail me the results. We'll set a closing date, then I'll wade through the lists & produce a final set.
I think it may be better to let people rate the films (out of 10?), instead of doing a top ten, that way I could tally an average score for each film on the list, I'll even include the number of votes, ALA the IMDB.

But how do we pick a list for people to choose from?
It'll cause problems!!! Someone will say "Why have x, but not y?"

[Shingster]

I guess we could just copy all the films listed at DDDHouse & The Asian DVD Guide?. Do you think we should limit the films to just those that have had DVD releases?
The advantage of using the IMDB method is that we could always add films to the list later, by conducting new polls. The top 10 ten method is harder to update.

[tpr007]

Whatever you find easiest! It's your legwork at the end of the day:D

[Shingster]

I'm not expecting a huge response to this TBH, but at least the forums'll have their own little HK film guide.

[kanedaa]

i'll certainly contibute by doing a list/voting on a list....i'll leave the setting up to you though cos my brain just isn't on form at the moment :)

dave.

[Cirrus888]

To be honest judging from what I have read about HK movies from most DVD forum members, you will probably only add another 5 -10 films to the above list anyway.

What we can have instead of a chart of everyones favourite films is what is worth watching now. What are the new releases after 1995 that are worth viewing.

A rating system will just make people criticise in the same way you guys are doing about the above list which I think is fine introduction to HK movies.

[Jimmyboy]

For this idea to work though, each film must be given the same amount of voters.
IE - We cant simply let everyone vote for their favourite HK film because we would end up with a biased result if useing a point system.
It will work in favour of the popular titles but against the little known titles.

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
What we can have instead of a chart of everyones favourite films is what is worth watching now. What are the new releases after 1995 that are worth viewing.

A rating system will just make people criticise in the same way you guys are doing about the above list which I think is fine introduction to HK movies.

I guess we could just update the list, but it would be nice to have a forums-own list to accompany that one.

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
It will work in favour of the popular titles but against the little known titles.

Including the number of votes next to the average score should help when faced with that problem, as a film with 5 votes, but an average of 9 should still be worth watching. I would sort out how I would rank the films once i knew how many people voted. An alrternative method would to not take the mean of the votes, but the mode. We still wouldn't be able to completely eliminate the advantage of the famous titles, but it's at least something.

[niz]

HONG KONG LEGENDS have just announced they have the rights to the following films:

7. Prison on Fire
8. Prison on Fire 2
9. A Chinese Ghost Story
10. A Chinese Ghost Story 2
11. A Chinese Ghost Story 3
12. Swordsman
13. City Wars
14. Peking Opera Blues
15. Triads: The Inside Story
16. The Big Heat
17. Tiger on the Beat

there are 6 others, to be announced at www.bulletsnbabesdvds.com in the next few hours.

[samhain]

Originally posted by niz
HONG KONG LEGENDS have just announced they have the rights to the following films:

7. Prison on Fire
8. Prison on Fire 2
9. A Chinese Ghost Story
10. A Chinese Ghost Story 2
11. A Chinese Ghost Story 3
12. Swordsman
13. City Wars
14. Peking Opera Blues
15. Triads: The Inside Story
16. The Big Heat
17. Tiger on the Beat

there are 6 others, to be announced at www.bulletsnbabesdvds.com in the next few hours.

I've just wet myself :D

[Shingster]

Originally posted by kanedaa
i'll certainly contibute by doing a list/voting on a list....i'll leave the setting up to you though cos my brain just isn't on form at the moment :)


So,you want a piece of the action eh!! :D
I guess we could do this thing proper & have the same lists for Japanese & Korean films. You could deal with that poll & I'll deal with the HK one, hopefully we'll reduce the number of What Anime is worth getting??? threads alongside the HK ones.

[Shingster]

Originally posted by samhain


I've just wet myself :D

I wet myself 11 times!!! :D
I then went over to the titles on that list that I bought in the last month & wept. :( :nuts:

[kanedaa]

Originally posted by Shingster
So,you want a piece of the action eh!!
I guess we could do this thing proper & have the same lists for Japanese & Korean films. You could deal with that poll & I'll deal with the HK one, hopefully we'll reduce the number of What Anime is worth getting??? threads alongside the HK ones.

oh, so thats how it is :D roping me into some work as well!! ;)

actually as soon as this Sticky HK list talk started I thought about an anime list cos I myself have gotten a little bored of responding to the 'Whats good' requests we get....trouble with anime is the lack of it actually available on DVD but its still a good idea and certainly something i'd be interested in doing (with the help of other forum anime fans) - but lets see how this idea turns out for now :)

dave.

