Big Brother 5 Part 8

[Alan. b]

Lets the discussions continue...

[Richie]

Can we have a 'winners poll' or something, so we can see who the forumites think is going to win?

[morleyian]

That would be pointless, Nadia has won it already. If it were to be who we want to win, that would work :)

[Richie]

That's what I meant!

[morleyian]

Well that's ok then :p

[mjb1975]

Stuart!

(sorry it's against the grain, but that's my vote anyway).

[DM]

Bubble!

(Jason)

[Big A]

Victor......oh wait he died along with the show

[thescrounger]

That would be pointless, Nadia has won it already. If it were to be who we want to win, that would work :)

Well my vote went to Dan.

[StuBruise]

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=145570 :nuts:

It does seem to be him as well...

~~stu

[morleyian]

Well my vote went to Dan.

Still won't win :wave:

[thescrounger]

We don't know that. But so long as Knadia doesn't win, I'm happy. :thumbs:

[morleyian]

She will, 10-1 ON at the bookies says so :p

[Squirrel God]

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=145570 :nuts:

It does seem to be him as well...

~~stu
Even without him ringing one of the moderators, you could tell it was him from the way he was posting - imagine him saying the words in that way sort of thing.

But anyway, that thread is hilarious! :lol:

This post in particular cracked me up for some reason :lol:



I LOVE U MARCO! i wanted u 2 win!

your name would suggest different

:lol: :lol:

[Richie]

So who will go on Wednesday night then?
NADIA TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

[cedge]

Nadia is very irritating (last night in the highlights she kept on moaning about only been allowed 1 hour to pack, everyone just got on with it apart from her) :oh-hum:

Attention Seeking all the time :mad:

Anyone apart from Nadia/Shell/Dan to win :D

[beaky]

Nadia is very irritating (last night in the highlights she kept on moaning about only been allowed 1 hour to pack, everyone just got on with it apart from her) :oh-hum:

Attention Seeking all the time :mad:

Anyone apart from Nadia/Shell/Dan to win :D

:razz:

Nadia to win :thumbs:

[cedge]

I would like to add that Nadia shouldn't win purely on the way that she can not survive without cigarettes.

I dont smoke but If I did I would have;

a) Brought enough into the house in the first place and
b) Spread them out and pace myself over the 10 weeks so I wouldn't run out.

For a smoker not to be able to do this and then to beg Big Brother for more (who really should have stood their ground and not given Nadia anymore) should not deserve to win and not to mention her disrespect for the non smokers in the house! :mad:

For Example, saying to Jason when he requested that no one smokes on the sofa when they are all together that if she wanted to smoke on the sofa's then she will!! :oh-hum: :eek:

[thescrounger]

I can't believe Nadia is set to win :oh-hum:

[jonathan.e]

Depressing isn’t it? I’m clinging onto the hope that it might just be a case of C4 and the rest saying it often enough to try and make it happen as Go-nads would probably generate the most coverage for the programme.

Can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Nadia. Horrible, horrible person.

[sigur]

Can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Nadia. Horrible, horrible person.


Because she is a transexual or ?

[cjanderson]

Depressing isn’t it? I’m clinging onto the hope that it might just be a case of C4 and the rest saying it often enough to try and make it happen as Go-nads would probably generate the most coverage for the programme.

Can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Nadia. Horrible, horrible person.

I agree she is nosiy and loud etc. But better that than the dull plesantness that is shell? or stu?

And comments like yours about go-nads and others saying she is a freak, just make me want to vote for her, just because others have such a huge issue with her. I suspect a lot of people feel the same, just want to show that we are not all closed minded out there. So its a vote of acceptance rather than a vote for her.

But i can;t be bothered to vote, if nadia wins, fair play to her.

[Richie]

Can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Nadia. Horrible, horrible person.

oh come on!
Would you really rather have Princess Drip win? or Flaccid Chicken Stew? or The Pretentious Pouter? or The Orange Gurner?

Jason is the horrible, horrible person in the group! He's the embodiment of everything that's wrong with a weak, repressed male psyche. Vanity personified and devoid of a personality, with a 'sense of humour' that revels only in other people's faults for his own amusement. He's a dickless himbo who doesn't even have the balls to admit that he has ginger hair! I just can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Jason! :p

Shell: A bit of minge, that's her total contribution to the entertainment!

Stu: Seriously like, what's the point to him, man? He didn't even get like er, nekkid!

Dan: Oh purlease who does this up his own arse stroker think he is?

Nadia: Just fabulous! wearing heels in the shower! :cuckoo: what's not to love?! :bow:

[downhillbiker]

Nadia: Just fabulous! wearing heels in the shower! :cuckoo: what's not to love?! :bow:

1) She's pathetic, cries at the slightest thing
2) Has the world's most horrible laugh
3) Is thick as mince
4) Has the most annoying attitude of any of the housemates

Jason should win, as he's the only one of the group who has shown any sort of interesting behaviour throughout - be it fight night, he and Victor's chats, or his comedy hard-man attitude, he's the only one left who seems to have any sort of entertainment value.

But Nadia will win because of the number of people who see her as a charity case for some reason ("oh, but she's been through a lot, she should win...").

[thescrounger]

Apparently Jasons odds have risen today!

[Richie]

1) She's pathetic, cries at the slightest thing
No, that would be Shell!
2) Has the world's most horrible laugh
This is very subjective, I find it infectious!
3) Is thick as mince
Oh come on! they ALL are! Shell and Stu are perfect examples of the continually falling standard of education in this country!
4) Has the most annoying attitude of any of the housemates
No, that would be Dan with his 'above it all, far too good for such a base show' - if that's his attitude WHY did he ever audition in the first place? Oh yes, to enhance his star making profile and that of the crap europap group he's a member of! :oh-hum:

Jason should win, as he's the only one of the group who has shown any sort of interesting behaviour throughout - be it fight night, he and Victor's chats, or his comedy hard-man attitude, he's the only one left who seems to have any sort of entertainment value.
So, laying around with a sour expression whilst spouting off all kinds of rubbish that he never follows through with, feeling himself up constantly and making sweet love to his own reflection every 2 hours before entering his daily one-person gurning contest is 'entertainment value' is it? Hmmm, he's so entertaining I wish it would never end.

But Nadia will win because of the number of people who see her as a charity case for some reason ("oh, but she's been through a lot, she should win...").
Nope no charity from me, I couldn't care less if she once had a dick! - like I said before to vote for her for that reason would be extremely patronising for starters. Out of the remaing housemates she is the one who I've been consistently entertained by the most, therefore in my opinion she deserves to win! Simple really.

[sigur]

Funny how its mostly blokes who are vocal in their hate for Nadia. I think that says more about them than it does about some transexual.

[thescrounger]

Funny how its mostly blokes who are vocal in their hate for Nadia. I think that says more about them than it does about some transexual.

All it says is that they don't like her. I don't see how it could say anything else?

[DSG]

All it says is that they don't like her. I don't see how it could say anything else. :cuckoo:
Exactly. Why everyone assumes that people dislike Nadia because she's a transexual is beyond me.

I dislike her because I find her bloody annoying in general but I also found her inconsideration to the non-smokers appalling and her nicotine dependency ridiculous. BB should never have given in to her cravings by supplying extra fags.

[thescrounger]

Not to mention her rudeness towards Shells cooking. Which as Dan pointed out she should be grateful for. However she stormed off like a right old muppet.

[cjanderson]

All it says is that they don't like her.

Will you PLEASE stop acusing all people that dislike Nadia, of being transexual haters. This is getting very tiresome. :oh-hum:

Not all, but from this thread (and the earlier versions of it) some people clearly do (comments like freak etc).

[Kronik]

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=145570 :nuts:

It does seem to be him as well...

~~stu




We're still LEGALLY not allowed to discuss fight night. I think the exception was where Emma accidentally blabbed everything to Heat and they promised not to print it... :P It DID involve fists though (albeit briefly)...



Thats interesting and might explain as to why Emma was booted out in the end.

[Andrew70]

Jason is the horrible, horrible person in the group! He's the embodiment of everything that's wrong with a weak, repressed male psyche. Vanity personified and devoid of a personality, with a 'sense of humour' that revels only in other people's faults for his own amusement. He's a dickless himbo who doesn't even have the balls to admit that he has ginger hair! I just can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Jason!
jonathan.e identifies with him. :D

A.

