View Full Version : 24 Season 3 Episode 24 - 12pm -1pm SEASON FINALE! **Spoilers**
:D Can't remember when I was this excited about seeing a TV programme. Only 16 (aprox) hours to go. :clap:
Xenomorph
25-05-2004, 11:12
Taking all bets...
Arthur Rabens is...
Chase's Dad 3 - 1.
Not that bad a guy really 4 -1.
Kate Warner (Post op) 5 - 1.
Kate Warner's Dad 6 - 1.
Nina & Jacks illegitimate love bundle 7 - 1.
The Littlest Hobo 9 - 1.
Mark Hamill 11 - 1.
Somehow related to the Drazens 12 - 1.
Nina's Brother 14 - 1.
Jack's Twin Brother 16 - 1.
George Mason: 20 - 1.
Someone we don't know: 67 - 1.
Can't wait for the episode. I hope it's not going to be as pathetic as I've heard it will be!
Roll on Wednesday morning :norty:
Can't wait for this, roll on 9PM tonight :D
Jimi_Hendrix2001
25-05-2004, 16:01
can't wait - BRING IT ONNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:
:clap: I really can't wait for this as well. :clap:
Originally posted by Kryten
roll on 9PM tonight :D
:razz:
Originally posted by Kryten
Can't wait for this, roll on 9PM tonight :D
Why, what's happening in 3 hours? :D
Can't wait for this too. I've been tempted to go back and watch Season 1 and 2 again, but I'm not sure I'll be able to, now all the surprises have 'gone'. Not sure if it's one of those programs you can watch again.
robzinski
25-05-2004, 17:19
News on the cast for series 4 here. No major spoilers in there, but people may wish to see the last ep before reading it.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds14568.html
Welshlad
25-05-2004, 17:41
Originally posted by PC_Bod
Why, what's happening in 3 hours? :D
Can't wait for this too. I've been tempted to go back and watch Season 1 and 2 again, but I'm not sure I'll be able to, now all the surprises have 'gone'. Not sure if it's one of those programs you can watch again.
It is, trust me!
I've watched series 1 4 times and series 2 three times. I'm now going to wait a couple of months for the R2 DVD's of this series then watch all three. Obviously they lose a certain something now the unpredictability has gone and it no longer has that shock factor, but its still exhilarating stuff!
Cant wait for this one tonight......oooohhhhh exciting! :clap:
36Degrees
25-05-2004, 19:20
Hopefully this final will be on par with Season 1 and NOT Season 2's rubbish poor attempt at a finale..
Can't wait, really can't...
Season 3 overall has been brilliant since episode 13 and I'm just hoping the finale is the best one ... (ep16/17/18 being my all time favourite 3 sequential episodes of all time and episode 22's ending just ROCKED....)
If this episode don't have F18s....
:)
darthballs
25-05-2004, 20:44
I have to say I agree with you guys. I can't wait to see this final episode. :thumbs:
I just hope it's better than the Alias finale.
So far so good at the half way point! Saunders is dead and Rabens is on the loose! And Tony has been let back to work :clap:
More in 30 minutes...
... well slightly less than 30 minutes, but OMG :eek: OMG :eek: OMG :eek: OMG :eek: OMG :eek: OMG He took an axe to Chase's arm :eek:
Still another 10 minutes to go though...
... and a very "soppy" end the the episode. Palmer not going for re-election, chase in surgery (that only took a few minutes from getting hand chopped off to surgery :suspect: ), Jack in tears and Tony back in custody.
Left very open for season 4.
joker3001
26-05-2004, 07:47
Woke up at 4 am to kick of the download.
Sleep
Woke up at 7 am to watch the finale
How sad am I!! Why .. because I knew Kyten would post all the spoilers he could and I wouldnt be able to stay away!
Disappointing episode since their seems to be no connection to mandy and nina's employers in this season ..
J
losimagic
26-05-2004, 09:20
Yeah, can't say I was too impressed with this episode :( After the episode with the F-16s I was expecting this one to be really special, but it wasn't too bad I guess, shame about Palmer though
very low key.
How many other people expected a sudden nosebleed at the last minute from Jack when the camera slowly zoomed in on him as the seconds ticked away.
chillster76
26-05-2004, 10:24
I thought that blew away the series 1 & 2 finales, fantastic stuff.
:clap:
Originally posted by evilsly
very low key.
How many other people expected a sudden nosebleed at the last minute from Jack when the camera slowly zoomed in on him as the seconds ticked away.
I certainly expected something when he was in the car (half expected him to shoot himself!)
I think they wrapped this season up without knowing if there was to be another, or making it no need for another, which caused the last few minutes to be pretty dissapointing compared to the rest of the episode.
Saunders getting shot up by Gael's wife - Pathetic. The guy goes from being the biggest threat to world security a couple of episodes ago to this rubbish. If Saunders was gonna die he deserved a hell of alot better from the writers.
Jack cutting Chases' arm off - Pretty cool. One of the better moments of the episode.
Jack putting the virus into the fridge and then standing 2ft away waiting to see what happens? What the hell? How about standing outside the room and peeking through the door?
Palmer deciding not to run for re-election - In other words, the writers admit their pathetic showing for Palmer's storylines this year and have no idea where else they can go with him.
Jack crying and driving off leaving Chase and Kim at the hospital as the final scene? - Whew, it doesn't get anymore exciting than this folks!
There have been some gold episodes of 24 this year, no doubt about it. Certain episodes have been some of the best TV I've seen. But unfortunately they've been few and far between, and this finale just summed it up for me. Compared with seasons 1 & 2 the writers have been pretty dreadful. This is best demonstrated with how they treated Palmer.
Sounds harsh doesn't it? Having seen seasons 1 & 2 and how fantastic they were, it's always sad to see your favourite show have a poor year.
I'd say it seems likely season 4 may start DIRECTLY after season 3's timeline. Then again after seeing Palmer get attacked in the season 2 cliffhanger, I thought the same. Should be interesting to see what they do. But I think they surely will have learnt one thing from this year - If you start what you hype as a significant storyline, don't just throw it in the trash with no further mention of it. Jack's drug addiction, Palmer's girlfriend ect...
A slight let down I must admit,only because we expect too much of 24 and Alias these days due to the occasional exceptional episodes they make.
I didn't expect Chase to survive as I thought he had turned into "retiring cop on last day of the job" twenty minutes into the show!
The ending was fairly awful and i'm sure I'm not the only one who thought that we might get a Chloe revelation in the closing minutes.
I think this and Alias should have one final season and call it a day.
SqueakyG
26-05-2004, 13:53
Whne Jack is in the car at the end, I expected him to shoot up (heroin, or morphine, whatever he was addicted to). I must admit I don't really "get" why he had a girly crying session.
