Winamp plugin that matches music ?

[Tempest]

I'm after a winamp plugin that makes pretty swirly patterns (3d looking patterns even better) a bit like the one that comes with the latest winamp vis_milk.dll

But it would be so nice to fine one that in some way actually matches the music.

So often the music is a strong boom boom boom beat, and the visualisation just sites there and makes pretty swirly patterns.

Do any of these actually apprear to follow the beat of the music ?

[HaloMan]

Doesn't AVS (Advanced Visualisation System) come with Winamp anymore? It does exactly what you said

[Tempest]

Doesn't AVS (Advanced Visualisation System) come with Winamp anymore? It does exactly what you said

Sorry, but no it doesn't :(

I'm assuming (hoping) you can get rid of that horrid annoying white text that says "loading" at the bottom right of the screen.

But although it you look some parts of the pattern sort of go along with the music, it's still just as hopeless as most of them.

eg: If the music is quiet they don't move much, if it's loud and busy it moves a lot.
Nothing really what I would call matching a strong beat.

I'm wondering if it's almost impossible. and would need a human to record a visualisation for a piece of music by hand.

It could be, mozart, iron maden or abba, and the visualisation would look pretty much the same for all of them.

[kiran_mk2]

Most visualisations do cue their effects off the music (with bass providing the most response). I rate Milkbox as being one of the better ones. My main vis pluggin is called epica.

[Tempest]

Most visualisations do cue their effects off the music (with bass providing the most response). I rate Milkbox as being one of the better ones. My main vis pluggin is called epica.

Do you milkbox or the milkdrop that comes with winamp?

Yes, I know they take a cue from the bass, and normally overlay it with a wobbly ossiloscope (sp) line.

I guess I hope for too much.

You'd need more intelligence. A program that knew how music was put together, could recognise the pattern / type of music and do graphics accordingly. I guess these visualisations are only using very VERY simple rules to display their patterns. Not exactly the AI it would need.

[cjb110]

The ones on the xbox media centre seem to be pretty good, and thats based on mplayer afaik...try taking a look at that.

it could just be a matter of recognition, your expecting music to 'look' like something, and it actually doesn't, if you see what I mean :D

[Tempest]

The ones on the xbox media centre seem to be pretty good, and thats based on mplayer afaik...try taking a look at that.

it could just be a matter of recognition, your expecting music to 'look' like something, and it actually doesn't, if you see what I mean :D

Yeah, I know im hoping for too much as it stands right now.
I suppose as years move by I hope that things like this might get better (same goes for speach synthesis) but not a lot seems to improve :(

It just seems that these pretty light patterns really struggle to actually look like they are in time with the beat or reflecting the music that's being played.

I wonder why we don't have something like old Jeff Minters light software where I think you (or someone) actually recorded (if you like) a light show to match a piece of music.

It's like sometimes you have a really Boom Boom Boom strong beat, and on screen you have a swirly pattern, with an wavey line over it. I guess you either need some better AI to listen to the music and understand they type it is and display patterens accordingly, or some man made (recorded) file that goes with the piece of music being played.

Like speech regognition is just listening to sounds/notes but not understanding what's being said. But I know this has been worked on a LOT recently, and a light show is never going to get as much work put into it.

[home_bas]

Wasn't Geiss the original and best for this? used to use this about 5 years ago!
Always found it MUCH better than the pants ones in WMP

EDIT - just noticed that Milkdrop looks like the 'up to date' version of Geiss.. or is it? :thinking:

http://www.nullsoft.com/free/geiss2/screenshots.html

[Tempest]

Wasn't Geiss the original and best for this? used to use this about 5 years ago!
Always found it MUCH better than the pants ones in WMP

EDIT - just noticed that Milkdrop looks like the 'up to date' version of Geiss.. or is it? :thinking:

http://www.nullsoft.com/free/geiss2/screenshots.html

Yes, they both seem to give similar pretty swirly patterns...