[ohood]

Dan to win. hehe.

[thescrounger]

Dan or Jason should win.

[Richie]

jonathan.e identifies with him. :D

A.
The difference is that I actually like Mr.e (well his virtual personification on the forums anyway!). I may not always agree with him but at least his obvious personality comes across in his posts! I can't say the same about watching Jason on tv!

[Radiohead]

Oh come on! they ALL are! Shell and Stu are perfect examples of the continually falling standard of education in this country!


Stu maybe, but Shell? You don't get a First by being thick.

[Radiohead]

Not all, but from this thread (and the earlier versions of it) some people clearly do (comments like freak etc).

That's their right surely.

[sticky vicki]

OK, so I've only been watching this (on and off) for the past week or so, rest is just what i've read whilst bored at work - but I'd go for Stu to win.

Nadia is irritating, Shell just wants to be liked by everyone, Dan with his 'I don't want the money, it's vulgar' speech just annoyed me and Jason, who I think has actually been funny, reckon he's probably full of himself. I think he's been winding Dan up quite well which is entertaining.

Actually, Stu's reaction to the ice-cream machine was so over-the-top, maybe he's just as bad. Well as long as it's not Nadia (all I keep hearing is "One hour?" eurgh!) or Dan then that's ok. :D

[jonathan.e]

jonathan.e identifies with him. :D

A.


Always the last resort of the inarticulate poster who can’t argue their own POV to personalise their comment and insult another member as opposed to addressing the content of the original post.

You’ll be knocking on doors and running away next. :oh-hum:

.......


Thanks Richie - Likewise.

[Sam]

Well as long as it's not Nadia (all I keep hearing is "One hour?" eurgh!)

Dont you mean "WWWWone HOOOWWWEERRRR"

Nadia really irritates me but in doing so I've found her enteraining so if she wins I don't mind. As a smoker her nicotine addiction has been hilarious, she can't go 30 minutes without a fag:nuts:. My preference is Dan because his level of sarcasm has made me laugh on numerous occassions.

[gburnsid]

Of all the original 12 housemates, the only one that I can see absolutely nothing likeable about is Nadia. It's not that I particularly dislike her, it's just that there is nothing there - she hasn't done or said a single thing that I can see is in any way endearing, amusing or interesting.

Even Marco and Emma, probably my 2 least favourites of the ones who have gone, at least made me smile once or twice.

I don't care about the transsexual thing, I just don't understand why people are voting for her.

[sticky vicki]

Don't you mean "WWWWone HOOOWWWEERRRR"

That's the one - oh how it grates :doh: :D

[Andrew70]

Always the last resort of the inarticulate poster who can’t argue their own POV to personalise their comment and insult another member as opposed to addressing the content of the original post.

You’ll be knocking on doors and running away next. :oh-hum:

.......


Thanks Richie - Likewise.

Um, quite. It was a just a humourous reply.
Take a chill pill.

A.

[jonathan.e]

Um, quite. It was a just a humourous reply.

No, it was a spiteful reply.

Take a chill pill.

Ah, a Stewart fan. That explains everything.

[morleyian]

Ah, a Stewart fan. That explains everything.


It's Stuart :brickwall Stewart is a surname :p

[Andrew70]

No, it was a spiteful reply.



Ah, a Stewart fan. That explains everything.
Deep breaths, jonathan, deep breaths.....

[gburnsid]

It's Stuart :brickwall Stewart is a surname :p

Stewart is also a christian name (e.g. Stewart Copeland of the Police)

Stuart is also a surname.

He did spell it wrong for this particular Stuart of course.

[Richie]

Andrew, you're not actually going to vote for Stewie are you?!
please don't! I implore you! :D or do I beseech thee not to? :thinking:
like, whatevah! ;)

[jonathan.e]

And comments like yours about go-nads and others saying she is a freak...

Anyone with absurd fake tits like that I would term a freak.

I suspect a lot of people feel the same, just want to show that we are not all closed minded out there. So its a vote of acceptance rather than a vote for her.

Got nothing to do with what bits he/she has had chopped off or added on, it is to do with the vaccuum where a personality should be. Nadia mistakes tottering around on heels, preening, screeching at ear-splitting volume and throwing massive strops as being acceptable behaviour. He/she has done nothing else for 10 weeks. As with Jade in BB3, votes just validate and confirm that as acceptable and even laudable behaviour.

I’d be the first to defend Nadia if he/she had presented something other than this gross caricature but that’s not the case.

[jonathan.e]

It's Stuart :brickwall Stewart is a surname :p


Either/or.

[Andrew70]

Andrew, you're not actually going to vote for Stewie are you?!
please don't! I implore you! :D or do I beseech thee not to? :thinking:
like, whatevah! ;)
No, that was just a retaliatory personal attack by jonathan. :)
I think I posted earlier that I'd be happy for either Dan or Nadia to win.
(I agree with you 100% about her laugh by the way, it just provokes a smile response in me.)

A.

[Deron]

I wonder if Victor was still in the house if he'd have walked it...

Damn him for screwing it up and ranting at Shell. At least he seemed to have endearing traits to his personality. He could be a pain in the arse, but when he was nice he was genuine with it.

I've got to the stage of not watching it, but just catching up on here. I honestly can't pick someone out of this bunch who I want to win.

We should have a poll after Friday and see who everyone would have liked to have won out of all of the contestants...

If the mods are up for it of course.

[Richie]

Nadia mistakes tottering around on heels, preening, screeching at ear-splitting volume and throwing massive strops as being acceptable behaviour.

I’d be the first to defend Nadia if he/she had presented something other than this gross caricature but that’s not the case.

But this is Big Brother after all! It needs these bigger than life characters, even if they are absolute gross cariactures (which for all my Nadia-lovin' I can't deny, that's exactly what she is!) - so I guess that does include panto villians like Jason too! :eek: As a viewer I want BB to be outrageous and bonkers and a little bit unhinged! I'm so fed up of nice, dull people winning these things. I mean please I never, ever want to see another 'Cameron' as long as I live!

As much as I really cannot abide Jason I want to see him and Nadia face-off as the final two on Friday. That would be worth watching!

[RESSEH]

(comments like freak etc).

Virtually all of this year's bb contestents are freaks though :shrug:

[Richie]

Virtually all of this year's bb contestents are freaks though :shrug:

Except I don't think anyone would actually label Shell a 'freak' or even the obviously mentally unbalanced Michelle for that matter!

:help: I am posting far too much in the threads about this show, especially as I swore to myself that I wasn't going to watch any of it this year! :help:
"Just when you think you're out, they pull you back in!" :doh:

[cjanderson]

Anyone with absurd fake tits like that I would term a freak.



Got nothing to do with what bits he/she has had chopped off or added on, it is to do with the vaccuum where a personality should be. Nadia mistakes tottering around on heels, preening, screeching at ear-splitting volume and throwing massive strops as being acceptable behaviour. He/she has done nothing else for 10 weeks. As with Jade in BB3, votes just validate and confirm that as acceptable and even laudable behaviour.

I’d be the first to defend Nadia if he/she had presented something other than this gross caricature but that’s not the case.

All very valid points for disliking nadia, but you still say he/she, ie you can not ignore the fact that she used to be a man. Should we refer to Dan as "the queer poof". or Victor as "" well insert your own word for a person of black colour.

[dannywonderful]

Want to buy Emma's BB suitcase? She's auctioning it on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11236&item=2261190104&rd=1) .

[kjmacphee]

...
Got nothing to do with what bits he/she has had chopped off or added on
...
So why do you keep making a point of bringing it up through comments like "he/she" then?

[Richie]

Want to buy Emma's BB suitcase? She's auctioning it on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11236&item=2261190104&rd=1) .

Local pickup only (no postage)

What a cheap beatch! :razz:
And why exactly would anyone want her manky suitcase?! :cuckoo: In 3 months time we'll all be going Emma who's what?!

[jonathan.e]

All very valid points for disliking nadia, but you still say he/she, ie you can not ignore the fact that she used to be a man. Should we refer to Dan as "the queer poof". or Victor as "" well insert your own word for a person of black colour.



Legally he is still a man and always will be. You’re being deliberately provocative bringing in gay and racial slurs for comparison.