[Ghost Dog]

Well there is certainly a lack of anime in the UK, but there are loads of releases in the US and Japan. Ok most of the Japanese ones are really expensive and have no english options but there are some theat are worth getting (Ghibli). Anyway there are hundreds of R1 anime releases and the list is growing fast, also R4 is starting to get a few titles as well, although most are just ones that are out in R1 but cheaper and in PAL. If anyone wants to know some good anime DVDs just send them to Anime on DVD website (http://www.animeondvd.com)

Almost all the R1 releases are reviewed here as well as many R2 and R4 releases. There is also primers for the most popular series/films for newcomers too.

[Paul2]

I don't think it's a good idead for voting to involve individual ratings-rating info will get lost as noise when results are collated. Why not just decide on 5 or so categories and ask voters to name their favourite 4 or 5 films, in no particualr order, in each category, then add up the number of 'hits' that each film gets. There's no way around certain biases (like DVD availability) unless voting is restricted very tightly to only those with very extensive knowledge. Given that the purpose of the list is partly to guide other memebers, this shouldn't be a problem.

[Jimmyboy]

I think the best way to do this is to get together 5 - 10 HK film experts (each with there own personal fav genre) who run various websites and have seen enough films to make the judgement as to how good a film is.

This is the only way of getting a decent poll, otherwise it will end up looking like channel 4's top 100 all-time movie poll, where Star Wars nearly always come's first.

If we simply let anyone and everyone vote then the top 10 of the chart is gonna be stuffed with HKL titles (which doesnt really help anyone coz one of the main reasons for the list is to guide people on their R3 choices).

...and whats the bets CTHD comes first with Iron Monkey a not so close 2nd ?.

[kanedaa]

Originally posted by Ghostdog
Well there is certainly a lack of anime in the UK, but there are loads of releases in the US and Japan.

I guess this was in response to my last post, and while we're straying offtopic let me just say i worded my post wrong. Of course these is a tonne of R1/R2 Japanese discs available, what I meant to say was there is a lack of 'well-priced' anime DVDs cos lets face it, HK discs are dirt ****** cheap, whereas most anime is quite the opposite (even from the US its bloody expensive).

dave.

[Cirrus888]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy

If we simply let anyone and everyone vote then the top 10 of the chart is gonna be stuffed with HKL titles (which doesnt really help anyone coz one of the main reasons for the list is to guide people on their R3 choices).

...and whats the bets CTHD comes first with Iron Monkey a not so close 2nd ?.

Yeah this is what I think will happen the present list is fine as it is, what we want is to update it and draw people to unmentioned titles after 1995.

Or some hidden gems that have escaped the above list ...

What we can try is have everyone name a favourite movie or two that is NOT on the list above. We can start off by doing that at least we have some new titles to think about.

P.S. Shaolin soccer will probably be at the top of this new list though ;)

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Paul2
I don't think it's a good idead for voting to involve individual ratings-rating info will get lost as noise when results are collated. Why not just decide on 5 or so categories and ask voters to name their favourite 4 or 5 films, in no particualr order, in each category, then add up the number of 'hits' that each film gets. There's no way around certain biases (like DVD availability) unless voting is restricted very tightly to only those with very extensive knowledge. Given that the purpose of the list is partly to guide other memebers, this shouldn't be a problem.

The problem I have with the "list your favourites method" is that the lesser known titles get bugger all votes. I personally think calculating the mode from people's rating is the fairest system, for instance:

Take 2 John Woo films: The Killer (Very famous in the west)
Bullet In The Head (Not that famous, as it bombed in HK, so never got a good distribution deal in the west. Those that have seen it tend to rate it as Woo's best film)

Now Imagine that 1000 people rated The Killer & 600 gave it a rating of 9/10, it's mode would be 9/10
If just 100 people rated BITH, 70 of which gave it 9/10, it too would get a result of 9/10.
Now if we did the "list the favourite method", The Killer would leave BITH high & dry, as much, much more people have seen it, hence it would appear more than twice as frequently.

[Mr Vampire]

Shingster's method sound the most decent decision. Although it's gonna be more time consuming, it's a fairer method.

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
Yeah this is what I think will happen the present list is fine as it is, what we want is to update it and draw people to unmentioned titles after 1995.
Or some hidden gems that have escaped the above list ...


I think the best way to update that list is to use the exact same system they used, i.e we take the 12 most knowledgable HK-wise on these forums, give them a new list of titles that don't feature in that old one, & let them score each film out of 3. This shouldn't take too much effort, as only the results of 12 people will be collected.

What do you think of this Cirrus?????
Who's the most knowledgable on these forums??? (Cirrus, Mr Vampire,Tpr007 & Kanedaa immediately spring to mind)

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Mr Vampire
Shingster's method sound the most decent decision. Although it's gonna be more time consuming, it's a fairer method.

It'll be time consuming, but I don't mind. I'd be surprised if we got more than a couple hundred responses though.