Overall, this finale will disappoint anyone who expected it to be massive and explosive. Instead it's just a regular episode. That's fine by me.
robzinski
26-05-2004, 13:57
I liked the finale, and I now can't wait for 24 series 4 - 'Jack goes round Palmers house for a BBQ.:clap:
Well thats the most disappointed ive been in a while, what an anti-climax.
When I saw jack getting into the car I thought here we go, another SHOCKING ending, i kinda had the idea that jack was gonna use heroin or get a call on his fone or even the car blowing up (smalllville s3 ending like) but no, all we had was one of the toughest characters on TV crying away.
I mean fair enuff, 24 hours of the crap that jack has to go through would be enuff to make anyone break down as he did but this is 24!!
Crying Jack is not what I expected after the endings shown in s1 and s2, in fact im so disapointed I might jst do "a jack" and :cry:
slartybart
26-05-2004, 14:52
A disappointment for me as well, while I like the idea of having a more low-key finale it left a lot of unanswered questions. The biggest problem I have with it is us not finding out the reasons Saunders had for trying to unleash the virus, they teased us for weeks with him telling Jack "you wouldn't understand" and Jack baffled as to why he was doing it. I was hoping for some tie in with the Drazens or Mandy or anything resembling an explanation, to "off" Saunders in that way was a cop out.
It was still an excellent series, once they got back from Mexico. Hopefully with longer to prepare the next season, they can map out a complete 24 hour storyline instead of the mish mash it can be at times.
Bapapapa
26-05-2004, 15:16
Originally posted by robzinski
News on the cast for series 4 here. No major spoilers in there, but people may wish to see the last ep before reading it.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds14568.html Who's 'Agent Tom Baker'..?
:doh:
slartybart
26-05-2004, 15:22
Originally posted by Bapapapa
Who's 'Agent Tom Baker'..?
:doh:
He's the Asian SWAT guy that turns up every time there's a sting operation, he was the guy Tony told to move the agents to the front of Saunders' lair when they had him surrounded. I didn't know his name was Tom Baker though :lol:
robzinski
26-05-2004, 15:51
Originally posted by Bapapapa
Who's 'Agent Tom Baker'..?
:doh:
He's the oriental looking guy who goes on the SWAT missions in a suit when everyone else is in tactical gear.
Originally posted by Bapapapa
Who's 'Agent Tom Baker'..?
:doh:
Just to add a bit more, he's also been in ER and was Gavin in Angel. And he was in Crusade too.
Well I must say I was quite pleased with this episode.
From the moment Gaels wife shot Saunders, I was hooked. I was tense all the way through the episode, which is what I'm looking for.
When the camera first panned to the axe, and chase said "Youve got to do it", all I saw was a fire extinguisher, so didnt understand till Jack got the axe. Even right up to the moment he raised the axe, I was waiting for the crackle of the radio just in time, and then....BOOM off comes the hand. That was excellent stuff, very typical 24. They do the unexpected.
Saunders getting shot, a fine ending to him, he just kinda annoyed me.
Chase in hospital, good ending, although I honestly expected him to turn his toes up to the daises somewhere in the episode, especially after his chat with Jack about him quitting. Fully expectant of the 'retiring cop on last day' scenario.
Jack having a cry at the end, fantastic. I felt that emotion rushing through him. In the past 24 hours, he's kicked his heroin addiction, deliberately murdered a fellow agent, chopped off his son in laws hand, almost sent an innocent girl to her death, amongst many other things.
Even for 24 he's done really well keeping it all 'together'.
Having that cry at the end was brilliant. I could feel all the pent up emotion of him having to deal with it all of a sudden. His brave face finally falling, showing a real person underneath. I was mightily impressed by it.
Palmer not going for re-election, not bad. Not sure how season 4 is going to work out with someone else as President. I think due to the nature of the show, they are going to have to have presidential involvement along the storylines. It seems Palmer might be coming back into season 4, just not as president (or am I reading too much into the s3 ending and that digitalspy link posted above).
As he walked out of his office, I had a feeling it was the last time, but it didn't seem like it. Palmer mentioned that he wont be running for re-election, but it didnt really mean he was leaving office straight away, yet with his security guy announcing the motorcade was here, Wayne putting his jacket on, and them getting into the lift, it felt like the writers were trying to portray it would be the last time he was doing all this.
The only thing I was left seriously brassed off about, was Tony. After all he's done, he didn't get a presidential pardon. During the phone call with Palmer and Jack, I kept expecting him to mention that he's authorisied the pardon of Tony, or for Jack to ask for a favour.
Nothing. Nina got a pardon, and IIRC Saunders was promised one halfway through this series (when he first made contact with the President). Might be wrong though, but I'm sure Nina wasn't the only one to have the President intervent to stop custody.
So, all in all, except for Tony still being locked up, I was quite pleased. Full of emotion for me, and thats what I look for in 24 :)
Regards
Well, it's over. Until 2005. Doh.
Was this last episode good? Yes. Was it great? Not quite, it's last 15 mins were paced so much more slowly than the preceding 45 it seemed kinda epilogue like. They were good minutes, if a little odd with Jack's crying seeming to have no big reason (apart from the day obviously, but I mean no one very big reason), but they tied up a number of loose ends whilst leaving millions still untied....
...When are we gonna have some info. about the President's hand, the gent at the end of season 2, Nina's employers etc? It can't just be left; the series will become like the X-files in that it just ignores so much stuff and contradicts itself with other info.
Aaah well, back to ep 24 - Sherry is dead, Palmer is not running again (:O) and what will Jack do. Also, is Kim gonna be a mum in season 4? Give up CTU? Who knows.....
All in all the best season yet I think due to it's sustained tension and storyline over the majority of the eps (disregarding the Macguffin at the beginning).
Nice,
d80s0q.
jack is supposed to be THE man. what are they playing at with this crying pansy malarky?
i'd rather the big man was infected than reduced to this :cry:
Originally posted by rav2k
jack is supposed to be THE man. what are they playing at with this crying pansy malarky?
i'd rather the big man was infected than reduced to this :cry:
Yep, I thought the virus was going to go off and get Jack as he had a couple of seconds to go - how did he know where the fridge was anyway?
All in all a magic series but the last 10 minutes or so was a bit pants.
:thumbs:
Elsewhere, the future of Penny Johnson Jerald (Sherry Palmer) is similarly uncertain, having taken two bullets to the stomach in the most recent episode.
How can she have a future - she's dead????
duder, he noticed the fridge earlier in the episode- Jack is a very clever guy:D
What a great episode to end with, I was gripped all the way through. :clap:
Oh Dear .... very poor final episode. A few tense scenes but little closure for any of the plot threads .... and where was the "twist" ending?
Overall, a patchy season & probably poorest of the 3 so far. I feel like i'm repeating myself after summing up s3 of Alias in another thread. They set the bar so high with the first two series, that even though this was much better than most tv shows ... it just didnt do much for me.