There’s a guy in the States transforming himself through surgery into a cat. Tail, claws, pointed teeth, bisected upper lip, whiskers - The lot. Should we call him a cat because he thinks he is or is he just a man who wants to be a cat?

[sigur]

All very valid points for disliking nadia, but you still say he/she, ie you can not ignore the fact that she used to be a man. Should we refer to Dan as "the queer poof". or Victor as "" well insert your own word for a person of black colour.

Well said CJ.

I reckon a lot of the people who dislike her are either not comfortable with their own sexuality or would have found her attractive if they didnt know it was a transexual.

[jolt]

Jason To Win!!!!!!!!!

[Richie]

There’s a guy in the States transforming himself through surgery into a representation of a human cat. Tail, claws, pointed teeth, bisected upper lip, whiskers - The lot. Should we call him a cat because he thinks he is or is he just a man who wants to be a cat?

Obviously Halle's protestations about cosmetic surgery fell on deaf ears there then! :lol:

But seriously, that's more than a little different! Trying to change yourself into a whole other species is more than a little bit far removed from changing your sex within your own human species, especially as it takes several years and mental health professionals to give you the go-ahead to do so.

[budgenk]

Legally he is still a man and always will bebe a cat?

Once all the operations and everything go through, transsexuals legal status changes so I believe. Are you so lacking in generosity of spirit that you have to try and undermine the other peoples' chance of happiness, or is it some sort of sexual crisis?

[jonathan.e]

Well said CJ.

I reckon a lot of the people who dislike her are either not comfortable with their own sexuality or would have found her attractive if they didnt know it was a transexual.


Jeez, talk about flogging a dead horse. You just won’t let this lie will you? It’s got nothing to do with gender and everything to do with personality. He/she has none, other than that of a selfish, attention seeking drama queen.

You surely have to be joking about finding Nadia attractive?! :gag:

[sigur]

He/she has none, other than that of a selfish, attention seeking drama queen.

You surely have to be joking about finding Nadia attractive?! :gag:


I dont but you sound like a 10 year who has a crush on someone but tries to hide it by being rude to them.

Im comfortable with my sexuality, the tone of your posts suggest that you are not.

[budgenk]

The difference is that I actually like Mr.e (well his virtual personification on the forums anyway!). I may not always agree with him but at least his obvious personality comes across in his posts! I can't say the same about watching Jason on tv!

I actually quite like Jason, he's a bit of a jerk, but I think he basically craves acceptance, so seeks to undermine others a bit toward that end, and outwardly rejects 'false' friendliness etc. This is probably largely due to his background, where he's the youngest sibling, adopted and pretty much rejected by siblings etc, he's proabably never really felt comfortable in any relationship, hence his womanising maybe? His little speech in the diary room when Michelle was evicted, about being accepted, was very revealing (if it wasn't just a ploy). I've voted for Jason, as I'm sure plenty of people will be voting Nadia anyway, mine was more about keeping him in till the final four.

[jonathan.e]

Once all the operations and everything go through, transsexuals legal status changes so I believe.


AFAIK, you’re wrong. There was the famous case of Tula, a Bond girl in one of the Roger Moore movies, who went as far as the European Court of Human rights but could not get legal recognition as anything other than his/her birth sex - a man.

Are you so lacking in generosity of spirit that you have to try and undermine the other peoples' chance of happiness, or is it some sort of sexual crisis?

You and sigur should share the same tired and tattered old hymn sheet as you’re both singing from the same page.

[redmosquito]

Well I can't stand nadia. Not because she is a Tranny, I couldn't give 2 hoots about that. but because she lacks any sort of personality, she's a selfish nasty person, with no redeeming qualitys what so ever. It's all me me me with her. The way she moaned about shells food, well I haven't seen you cooking you ungrateful sod. She's loud and has an anoying laugh and all she does is moan. Honestly I can't see one good thing about her, I don't understand why people want her to win.

[budgenk]

Always the last resort of the inarticulate poster who can’t argue their own POV to personalise their comment and insult another member as opposed to addressing the content of the original post.

You’ll be knocking on doors and running away next. :oh-hum:

.......


Thanks Richie - Likewise.

What about your ultra-erudite post about how you still have your meat and two veg and it's not in a dogfood tin in eastern europe or something like that? You've been throwing childish taunts around like confetti.

[jonathan.e]

I dont but you sound like a 10 year who has a crush on someone but tries to hide it by being rude to them.

Im comfortable with my sexuality, the tone of your posts suggest that you are not.


I’m just tired of people using simplistic reverse psychology to hide the fact that they don’t actually have an intelligent argument to offer.

Your cereal box philosophy: "Some people don’t like Nadia. Nadia is a transexual. Therefore they are somehow repressing latent homosexual feelings."

A crock.

[budgenk]

You and sigur should share the same tired and tattered old hymn sheet as you’re both singing from the same page.

You mean we agree that your anti-transsexual posts (including boasting about taunting transsexuals on DS) are bullying, spiteful and pointless? How unoriginal of us, we should come up with hilarious Bernard Manning-style material like you perhaps.

[budgenk]

Well I can't stand nadia. Not because she is a Tranny, I couldn't give 2 hoots about that. but because she lacks any sort of personality, she's a selfish nasty person, with no redeeming qualitys what so ever. It's all me me me with her. The way she moaned about shells food, well I haven't seen you cooking you ungrateful sod. She's loud and has an anoying laugh and all she does is moan. Honestly I can't see one good thing about her, I don't understand why people want her to win.

There you go, that's the difference between a post of someone giving reasons that Nadia's BEHAVIOUR irritates them and a string of cheap jibes about her (his/her/its - hurhur) situation. I personally find Nadia's behaviour amusing more often than irritating, but only because I'm watching it on tv. IRL I'd much rather be around someone like Shell or even Stu, but I don't consider them entertaining enough to get my vote. I've not voted for Nadia either, but at least she's not putting up a mask of politeness/indifference/childish awe which Shell, Dan and Stu have.

There probably are those overreacting around here and insinuating that any anti-Nadia post comes from a bigoted perspective, but equally there are a few punching below the belt, and then trying to deny it.

[jonathan.e]

What about your ultra-erudite post about how you still have your meat and two veg and it's not in a dogfood tin in eastern europe or something like that? You've been throwing childish taunts around like confetti.


Funny, I thought these threads were all about having some fun/comment about the contestants who have put themselves up for examination, not slagging other forum members when you’re not able to come up with anything else to say. But then you know that anyway. Ridiculing the idiots who have put themselves up for it by entering BB is one thing. Insulting other people on here for no good reason is not.

However if that‘s the way other posters want to play it......

[cjanderson]

Well I can't stand nadia. Not because she is a Tranny, I couldn't give 2 hoots about that. but because she lacks any sort of personality, she's a selfish nasty person, with no redeeming qualitys what so ever. It's all me me me with her. The way she moaned about shells food, well I haven't seen you cooking you ungrateful sod. She's loud and has an anoying laugh and all she does is moan. Honestly I can't see one good thing about her, I don't understand why people want her to win.

And thats fair enough, i agree with most of it. i'd hate to live with her.

But she has created conflict, which is good.

[jonathan.e]

You mean we agree that your anti-transsexual posts (including boasting about taunting transsexuals on DS) are bullying, spiteful and pointless? How unoriginal of us, we should come up with hilarious Bernard Manning-style material like you perhaps.

Oh dear, do try and get your facts straight. I made no such claims about posting on DS but I guess when you’re as blinkered as you appear to be it’s difficult to see straight. :lol:


Retraction please!

[budgenk]

Oh dear, do try and get your facts straight. I made no such claims about posting on DS but I guess when you’re as blinkered as you appear to be it’s difficult to see straight. :lol:


Retraction please!

Oh well maybe it wasn't you, apologies if I'm mistaken, I'll take a look now, it was someone with a similar line in cheap jibes though, easy mistake to make.

[budgenk]

Funny, I thought these threads were all about having some fun/comment about the contestants who have put themselves up for examination, not slagging other forum members when you’re not able to come up with anything else to say.


I have made my arguments quite clear, if my posts were limited to 'You suck' then you'd have a point, as it is I have made my points and backed them up, and it's only after persistent childish bigoted posts by yourself that I've bothered to answer you.

