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Robby
07-11-2001, 10:17
So the next installment is on Fri 9th at the dvd.starwars.com site. But what i want to know is, is it likely to be streaming?. If it is then it's no good to me on my piddling 56k modem.:mad:
I have quicktime 5 but i have no joy whatsoever when it comes to viewing streaming trailers particularly the ones at apple.com (http://www.apple.com). Oh for a life of broadband:rolleyes:

nigel_williams
07-11-2001, 10:30
Just get BT Openworld broadband..... and you'll wish you kept your modem!!

Streaming video is really bad at the moment, everyone is complaining and BT is doing nothing as usual. I haven't been able to connect to the starwars.com site at all. DNS lookup failures and packet loss are an everyday occurance.

jefflynne
07-11-2001, 11:37
robby...

Right click on this link (http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/ep2_breathing_m320.mov) and you'll be able to save it to your hard drive.

Yeah, it's 3.6MB, but even that isn't too long on a 56K dialup...

Robby
07-11-2001, 11:44
Jefflynne

Thanks but i already have the first one that was out a couple of days ago, i managed to download that one at Dark Horizons, my concern was for this new one out on Friday at the dvd accessible only website. I think Lucasfilm are doing a deal or something with Apple.com and as far as i can tell they only operate streaming video's which are pretty useless to me. Thanks anyway.:D

Ben Martin
07-11-2001, 20:27
robby,

if it's like both the "Choices" video already at dvd.starwars.com, and the "Breathing" teaser trailer, then it definitely won't be streaming. in fact, i think the only streaming quicktime movies the official site ever posted were the two different size versions of the 'Duel of the Fates' music video. everything else has been able to be saved to the hard disk.

all you need to do is be patient mate. get the disc in your machine, go to the site with the interactual player, click on the link for the preview and wait - a long time unfortunately, but you'll get there in the end. even if it tries to start playing this isn't the same as streaming. all it is doing is downloading the information same as normal. just wait and in the end you'll have the option to save the movie to your hard disk.

Robby
08-11-2001, 08:36
Excellent, Thanks for that Ben. I didn't know that, i just assumed it was going to be a streaming video (as it did look like that) and left it. I'll be sure to check it out tomorrow.

Cheers:clap:

peter finnegan
09-11-2001, 01:35
Hi at least you are lucky enough to have a dvd rom player so you can enter the site to see the trailer. I have bought the Phantom Menace dvd and paid good money for it as a Star wars fan. It is disappointing that you have to have a dvd rom for these extras. Often now when you buy a pc out of a shop they give you a choice of taking a dvd or a cd re writer. My brother says always take the re writer dvd roms are a waste of time. He says that they are not as good as normal dvd players.
I have a normal dvd so there is no need for a pc one too. Anyway if i bought a dvd rom id being watching movies on a small 15" screen with crappy sounding speakers. That kind of defeats the whole purpose of dvd. Watching movies on big screens with incredible sound. I fans have paid the money for the Phantom Menace why should we have to wait till the 16th to get the trailer.

Jimmyboy
09-11-2001, 01:55
Ben Martin - Any chance of you nabbin the trailer and turning into an mpg like before ?.

feverpitch96
09-11-2001, 06:14
Originally posted by jefflynne
robby...

Right click on this link (http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/ep2_breathing_m320.mov) and you'll be able to save it to your hard drive.

Yeah, it's 3.6MB, but even that isn't too long on a 56K dialup...

And there was me thinking I could use the above link to watch the trailer without owning the Phantom Menace disc, but it seems not. I get a message saying I don't have permission to access the page.
:(

peter finnegan
09-11-2001, 09:33
Hi i thought some of you may like to know that i got info from the board at starwars.com that you can also save the large movie to your har drive. If you right click on the 640 movie and save to your pc. You can watch this from your drive even if you only have quickime 5 and not the pro version.
I have did this and it works. The picture looks great except it seems a little blocky every time each scene fades. Also The movie seems jerky on my player of quicktime 5. Some time the movie jumps along a whole seen for example the scene with Watta is missing as the player jumped past that one. Has anyone else ever has problems with this.

jefflynne
09-11-2001, 09:39
feverpitch96....

I've just tried this from work and it downloaded fine, so you definitely won't need the DVD to access it.

Robby
09-11-2001, 09:53
There's not been much action on the dvd.starwars.com website. I thought they may have put the new trailer up as it is the 9th today. i guess we'll have to wait until the USA wake up.:( :rolleyes:

feverpitch96
09-11-2001, 10:09
Originally posted by jefflynne
feverpitch96....

I've just tried this from work and it downloaded fine, so you definitely won't need the DVD to access it.