Roll on January & S4.
bluescrn
26-05-2004, 21:22
I definitely expected *something* more to happen with Jack in the car at the end.... even just falling fast asleep, having him sat there snoring whilst CTU tried to contant him on the radio, might have been a better ending...
chillster76
26-05-2004, 21:38
Jeeze, tough crowd.
Originally posted by SqueakyG
I must admit I don't really "get" why he had a girly crying session.
Well let's see, in the last 24 hours he has had to cut off the arm of his daughter's boyfriend's arm with an axe, this the very same man that he pulled the trigger on 18 hours previously not knowing that the gun wasn't loaded, he's killed countless people, he's been forced to play Russian Roulette, he's shot dead the woman who murdered his wide, he's been made to shoot his boss in the back of his head, one of his partners in setting up the Salazar sting has been killed, the other is facing a minimum of 20 years in jail for treason, he's helped avoid the death of many millions of people, and came within seconds of being infected with a deadly virus, all the while struggling with a Heroin addiction and working with people like Chloe. I don't know about you lot, but I'd find that emotionally draining!
36Degrees
26-05-2004, 21:47
Better than Season 2 ending, but still not quite on par with Season 1s ending, another "We saved the day in 45 minutes, now lets sit back relax bring in some last second revelations to keep us guessing what happens in 3 years" but not another "Jack kills 200 people and saves the day in 60 seconds" - he only killed 1 PERSON maybe I need to repeat that 1 Person in a season finale!
Will Keeler be the next President though or will the democratic nomination win? You can see Keeler being a hard Republican just saying "No kill him" (from 3x06 when Chapelle wanted to blast Jack out of the sky).
It was a good episode though, the second I saw Gael's wife I just thought "she's evil" then I thought "naa it's just the writers planting an evil seed into my mind, they did that in S2..." then BANG DEAD, 9 minutes in, Saunders dead... excellent!
The school was just evil, I'm surprised the bomb had a timer on it, modern bombs don't have timers (Jack - S2 - 2x14) but they are old soviet pieces of rubbish, so I guess it isn't modern enough (although it's just TV effect, was expecting Jack to cut the right wire at 00:00:01 James Bond style).
Jack having a cry at the end.... mixed about that one, while I feel him crying and then geting a needle out and hitting himself with heroine would have been an even more powerful ending, it was still quite powerful considering he's done this in 24 hours and we've done this in 9 months, 9 months of doing this fine easy yeah no crying matter but in 24 hours he has:
* Played Russian Roulette
* Jailbreak
* Kissed Nina (she's the woman who killed his wife incase any of you have forgotten)
* Killed Nina
* Almost injected drugs
* Killed Chapelle an INNOCENT(!!)
* Ran around Mexico worried about breaking his cover while having a gun constantly pointed to him
* Tried to rescue some evil guy's wife to start a new relationship with her
* Pointed a gun at his partners head and pulled the trigger
* Almost killed an innocent daughter, mimicing what he had done to him 4 and a half years ago with Kim
* Seen everyone close to him been forced out or dead (Tony/President/Gael)
Jacks the man, he still is just that though, a man and not god.
36Degrees
26-05-2004, 21:50
Originally posted by Xenomorph
Taking all bets...
Arthur Rabens is...
...
Someone we don't know: 67 - 1.
I bet £200 on Someone we don't know, could I please have my £13600 now please? :)
OMG! @ the trailer for next season!!!!11111ONEONEONE :eek: :notworthy :thinking: :D :p :nono: :norty:
Originally posted by Harsin
OMG!
I'm gonna miss these threads :norty: :nono: :cry:
Thought it was a good ending. Very pleased with the series overall.
Not quite sure how they can "move away" from CTU in season 4 :searchme:
More please :D
basegreen
26-05-2004, 23:56
Originally posted by Harsin
OMG! @ the trailer for next season!!!!11111ONEONEONE :eek: :notworthy :thinking: :D :p :nono: :norty:
where can we see this? whats in it?
Have to agree quite an anti-climax really. Agree that series 3 has had some great moments but I wouldn't say it's gripped me as much overall than S1 & S2.
I too thought Jack was going to kill himself or something at the end. Perhaps they thought 3 cliffhanger endings would be a bit too much and 'obvious' so left it as they did.
Still best show on TV bar none. Roll on Jan 05
Hamburger3
27-05-2004, 00:40
Not the best. Just the most hyped. Very patchy this season and very little left to talk about other than the big let down ending.
This show seems to have "blown its load" in the first two seasons and is now just going through the motions.
The viewing figures were droping off when it was on the bbc so I doubt they will improve on Sky.
The end is in sight.
Originally posted by Hamburger3
Not the best. Just the most hyped. Very patchy this season and very little left to talk about other than the big let down ending.
This show seems to have "blown its load" in the first two seasons and is now just going through the motions.
The viewing figures were droping off when it was on the bbc so I doubt they will improve on Sky.
The end is in sight.
Doesnt really matter what 24's viewing figures are in the UK does it? Not as if they care about that :D
I thought it was a great ending- yeah I was expecting a nosebleed, but Jack breaking down was a great, touching moment and ended the season really well.
As for Season 4, maybe Palmer and Jack can team up to solve crimes :p
Originally posted by Harsin
OMG! @ the trailer for next season!!!!11111ONEONEONE :eek: :notworthy :thinking: :D :p :nono: :norty:
:razz:
Was anyone else getting a Batman the Movie vibe when Jack was running around trying to get rid of the virus bomb? :D
sharp_circle
27-05-2004, 08:22
Well I thought it rocked - great ending to a season and loads of loose ends to tie up in the next season - roll on 2005 :D
hookbeak
27-05-2004, 09:03
I didn't think the ending was duff at all - i thought it was a great ending. As for all the people saying it was ghey Jack breaking down at the end - are you serious ? The guy has just been through one of the three (:)) most stressful days of his life !
been in a prison riot and played russian roulette.
killed his wifes' murderer
seen a woman he loved killed
executed his boss
chopped off his partners hand with an axe.
saved the world.
All while needing a heroin fix. If that doesn't warrant 30 seconds of tears what the hell does ?
serdar13
27-05-2004, 09:25
I felt that the season finale was really poor compared with the rest of the season. Jack crying made me remember the scene out of Armageddon when Bruce Willis was shedding tears and in both cases made me laugh.
I too was expecting something to happen when Jack was in his car. Nose bleed would of been ace with a F16 blowing him up or something more plausable like he tries to drive off and realises that he has a flat tyre so steps out to have a look and sees that an unconfirmed virus is attached to the bottom of his car and as he goes through cutting the wires as he did a few minutes ago. His mobile rings and he cuts the wrong wire and the numbers on the device tick down quicker. We see 0:00 on the device as we see the time get to 1:00pm.