[HaloMan]

Jeez, talk about flogging a dead horse. You just won’t let this lie will you? It’s got nothing to do with gender and everything to do with personality. He/she has none, other than that of a selfish, attention seeking drama queen.

If it's nothing to do with gender, why the constant "Go-nads", "He/she", "man with tits on", "freak" comments? Surely if you don't like her down to her personality, you should state why and not take the blatent cheap shots like you have been doing?

You either cannot reasonably state why they dislike someones personality, you either have a very poor grasp of the English language or you are against her simply because she's a transexual. I feel it's the latter.

Always the last resort of the inarticulate poster who can’t argue their own POV to personalise their comment and insult another member as opposed to addressing the content of the original post.

Perhaps you are the inarticulate one whose argument always seems to refer back to someones looks or past? Perhaps some people are going down to your level - afterall, really, it's no different for saying that someone should not win because they're "ugly".

[jonathan.e]

I have made my arguments quite clear, if my posts were limited to 'You suck' then you'd have a point, as it is I have made my points and backed them up...

As long as you continue to insist that anyone who doesn’t like Nadia does so because they somehow find him/her attractive then you are not listening to what people are saying. It’s an issue of personality rather than sexuality as it is with all the contestants. To say otherwise is to reduce people here to the same level as those who’ll vote for Chicken Stew to win simply because he’s good-looking ignoring the fact he is inordinately dull.

Clear?

[budgenk]

Oh dear, do try and get your facts straight. I made no such claims about posting on DS but I guess when you’re as blinkered as you appear to be it’s difficult to see straight. :lol:


Retraction please!

Actually I do owe you an apology on that particular one, hands up, it was this post by Stewart Howie, coming in the middle of a run of a few your your similarly-themed posts, that confused me: http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4230353&postcount=77

[Squirrel God]

Isn't it funny how much the Forums reflect the Big Brother house. :p

[Richie]

Gosh this always gets so heated as we lurch towards the final doesn't it! :D

I have to say that as much as j'adore Nadia on the telly she would do my head in outside in the real world! but safe inside the telly she's just fabulous!
She kinda reminds me of Natasha Fatale from "The Rocky & Bullwinkle show" or maybe even Zsa Zsa Gabor dah-ling! :D

[kjmacphee]

As long as you continue to insist that anyone who doesn’t like Nadia does so because they somehow find him/her attractive then you are not listening to what people are saying. It’s an issue of personality rather than sexuality as it is with all the contestants. To say otherwise is to reduce people here to the same level as those who’ll vote for Chicken Stew to win simply because he’s good-looking ignoring the fact he is inordinately dull.

Clear?
If you cannot see that calling a transexual him/her in one sentence and refuting it has anything to do with sexuality in the next is hypocritical then there is simply no hope for you.

[webuser]

Maybe you should all start your own thread this rubbish has gone on for long enough everyone can have there own views on Nadia.

Back too the thread what is going to happen tonight??

[budgenk]

As long as you continue to insist that anyone who doesn’t like Nadia does so because they somehow find him/her attractive then you are not listening to what people are saying. It’s an issue of personality rather than sexuality as it is with all the contestants. To say otherwise is to reduce people here to the same level as those who’ll vote for Chicken Stew to win simply because he’s good-looking ignoring the fact he is inordinately dull.

Clear?

I absolutely have not said that anyone who dislikes Nadia is doing so based on sexuality, as you will see just a few posts back I commented on PAFC's anti-Nadia post on exactly the same topic. I can see why Nadia is extremely irritating to many, and in fact I'm surprised by my own amused reaction to her petulant antics, but going back through the BB threads to verify that other matter, the majority of your posts are anti-Nadia, and with maybe one or two exceptions it's all about the TS thing with you: 'looks like the bloke with tits will win', 'my meat and two veg are attached and not in a dogfood tin in Bavaria', 'if I put two conservatories on my bungalow it's still a bungalow' to paraphrase just a few. If it had just been one or two times it would have been one thing, but you just can't let it go. You clearly havent' listened to what I've said just a few posts back, where in fact I did say that some people who are anti-Nadia might be being unfairly lumped in with those who just have childish bigoted jibes to offer.

Clear?

[jonathan.e]

If it's nothing to do with gender, why the constant "Go-nads", "He/she", "man with tits on", "freak" comments? Surely if you don't like her down to her personality, you should state why and not take the blatent cheap shots like you have been doing?


If someone is going to present themselves as such a gross cartoon caricature of a woman then they are going to invite comment and if they strap on a pair of comedy tits then that comment will be humorous. Nadia has gone for a hideously exaggerated example of femininity therefore he/she has elicited an exaggerated response.

You either cannot reasonably state why they dislike someones personality, you either have a very poor grasp of the English language or you are against her simply because she's a transexual. I feel it's the latter.

I have stated why I dislike his/her personality but don’t let that stop you seizing on one aspect of my comments and making out that’s my entire argument.

Can 3 people share the same hymn sheet or will you need to photocopy it? :p

[webuser]

Shut Up All Off You!

[jonathan.e]

If you cannot see that calling a transexual him/her in one sentence and refuting it has anything to do with sexuality in the next is hypocritical then there is simply no hope for you.


Legally he is still a man. Cosmetically he is a woman ergo him/her, he/she.

[Richie]

What's with the use of 'Clear?' at the end of posts?! Has 5 years of Big Brother taught you guys nothing?! It's 'comprende'!

Comprende? :D

[budgenk]

Can 3 people share the same hymn sheet or will you need to photocopy it? :p

That hymn-sheet thing is such a cheap trick, suggesting that anyone who disagrees with you is following some ancient creaking rote, rather than coming to the independent conclusion that your posts are unneccessarily harsh, and clearly based on sexuality rather than personality.

[Andrew70]

Isn't it funny how much the Forums reflect the Big Brother house. :p
Andrew70 runs up to Squirrel God and does the Marco dance in his face. :D

A.

[webuser]

Close this thread mods they have no desire to shut up!

[jonathan.e]

What's with the use of 'Clear?' at the end of posts?! Has 5 years of Big Brother taught you guys nothing?! It's 'comprende'!

Comprende? :D



:lol:

Isn’t Timbo in Australia now? Having to leave the country to escape the shame! :D

[cjanderson]

Okay


so possible eviction tonight (10pm i assume rather than normal show)

how will they do it??

[webuser]

Maybe diary room hostage?

[redmosquito]

Take one of them into the diary room maybe. And just boot them that way, that's what i'd do.

The housemates would all be wondering what had happend to them.

[HaloMan]

I have stated why I dislike his/her personality but don’t let that stop you seizing on one aspect of my comments and making out that’s my entire argument.

It has been your entire argument in this thread, and frankly it's tiresome to read the same stupid putdowns again and again. Come up with some new material.

Lets look at your recent posts then, and let me analyse your statements on Nadia:
Can’t believe the HM’s need telling anyway. You’d have to be both blind and stupid to not suss it on first glance. Do you think he just went in and asked for the most ridiculous sized tits they had in stock or would they have had to order them in specially?

Is blatently an excercise in insulting Nadia's personality rather than looks.

Typical woman. Unable or unwilling to acknowledge the truth. Maybe the reason Nadia has so many female fans is that they recognise all his/her worst behaviour in themselves.

Yay, they recognise their worst behavior in her. Oh wait, you haven't stated what that oh-so terrible behavior actually is. Such a great argument!

Doesn’t say much for womankind if the screeching, petulant, vain banshee has successfully passed for female. It‘s clear that’s not the case though with the amateurish denials from everyone about what they heard shouted over the wall.

I wonder if people would be so keen to praise if it was a gay man pretending to be straight instead of a transsexual concealing the truth?

If Nadia wins it’s a pity vote and nothing else. I haven’t seen anything other than the unreasonable behaviour of a manic queen crossed with the emotional maturity of a five year old whose needs and wants are all it sees.

Okay, so you've called her screetching, petulant and vain. Okay, that's part of a logical argument, but not a whole one. Then back to the oh-so-predictable "SHE'S A MAN!!!!" argument.

Check out the original thread to see who sussed Nadia at first sight. You’d have to be very confused or unbelievably naïve to have ever thought he was a woman.

Yes, clearly another deep insight into her personality.

