View Full Version : The Sopranos s05e11 *Spoilers*
All I gotta say is..... whatever David Chase was smoking while writing this episode ..... I WANT SOME! :suspect:
I dunno where to begin, discussing this episode. Impressive how many previous characters they got back for the dream-sequence ....... and Annette Bening?!? :thinking:
I'm sure it all means something ..... doesnt it? :cuckoo:
Worst episode in a long time tbh.
Annette Bening being the only interesting part.
That dream went on way too long and then a poor sudden ending. What a waste considering theres only a few more to go
Agree with Soprano on this one. It went on way too long and the ending was really sudden. Very short episode also. So, Tony must get rid of Tony B to make good with New York. What happened with that whole Christopher crying at the end of e10? Now he's back to normal like nothing happened, asking for the Toblerone LOL I was hoping this episode would have him discussing with Adriana to leave the life behind, since Tony S treats him like crap anyway. This way, Adriana doesn't bite the bullet. Only 2 episodes left to go. What are the odds that we'll be left with a cliffhanger for the season finale?
But I admit that The Sopranos pulls off the best dream sequences ever.
Green Rizla
18-05-2004, 19:58
three times a lady - lol
ratso-rizzo
19-05-2004, 08:04
Good to see Big Puss making a surprise appearance.
And Annabella Sciorra...:norty:
Ratso
Who is Annabella Sciorra?
Gloria Trillo at a guess, the ex-Merc saleswoman.
ratso-rizzo
20-05-2004, 07:43
That's her!!:nuts:
That was one wierd (and long) dream sequence. Overall it was an ok episode, only two more episodes left of the season :(
Found it pretty boring.
I agree with the other comments - the dream sequence went on and on, way too long. Its a shame because the actual plot just got a lot more interesting.
nickname
20-05-2004, 21:56
in the dream Tony told Annette Bening that something bad was going to happen... methinks a war maybe brewing
ps...the asian chick getting a drink outa the minibar :norty:
mikegray
20-05-2004, 23:10
Wow. Worst Sopranos ever. What was that - twenty minutes of dream sequence? :brickwall
After the asian chick bent over, it was downhill all the way! ;)
This episdoe was great IMO after watching a second time round, there is heated disccustion over at the Sopranos boards on the HBO site on this episode, heres a short guide to the episode (from the HBO boards)
"The episode's dream sequence is structured in the framework of Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol". To spare a lengthy entry, I will assume readers understand the premise of ACC. A snippet of an old version of ACC is actually shown inthe episode.
Scrooge (Tony Soprano) is a "avaricious, misanthropic and heartless". After he is visited by the ghost of his former business partner, Marley, he sees visions of his past, present and future that inspire him.
Tony is visited by a former business partner, Carmine, and just as the spectres in the Dickens classic point with an extended arm instructing Scrooge to advance station to station; from past to present, present to future, so do the characters in Tony's dream sequence.
Past: Car ride with former dead associates. This stage of the dream sequence ends with Tony's old flame, sitting in Melfi's chair, omnipotently extends an arm and points to the TV for Tony to advance to the next stage.
Present: Attending the dinner with Carmela celebrating Meadows engagement...it's in this scene that we see the snippet of ACC. This stage ends with Artie telling Tony he has to advance to the future.
Future: Tony S has a premonition of what Tony B will do. A "mob" chasing him down to kill him is what will ensue in his future if Tony does not change his ways/kill Tony B as he was supposed in the dream. Tony learns his lessons just like Scrooge.
My take on the dream sequence running for the entire episode is Tony S asking Carmela if it's light where she is...he would not ask this question awake since the Soprano residence is a short ride away from the Plaza. It's Tony wondering if Carmela is ready to reconcile and move on...he asks the question again as the screen goes black and the episode ends. Along the same lines, in the real Soprano world, Tony B has not attempted to kill anyone yet. Tony S fell asleep worried/concerned Tony B may do something and it manifests in his dream. Chris reporting to Tony at the end is part of the dream.
I'm confident I'm onto sonething with the ACC reference and framework being applied, but I know there are many questions this theory creates...I need to think about it a little more....
Sorry for the lengthy post...my first and I hope it generates some discussion...
Later"
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