VGA out on dvd player? any use?

[Shepski]

Hiya,

I am looking to get a cheap stand-in player until I decide what other recorder to replace my panny dmr-e55 with and I have found this (http://www.andrewboss.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=DVD2820).

Now it goes on to say that the VGA does 800 lines pscan. My hitachi 37pd5200 has a spare vga port so I am wondering if this will give me a better result than using component.

Any thoughts or other "cheap" players to look at that have at least component out.

thanks

[adhun]

It could be a good thing, unfortunately until you try it it will be almost impossible to know.

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[Grandmaster]

If the Hitachi has a DVI port get a Momitsu V880 from www.hivizone.com - in fact, buy one any way because you can put one of those DVI to VGA adaptors you get with PC graphics cards on it and benefit from a superb picture that can be customised to meet the exact refresh rate of your plasma. The Momitsu also has component out and will scale to any HD resolution.

I don't see the point of spending thousands on a plasma TV and then feeding it with a signal from a £55 DVD player. These players are built to a price, not to quality. Just a badly shielded power cable will ruin the image when it's blown up on a plasma screen.

[Shepski]

thats just it, i do not want a long term mega bishing and boshing unit, i just want something that will suffice for now and rather buying one of the really cheapones from tescos etc I thought I would buy one with a bit more functionality. Eventually it will be replaced by another dvd recorder once I have decided on one so my originla question still stands.

Thanks for the info on that player tho but £200 is too rich for what will be a temporary player.

[adhun]

I wouldnt call the momitsu top of the pile now..... it is good at what it does but still easily improved upon...... a plasma typically deserves so much more.

If this is really just short short term, why not just pop down to richersounds and get a budget tosh? It wouldnt be my long term choice but in terms of keeping you going and not losing alot of money, it will be tough to beat

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[Shepski]

i will not be "losing" any money as such, when replaced the dvd will go elsewhere in the house but we digress from my orginal question regarding VGA. I have got one anyway via the chaps ebay account (got it for £40 which was a nice bonus) so I will report back my findings once I have it and compared the VGA to Component.

Now to go and box up my panny e55.....

[nwgarratt]

I would be interested in what you find out.

I am also interested in trying out VGA for DVD as I just got a projector and thinking of trying out what DVD's played from a PC is like.

At the moment I have an EBench DVD player using PS component.

[Grandmaster]

I wouldnt call the momitsu top of the pile now..... it is good at what it does but still easily improved upon...... a plasma typically deserves so much more.


How can you improve the pure digital picture you get from a DVI output? Are there other DVI players out there without the HDMI nonsense that offer a digital picture better than the Momitsu? The fact is that you're getting HCPC quality for less than £200.

[adhun]

You are getting nearly HCPC quality picture for less than £200. You are gaining functionality that takes huge times to get with a PC. If it were me, I wouldnt go for the momitsu every time as i have tried and fallen out with hcpc. However, the ability to customise the PC almost precisely will unquestionably provide the potential for a better picture. That and of course the sound quality on the pc is going to be better if you make any real effort.

As for how can one improve upon the pure digital picture from the momitsu dvi, well that is easy! Just because the information has remained in the digital domain does not mean that what is coming through the dvi is what is on the disc. Personally I dont believe that a transport is a transport, but many do so I wont use this. But even assuming you get everything off the disc that was on it, you have all sorts of processing steps, decoding, deinterlacing, scaling, color space conversions etc. We know all MPEG decoders are not equal, we also know that deinterlacing and scaling are art forms and can take many thousands of pounds to get correct, the momitsu can do it, but dont kid yourself into believing it does it particularly well. So better machines will make really significant improvements on the momitsu as well as alternative techniques. I use a serial digital interface on my arcam player and it is routed through a video processor and is actually output in RGBHV. So I am not even using a 'pure digital' system but can tell you that this technique will be miles better than the momitsu.

Im not saying the momitsu isnt good at what it does, rather that if you spend more money you will definitely get improvements if you know how to go about it.

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[Shepski]

received the andrewboss player. will let you know whats it like when I have plugged it on tonight.

[broona]

received the andrewboss player. will let you know whats it like when I have plugged it on tonight.

I'm after a DIVX player at the moment, would be very interested to know how this player performs, any comments on it yet? :)