Depressing isn’t it? I’m clinging onto the hope that it might just be a case of C4 and the rest saying it often enough to try and make it happen as Go-nads would probably generate the most coverage for the programme.

Can’t see a single reason why anyone would vote for Nadia. Horrible, horrible person.

Yet another "Go-nads" putdown, and she's a horrible person without actually stating why.

I could go on, but frankly it's the same boring old predictable crap.

[Bapapapa]

Isn't it funny how much the Forums reflect the Big Brother house. :pjonathon.e to win..

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:bow: :bow: :bow:

[Herbal]

So deff an eviction tonight?

[Richie]

:lol:

Isn’t Timbo in Australia now? Having to leave the country to escape the shame! :D

Bizarrely I've never had any desire to follow his existence post-house, so I can't tell you I'm afraid! :D

About tonight's show:
It's in 2 parts right? 9 - 9.30pm then 10.30 - 11.05pm
It's not going to be very exciting if they don't realise someone is missing 'on cue' really!

[budgenk]

So deff an eviction tonight?

Yep, they MUST be expecting it though, so I can't see how a Diary Room hostage would provide much of a twist tbh. I wonder if there will be 2 evictions as there's a 9pm show, and a 10.30pm show?

[HaloMan]

Okay


so possible eviction tonight (10pm i assume rather than normal show)

how will they do it??

I presume they'll do what they did on last nights show - tell them to pack their suitcase sometime during the day. Then tell them to be on the Sofa's at 9:30pm where they will hear the result and they'll leave at the start of the 10:30pm show.

[Bapapapa]

:lol:

Isn’t Timbo in Australia now? Having to leave the country to escape the shame! :DThought it was S. Africa..

:shrug:

[Richie]

Wherever it is, it's not far enough!

[Yorki]

Some people........ :thinking: :| :lol:

Vote for Nadia (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41590&item=6313091211&rd=1)

[cjanderson]

Bizarrely I've never had any desire to follow his existence post-house, so I can't tell you I'm afraid! :D

About tonight's show:
It's in 2 parts right? 9 - 9.30pm then 10.30 - 11.05pm
It's not going to be very exciting if they don't realise someone is missing 'on cue' really!

Dam, i bet tivo misses it all. :cry:

[budgenk]

Dam, i bet tivo misses it all. :cry:

Don't worry, just checked my epg and it all seems to be there :)

[Richie]

:lol: oops! on bblb Kermit asked Nadia's mates what he'd won in the past! :eek:

[Hamburger3]

That's their right surely.

So its their right to be a facist just because someone is a transexual ?

Do people also have a right to call victor a ****** ?

Its just as bad in my book as its just being abusive to a minority in a hateful
way.

[Fat Bloke]

Marco's comments about the fight on Day 20 seem to suggest, as most thought, that Emma was seen by the Police to be the main cause.

The producers desperately wanted to put Emma back into the show and were trying to arrange a psychologist to mediate between Victor and Emma so she could return but ultimately the police insisted upon her removal. Remember he had already stated that there were punches thrown that night.

[Squirrel God]

Click for transcript of Michelle's web chat (http://www.channel4.com/community/showcards/B/Big_Brother_5_-_Michelle.html)

I know everyone thinks I'm jealous but I'm not at all. [...] Everything I said was in complete jest [...] It was edited together to make me look so much more jealous than I even joked about. [...] I'm really not that possessive over him, it was just the way the show portrayed me. I know that it can't show me doing something I didn't do but they certainly edited it together to make me look bad.

Yeah, yeah, wotEVVA! :cuckoo: :lol:

[Bapapapa]

Tatae : What was your best moment in the house?

Michelle : I LOVED the moon party that we got for completing the task - a themed Glastonbury task. We got lots of cider and lots of music and we had a really great time in the house - it was a good night.

Chicken Chicken : Stuart wasn't too good then.:lol:

[budgenk]

:lol:

[fattyboombatty]

Marco's comments about the fight on Day 20 seem to suggest, as most thought, that Emma was seen by the Police to be the main cause.

Remember he had already stated that there were punches thrown that night.

where did you get that quote from?

[budgenk]

where did you get that quote from?

digitalspy bb forums

[morleyian]

Local pickup only (no postage)

What a cheap beatch! :razz:
And why exactly would anyone want her manky suitcase?! :cuckoo: In 3 months time we'll all be going Emma who's what?!

£10m :D A fair amount of fees on that price :nuts:

[fattyboombatty]

was it from a poster or an official quote?

[Squirrel God]

was it from a poster or an official quote?
Scroll back through the thread and you will find a link to a thread at the DS forums which Marco posted on a few times.

[NicolaUK]

It has been your entire argument in this thread, and frankly it's tiresome to read the same stupid putdowns again and again.

:thumbs: Add to that attacking anyone that dares disagree with him, especially if they happen to be female :doh:

[kez]

Jason To Win!!!!!!!!!

what he said!

[kez]

Isn't it funny how much the Forums reflect the Big Brother house. :p

i was just about to say, this thread is more like big brother than big brother is.

[Richie]

£10m :D A fair amount of fees on that price :nuts:
:lol: GENIUS! :D
First time I looked it was just over £100, then Scott Mills mentions it on Radio1 and boing!!!!111111
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11236&item=2261190104&rd=1 :clap:

[Fat Bloke]

So come on, who's going to have a guess at the HM that Jason dislikes the most :)

Not that anyone really needed confirmation but it was so obvious in tonights highlights.

[fattyboombatty]

when the nominations were shown just now, did it show anyone nominating sandy ...er, i mean jason? it showed shell getting nominated twice.

[budgenk]

i think it was nadia twice, shell twice and dan once

[Squirrel God]

dan once
You left a 'p' out in the last word.

[bikerqueen]

so have i missed an eviction?

[Squirrel God]

so have i missed an eviction?
10.30 :thumbs:

[thescrounger]

No idea how they've kept that crowd quiet. They must have machine guns trained on them.

[andrewcalderuk]

You left a 'p' out in the last word.
:lol: Thank god you didn't say 'n'!

[bikerqueen]

darn it, have to tape something on bbc4 for me dad and cant video and watch different channels. will have to watch it tomorrow morning. and stay here to be informed!

[mullethead]

Not sure if someone else has had this thought, but here's my idea for tonights eviction:

All housemates are called to the sofas, the evictee is called to the diary room and escorted out of the house via the bed-sit corridor.

The rest of the housemates are left sitting on the sofas not knowing what has happened, wondering when they will be back.

[Yorki]

Aparantly the eviction is happening right now, so what we'll see at 10.30 is pre-recorded. :suspect:

[Squirrel God]

Thanks for forcing us to know whether we wanted to or not :mad:

[cjanderson]

Aparantly the eviction is happening right now, so what we'll see at 10.30 is pre-recorded. :suspect:

And it's Stu ....................... that's gone.

UM!!!!!!! SPOILERS!"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Have got in and tivo was not aware of new changes so was recording Will and Grace, so what happened at 9pm show? was there one?

[Yorki]

I've edited to stop Squirrel God having a tantrum ;)

[Kronik]

Why are they letting them scream now?

[AngryFlower]

Cynical. :oh-hum:

[dunkrag]

stuart is a plank. :|

[Big A]

thats a bit of a shock

[HaloMan]

Why are they letting them scream now?

Presumably as there is music in the house to disguise the crowds.

[morleyian]

Not happy with it not being live :oh-hum:

[mullethead]

Is it just me or does anyone else think it's a bit strange that he's the one that got the lowest votes, given the reaction he got from the crowd :suspect:

Far be it from me to suggest that they might of fiddled it :nono:

[Brad123]

Close your eyes and you could swear youve popped in a Bill and Ted DVD.

I keep bursting out into a rapturous chorus of "mmmmmmmm bop"

[Bish]

I'm surprised it was him, I thought Shell might have gone.

Stu was a bit excited wasn't he :nuts:

[AndyH]

So will Michelle have gone home after BBLB, or will she be hanging around...

[Willow]

I just wanna know if the Bunny Boiler has shown up. Did you see the way he was happily throwing himself at the girlys? He's gonna be in trouble when she gets hold of him :lol:

[Vex]

Thanks for forcing us to know whether we wanted to or not :mad:

You shouldn't be in a big brother thread then should you???
:?:

[Yorki]

He is looking kinda hansome though :n0rty:

[Brad123]

I'm surprised it was him, I thought Shell might have gone.