It seems the writers of 24 didn't know which route to take season 4 in so left no 'twists' so they can start fresh next season.
"seen a woman he loved killed"
Who was killed?
Not too sure about this episode as they wrapped things up way too quickly and neatly for my liking. I also hated the really poor timings. I know it's happened before but Chase was in surgery something like 5 minutes after having his hand chopped off and Kim turend up a couple of minutes later. There was me thinking L.A. was a massive sprawling city but obviously it's a small village spread over 500 yards :|
hookbeak
27-05-2004, 10:33
Originally posted by Lorne.t
"seen a woman he loved killed"
Who was killed?
My bad - he didn't see it. But his mexican girfriend got shot escaping with chase.
I totally forgot about his mexican girlfriend!
Originally posted by serdar13
I too was expecting something to happen when Jack was in his car. Nose bleed would of been ace with a F16 blowing him up or something more plausable like he tries to drive off and realises that he has a flat tyre so steps out to have a look and sees that an unconfirmed virus is attached to the bottom of his car and as he goes through cutting the wires as he did a few minutes ago. His mobile rings and he cuts the wrong wire and the numbers on the device tick down quicker. We see 0:00 on the device as we see the time get to 1:00pm.
I.
So youre saying that a rogue F16
Originally posted by serdar13
I too was expecting something to happen when Jack was in his car. Nose bleed would of been ace with a F16 blowing him up or something more plausable like he tries to drive off and realises that he has a flat tyre so steps out to have a look and sees that an unconfirmed virus is attached to the bottom of his car and as he goes through cutting the wires as he did a few minutes ago. His mobile rings and he cuts the wrong wire and the numbers on the device tick down quicker. We see 0:00 on the device as we see the time get to 1:00pm.
I.
So youre saying that a rogue F16 attacking Jack, or him starting to get a nosebleed from a vial he blatantly didnt get exposed to would be more plausible than him just breaking down in tears after the worst day of his life?
As for your idea for a finale- dont give up your day job :D
Good ending to a great season and I didn’t have a problem with Jack showing emotion at the end. I’m also glad there was no big cliff-hanger and it does leave things open for season 4.
The only problem I had this season was Michelle surviving the Hotel virus and Jacks addiction. I don’t know much about heroin addition but would you be able to function as he did :searchme:
serdar13
27-05-2004, 13:17
'Thomasd' - I just feel that him crying in his car didn't have the emotional impact it should of had. I don't think it was his worst day which is what most people have been saying here. I feel that losing his wife in season one warrants a kleenex moment more than what he went through this time round.
TheCookieMonster
27-05-2004, 13:59
Was really disappointed in the final episode. Where was the big twist that we usually expect from a 24 finale :confused:. This season has overall been a bit of a letdown, after Mandy appeared at the end of the last season and we found out that there were even bigger 'bads' to contend with I was expecting this season to link in with that, but it didn't :oh-hum:. We never even found out who Saunders worked for (Because no way could he have the funds for such a big scale operation). This season had some of the worse cases of plot points being set up and dropped, see Jacks drug addiction, Palmers girlfriend. I just hope next season that they actually sit down and outline the whole season from start to end before they even start filming.
36Degrees
27-05-2004, 14:08
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
Was really disappointed in the final episode. Where was the big twist that we usually expect from a 24 finale :confused:. This season has overall been a bit of a letdown, after Mandy appeared at the end of the last season and we found out that there were even bigger 'bads' to contend with I was expecting this season to link in with that, but it didn't :oh-hum:. We never even found out who Saunders worked for (Because no way could he have the funds for such a big scale operation). This season had some of the worse cases of plot points being set up and dropped, see Jacks drug addiction, Palmers girlfriend. I just hope next season that they actually sit down and outline the whole season from start to end before they even start filming.
We learnt at about 4:30am that the funds Saunders aquired was from virus dealing and more importantly he had a contact who whored women out to rich business men and UN delegates then blackmailed them for money, Jack said he was certain Saunders got most of his money via that method.
The more I think about it, the more the ending was great, no plot twist nothing just an emotional breakdown of a character who we see as 'god'... still a heroin fix would have been better.
At some point in the final episode it was mentioned that Saunders was the sole Architect of the terrorist attack and when asked if they were sure, they said yes. I believe this was at some point in CTU.
d80s0q
Welshlad
27-05-2004, 20:53
Just finished watching this and I thought the ending was absolutely immense.
Jack crying was a real neat touch - everyone expected something really dramatic just as suicide/nosebleed/bomb or something else, but what we got was to see another side of Jack, proof that he is after all human and despite his heroics his job can indeed get the best of him. We haven't seen him react like this in the three previous days, so I thought it was a great touch to sign out with a reminder that his job and what it entails does in fact take its toll.
I felt the saunders shooting was a little lacking, but then again CTU is consistently shown to be one of the most inept units imaginable. Admittedly they thrice have saved the country from terrorist plots, but the blunders they continually make is near laughable.
Chase having his hand chopped off was pure-24 gold! Jack just didn't think twice and as soon as the camera panned to the Axe i knew what was coming and loving every second of it. I never thought for a second Palmer would call it a day - fair play they always seem to catch me out on the little twists!
I'm glad they didn't leave the series on a cliffhanger. They did that with Series 2 then decided it was going nowhere so ditched the concept (what was the hand thing all about anyway?) - at least now they have a completely blank canvas for series 4. If they don't want Sheree/Chase/Tony/Palmer/Kim/Adam/Chloe then they have set it up so they don't have too. basically they can do whatever they want and frankly I cant bloody wait! :)
Who did Nina work for?
What is Plan B (end of season 2) - what was the President hand thing all about?
What is the link between season 1, 2 and 3?
:suspect: :thinking: :searchme:
TheCookieMonster
27-05-2004, 22:17
We learnt at about 4:30am that the funds Saunders aquired was from virus dealing and more importantly he had a contact who whored women out to rich business men and UN delegates then blackmailed them for money, Jack said he was certain Saunders got most of his money via that method.
Whoops, so we did :D
i don't care about Jack crying, but I thought the end was very weak. there should have been far more tension, I don't care about Chase's arm, I'd care if he'd have been killed. I don't care Palmer won't be President, I'd care if there had been some info on why he'd been poisened. I don't care that Jack's all upset. Yes he has every right to be, but I'd care if Mandy had put a gun to his head from the backseat of the car or SOMETHING had happened.