[Cirrus888]

Shingster - The problem with reviewing films is that I need to watch the same ones as everyone else watches. (I will be heading back to HK soon and I can rent most HK films on DVD for £1 so I wouldn't mind contributing).

However there is no point in me awarding a film 3 points if no one else has seen it. All I can do is say I highly recommend it and there are already websites that do this.

If all 12 (thats a lot!) of us have seen the film then this system will work fine. Also if all 12 of us HK film fans have seen it then who else is there left to recommend HK films too :p

[tpr007]

It's not an exact science, so I'm sure whichever method we use will produce a valid list, especially for newbies.

It will be difficult to represent each worthy film, as the most popular titles (Hard Boiled, Iron Monkey etc..) would undoubtedly top the list, leaving harder to find equally worthwhile films in the shadows or without a mention (Who else would put Magic Cop on that list?)

It's certainly a popular idea, as ive been getting response e-mails all the time!

As for the chosen method - well, Shingster should get final say.

[Shingster]

Personally, I think it's a choice of 3 ways:

New list from scratch, then the rating + calculate mode will be the system that gives the lesser seen titles the best deal. This will take a lot more time, but I think it would be interesting to see the results. The cons will be in choosing the right list of titles & obviously how long it would take. Another advantage is that it's easy to update, every year(or less?) people could rate the HK films that have been released since the last film was made & add them to the list.

If we add to the original list & use the same rating system then the list will be limited to what films the 12 judges have seen, but I think there's at least 12 people on these forums who've seen a fair few titles! ;) This method will be quick, but it'll be difficult to come up with a list. I guess this would be the hard to update as it relies on a specific number of people to have seen specific titles.

The Vote for your favourites method will get the most votes, so it too will take a while, but at least we don't have to worry about coming up with a decent list. The problem with this method is that you can expect the Woo,Chan,Lee & HKL titles to swamp out any other titles. You can't really update this, so you'd have to create a new list for newer titles.

If you're getting e-mails from people who visit your site Tpr007, then I suggest that we do a good job with this list & have our little min-HKMDB. This way anyone who hastheir own HK site could use it!!

Like I said, I don't mind doing this & the prospect of hours of tabulating results doesn't bother me.

[Cirrus888]

Shingster it looks like you have everything under control so I better get my HK film watching up to date as well as refreshing what is a hazy memory for the hundred or so movies I watched in the mid - 90s on laserdisc. :)

I forgot to say I think option 2 is best. Stops us from naming and rating the same films. This saves us time to discover and watch new stuff.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Shingster
Personally, I think it's a choice of 3 ways:

New list from scratch, then the rating + calculate mode will be the system that gives the lesser seen titles the best deal. This will take a lot more time, but I think it would be interesting to see the results. The cons will be in choosing the right list of titles & obviously how long it would take. Another advantage is that it's easy to update, every year(or less?) people could rate the HK films that have been released since the last film was made & add them to the list.

If we add to the original list & use the same rating system then the list will be limited to what films the 12 judges have seen, but I think there's at least 12 people on these forums who've seen a fair few titles! ;) This method will be quick, but it'll be difficult to come up with a list. I guess this would be the hard to update as it relies on a specific number of people to have seen specific titles.

The Vote for your favourites method will get the most votes, so it too will take a while, but at least we don't have to worry about coming up with a decent list. The problem with this method is that you can expect the Woo,Chan,Lee & HKL titles to swamp out any other titles. You can't really update this, so you'd have to create a new list for newer titles.

If you're getting e-mails from people who visit your site Tpr007, then I suggest that we do a good job with this list & have our little min-HKMDB. This way anyone who hastheir own HK site could use it!!

Like I said, I don't mind doing this & the prospect of hours of tabulating results doesn't bother me.

Options 1+2 are best.
I'm sure i'm not alone in being happy to re-rate the list, adding post-95 titles. Trouble is picking which ones to add.
Obvious ones include:
- Fist of legend
- Shaolin Soccer
- Gen-X Cops
- The late 90's HKL lot (not Body Weapon or Hitman!!!!!)
- CT,HD
- Accidental Spy
- Hero (yuen biao's)
- In The Mood For Love
- Legend of Zu
- Who Am I?
and on and on with great (and possibly not so great) titles - so many, but I am tired (2am!)

What about films like "Drive". It always gets mentioned when a newbie asks about great fights???
Let's not confuse things, cos then we'd have to put in things like Kiss of the Dragon...

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
Shingster it looks like you have everything under control so I better get my HK film watching up to date as well as refreshing what is a hazy memory for the hundred or so movies I watched in the mid - 90s on laserdisc. :)

I now what you mean Cirrus, I've seen nearly all Jackie Chans films, but I'd be buggered if I can rember all of them. Mind you titles like New Fist Of Fury & To Kill With Intrigue are best forgotten.