Stu was a bit excited wasn't he :nuts:


I think thats 8 weeks of excitement and expression he's letting go of due to bunny boilers stifling hold on him.

[cjanderson]

He is looking kinda hansome though :n0rty:

i am embarrsed to admit.

but ohhhhh yes.

you wouldn;t want to talk to him the next day, but he is a sweetie :luv:

[Willow]

Dan's face was rather interesting when they all came to the conclusion that Stu had won the whole thing. Considering how much he doesn't want to win, that is :D

[robzinski]

He's not going to speak Michelle ever again.

[fadeaway53]

He's not going to speak Michelle ever again.

Not the impression I'm getting....

Poor sod.

[unrealnils]

I just wanna know if the Bunny Boiler has shown up. Did you see the way he was happily throwing himself at the girlys? He's gonna be in trouble when she gets hold of him :lol:


yeah i saw that, hes a dead man :D

[Ono]

***Yawn***

Has he finished his interview yet?

[DM]

Haven't read the spoilers but it's obvious who it is. :lol: We haven't used spoilers at all this year have we? ;)

[Squirrel God]

You shouldn't be in a big brother thread then should you???
:?:
Why not?

Television and DVD Forum

Discuss your favourite TV shows and their DVD releases. Please make use of the 'spoiler' tags if you are discussing sensitive plot points - especially if the show is yet to air on terrestrial TV.

It's not like it was common knowledge or happened the previous day or anything like that.

[Richie]

Awwwwww, he was actually really sweet. I feel really guilty now!!!!!! :D
I half expected the psycho violins as Michelle walked in! :lol:
and as for "you've been waiting to see her...", you just know it's his Mummy that Stew has been missing!!!!!

Now, just HOW dumb are the rest of them?!
I use Shell's deductive powers as proof positive that I was right about the decline in education standards in this country! :D
It is now quite obvious that you can indeed get a First and be really, really stupid!
I rest my case :)

[DM]

The thread will just turn into a mess of spoiler tags, it's unworkable.

[Squirrel God]

The thread will just turn into a mess of spoiler tags, it's unworkable.
I agree, but in this particular instance, it hadn't aired on TV at all at the time of posting.

Anyway, let's move on shall we. I'm over it now :D

[dtsrules]

Can't believe Stu only got 7% of the vote, i would have thought shell would have gone.

It matters not as Nadless will be the winner, unfortunately.

[DM]

ah, internet feed! I'm just sat at work like a sad :dork: getting my updates from here! :)

Point noted, apology given, bye stu!

[Fat Bloke]

I turned it off after his third Whooooaaa! on stage straight after coming out of the house :|

[Mr Jolly]

Felt a bit sorry for him. He seemed really freaked out by it all, and I suppose not knowing what's been going on with the bint probably made him more paranoid.

[budgenk]

I think he's quite a likeable guy really, he's only young, and he's aware that he's a lucky guy: nice family, good looking, healthy, well-adjusted, getting on with his education. No wonder everyone hates him :p

[Ono]

Here's a good trick to play:

Friday night - do the usual stuff and get the HMs evicted down to the last one.


Then leave the last one in the house over the weekend without saying anything. :thumbs:

[Squirrel God]

I don't think people really hate him do they? I think it's just that they find him to be a bit of a knob who acts like a 6 year old.

I did like it when they asked him to leave the house right away and he said "Can I go to the toilet first?" :lol:

[Squirrel God]

Here's a good trick to play:

Friday night - do the usual stuff and get the HMs evicted down to the last one.


Then leave the last one in the house over the weekend without saying anything. :thumbs:
:lol:

Better still, pack everything up and just go. Leave him/her to eventually break their way out after a few weeks :lol:

[morleyian]

Were the voting figures released? Can only see Stu's on DSBB

[budgenk]

Were the voting figures released? Can only see Stu's on DSBB

I highly doubt it, if Endemol reveal that Nadia's got 70% of the vote or something nobody's gonna bother voting again

[camaj]

Bit of a shocker that. Stu only got 7%. I know he was a boring sod but I thought he'd be quiet popular. Makes me think Jason's got a real chance now

Good to hear Stu say he wants Jason to win rather than go with the crowd who were booing him. I guess he has some mind of his own.

Jason and Dan have been pacing up and down the garden, just like Dan was moaning about for the last week with Jason and Stu. I guess he was probably Jelous of Stu

[bob_bob]

After tonights show Im gonna vote for Shell - hopefully she can get her bf a makeover.

[Bapapapa]

Bit of a shocker that. Stu only got 7%. I know he was a boring sod but I thought he'd be quiet popular. Makes me think Jason's got a real chance nowIndeed..

Go Jay!!

:clap: :clap:

[DM]

After tonights show Im gonna vote for Shell - hopefully she can get her bf a makeover.

Is that all you win for BB, a makeover?

my predictions..

Shell first out
Dan second out
Jason runner up
Nadia winner

[Richie]

Yeah Dave, I hope that's how it goes too :)

Baps - booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!1111111 :p

[bob_bob]

Is that all you win for BB, a makeover?

my predictions..

Shell first out
Dan second out
Jason runner up
Nadia winner

yep.. err to both bits.

[Whizzer]

Well well, what do you know. A surprise eviction tonight. The tabloids predicted Shell would be out tonight and it actually didn't happen for a change!

Here's hoping, there'll be a surprise winner on Friday too. Why Nadia is favourite I still can't understand.

Looking forward to buying the DVD of this years series too. Unlike last years series, as there was so much going on in this years, perhaps they'll release a 2-disc DVD edition instead of the usual 1 disc.

[Whizzer]

Well well, what do you know. A surprise eviction tonight. The tabloids predicted Shell would be out tonight and it actually didn't happen for a change!

Here's hoping, there'll be a surprise winner on Friday too. Why Nadia is favourite I still can't understand.

Looking forward to buying the DVD of this years series too. Unlike last years series, as there was so much going on in this years, perhaps they'll release a 2-disc DVD edition instead of the usual 1 disc.

[joconnor]

Just read this whole thread and can I say:


jonathan.e :bow: :bow: :bow:

[fatherofnight]

AFAIK, you’re wrong. There was the famous case of Tula, a Bond girl in one of the Roger Moore movies, who went as far as the European Court of Human rights but could not get legal recognition as anything other than his/her birth sex - a man.

howay man, that tula at least looked like a woman, with the best will in the world nadia does not. i'm sorry but i think she cuts a pathetic/tragic figure and thats why the public are voting for her, we love an underdog and god help her after the sunday tabloids have finished with her, she might get away with a honeymoon period, but after that she will probably curse the day she auditioned for big bro. unless of course she has no skeletons locked away, but who among us could claim that.
on a seperate point does anybody else think nadia's acceptance by the public has anything to do with the girl on corrie who plays hayley the transexual. she has been accepted into the community and into viewers consciousness, with only loudmouth les battersby and smarmy business man mike baldwin as the only dissenting voices. i think i am correct in saying hayley was the first transexual character regularly on our tv's, and by highlighting that characters struggles and hardships our sympathy has been won over and we are more willing to accept the concept of a man wanting/needing to be a woman. just a thought.

[thescrounger]

That was a very entertaining eviction. :D

[Squirrel God]

howay man, that tula at least looked like a woman, with the best will in the world nadia does not.
I disagree. While she's not attractive (at least not to me anyway), she looks very much like a fair number of Mediterranean women, who can have quite masculine features. She reminds me a lot of some of my friends' mothers.

[thescrounger]

She reminds me a lot of some of my friends' mothers.

Your friends all have masculine looking mothers do they? :suspect:

No hips, mans beer gut, broad shoulders etc. :help:

[fatherofnight]

I disagree. While she's not attractive (at least not to me anyway), she looks very much like a fair number of Mediterranean women, who can have quite masculine features. She reminds me a lot of some of my friends' mothers.

jeez, remind me not to visit where your friends live on a dark night. its not just her facial features its the overall package, she has a set of shoulders arnie would be proud of, it just screams not female. by it i mean the package not nadia herself. if she wants to be a woman fair enough, whilst its not for me i might add, you have to respect somebody for having the inner strength to go through that ordeal. but please dont tell me she looks like a woman, she actually looks like a man pretending to be a woman and thats why she is non threatening and has been able to convince the public to vote for her. imo of course.
btw jay to win because, he is the only one being truely himself. :thumbs:

[dannywonderful]

jay to win because, he is the only one being truely himself. :thumbs:

Unless you know Jay personally, then I'd like to know how you could possibly know this ... ?