2 poor finales in a row. hope enterprise is better :doh:
EDIT - love this AICN quote
Except that Jack cried like a little bitch! Man, I wanted to slap him across the face, put him in a dress and pimp him out like the bitch he is. Crying! I hear the plan for season four is to have Jack crying for the first 21 hours, then he takes a 15 minute break to eat a gallon of ice cream and do his nails, and then more crying. He'll be joined in his weeping by former President Palmer, still lamenting the loss of his bitch wife who was constantly trying to ruin him. Also, they'll occasionally show Tony weeping in jail because he's being ass screwed, and Michelle will be watching, also crying. Then they'll show Jane Saunders crying cause her daddy died! Then another shot of Gael's ex-wife sobbing! Then a quick shot of Kim and Chase laughing and clapping their hands in joy until Chase wonders why his claps make no sound, sees his missing hand and begins to cry. WAH! PLOP! WAH! PLOP! WAH! PLOP
lmao :lol:
Originally posted by mythuk
EDIT - love this AICN quote
until Chase wonders why his claps make no sound, sees his missing hand and begins to cry. WAH! PLOP! WAH! PLOP! WAH! PLOP
:lol: :clap:
Its never a pretty sight when geeks get annoyed :D
Xenomorph
28-05-2004, 11:56
Someone else posted this:
"Or just maybe, MAYBE, he knows exactly what Steven Saunders had to go through in Kosovo, what he had to witness, and fears that one day he just might end up like him. But then the call comes...."
Im happy going with that. We may not know what happened to Saunders in Kosovo, what they had to do - we might one day mind - but Jack does, and thats enough.
A solid finale. Though I sincereley hope however they can link in at least the presidents bio-attack at the end of S2 at some point.
And yes, they should plan it out better it future. Doesn't change the fact it was the best thing on TV this year and probably told some of the best stories I have eve had the privelage to witness.
Fat Bloke
28-05-2004, 12:00
Thought it was a good episode. OK so not as fast paced or action filled as others, but just from how the story had panned out it was never going to be.
What's everyone problem with Jack crying. It was done to show that he is really human after all.
MichaelThornton
28-05-2004, 18:22
Originally posted by Welshlad
If they don't want Sheree/Chase/Tony/Palmer/Kim/Adam/Chloe then they have set it up so they don't have too. basically they can do whatever they want and frankly I cant bloody wait! :)
Maybe these characters aren't needed as season 4 will be a prequel series? I've read that Palmer will definitely be involved next year, and we know that he was involved in 'Operation Nightfall' in Kosovo (mentioned, I think, in season one). So maybe we'll see Jack and Saunders on the same side before Saunders goes all mentalistic!
Ben Martin
28-05-2004, 18:32
anyone who watches smallville and hasn't seen the end of season 3 shouldn't read the spoiler below.
Originally posted by TheDot
...or even the car blowing up (smalllville s3 ending like) i haven't watched that yet ... so thanks. :(
you should have spoilered that, like i have above. just because this thread title has a spoiler warning on it does not mean you can post spoilers about other shows in here.
Excellent finale, superb season and for me THE best show on television at the moment.
Can't wait until Season 4 starts.
jordanash
28-05-2004, 23:04
Jack's scene with Kim at the end has a verbal clue: "there's something I need to do", which is what Kim said to him when he shot Nina "that was something you needed to do, right ?" - so Jack is finally weeping for his wife having at last got rid of the ***** who killed her. Great season with some fantastic stand alone episodes.
robzinski
28-05-2004, 23:29
Originally posted by jordanash
Jack's scene with Kim at the end has a verbal clue: "there's something I need to do",
I took this as him saying he's going to go into rehab as he also said he'd be gone for a while.
Just watched this ep. Great series, just as good as S1 and S2 IMO.
I think the crying scene was a result of his conversation with Chase (Chase leaving the field to be with Kim), and Jack realising what sacrifices he'd made for his job. Excellent ending, but I wasn't particularly impressed with the episode as a whole.
I thought the way they dealt with the activated virus discharger was poor. Jack didn't know how long he had until the virus was released, so I don't think he'd have wasted time opening up the device to see the timer. He'd have gone straight for the axe! That's certainly what I was expecting, and then the episode seemed to lose its momentum in the unnecessary wire-cutting scene. They should have cut out that scene in favour of a little more explaination of the links between the series.
Worst thing about the episode: the gratuitous Ford badge shot mid-way through the final scene :nuts:.
Originally posted by Ben Martin
i haven't watched that yet ... so thanks. :(
Good point, but don't worry, in this instance it won't affect your enjoyment of the episode at all.
robzinski
01-06-2004, 18:42
Whilst Tony's away.....Jack will play!
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds14620.html
sharp_circle
01-06-2004, 21:25
Originally posted by Ben Martin
anyone who watches smallville and hasn't seen the end of season 3 shouldn't read the spoiler below.
i haven't watched that yet ... so thanks. :(
you should have spoilered that, like i have above. just because this thread title has a spoiler warning on it does not mean you can post spoilers about other shows in here.
To be fair - you will have no idea as to what that refers to, not even when you watch it - its a very obscure link.
Ben Martin
01-06-2004, 22:03
Originally posted by sharp_circle
To be fair - you will have no idea as to what that refers to, not even when you watch it - its a very obscure link. i see your point, but it didn't work out that way. when i did watch smallville i spent the last five minutes waiting for TheDot's spoiler to happen.
smallville spoiler:there never was any exploding car. but i had surmised from the story so far, despite trying not to think about it, that one of the main cast was going to appear to be caught in an explosion. on the smallville 3x22 thread everyone is raving about the explosion that did happen - how shocked they were, how cool it was etc. i didn't bat an eyelid. i just thought, "ah, there it is." i wasn't surprised, i didn't jump, i didn't particularly enjoy it. definitely spoiled for me. :(
I can identify with that. In LOL's .nfo they said in plot details "Bauer dies", and I spent the whole episode thinking how annoyed I'd be if he did actually die!
raymondlin
05-06-2004, 05:55
just one small question, how come all the students in that classroom was standing in one side of the room together and screem at the same time when Jack appear at the door?
welshmatt
05-06-2004, 07:58
Hadnt an announcement been made over the tannoy?
Welshlad
05-06-2004, 09:17
cant remember if they did make an announcement, but it would be logical to expect some sort of order for all classes to remain in classrooms while they hun the terrorist down dont you think?
Ben Martin
05-06-2004, 10:40
there was an announcement over the tannoy that all students and teachers should remain in their classrooms until instructed otherwise. this was just before jack looked into that room.
raymondlin
05-06-2004, 14:46
but all standing together on the other side of the room in a huddle seem really funny to me.
raymondlin
05-06-2004, 14:58
I forgot the Russian Roulette part, that was a long time ago !!! But it was certainly VERY gripping section of the season, if anything, i find the first 2/3 of the season a lot more exciting than the latter 1/3.
After we knew about the identity of the Sauders, it turned into a Simon says game. It was still good but the danger wasn't on Jack anymore (which I think is when 24 is at it's best), the danger is on the civilian (which to the audience, is faceless), thus losinng the extra bt of excitment compare to when Jack was under cover.
EDIT
Why did sauders want Chappelle dead? What was he investigating?