Whatever method we choose, I think it would we best to stick with films that are available on DVD. Do you think this is fair? It might be easy to create the film list from the titles listed at DDDHouse.

[tpr007]

DDDhouse list would be too restrictive. It leaves out many great films (eg Tiger Cage 2, Dead and the Deadly, Heroes among Heroes, and Warriors Two etc)

Perhaps theirs + Poker Industries (or maybe just Poker? They probably have all ddd's discs?)

Well, Ive just e-mailed Michael at Pokerindustries to see if he has a full list he could send me!

I'll check back tomorrow as I'm going to bed!

Bye!

[Jimmyboy]

Looking good so far.

Are we to include DVD ratings as well or will it just make it even more confusing ?.


How about meeting up on an IRC chat room late on friday as it would be easier to discuss in real time ?.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Looking good so far.

Are we to include DVD ratings as well or will it just make it even more confusing ?.


How about meeting up on an IRC chat room late on friday as it would be easier to discuss in real time ?.

perhaps a side note if a DVD is particualrly poor quality - eg Eastern Heroes :D

otherwise not! Anyway, not all the films Ive seen have been on DVD. Plus, if someone decides on a film they'd like to see - the asian dvd guide can provide the Specs!

[Cirrus888]

To start the list off these are the ones I remember as worth watching:

Beast Cops - gordon chan
Big Bullet - benny chan
Comrades almost a love story - peter chan
Feel 100%
First Option - gordon chan
*******/Off
Full Alert
Full Throttle
He Ain't heavy, Hes my father
A hero never dies - johnny To
He's a woman, Shes a man
The HK triad
I have a date with spring
Its a wonderful Life
The Mission
Running out of time
Shanghai Grand
Summer snow
Viva erotica
Where a good man goes

OK those are ones i remember as highlights (all available on DVD), many i have seen on laserdisc but are not available on DVD yet.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy

How about meeting up on an IRC chat room late on friday as it would be easier to discuss in real time ?.

good idea. but I'm going to a wedding tomorrow and will be away all weekend :(
Any other time is A-ok! how about MSNmessenger.
where do u suggest?

[Shingster]

Originally posted by tpr007
perhaps a side note if a DVD is particualrly poor quality - eg Eastern Heroes :D
I was thinking that I could just get a list out there first, then modify it to include the format that each film is available on & maybe which version is the best buy. It would be easy to convey all this info without having to write an essay on each film.

If Michael gives you their list then we could use this thread to narrow it down to a definitive one.

[tpr007]

Good Idea

BTW - Did anyone notice Prodigal Son on that list?
Pah! :mad:
or On The Run, or Righting Wrongs :nuts:
Lam Ching-ying & Yuen Biao were short changed!!

i must go to :nuts: :nuts: bed:brickwall

[Mr Vampire]

:nuts: and I must get cracking on the coursework/essay. :(

[Cirrus888]

OK looking at the poker industries list and there are some I missed:

All about Ah Long
C'est la vie mon cherie - (the one that started it all! before this I thought all HK movies were rubbish ... )
Chinese oddysey PT. 1 and 2
Forbidden city cop
God of cookery
Fight back to school 1 and 2
He and She
The leg fighters (childhood favourite! don't really remember it but it had some wicked martial arts!)
The Log
The Longest Summer - fruit chan
Made in HK
Mong kok story (I think?)
Once upon a time in Triad society 2 (PT.1 is also good but its not available on DVD)
One of the lucky ones
Victim

[Dinghiy]

Originally posted by Mr Vampire
:nuts: and I must get cracking on the coursework/essay. :(

Yeah you can get started now Mr Geung see :p

[sticker]

[SIZE=3]
Just saw Shaolin last night - Is there only one version of this available - I'm going to grab a copy from DDDhouse - Anyone know if it's the extras-crammed version - THX

DA STICKER, Dublin:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Mr Vampire]

Originally posted by sticker
[SIZE=3]
Just saw Shaolin last night - Is there only one version of this available - I'm going to grab a copy from DDDhouse - Anyone know if it's the extras-crammed version - THX

DA STICKER, Dublin:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
It's got extras, but it isn't THX certified if that's what you're getting ;)

[tpr007]

Originally posted by sticker
[SIZE=3]
Just saw Shaolin last night - Is there only one version of this available - I'm going to grab a copy from DDDhouse - Anyone know if it's the extras-crammed version - THX

DA STICKER, Dublin:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Yep - it's the Daddy!
and a bloody bargain!:D

[Shingster]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
How about meeting up on an IRC chat room late on friday as it would be easier to discuss in real time ?.

If you're away over the weekend Tpr007, how about Monday night??? You choose the location Jim.