Well it's still not letting me in....

:( :( :( :( :confused:

arkham
09-11-2001, 10:12
i cant wait that long, my eye is already starting to twitch:nuts: :brickwall

Roswell
09-11-2001, 11:01
Is there anywhere on the net where you can get the new trailer without having the DVD. Don't have a drive on my work PC?!

arkham
09-11-2001, 11:14
Im sure there will be Eg. Morpheus or WINMX

beobrand
09-11-2001, 11:19
Any body who doesn't have a DVD-ROM drive and wants to watch the first "Choices" Teaser try pasting this:

edited

After the http://

It is so long it causes problems, but if you copy and paste it in two goes (i.e. half each time) and make wure there are no spaces, it does work. Honest! :D


That should let you watch it.

If anyone wants to "upgrade" to QT pro so that you can save etc. try edit


I think we have enough hassle already. Please don't post links to software cracking


HTH

:cool:

FlangeMonkey
09-11-2001, 11:48
Beobrand mate, take out the space before the "1a1a1aaa" part in your link then it will work!

Also, not sure if the mods will be very friendly about the second part of your msg ;) Not entirely legal is it? :D

I already thought of that tho! ;)

Just d/ling the .mov now. Is it different to the "Breathing" trailer?

Shi'tty ISDN is too slow!

I want it now damnit!

Roswell
09-11-2001, 11:50
Beobrand,

Can't get it to work!

HELP!

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 11:59
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Ben Martin - Any chance of you nabbin the trailer and turning into an mpg like before?

not this time i'm afraid. posting a bootleg copy of a trailer recorded in a cinema is one thing, but posting an identical, mint copy straight off the official site is something else entirely.

furthermore, the fact that today's "preview" is intended solely for those who have purchased the dvd makes me even less likely to post it for several reasons:

(1) it has direct commercial value to Lucasfilm Ltd which i would be undermining and they would rightly come down on me like a ton of bricks.

(2) more importantly, those people who have bought the dvd have paid to see this preview and, while i sympathise with those people who have the disc but not the means to view the preview, i don't think anyone who doesn't own the disc should be getting it.

don't get me wrong, i'm a helpful guy (as you've seen), but this just comes down to basic fairness. even if you hate episode I, if you want to see this preview that much then go out and buy the dvd. to that end, i actually disagree with the posting of the link to the Choices video above. and if i were an admin on this forum i'd be concerned about receiving a 'cease & desist' from Lucasfilm.

speaking of which, i'm kind of familiar with those myself! :) in case you guys are interested, i received this on wednesday morning:
Webmaster,
It has come to our attention that your site has posted a copy of the Episode II teaser trailer here:
http://www.benandgrover.com/ep2teaser.asp (http://www.benandgrover.com/episode-ii.asp)

This teaser is Lucasfilm copyright and this posting is against the starwars.com terms of use (http://www.starwars.com/site/copyright.html). Please remove this video from your servers as soon as possible and let me know when you have done so. This will help to avoid a more formal communication in the future.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Internet Content Manager
Lucasfilm, Ltd
naturally, i had already removed it on monday night, but still .... :D

FlangeMonkey
09-11-2001, 12:15
Originally posted by Roswell
Beobrand,

Can't get it to work!

HELP!

Don't worry too much. Just follow my instructions if you want to get it to work, but bear in mind as Ben said, it ISN'T the trailer, just a series of still images with overlaid phrases.

I'm at work too and have brought my DVD in, but none of our machines have DVD drives :mad:

Have they uploaded it yet? Anyone seen it?

Gonna take a look on Morpheus and WinMX later on this avo after all the yanks get up!

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 12:17
so is the new trailer up then on the http://dvd.starwars.com site ?

thanx

CB

Sima
09-11-2001, 12:19
Will this work

edited - even though it didn't work :)

Hope it does :)

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 12:19
Originally posted by FlangeMonkey
Have they uploaded it yet? Anyone seen it?

no, not yet. just checked again. i imagine it will be around 3pm GMT the same as on monday.

Gonna take a look on Morpheus and WinMX later on this avo after all the yanks get up!

you'd be better off waiting a couple of extra hours until you get home from work, as you're going to have to sift through all the cr*p 'pretending' to be the new preview.

FlangeMonkey
09-11-2001, 12:20
Cheers Ben.
You're probably right! I'm itching to see it though.
Being a SW nut is a bit of a pain at times :cool:

Ta for the info.

Keep us posted.