Welshlad
05-06-2004, 15:16
Originally posted by raymondlin
EDIT
Why did sauders want Chappelle dead? What was he investigating?
Yes, IIRC he was close to discovering his identy quite early on due to traces he was making with the relevant banks. Saunders got tipped off, and thus had Palmer/Jack do him!
:clap:
Wasn't Chappelle getting close to a money trail that was linked to saunders' daughter?
wonderfibre
06-06-2004, 02:28
RESSEH's correct. Chappelle was too close to finding out that Saunders had a daughter
kiran_mk2
06-06-2004, 02:40
Just watched the whole season today (2nd time I've seen it) and it's deffinately the most consistant season (the 1st had the rediculous multiple kidnap senarios and the amnesia plotline and the 2nd had a very dull last 1/3 and another pointless Kim story). This had the undercover aspect of the 1st half (with some very tense scenes such as the prison riot) and the outbreak related 2nd half (wit the suburb Chapplle episode and the struggle to contain the outbreak). They realy need to employ some better continuity people as Saunder's gave instructions on how to prime the devices in one of his first appearances: two switches, wait 10secs and then the thirs, yet Raburns just flicked one switch to activate it. Also, in the last episode Wayne said to David "something terrible happened tonight" seeming to forget that it was actually just after midday. :dork:
Also the problem every season's had - that of the ever changing number of bad guy henchmen: Saunders had the resources to setup the helicopter attack on Mi6, yet seemed to just down to 2 henchmen when he had Michelle, but this then magically went up at the exchange.
Will deffinately be getting this on DVD. Hopefully, we'll get extended scenes, cos there were deffinately some lines in the "previously" sections that weren't in the preeceding episodes
unrealnils
06-06-2004, 22:14
Originally posted by HBK757
Jack putting the virus into the fridge and then standing 2ft away waiting to see what happens? What the hell? How about standing outside the room and peeking through the door?
yeah i was like WTF is this ?
Its a good job it wasnt my fridge he was using, seals are busting out of it left, right and centre :D
Originally posted by SJ
Its a good job it wasnt my fridge he was using, seals are busting out of it left, right and centre :D
Better call the RSPCA, they're like an endagered species or something :D
Xenomorph
07-06-2004, 00:28
Even if he did stand outside the room, I would have thought he would probably have been infected if the seals were knackered.
wonderfibre
07-06-2004, 07:42
Xenomorph - true, but generally speaking you run away from a deadly virus rather than stand next to it :p
The whole end bit seemed daft. I'd have thought there would have been something in the room they were in to seal it in anyway.
I also doubt he would be allowed to go straight back to his job without everyone in the area spending some time under observation.
It wasn't an ordinary drinks fridge, it was in a bio lab, its not too much of a leap methinks that a fridge to be used for storing chemicals and biological samples will have a decent seal on the door!
Xenomorph
07-06-2004, 20:10
Stop nitpicking the lot of you. It's\It was the best thing on television and you all know it.
Go outside and play cricket or something.
raymondlin
07-06-2004, 22:05
i know, it's like he aged a year in the space of a day too ! how bad is that ! :p ;)
kiran_mk2
07-06-2004, 23:07
Originally posted by amit.t
It wasn't an ordinary drinks fridge, it was in a bio lab, its not too much of a leap methinks that a fridge to be used for storing chemicals and biological samples will have a decent seal on the door!
no - it was in the teachers lounge - it had sandwiches in it.
Xenomorph
07-06-2004, 23:42
Wouldn't the microwave right next to it have been a better choice? I imagine the sealing reglations are far tighter on microwaves.
raymondlin
08-06-2004, 03:56
i dont think microwave are air tight thou.
Yeah, but he could have cooked the virus to death!
jordanash
08-06-2004, 23:14
Remember the first episode and all those bodies being dumped from the truck into the pit ? What the heck was that all about ? Jack's got a lot to answer for - no wonder he was weeping ;)
kiran_mk2
09-06-2004, 00:15
Originally posted by jordanash
Remember the first episode and all those bodies being dumped from the truck into the pit ? What the heck was that all about ? Jack's got a lot to answer for - no wonder he was weeping ;)
The Ukranian scientists who developed the virus sent the bodies to Hector as proof of the virus' power. Hector sent one body to Jack who set up the dropoff at NHS at the start of ep1. As the bodies were being dumped in Mexico you hear Hector say "These are the ones we didn't use"
jordanash
10-06-2004, 00:16
Thanks, kiran_mk2. But, they would send infected bodies which from the Hotel Plaza we now know to be very dangerous indeed ? I'm nit-picking, though, and I watched almost every episode spellbound with glee at how good it was. Well done Keifer and the gang for another season of great entertainment :clap:
CFS Dubois
10-06-2004, 00:40
Originally posted by jordanash
.........But, they would send infected bodies which from the Hotel Plaza we now know to be very dangerous indeed ?
Once the infected host dies, the virus stops becoming contagious. The female virus expert who's name was written on the original infected dead body said this in episode 1. Are you sure you've been paying attention on this episode? ;)
I thought the ending was a bit disappointing, but appropriate and consistent with the last 24 hours. Nothing can beat the shock of the first and second series (the first inparticular, although it wasn't a cliff hanger - she was dead. End of story). I too was expecting a nose bleed or car bomb or something, but if everyone was expecting that, it would have made it predictable IMO.
GoblinUK
10-07-2004, 14:21
My biggest disappointment of the series was the dramatic ending of season 2 went nowhere, there was barely a mention of it.
I thought the episode was a bit of a disappointment, and was up to the high standard of most of the previous episodes, it just seemed everything was tied up with the minimum of fuss. I was also excepted some kind of cliffhanger finale like the dramatic end to season two but instead all we got was Jack crying.
Really enjoyed the final episode of this season. Obviously the reason Jack was crying at the end was because he wasn't looking forward to
firing everyone
In years to come will the first three seasons of 24 be known as the original trilogy? Whatever the changes made next season it still feels like the end of an era.
LouBarlow
22-07-2004, 21:07
Well its not quite a successful outing for CTU this time round....I make it approx 1024 innocent deaths in a day - maybe Jack should run for president with those statistics?
cjanderson
22-07-2004, 21:09
just seen
I assumed jack was crying as he was desperate for a fix, thats how i saw it. and i was thiniing, go on man, you deserve one last hit before rehab!!
i liked the amputation bit, but thought HE IS IN A SCINECE LAB!!!!! they have containment facilities in labs.
Ah well.
Glad palmer gave up, his kids needed him, can not believe he would tell them over a conferebce call rather than arranging for them to get to him asap.
Now to watch 1-12, well i'll watch them sometime anyway
Well its not quite a successful outing for CTU this time round....I make it approx 1024 innocent deaths in a day - maybe Jack should run for president with those statistics?