I was thinking, if we just compile a list of 100-200 titles, not a lot of people are going to want to wade through all those titles in one go when they're voting, so we won't get such a good response.
The solution would be to take each list, i.e: Martial Arts, Drama, Horror, Comedy, Gunplay/Thriller, and then split the voting over a month, with 1 week dedicated to a poll in each categorie.
I.E Start off with a Martial Arts list, take votes for a week, then next week do a poll for a Comedy list, etc.

At the end we can combine all lists.
What do you think of this idea??

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Shingster


If you're away over the weekend Tpr007, how about Monday night??? You choose the location Jim.

I was thinking, if we just compile a list of 100-200 titles, not a lot of people are going to want to wade through all those titles in one go when they're voting, so we won't get such a good response.
The solution would be to take each list, i.e: Martial Arts, Drama, Horror, Comedy, Gunplay/Thriller, and then split the voting over a month, with 1 week dedicated to a poll in each categorie.
I.E Start off with a Martial Arts list, take votes for a week, then next week do a poll for a Comedy list, etc.

At the end we can combine all lists.
What do you think of this idea??

monday nights fine!

[Shingster]

O.K, Jimmyboy's not here at the moment, so I guess we'll sort the time & place out later, you just check it before Monday night I guess.

[Jimmyboy]

OK, well using mirc I find that efnet is probably the most reliable server so how about = Monday at 11.00, on the efnet server using tpr007 website as the chatroom - dragonsden -


So thats 11 at night, on efnet, #dragonsden

The first person to log on will create the chatroom.

Sound ok ?.

[Shingster]

Sounds o.k to me! :)
Anyone else interested in turning up?

[Peter UK]

Originally posted by Shingster
Sounds o.k to me! :)
Anyone else interested in turning up?

Yeah me :) but you'll have to explain all this mirc / efnet business to me.

Pete

[Shingster]

I have no idea myself! :confused: I'm sure Jimmyboy will be able to sort us out on the night.

[Jimmyboy]

Mirc is a free internet chat program available here (http://www.mirc.com).

I suggest you give it the once over this weekend to become familiar with it by monday, its quite straight forward.

EFnet is the IRC server we'll be using & dragonsden is the name of the chatroom.
This should all become clear after downloading the mirc program.

[Shingster]

I can't get that link to work at the moment. :(

[Jimmyboy]

Its working fine for me. :confused:

[kanedaa]

can't see why I can't make it monday night, so expect me to be there.

dave.

[Shingster]

It's working fine for me now, I'm downloading the program as I write this.
Is this the same thing as the one that was used at DVD Times (Or was it BnB?) when the forums changed servers?

[Cirrus888]

Monday night is problematic for me as I am staying over at a friend's house but I have listed what I think should be included on the overall list anyway.

Keep me posted.

[Shingster]

We could meet up on Tuesday instead if you want Cirrus.

[Jimmyboy]

Cirrus could you not use a pc from your friends house ?.
It would be great to have you there.

[Cirrus888]

I'm staying for 2 or 3 nights (not sure), so theres no need to rearrange for my sake. Maybe the second meet up next weekend?

[Mr Vampire]

What time? Wait a mo... monday hmmm... not free :(
Tuesday night is the best night for me (only day I don't have to work), however I don't want to disuade your pre-nuptual arrangement. Anyhows, I find using Mirc a arse to use for some strange reason :D

[Shingster]

I think it'll be best to move it to Tuesday night then. How much a fan of Kung Fu flicks are you Cirrus?? I get the feeling this is Tpr's strongest area so we could start with that list first.
Out of the 5 genre's that I stated earlier, which one to you care least for Ciruss? We could start with that one 1st.

[Cirrus888]

Yes I think you guys can start the kung Fu list first as I do tend to know little and/or dislike those films the most. I don't dislike the Kung Fu genre I just think most of it is not up to good movie standard.

[Shingster]

Yeah, I think the Kung Fu genre has the highest crap:good ratio, but when they're done right they're great.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Shingster
I think it'll be best to move it to Tuesday night then. How much a fan of Kung Fu flicks are you Cirrus?? I get the feeling this is Tpr's strongest area so we could start with that list first.
Out of the 5 genre's that I stated earlier, which one to you care least for Ciruss? We could start with that one 1st.

Hi
just got back!
sorry to miss so many posts.

Monday or Tuesday is OK.
downloading Mirc as we speak - hope it works,

gotta dash again.
back later 2nite!!!

[Shingster]

I guess it's Tuesday night now, you want to meet up at the same time you gave for Monday Jimmyboy???

[Jimmyboy]

OK, tuesday at 11 then.

[Mr Vampire]

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
OK, tuesday at 11 then. Nooooo!!!!..... your getting into my pRon time :D (j/k.)
Anyone got MSN messenger and want to to contact me before 11pm tuesday, find me on yangshouwen@hotmail.com
I find MSN easier to use. However I'll have another crack at Mirc on Tue.

[Shingster]

If you keep having problems with Mirc by Tuesday, we could keep you informed via this thread if you want.