[thescrounger]

Agreed. I'm not anti-tranny or anything, but don't tell me Nadia looks like a real woman. Unfortunately for her she has too many male physical attributes. She might have better luck if she slimmed down a bit.

She looks like Benny Hill in drag.

[fatherofnight]

Unless you know Jay personally, then I'd like to know how you could possibly know this ... ?

yeah you got it, i do know him. that is why i have stayed out of this thread for so long, i didnt want to get drawn into a war of words over he is this and she is that. its all pointless in the end. for all i know the other 3 that are left could really be truly themselves, i dont know them but i know jay. i will leave it at that because people will just accuse me of being a defender of a friend, and jay is big enough and man enough to defend himself. re an earlier post about fists being used, i'll tell you now jay did not hit any of the females in there. i have been with him in more taxing situations than that and know he would never hit a female and if you knew his background you would know why.
oooopppss there i go defending him. sorry.

[Squirrel God]

There are some really ugly, mutated, filthy, moose-like women out there who are naturally female and who look far less like a woman than Nadia. I'm sure you've all seen some at some points in your lives.

Yes, the lack of hips and the beer gut is a dead giveaway (I don't agree about the broad shoulders, seen some women that have a similar build in that department), but then so is the fake fanny if you wanna rip her knickers off and inspect her!

You can't see the hips in obese women and when they're that fat, their gut hangs out just like a fella's does. They're still women though aren't they?

You're both trying to compare Nadia to your 'ideal' of what a woman should look like. Women often exhibit some masculine features and characteristics, just like men often exhibit some feminine features and characteristics.

It's very easy to talk in retrospect when we know the truth, but I'd be willing to bet money that only a handful of people would be screaming "TRANNY" immediately if they bumped into Nadia, fully clothed, in a real-life situation, and were not told that they were going to be meeting a transsexual that evening.

[dannywonderful]

Is Jay also a forum member?

[fatherofnight]

a handful of people would be screaming "TRANNY" immediately if they bumped into Nadia,

sorry mate but i wouldnt be screaming tranny at her if i bumped into her, i'm a little bit more sensitive than that. ;)

[Squirrel God]

sorry mate but i wouldnt be screaming tranny at her if i bumped into her, i'm a little bit more sensitive than that. ;)
You wouldn't have to be screaming it out loud ;)

[thescrounger]

Me too. But like some of the housemates early on, I'm the sort of person that can tell if someone is a tranny. So I can't be fooled.

[fatherofnight]

You wouldn't have to be screaming it out loud ;)

hey, i'm a pretty big dude but i think she could take me. in a fight i might add. :D

[DM]

Me too. But like some of the housemates early on, I'm the sort of person that can tell if someone is a tranny. So I can't be fooled.

http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale/
http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale3/

Honest results please! :D

[fatherofnight]

14 out of 16 for me. i'm happy with that because the majority did look like females and we only get to see the heads. them ol' adams apples usually help.

[Listy]

13/16 for both tests.

[mullethead]

Is Jay also a forum member?

Yes (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/member.php?u=39) ;)

Did anyone else notice the way Stuart started to calm down after Davina revealed the Bunny Boiler had been selling their 'story' to all the tabloids the moment she got out the house.

She reminds me a bit of Sherry Palmer from the first season of 24, she'll be taking him to one side saying "But Stuart i'm doing this for our own good, the papers need to see us together - You're nothing without me!!!" :eek:

[kez]

Unless you know Jay personally, then I'd like to know how you could possibly know this ... ?

whatever.

jay to win, anyway!!

[kez]

http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale/
http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale3/

Honest results please! :D

8/16 for the first one, and 10/16 for the second :eek:

i'm never going out again ;)

EDIT: nice music :clap:

[snowball]

so did anyone see the early edition of The Star this morning? :lol:

[StuBruise]

so did anyone see the early edition of The Star this morning? :lol:

http://www.silverka.co.uk/images/daily_star_bb_cockup.jpg

:lol:

~~stu

[Andrew70]

Just read this whole thread and can I say:


jonathan.e :bow: :bow: :bow:
Why are you asking jonathan to bend over three times? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

A.

[PC_Bod]

Well I enjoyed last nights shows. Mostly. How they got the crowd to shut up is beyond me.

I like the way they evicted him too. Wasn't sure how they were going to play it tbh.
The reception he got from the crowd was amazing, and he played the part well.

The only thing that REALLY cheesed me off, was the Bunny Boiler. You can tell he's too kind and polite to say anything. He needs to strap on a pair and take his trousers back.

He hasnt been with his family for over TWO MONTHS, he has JUST said, not seeing them was the hardest thing, and then she walks in and doesn't leave him alone!

As the show was ending you could see his mum going to give him a hug, and the geordie slapper still wouldnt let go of him. FFS love he aint gonna run off like a naughty puppy, give him a break, let him be with his family!

I now want Nadia to win too, purely for the reason that she has been the most entertaining out of the 4 left.

[anguk]

Did anyone else notice the way Stuart started to calm down after Davina revealed the Bunny Boiler had been selling their 'story' to all the tabloids the moment she got out the house.

She reminds me a bit of Sherry Palmer from the first season of 24, she'll be taking him to one side saying "But Stuart i'm doing this for our own good, the papers need to see us together - You're nothing without me!!!" :eek:
I agree, as much as it pains me to say it I think Chicken Stu is genuinely fond of Michelle and would like to continue the relationship. BUT I think it all depends on her behaviour out of the house, I get the feeling Stu likes to keep his life private whereas Michelle doesn't.

[Andrew70]

BUT I think it all depends on her behaviour out of the house, I get the feeling Stu likes to keep his life private whereas Michelle doesn't.
I agree. I thought he was going to dissolve with embarrassment when Davina hinted that the country had heard everything that had gone on under the table.
It actually makes me wonder if something really did happen because up to now I wasn't convinced.

A.

[thescrounger]

http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale/
http://www2.b3ta.com/femaleorshemale3/

Honest results please! :D

The voice is usually a dead givaway. I haven't got time to take those again, but last time I recall I scored quite well !

[Andrew70]

After Stuart's eviction last night, I'm beginning to worry that Jason might actually have a chance of winning this.
There's nothing else for it, I'll have to vote for Nadia when I get home.
With a bit of luck, backing the apparent popular choice will stop that undeserving lump of mealy mouthed vanity from walking off with the prize.

A.

[thescrounger]

Ok, scored 15/16 first one
and 14/16 the second one.

[kez]

After Stuart's eviction last night, I'm beginning to worry that Jason might actually have a chance of winning this.
There's nothing else for it, I'll have to vote for Nadia when I get home.
With a bit of luck, backing the apparent popular choice will stop that undeserving lump of mealy mouthed vanity from walking off with the prize.

A.

i thought you wanted Nadia to win? :p

anyway, text 'jason' to 84444

[thescrounger]

Jason must win, the only contestant that has been true to himself and the other housemates.

An honest man.

[Andrew70]

i thought you wanted Nadia to win? :p

anyway, text 'jason' to 84444
Well, yes, if I were forced to express a preference I would have chosen Dan or Nadia but I'm indifferent enough not to have bothered voting for a winner.
However, had they still been allowing us to vote out a housemate I would definitely had made a call for Jason.

Seeing as the general vibe suggests Nadia is the favourite I figure a vote for her is as good as a vote against Mr Moisturiser.

A.

[Andrew70]

Jason must win, the only contestant that has been true to himself and the other housemates.

An honest man.
(muffled laughter)
If Victor was President Bush, Jason has to be Nixon.

A.

[mr.nick]

(muffled laughter)
If Victor was President Bush, Jason has to be Nixon.

A.

Following your logic, Nadia would have to be Screaming Lord Sutch :lol:

[Andrew70]

Following your logic, Nadia would have to be Screaming Lord Sutch :lol:
I agree - she'd love the outfits. :)

A.