Sima
09-11-2001, 12:22
Damnit it didnt...worth a try! :(

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 12:36
Originally posted by FlangeMonkey
Being a SW nut is a bit of a pain at times :cool:

indeed. but it's all worth it in the end! :)

for anyone who for any reason hasn't seen, or been able to download, monday's teaser yet - or even to help FlangeMonkey get into the mood and pass the time at work (!) - i screengrabbed brand new images from the '640' official version of the trailer, reduced them to 520 to hide most of the digital artefacts, and posted them here (http://www.benandgrover.com/breathing.asp).

Lucasfilm didn't ask me to remove my previous images so i'm 99.9% sure they're cool with this - especially as i've reduced them slightly in size.

i know most of you have seen them before but hopefully .... enjoy! :)

Robby
09-11-2001, 12:43
3PM !!!!! aah ffs, i've been sitting here like a twerp refreshing that page constantly to see if anything comes up.:mad: :mad: Damn time difference:D

As you can tell i've got NOTHING better to do with myself today, very sad.:D :D

beobrand
09-11-2001, 13:01
Grommit: Point taken about the second part of my message - but it was only a link...;)

The first thing though, I do not really see as being illegal in any way. Especially if (like me) you have the DVD and don't have a DVD ROM drive. It is only a pre-teaser...

Anyway, sorry. Didn't mean to cause problems, just wanted to help others see it...

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 13:02
Originally posted by robby
As you can tell i've got NOTHING better to do with myself today, very sad.:D :D

it could be worse mate. it's my birthday today and i am confined to the house with a severe dose of flu! :(

so i'm relying on that 'preview' to cheer me up! :)

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 13:08
Originally posted by beobrand
The first thing though, I do not really see as being illegal in any way. Especially if (like me) you have the DVD and don't have a DVD ROM drive. It is only a pre-teaser...

but due to the nature of how Lucasfilm are presenting it, it is a commercial product that has a price tag like any other - whether we like it or not. i may want to download it and provide it for you (particularly in your circumstances) but i can't because Lucasfilm would see it as theft, and not just of copyright this time.

furthermore, those links allow people who haven't bought the disc to see the preview and with Lucasfilm being as strict as they are with content on the dvd-only site, the forums could get in a whole lot of trouble. just not worth the risk.

Robby
09-11-2001, 13:10
Sorry to hear that Ben,
Many happy returns, i don't recall seeing your name on the birthday counter????

Happy Birthdayhttp://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/contrib/ruinkai/biggringift.gifhttp://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/otn/party/birthday.gif

and get well soon:(

FlangeMonkey
09-11-2001, 13:15
Originally posted by beobrand
Grommit: Point taken about the second part of my message - but it was only a link...;)

The first thing though, I do not really see as being illegal in any way. Especially if (like me) you have the DVD and don't have a DVD ROM drive. It is only a pre-teaser...

Anyway, sorry. Didn't mean to cause problems, just wanted to help others see it...

No problems mate. :nuts:

It was just a freindly warning coz I've been, shall we say, "chastised" by certain forum members and mods for posting links to crack sites, which is after all a breach of the T+Cs.
Personally, I couldn't give a monkey's if people use those sites! :cool:

I'm all for it actually, especially if it means more people can get to see the trailers! :D :clap: Making us buy QT5Pro is just taking the **** if you ask me, just so we can see the high quality version of the trailer for one of the most anticipated movies of next year :mad:

Anyway, no need for the link (I've already "upgraded" ;))

Ta for now.

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 13:15
Originally posted by robby
i don't recall seeing your name on the birthday counter????

i mustn't have filled it in on my profile, and have to admit that i didn't even know there was a birthday counter until yesterday!

Happy Birthday ... and get well soon

cheers mate. much appreciated! :)

Originally posted by FlangeMonkey
Making us buy QT5Pro is just taking the ***** if you ask me, just so we can see the high quality version of the trailer for one of the most anticipated movies of next year

that's as may be, but we have to remember that the QT5Pro 'scandal' and the matter of posting links to content from the dvd site are two totally separate issues that shouldn't be confused.

Tob
09-11-2001, 13:29
Getting excited now, will it definitely be at 3? Even though I have broadband I am expecting a long wait!:)

arkham
09-11-2001, 13:41
Only 15 minutes to go:clap: :clap: :clap:

the_great_smiddy
09-11-2001, 14:04
C'mon then!!
Thats 3 o'clock who's going to be first with a description??

I have the DVD at home with my 56k modem connection .:(

I need a description to see whether it is worth downloading.