[Jimmyboy]

cool.

Up late tonight Shingster ?. ;)

[Shingster]

I've been having too many late nights recently, so I'm off to bed early tonight!!! Goodnight all. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/sleep2.gif

[niz]

may be interested in this top ten HK list:

http://www.heroic-cinema.com/topten/topten_overall.htm

[Shingster]

Not a bad list, that, although how The Blade got more votes than ChungKing Express I'll never know. Also general preference towards Chinese Ghost Story 2??? It's a glorified re-make of the 1st one!!

[Shingster]

Just thought I'd bump this up for tomorrow!!
I'm copying Kung Fu films off the IMDB at the moment, but I've only done the 3 brothers so far.

[Jimmyboy]

Just so everyone knows -
Mirc, Tuesday 11.00pm, EFnet, #dragonsden


:)

[Mr Vampire]

Anyone up for the chat?
Still can't work round Mirc, so's anyone with MSN able to give me progress?
Thanks.

[kanedaa]

we're chatting now Mr.Vampire....its on Mirc - do you have it installed? if so, do this....

load it up, in the 'mirC options' box choose the following settings...

IRC Servers = EFNet
then in box below.. EFNet, EU, UK, Demon

click 'Connect to IRC Server'

when its joined you'll get a 'choose channel box'

type in

#dragonsden

hit return and you should be there.

dave.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Mr Vampire
Anyone up for the chat?
Still can't work round Mirc, so's anyone with MSN able to give me progress?
Thanks.
do u have MIRC
i have MSN messenger: ryn336@hotmail.com

[Shingster]

Hi vampire! Have you downloaded the Mirc software?
If so load it up & the Mirc options box comes up, enter all the details they ask you for.
Once you've done this, go to the IRC Servers ScrollBar & highlight EFNet. Then click on "Connect to IRC Server"
Once you're connected a box called "MIRC channels folder" will pop up. Simply type in "dragonsden" as the name of channel to join & voila, you're there!


If you still can't get into the chatroom, then basically I'm going to start a new thread where I list a shed load of Hk films & we basically eliminate the titles that are not famous/infamous enough to include in the final list!

-I knew I took too long writing this post, I've been beaten to it! ;)

[Shingster]

O.K, so far, this is the list that we've managed to come up with:

8 diagram pole fighter (1983)
36th Chamber of Shaolin (1978)
A Man Called Hero (1999)
A Touch of Zen
Above the Law (1987)
Accidental Spy (2001)
Angel (1987)
Angel of Vengeance (1993)
Avenging Quartet (1992)
Armour of God (1986)
Armour Of God 2: Operation Condor
Ballistic Kiss (1998)
Big Boss, The (1971)
Butterfly and Sword (1993)
Black Mask (1996)
Blade, the
Blade of Fury (1993)
Bodyguard from Beijing, The (1994)
Broken Oath (1977)
Buddhist Fist, The (1980)
Carry on Pickpocket (1982)
Challenge of the masters (1976)
Champions, The (1983/II)
Cheetah on Fire (1993)
Circus Kids (1994)
City Hunter
Crime Story (1993)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
Dance of the Drunk Mantis (1979)
Dead and the deadly
Deadend of Besiegers (1992)
Dirty Ho (1979)
Dirty Tiger and Crazy Frog (1978)
Disciples of the 36th Chamber (1985)
Don't Give a Damn (1994)
Dr. Wai and the Scripture Without Words (1996)
Dragon Kickboxer (1988)
Dragon Lord (1982)
Dragons Forever (1987)
Dreadnaught (1981)
Drunken Master (1978)
Drunken Master 2 (1994)
Drunken Master 3 (1995)
Drunken Tai-Chi (1984)
Eastern Condors (1986)
Eight Tales of Gold (1990)
Encounters of the Spooky Kind (1980)
Encounters of the Spooky Kind II (1980)
Enter the Fat Dragon (1978)
Fantasy Mission Force (1984)
Fearless Hyena (1979)
Fearless Hyena Part II (1983)
First Mission, The (1985)
Fist of Legend (1997)
Fist of Fury
Fist of Fury: The Sequel (2001)
Fong Sai-Yuk (1993)
Fong Sai-Yuk II (1993)
Gambling Ghost (1991)
Game of Death II (1981)
Gorgeous (1999)
Hand of Death (1975)
Hapkido (1972)
Haunted Hunter (1997)
Hero (1997)
Hero Among Heroes (1993)
Heroic Trio, The (1992)
Heroic Trio 2: Executioners (1993)
High Risk (1995)
Hitman (1998)
Holy Virgin vs. the Evil Dead (1990)
Iceman Cometh, The (1989)
In the line of Duty 1:
In the line of Duty 2: Yes madam!
In The Line Of Duty 3: (1988)
In the Line of Duty 4: Witness (1989)
In the line of Duty 5
In the line of Duty 6 (1990)
In the line of Duty 7 (1991)
Iron-Fisted Monk (1977)
Iron Monkey (1993)
Iron Monkey 2 (1996)
Island of Fire (1990)
Kick Boxer (1993)
Kickboxers Tear (1992)
Kid from Tibet, A (1991)
Knockabout (1979)
Kung Fu Cult Master, The (1993)
Lady Kung Fu (1972)
Lady Whirlwind (1972)
Last Hero in China (1993)
Legend of a Fighter (1982)
Legend of the Wolf (1997)
Legend of Zu, The (2001)
Legendary Weapons of Kung fu (1982)
Legends of Shaolin (1994)
Lethal Lady (1990)
Mad Monkey Kung fu (1979)
Madam City Hunter (1993)
Magic Cop (1990)
Magnificent Butcher (1979)
Magnificent Warriors (1987)
Martial Club (1981)
Master, The (1989)
Miracle Fighters (1982)
Miracles (1989)
Mismatched Couples (1985)
Mr. Nice Guy (1998)
Mr Vampire(1985)
Mr. Vampire 2 (1986)
Mr. Vampire 3 (1987)
My Lucky Stars (1985)
My Lucky Stars 2: Twinkle, Twinkle Lucky Stars (1985)
My Father Is a Hero (1995)
New Dragon Gate Inn (1992)
Odd Couple (1979)
On the Run (1988)
Once Upon a Time in China (1991)
Once Upon a Time in China II (1992)
Once Upon a Time in China III (1993)
Once Upon a Time in China and America (1997)
One Armed Swordsman
Outlaw Brothers (1988)
Owl vs. Dumbo (1984)
Painted Faces (1988)
Pantyhose Killer (1990)
Paper Marriage (1988)
Peacock King (1988)
Pedicab Driver (1989)
Police Story (1985)
Police Story 2 (1988)
Police Story 3: Supercop (1992)
Police Story 4: First Strike (1996)
Pom Pom (1984)
Portrait of a Nymph (1988)
Prodigal Son (1983)
Project A (1983)
Project A 2 (1987)
Project S (1993)
Red Wolf, The (1995)
Royal Warriors (1986)
Rumble in the Bronx (1996)
Satan Returns (1996)
School on fire(1988)
Shangai Affairs (1998)
Shanghai Encounter (1990)
Shanghai Express (1986)
Shaolin Challenges Ninja (1979)
Shaolin Temple, The (1979)
Shaolin Temple 2: Kids from Shaolin (1983)
Shaolin Temple 3: Martial Arts of Shaolin (1986)
She Shoots Straight (1990)
Shogun and His Little Kitchen (1991)
Skinny Tiger and Fatty Dragon (1990)
Skyhawk (1974)
Slickers vs. Killers (1991)
Snake in the Eagle's Shadow (1978)
Somebody Up There Likes Me (1996)
Story of Ricky (1989)
Stunt Woman, The (1996)
Sword Stained with Royal Blood (1993)
Swordsman 1
Swordsman 2 (1991)
Tai Chi Master, The (1993)
Thunderbolt (1995)
Tiger Cage (1988)
Tiger Cage 2 (1990)
Tiger Cage 3 (1991)
Tiger on Beat (1988)???????
Twin Dragons (1992)
Ultracop 2000 (1992)
Warriors Two (1978)
Wheels on Meals (1984)
Who Am I? (1998)
Wing Chun (1994)
Winners and Sinners (1983)
Yes madam!
Young Master (1980)
Zen of Sword (1992)
Zu: Warriors of the Magic Mountain (1983)

Approximately 188 titles, with many more to come. Yikes! :D

[Cirrus888]

You guys have been busy little bees ... although I am more than happy to rate the above films on the list, I do think a little quality control is needed as half the films aren't worth mentioning it will just confuse newbies.

[Mr Vampire]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
You guys have been busy little bees ... although I am more than happy to rate the above films on the list, I do think a little quality control is needed as half the films aren't worth mentioning it will just confuse newbies. Yeah, but we was pi$$ing around until 'bout 4 and grabbed lists to start the ball rolling. (I didn't get on til after 12 because I didn't know how to work Mirc... :rolleyes: ). Well I did, Shigs and Tpr were busy bees indeed.

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Cirrus888
You guys have been busy little bees ... although I am more than happy to rate the above films on the list, I do think a little quality control is needed as half the films aren't worth mentioning it will just confuse newbies.

this list has already filtered out most of the real "dross"! A few dodgy ones have been left in to stop people asking questions like "but ive heard theres a sequel to Iron Monkey, Tai Chi Master, etc..."

it will be filtered more when they are rated. :D

[Shingster]

I wouldn't have had a clue what to put on the list if it wasn't for Tpr, and he still has fims he wants to include on it!
The Kung Fu list should be the biggest though! It's the one us Westerners are most familiar with.
Are we still meeteing up tonight at 10.p.m?