[Napoleon]

I dont but you sound like a 10 year who has a crush on someone but tries to hide it by being rude to them.

Im comfortable with my sexuality, the tone of your posts suggest that you are not.


Such a cliched response to criticism of a gay person,etc.A:Homophobic B:Not comfortable with one's sexuality.Why can't people like you just accept that other perfectly reasonable well adjusted folks view such things in their own way.There is no inalienable right to absolute acceptance in every which way shape or form.Get over it.

[sigur]

Such a cliched response to criticism of a gay person,etc.A:Homophobic B:Not comfortable with one's sexuality.Why can't people like you just accept that other perfectly reasonable well adjusted folks view such things in their own way.There is no inalienable right to absolute acceptance in every which way shape or form.Get over it.

Who is gay, are you claiming Nadia is gay?

Well adjusted folks??Sorry but the responses on here claiming Nadia is a freak, He/she, etc show that these people are anything but well adjusted. They are showing a dislike for someone due to their sexuality.
:oh-hum:

[TheCookieMonster]

I decided to vote for Jason. I just really don't want Nadia to win. She's just annoyed me from day 1.

[Kronik]

Here's hoping, there'll be a surprise winner on Friday too. Why Nadia is favourite I still can't understand.



According to people on DS, only women and gay men want Nadia to win. That evidence seemed mostly true on that forum. So is there any straight blokes on here that want Nadia to win?

[thescrounger]

It's probably more accurate to say that gay blokes and woman like a charity case when they see one.

It's a vote of sympathy.

[Arch Stanton]

But only women and gay men vote...

[Kronik]

But only women and gay men vote...

I'm sure the straight blokes in this thread that have voted will be pleased to hear that. :lol:

[john316]

I'm beginning to worry that Jason might actually have a chance of winning this

:clap:

[Arch Stanton]

I'm sure the straight blokes in this thread that have voted will be pleased to hear that. :lol:


Everyone has a gay side.


Me i just get Mrs Stanton to vote. :)

[thescrounger]

But only women and gay men vote...

Amusing comment, but not true. There's plenty of teenagers and young people that vote. They are the largest statistic.

[dannywonderful]

So is there any straight blokes on here that want Nadia to win?

Yep! :wave:

I'm not so bothered that I'd actually pick up the phone and vote though.

[Squirrel God]

According to people on DS, only women and gay men want Nadia to win. That evidence seemed mostly true on that forum. So is there any straight blokes on here that want Nadia to win?
Me straight, me want Nadia to win :thumbs:

[Richie]

It's probably more accurate to say that gay blokes and woman like a charity case when they see one.

It's a vote of sympathy.

I'm not sure you worded that in a sufficiently patronising manner! :p

[Brad123]

Had lo laugh at shell when they was showing the clips of old nominations, when people nominated shell instead of getting annoyed and throwing chairs about or summat she just agreed with all the reasons the people nominating gave her. Geez woman get a backbone. "yes your right" " i agree with you i am like that, yes"

silly hippyfide dizzy blonde nodding dog agreeing lemon sucking wench.

[Xeon007]

silly hippyfide dizzy blonde nodding dog agreeing lemon sucking wench.

Yeah but she's easy on the eye isn't she? :D

[snowball]

Had lo laugh at shell when they was showing the clips of old nominations, when people nominated shell instead of getting annoyed and throwing chairs about or summat she just agreed with all the reasons the people nominating gave her. Geez woman get a backbone. "yes your right" " i agree with you i am like that, yes"

silly hippyfide dizzy blonde nodding dog agreeing lemon sucking wench.

Jason was right in the diary room the other day. Nobody in BB every actually SAYS what they are really thinking for fear of losing public votes.

Dan 'the man who doesnt really want to win, but at the same time whinges whenever theyve lost prize money on the weekly task' is a big prime example. Wants to appear modest so he can eventually win it.

I wish it was Victor instead of Jay in the final wk but if Jay wins I'll be happy.

[jolt]

Jay to win!!!!!!!!

There are rumours there's only 7% in it between Nadia and Jason.

[Squirrel God]

There are rumours there's only 7% in it between Nadia and Jason.
In the same way that there's only 1% in it between apes and humans? :lol:

[andrewcalderuk]

Jay to win!!!!!!!!

There are rumours there's only 7% in it between Nadia and Jason.
Bloody hell. Like a few other posters I may have to cast a vote for the first time ever. :help:



(Not for Nadia)

[thescrounger]

Blimey, 7%? Might have to phone in some more votes for Jay later. :D

[Stu1210]

oh yeah, like Jason needs another ego trip!! Don't vote for that ponce!!

i want Nadia to win, just think what is going through her head at this moment..

i mean she will be leaving the house to face the wrath of the british public not knowing what response she will get. Man that must take some balls! (Punn intended)

edit: oh yeah and i'm straight :wave:

[Bapapapa]

Nadia is now 50/1 ON!!

Please tell me it's because of the amount of pink pounds that have been placed on her rather than the 'true' odds.. :oh-hum:

Jay's 16/1 - might have a fiver on it.. :nuts:

[kez]

i want Nadia to win, just think what is going through her head at this moment..

i mean she will be leaving the house to face the wrath of the british public not knowing what response she will get.

isn't that true for all of them? :cuckoo:

it's certainly no reason for her to win :?:

text 'Jason' to 84444 :clap:

Interestingly, his odds have been cut from 50/1 to 9/1, whereas Nadia's have gone from 1/50 to 1/20

EDIT: Baps, where did you get odds of 16/1?

[Bapapapa]

EDIT: Baps, where did you get odds of 16/1?

Ladbrokes.. (http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_sports?action=go_type&category=SPECIALS&class_id=110000032&type_id=210002643)

And I've just placed my fiver.. :clap:

[abarthman]

It's probably more accurate to say that gay blokes and woman like a charity case when they see one.

It's a vote of sympathy.I agree. Nadia has no redeeming features whatsoever. I don't have any issue with his sex change, but what exactly has he done to endear himself to the public? :?:

Maybe I just can't be bothered with drama queens who have nausiating voices and laughs? :?:

Jason may be a bit moody sometimes, but, other than Victor, he is the only housemate whose comments have made me laugh. :)



I'd vote for Jason, but I don't want to be accused of being a woman or gay! ;)

[kez]

EDIT: Baps, where did you get odds of 16/1?

Ladbrokes.. (http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_sports?action=go_type&category=SPECIALS&class_id=110000032&type_id=210002643)

And I've just placed my fiver.. :clap:

yeah. found it, and stuck £20 on :nuts:

shame i didn't do it at the weekend when i was going to. 50/1 :doh:

[morleyian]

Interestingly, his odds have been cut from 50/1 to 9/1, whereas Nadia's have gone from 1/50 to 1/20



I highly doubt Jason's odds were 50/1 last weekend :wave:

[cjanderson]

I agree. Nadia has no redeeming features whatsoever. I don't have any issue with his sex change, but what exactly has he done to endear himself to the public? :?:

[/SIZE]

You really don;t see it do you? :oh-hum:

Course they will say its close., they want you to ring and vote. Its probably not.

7% for stu seems about okay, if it was all equal he would get 20%, and if nadia has 50%, then its only 12.5% for other 4 anyway.

[Richie]

Please tell me it's because of the amount of pink pounds that have been placed on her rather than the 'true' odds.. :oh-hum:

Sorry but just WTF is that supposed to mean? :mad:

[Bapapapa]

:lol:

Calm down Richie, ffs.. you'll burst something..

I'm merely musing that Nadia's weeny odds is maybe down to the large 'gay' following that think she's going to win and putting their money where their proverbial mouth is.

Of course, me being all manly and hetero I've backed Jason with five of my blue pounds.

No offence intended - now untwist your knickers.

[abarthman]

You really don;t see it do you? :oh-hum:Erm, obviously not. :?:

Nadia is a bloke. You can dress a pig up and put lipstick on it, but it's still a pig.

...pink pounds ... :lol:

[Kronik]

Of course, me being all manly and hetero I've backed Jason with five of my blue pounds.



:lol: :lol:

[Richie]

Of course a real man wouldn't back Jason on principal, seeing as he gives all of mankind a bad name. :p

ps. I'm going commando! :D