Robby
09-11-2001, 14:05
Originally posted by arkham
Only 15 minutes to go:clap: :clap: :clap:


possibly Ben didn't say it was a definite, just possibly. And seeing as i make it gone 3 we are still gonna be in for a long wait.:(

I wouldn't mind but i don't class myself as a Star Wars nut although i sure feel like one sitting here pressing F5 till my finger bleeds.:rolleyes:

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 14:05
Originally posted by arkham
Only 15 minutes to go

stay calm people - that 3pm time was just a guesstimate on my part! i've just checked again and it still isn't there!

feeling guilty for getting your hopes up (!), i have tried to make amends by posting the Episode II Teaser Poster (http://www.benandgrover.com/episode-ii.asp). it came from elsewhere earlier today but was a photo taken at a skewed angle. i have fixed it up along with removing as many of the reflections as possible and restoring the text at the top.

Robby
09-11-2001, 14:07
Nice work Ben:D

I see that picture that was posted on Dark Horizons a while back was a very accurate piece of fan art.

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 14:10
I am accessing it right i type in my http://dvd.starwars.com and before i used to get the right page but now all thats coming up is this one. whats going on ?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/dvd/?message=E002

Bingo Bongo
09-11-2001, 14:20
Well your doing better than me.

I've got the DVD in the drive, tried to install but no joy.

I've also tried to go to dvd.starwars.com and get a "ITX Video Object Error" - Feature not supported

Any ideas?

Jimmyboy
09-11-2001, 14:21
I own the DVD but I don't own a DVD-ROM drive.

Great logic there Luc-ass. :rolleyes:

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 14:23
I've also tried to go to dvd.starwars.com and get a "ITX Video Object Error" - Feature not supported

yeah ive got on the site now load up the player so its running in the background you dont have to have the film playing just the program in the background. Then type in your dvd.starwars.com in you IE5 or what ever browser your using. The trailers not there yet though come on george ive got work at 5 get your arse in gear !!!

Robby
09-11-2001, 14:28
Originally posted by CBSKYWALKER
The trailers not there yet though come on george ive got work at 5 get your arse in gear !!!


LOL:clap: :D

You all realise when it's finally put up, it'll take 3 hours for everyone to download it (by which time i'll be booted at least twice) and the trailer will be naff. :rolleyes:

DVDWotcha
09-11-2001, 14:35
I'll wager they'll put it on the site at 11:59:59pm CST (i.e. 7am GMT 10thNov)

arkham
09-11-2001, 14:46
Ok im starting to get annoyed now:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

WHERE THE DANG TRAILER LUCAS?

Uridium
09-11-2001, 14:52
Annoying!!! Been refreshing like mad all day! C'mon peeps - some of us want to see it before we go home (since I've got access to a DVDRom drive here at work with a 2MB line - nice!! ;) )

Bingo Bongo
09-11-2001, 14:55
I finally got to see the Breathing trailor last night - it was on Film 2001.

The Boba Fett bit looked good

Robby
09-11-2001, 14:57
I'm getting sick of that come back on the 9th of November rubbish.

What time does everyone get up over there?. I make it about 11am Eastern time is that correct?. I'm tempted to just go and watch Shrek, as as soon as it's posted i probably havin't got a hope in hell of d/loading the crapper.

Better be worth the wait.:rolleyes:

arkham
09-11-2001, 14:59
Thats what im doing right now although im still refreshing at the same time:D

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 15:03
http://digicollage.com/photos/movies/lucas/george_lucas.jpg


" Oh... you might want to come back on November 9."

[jabba laff mode] HO HO HO HO HO Bantha Poo Doo !

Robby
09-11-2001, 15:17
http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/contrib/ruinkai/2confusedA.gif

I curse the day i said i'd wait for this trailer. Anyone know any good jokes??, maybe we should have a sing along, put the kettle on, no i've had about 10 cups already. I know i spy....this ones tricky:D

I spy with my little eye something beginnig with.......O Y M W T C B O N N.

HELLLOOO........MR LUCAS !!! have you bought a calandar recently ya tight git, wake up for the love of crap:mad:

arkham
09-11-2001, 15:22
If this trailer is rubbish im gonna kick lucas' booty!

Whose with me??

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 15:28
Ive given up ill have to watch it when i get back tongiht from work at 10 o clock hopefully the server wont be too clogged anyway by then

CB

Robby
09-11-2001, 15:31
I'm with you arkham, thing is if we do any damage we'll really be in trouble with the fanboys then. Plus we know it's not really going to be rubbish as it's got Natalie in........all nekkid. God get a grip Robz your dreaming now.:D

Did anyone get the eye spy then??