[tpr007]

Originally posted by Shingster
I wouldn't have had a clue what to put on the list if it wasn't for Tpr, and he still has fims he wants to include on it!
The Kung Fu list should be the biggest though! It's the one us Westerners are most familiar with.
Are we still meeteing up tonight at 10.p.m?

10pm is OK - can't stay till 4am again though!!! :eek:

[Jimmyboy]

are we only sticking to action and martial art films then ?.

[Shingster]

I was thinking that it would be best to do a Kung fu list first, then having a poll on that, then do a comedy poll, then a gunplay one etc. This way we'll have to meet up eaqch week & come up with w list for each genre. So this week we'll do the Kung fu list!

[Shingster]

Originally posted by tpr007
10pm is OK - can't stay till 4am again though!!! :eek:

Well, the Kung fu list is nearly done, so hopefully it'll only take a couple of hours to finish.

Mr. Vampire if you can't get there for ten then just turn up whenever you want m8!

[megatron]

Anyone know which is the best On the Run dvd, Deltamac or Megastar?

[Samuel Downey]

Can I just say I've furthered my knowledge of HK cinema quite a bit with this thread. Just ordered myself a load of DDD House (I remember seeing bullet in the head when I was very young and at the time thinking it was the best film I had ever seen) Though I must add, I didn't think much of The Killer. In fact, I thought it was daft (though maybe I just don't fully GET Asian action films) THough I did love hard boiled so who knows, maybe its just the shocking DVD releases that seem to find their ways onto the R2's.
I also bought a Korean DVD, Goodbye to Mr Sympathy or something (mentioned in another thread on the review forum) Here's hoping it turns out to be as good as its said to be.

[ralph wiggum]

:eek: Were the hell did you guys dig this thread up from? :D

Originally posted by Samuel Downey
.I also bought a Korean DVD, Goodbye to Mr Sympathy or something (mentioned in another thread on the review forum) Here's hoping it turns out to be as good as its said to be.

Would that be Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance? :lol:
If so, it's a cracking film IMHO :thumbs: .

[Boink!]

I just picked up a VCD (official) of Knockabout and it looks to be a cracking film. One thing that confused the heck out of me was the fact the audio seemed to be doubled... :confused:
On closer listening I worked out that there were two audio tracks encoded on the discs, one ported to the left audio channel and the other to the right. Is this the norm for VCD's?


Boink!

[Peter UK]

[i]On closer listening I worked out that there were two audio tracks encoded on the discs, one ported to the left audio channel and the other to the right. Is this the norm for VCD's?
[/B]

Yep. Top film too :clap:

[Boink!]

Yeah, only been after a copy for ages. Also finally tracked down a (VHS and the only decent version out there) copy of Pedicab Driver. All a matter of waiting (and having some money, of course).

[Cirrus888]

woah ... blast from the past ... :D :dork:

[Shingster]

Man this thread has made me all nostalgic.
Anyone crazy enough to read through this old thread and are wondering where the results of the poll are, you can find them here. (http://www.shingy.hostrocket.com)

(Sorry about the lack of images, I ran out of money to keep the proper adress online so I've had to store it in an alt location for now & can't be bothered to update the pages with the correct urls.)

[Boink!]

Shingster, I have saved your results and pix as a multipage Excel spreadsheet ( :dork: , I know ) and use it for working out which HK films to buy. It's a great help. :thumbs:

At some point you're going to have to update it with all the new films that are coming out. ;)

Cheers,

Boink!

[Paul490]

Originally posted by megatron
Anyone know which is the best On the Run dvd, Deltamac or Megastar?

I have the Deltamac DVD of On the Run - and while it isn't great I think it's uncut. It's only non-anamorphic though. :|

[Peter UK]

Originally posted by Paul490
I have the Deltamac DVD of On the Run - and while it isn't great I think it's uncut. It's only non-anamorphic though. :|

It's cut (both are); missing a scene at the end :(

[Paul490]

Originally posted by Peter UK
It's cut (both are); missing a scene at the end :(

Do you know what that scene is? The epilogue is also barely readable...

[Paul490]

I've just checked out what was cut.

This link is worth a look (http://www.asiandvdguide.com/reviews/ontherunjp.html)

[Peter UK]

Originally posted by Paul490
I've just checked out what was cut.

This link is worth a look (http://www.asiandvdguide.com/reviews/ontherunjp.html)

I believe it's on the VHS too although I'm not positive. I think tpr007 has it so he can tell you for sure...

Another top film :clap: But then again I'm a sucka for anything with Biao in (almost :D )

[tpr007]

yes the MIHK vhs is as uncut as you can get for a HK film ;)