There were more deaths in the first season, so its an improvement :p
I'll admit I was a bit disappointed. I was waiting for the big shock and it didn't come. Saying that, I think they did something much better and gave it a good resolution. Unlike season 2 it doesn't have a load of hanging plot threads and a cliffhanger that they'll cop out on.
I liked Jack crying in the car. Its a good moment. Hes just had a conversation with his daughter and shes moving forwards and having a pretty normal life. Jacks a killer and he can't have that life.
I also like how hes been up for well over twenty four hours and instead of rushing home to bed hes straight off to work again. I think it plays nicely off the addiction stuff again. He took of heroine (or was it cocaine?) to help forget block out his life, but his job is also an addiction. When hes trying to save the world he doesn't have to think about all the crap hes done and been through.
Anyway, I think the major problem is that the final few episodes have been movie paced. When you decompress the story it has to be resolved quickly so you can have epilogues. I think it would have been alot more satisfying if I hadn't been watching it on a weekly basis. I get the feeling it will all sit better when I rewatch it on DVD.
Anyway :thumbs: Looking forward to next season.
"there's final hits, and there's final hits" hehe...
great episode though, opens up for super-cool jack as a renegade out on his own kicking ass HIS way... well, maybe not.
LouBarlow
22-07-2004, 21:38
There were more deaths in the first season, so its an improvement :p
No way man/woman!
Surely there was nothing on a scale of a hotel full of civilians in the 1st series? As well as a few other bystanders, and heads of CTU etc :D
No way man/woman!
Surely there was nothing on a scale of a hotel full of civilians in the 1st series? As well as a few other bystanders, and heads of CTU etc :D
You're right. I was thinking about Mandy blowing up the plane, but there would have only been about 400 killed in that.
LouBarlow
22-07-2004, 22:35
You're right. I was thinking about Mandy blowing up the plane, but there would have only been about 400 killed in that.
:D
In retrospect, these ctu guys are pretty crappy at their jobs.
Finally I can go in the TV Forum again without fear of clicking on the wrong thread! Another series over - another six months until the next one - can't wait!
Was expecting the big cliffhanger, but it didn't come. Although Jack breaking down may just be that cliffhanger - will he be fit to be around for the the next season (although the Sky announcer pretty much confirmed he would be :oh-hum: ). Thought everything was tied up far better than the first 2 series, and at least the episode wasn't really predictable - I was sure Chase was dead after the 'I'm retiring' speech, and that Jack was going to cop it when he was in the car!
Anyway. the writers have clearly decided to allow themselves as much breathing space as possible to set up the next series. There seems to be plenty of life left in the programme for now, but I think it is very likely that the next series will be very different.
They could decide to effectively start again, with almost a new set of characters, or some of the characters that seem to be out of the series could return under certain circumstances (eg Chase, Palmer, Michelle, Tony). I can't see Sherry or Nina surfacing again, though!
Or they could go down the prequel route, although I feel this would be a mistake as a certain level of predictability will exist. For example, we know that in any prequel series all the characters in S3 will survive.
I could see S4 being a transition series - Jack to remain but to somehow be out of the programme, or at least the front line of CTU, by the end, with the introduction of a new 'batch' to take the series on. Maybe Jack will get promoted to division, or maybe he'll go into politics on the recommendation of Palmer? Or maybe he'll just end up dead or retiring.
But it will be difficult to find a new story that doesn't cover old ground - they have now done bio-terrorism, nuclear bomb, potential war, kidnapping and attempted assassination.
I do expect eventually to see spin-off prequel mini-series with the old characters, maybe seeing the outcome to 'Plan B' from series 2, or Jack undercover with the Salazars. Some of those characters are too strong to be forgotten completely and this is the only way they are likely to be seen again. Maybe they could even consider a film of the mission to Bosnia?
So, now for a couple of weeks break before the series 3 DVD lands on my doorstep and I can start all over again!
In retrospect, these ctu guys are pretty crappy at their jobs.
Just like the real counter terrorist agencies in the US then! ;)
Really enjoyed the final episode of this season. Obviously the reason Jack was crying at the end was because he wasn't looking forward to
firing everyone
In years to come will the first three seasons of 24 be known as the original trilogy? Whatever the changes made next season it still feels like the end of an era.
Why do you think Jack will firing everyone?
Thanks
I think that particular spoiler was more light-hearted than based in fact. :)
Mind you, CTU isn't really the thing about 24. So long as it is the JACK BAUER HOUR, it's good.
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Possible words to use here * : Lunch, Shower, Dinner, Womans, Sleep, Flower, Discussion. etc)
There's some S4 info here (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds15026.html) but it does contain a spoiler (obviously ;) )
Fuel Crusher
23-07-2004, 22:03
Thought the series as a whole was ok but the last episode just had far too many 'as if's for my liking. A few:
1) Bad guy gives up cos their gonna infect his daughter, fair enough, later on continues to help ctu find each terrorist when daughter is out of danger. As if. If he was as dedicated as the series made out he'd of said "up yours Jack, I've changed me mind" or at least have delayed his info.
2) Bad guy on loose in subway station with lethal virus lets just put two coppers on the exit, oh and make sure they're crap enough to be done for with a knife. As if.
3) Bad guy with virus escapes in a car into busy city traffic, dont matter magic computer at CTU will find em in about 3mins flat. As if.
4) Bad guy enters what looks like V large school, cops seal it off in around 30 secs and Chase thinks 'oh I'll search this room in this large school' good job he picks the right one eh. As if.
5) All this stuff going on in the last 2 hours of this day and the big boss finds time to make his interview with Tony a priority, just let the looming national crisis go on in the background. As if.
Sorry if this sounds like I'm havin a pop at the show, as I said I really did enjoy it just thought they threw in a few too many 'unbelievables' for the one last hour.
LouBarlow
23-07-2004, 22:12
It's drama not a documentary...
If you're only now discovering it's far-fetched, where have you been for 3 years? :D
GAmbrose
23-07-2004, 23:34
Far fetched was Kims entire storyline in Season 2.
Gary A
Boozyuzi
24-07-2004, 00:19
The first season was excellant but 2 & 3 are a bit tired - time for bed Jack.
If season 4 started next week I think I would be giving it a miss - sadly.
jordanash
24-07-2004, 00:42
The first season was excellant but 2 & 3 are a bit tired - time for bed Jack.
If season 4 started next week I think I would be giving it a miss - sadly.
One down, 30 million to go.
DarkAvenger
24-07-2004, 13:46
Personally I found Season 3 to be better than Season 2 but not quite as good as Season 1, the only thing I did not like was the Mexico stuff which just seemed like filler until the actual proper storyline began with Saunders. Season 4 could be very different to what has gone before and that can only be a good thing as 3 seasons of Jack and CTU thwarting some kind of threat to the US is probably more than enough, they need to take it in a different direction.