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 16:14
:eek: i go away for a few hours and everyone has lost it!

just chill out guys. i know it's frustrating but there's no point getting all riled up as it won't make the preview appear any quicker. stop all those crazy refreshes .... it's not doing you any good!

and as for slating lucas .... come on!! just stop and listen to yourselves - he doesn't owe us anything and he won't be involved in any of this anyhow. i'm assuming none of you are serious though .... i know everyones' hearts are in the right place.

shouldn't be much longer now ....

arkham
09-11-2001, 16:15
Even when i close my eyes all i can see is that flippin web site, I think im going insane:nuts:

Robby
09-11-2001, 16:21
Originally posted by Ben Martin
:eek: i go away for a few hours and everyone has lost it!

just chill out guys. i know it's frustrating but there's no point getting all riled up as it won't make the preview appear any quicker. stop all those crazy refreshes .... it's not doing you any good!

and as for slating lucas .... come on!! just stop and listen to yourselves - he doesn't owe us anything and he won't be involved in any of this anyhow. i'm assuming none of you are serious though .... i know everyones' hearts are in the right place. :)

shouldn't be much longer now ....


Yeah, i'm just kidding, trying to pass the time as well. It's got to the point that i know as soon as i give up and go and do something constructive (yeah right!!:rolleyes: ) the bleeder will come on.

Robby
09-11-2001, 16:23
IT's ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT's ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT's ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tob
09-11-2001, 16:23
still waiting........

Tob
09-11-2001, 16:28
eh?!?! it keeps linking me to StarWars.com

Robby
09-11-2001, 16:31
I wonder how many people are pressing that refresh button with a bemused look on their face.:p :p :p :p :p :D cheap shot?...yes but desperate times call for pathetic measures. I'm sorry I will probably burn in hell for that now.:(

arkham
09-11-2001, 16:34
robby if i could find out where u live i would have to pay u visit and bring my trusty baseball bat

Spooky_uk
09-11-2001, 16:37
No need to wet your pants you know. Geez....

dom
09-11-2001, 18:30
so is it worth me getting me copy out of the dvd cuboard and trying to dl the trailer on me 56k modem???

or is it buggered???

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 18:33
okay guys, this time it really is up!!! :)

Called Mystery .... downloading now!!!

The download page is laid out identically to the 'Breathing' one, except this time the colour-scheme has a warm, red feel and the big graphic is a detailed picture of yoda. looks even better than in the first trailer - very much more like he does in Empire.

Boink!
09-11-2001, 18:43
Well I just saw the trailer on Film 2001 taped from last night and the biggest thing that atuck me about the trailer and the new film is that they have call centres in other parts of the galaxy. :D

Oh and Ms. Portman's looking lovely.:nuts:

Boink!:cool:

Chief Brody
09-11-2001, 19:05
"I finally got to see the Breathing trailor last night - it was on Film 2001.

The Boba Fett bit looked good"


I think you'll find that's Jango Fett. Anway, the disc is in my machine (with the Coruscant menu) at the moment and i still can't link to the site. I just keep being taken to the page saying 'return to the main menu' on the DVD. What do i need to do? Looks like i'll be here all night............. grrr.
:mad:

smiddyboy
09-11-2001, 19:07
So, so, so...

Whats the verdict ???
I forgot about todays trailer and gave the disc to my brother :brickwall

So no new trailer for me, unless someone posts a link:nuts:

Robby
09-11-2001, 20:47
Fiiiinally....... i'm surprised at how quick it's downloading. I have a feeling i'm not going to be able to save this though. Just glimpsing through as it dl, first impressions look good. A lot darker in tone as suggested by the breathing teaser. The actual quality of the picture is really good and i only went for the medium dl option. Was it this film that Jucas decided to film solely in digital or did he do it for Episode 1 as well???.

Oh, yeah and Natalie looks even better, she's right turned into a little sexpot hasn't she???

Cornelius
09-11-2001, 21:28
Anyone catch this on Film 2001 last night? It looks so much better on the big screen. Real class, I once again have high hopes for the franchise.

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 21:32
Just got in from work straight on me computer. Well im chuffed its a great trailer ! the buzz and hype has definatley started for me now i can t wait for this to come out 6 months to go :(

Robby
09-11-2001, 21:36
CBSKYWALKER did you manage to save the trailer my any chance. I haven't figured out how (if) you can do it. I spent ages waiting for it to dl and i don't really wanna ge rid of it.:(

CBSKYWALKER
09-11-2001, 21:42
Normally trailers like these get dumped in your windows temporary internet file folder so havea check there and then copy it across. Its not there on mine i think that this must be some sort of new protection. It will turn up on mpg somwhere and then youll be able to save it to your hard drive it does mean downloading it again though :(

Ben Martin
09-11-2001, 22:13
i've posted what i have managed to discover about this file on the 'other' thread (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31534).