Niceguygeoff
24-07-2004, 16:29
Season 3 was good fun, but I preferred season 2. Still, with pretty much everyone out of the way (including Chappell, Nina, Sherry, Saunders, President Palmer, Tony, Chase and no doubt Michelle and Kim) season 4 should feel a bit fresher. It's a pity Chloe wasn't wiped out though...
Heres some news on the final season and a straight to DVD feature:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/040721b.php
As much as I love this show I'd be glad if they did end it with the next season. I don't want to see it wind up like the X-Files.
LouBarlow
24-07-2004, 20:46
If they are serious they really need to kill off Jack...it's the only way to be sure.
If Season 4 is the last season of 24 then I hope they manage to end it on a high note (quality wise). But knwing that now almost makes me wish they didn't bother with a 4th season at all - it works well as a 3 season story.
Here's my (less than serious) prediction for Season 4:
Jack wakes up in a lunatic asylum and has 24 hours to come to terms with the harsh reality that his life as a CTU agent, including saving the world from terrorist threats almost single handed on more than one occasion is all in his mind; invented to escape from the fact he is an ordinary unimportant person.
Jack: “Where am I? Who are you working for? I’m a CTU agent and I’m not telling you anything.”
Man in white coat: “Ah, the CTU agent delusion again”
Heres some news on the final season and a straight to DVD feature:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/040721b.php
As much as I love this show I'd be glad if they did end it with the next season. I don't want to see it wind up like the X-Files.
Thats an interesting newsbite there. I think Season 4 should wrap it up as well. Don't want further seasons ruining how great a show it is.
I remember praying Season 3 was gonna be good just as I was starting to watch the season premiere :lol:
:lol: JohnMac!
In all seriousness something like that would be very kewl, something to completely fry our noodles! Or a 'Prisoner' type situation - can you imagine Jack stuck in the village?! Or a 'Shock Corridor' situ where ALL the previous '24' characters (both dead and alive) are patients and/or staff in an institution, but is Jack really crazy or is this all just an elaborate conspiracy orchestrated by Mandy and Max the boat the guy!?! :nuts:
:dork: I would so love something like that to happen! Something wonderfully and completely bonkers yet riveting at the same time! and also something that would be in keeping with Jack's continued mental collapse! :dork:
If Season 4 is the last season of 24 then I hope they manage to end it on a high note (quality wise). But knwing that now almost makes me wish they didn't bother with a 4th season at all - it works well as a 3 season story.
Here's my (less than serious) prediction for Season 4:
Jack wakes up in a lunatic asylum and has 24 hours to come to terms with the harsh reality that his life as a CTU agent, including saving the world from terrorist threats almost single handed on more than one occasion is all in his mind; invented to escape from the fact he is an ordinary unimportant person.
Jack: “Where am I? Who are you working for? I’m a CTU agent and I’m not telling you anything.”
Man in white coat: “Ah, the CTU agent delusion again”
ROFL!!!! and his journals and movies were all make believe :D
Walrus Man
25-07-2004, 19:34
I don't think this has been asked yet, but was Chase's cut off arm the same one on which his hand got shot through earlier in the day? If it wasn't, then that's really hard luck.
Also, twice in the series it appeared that Saunders had someone on the inside at CTU, first when he knew that Ryan was on to him, and then when Michelle was being moved from the Hotel. Yet a mole was never unmasked? :thinking:
Finally got round to watching this (yes I know, waaay behind you lot). I really enjoyed it. Missed having a cliffhanger though.
I did notice that they copied Bullit in that car chase. Jack swerved around the same 3 cars three times from different angles. They were separated by other bits so it wasn't just poncy editing !
snowball
28-11-2004, 21:04
So far so good at the half way point! Saunders is dead and Rabens is on the loose! And Tony has been let back to work :clap:
More in 30 minutes...
... well slightly less than 30 minutes, but [size=3 OMG :eek: OMG :eek: OMG [/size] He took an axe to Chase's arm
Still another 10 minutes to go though...
... and a very "soppy" end the the episode. Palmer not going for re-election, chase in surgery (that only took a few minutes from getting hand chopped off to surgery :suspect: ), Jack in tears and Tony back in custody.
Left very open for season 4.
its not quite the season finale i was expecting. Have just finished a mammoth first watch of season 3 and the finale cant quite match the final episode of Season 2 (or S1 for that matter).
I agree about the Chase ending. Too many loose plot holes in this season for me ...
Some that spring to mind:
- Jack, gael and Tony go undercover with the Drazens (edit.. LOL did I say the Drazens.. I meant Victor and Ramone!!) without the CTU's (and more importantly) the President's knowledge. They never wrapped up this storyline. Why didnt the President give Jack some serious stick at the end ??
- When Gael's cover is blown, CTU interrogate him. Why didnt he just come out with the truth there and then rather than be tortured?
- Is CTU really such an insecure place to work :lol: When they bring in prisoners which are more of a world threat to World security than the ones in Guatanamo, they take them for interrogation via the main entrance in full view of all those working at the CTU. :nono: Consequently, civilians (eg Gael's wife) and thhose who work at CTU are exposed.
Also, when you have a visitor at CTU, no one really bothers watching him despite the fact Jack and TOny have their suspicions (eg. the Arabic agent in Season 2)
- S3 was more of an 'extreme' season for me with Jack going to real extremes go get what he wants. I didnt like the way they got rid of CHappelle...although it did have its funny side. I think it was the writer's way of Jack getting his 'revenge' on Chappelle for the Chopper episode in S2. Chappelle was a great character and they should have kept him on :(
Nice work on Sherry though. I think they went as far as they could with her character.
- When Jack calls for a car after the guy in the subway gets out on the road, the car is there for him in a matter of seconds :suspect:
- Do flights to Northern Mexico (from LA) really take less than 1 hour?
- Is CTU/The US/Mexican Govmnt really that incompetent that they can't even trace the airplane/airfield which that Ukrainian virus dealer used to get to LA from Mexico ?
Anyway a great TV programme and one of the best ever . Im totally hooked and its a pity i discovered this just now rather than 3 years earlier.
Roll on Season 4. Not sure i could watch an episode with a week in between...
:notworthy
Oh .. and please please keep Chloe on.. she has been the best character this season IMHO
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I don't think this has been asked yet, but was Chase's cut off arm the same one on which his hand got shot through earlier in the day? If it wasn't, then that's really hard luck.
Also, twice in the series it appeared that Saunders had someone on the inside at CTU, first when he knew that Ryan was on to him, and then when Michelle was being moved from the Hotel. Yet a mole was never unmasked?
Yeah I wondered about that? Also, Saunders' henchmen were able to figure out via the magic computer that CTU were close to tracing his location.. Is CTU's network realy that insecure so any tom dick and harry can hack in willy nilly? :lol:
Oh and good riddance Nina Myers.. I was thinking before Jack shot her that theyve gone as far as they can with this character. How right I was :D
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