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darrenackers
04-05-2004, 09:33
New Series Sunday 9th May @ 8pm
George vader
04-05-2004, 10:16
Show 1
#Jeremy Clarkson races the new Aston Martin DB9 to Monte Carlo against a high speed train,
and a nun swaps her Vauxhall Nova for a monster truck#
The usual high brow show then!
:lol:
4th series? i thought TG had been running for years and years, like to back when i was a kid?
Originally posted by JayX
4th series? i thought TG had been running for years and years, like to back when i was a kid?
4th series for the new one hour format.:dork:
George vader
04-05-2004, 10:56
Actually a lot of people (myself included) take the mickey out of the show's Max Power/Boys Toys stance but does anyone remember the show in the 80's???
Whe're's a snoring smilie when you need one!
ahhh that'll make sense then. i like TG and im not that into cars, and im certainly not a boyricer type. i just think clarksons funny, i must be one of a very small minority mind :)
GAmbrose
04-05-2004, 11:45
Excellent, that DB9 is GORGEOUS.
Gary A
Radiohead
04-05-2004, 13:36
Isn't it just - the interior alone gives me a full-on robot chubby.
Welshlad
04-05-2004, 15:38
Originally posted by JayX
ahhh that'll make sense then. i like TG and im not that into cars, and im certainly not a boyricer type. i just think clarksons funny, i must be one of a very small minority mind :)
Indeed. My sister watches the show and she isn't in the slightest bit interested in cars - she just finds Clarkson hysterical, as do i!
Good news its coming back :clap:
Originally posted by George vader
Actually a lot of people (myself included) take the mickey out of the show's Max Power/Boys Toys stance but does anyone remember the show in the 80's???
Whe're's a snoring smilie when you need one! Maybe not 80s, but probably 90s before Jeremy Clarkson's ascent to power - The tail end of Tony Mason, Willy Woollard, Angela Rippon, Chris Goffey, possibly some old bearded bloke who was also on Tomorrow's World, Michelle Newman and others.
No pointless sideways action, childish remarks and overuse of filters to make the sky look purlpe, just decent and informative reviews of cars.
Not nearly as entertaining as it is these days, but to me more interesting.
Clarkson is top, very entertaining show. He's a totally different bloke in real life though, top bloke :thumbs:
darrenackers
04-05-2004, 16:41
The original (ish) format Top Gear is now on five, and it's called fifth gear (http://www.five.tv/programmes/fifthgear/). It's got Tiff Needell in one of the original 1980's Top Gear team!
Originally posted by gagsy
Chris Goffey,
Interesting pop trivia, Chris Goffey is the father of Danny Goffey (of SuperGrass).
:dork:
Dave.
Originally posted by Dodgy
Interesting pop trivia
:dork:
Dave.
Or not :D
Originally posted by darrenackers
The original (ish) format Top Gear is now on five, and it's called fifth gear (http://www.five.tv/programmes/fifthgear/). It's got Tiff Needell in one of the original 1980's Top Gear team!
Tiff Needell is the legend.:notworthy
friedeggbutty
09-05-2004, 15:57
Originally posted by penry
Tiff Needell is the legend.:notworthy
For years I thought his name was Tiffany Dell
Originally posted by darrenackers
The original (ish) format Top Gear is now on five, and it's called fifth gear (http://www.five.tv/programmes/fifthgear/). It's got Tiff Needell in one of the original 1980's Top Gear team!
Agreed, TG isn't really a car show now, it's an entertainment show with cars in it.
The only problem with 5th gear is Vicky "Vroom vroom out the side of my mouth" Butler-Henderson.
Originally posted by Roy
The only problem with 5th gear is Vicky "Vroom vroom out the side of my mouth" Butler-Henderson.
:lol:
There's something about this woman that does my head in. Everytime she opens her gob I feel like cringing.
Originally posted by darrenackers
It's got Tiff Needell in one of the original 1980's Top Gear team!
You mean they actually show you Tiff bumming Quentin Wilson?? So that's what they mean by Tiff'in' :nono:
Originally posted by friedeggbutty
For years I thought his name was Tiffany Dell
Me too! :D
Forgot the show was on tonight so forgot to set the video before I left for work. Anyone know if it's likely to be repeated during the week?
Aston Martin DB9 :luv:
I want a DB9 and an Exige. :D
that exige is nuts, quicker (round a lotus desinged track granted) than the posche gt3!!!!
The Exige is just :nuts: , it's the sort of raw, hardcore car I just love...but it's got a Toyota engine. :gag: :gag:
Radiohead
09-05-2004, 21:08
Originally posted by Toothy
The Exige is just :nuts: , it's the sort of raw, hardcore car I just love...but it's got a Toyota engine. :gag: :gag:
What's your problem with that - seems like it uses a similar technique to Vtec....
And I've said it before, if you really want raw and hardcore, get a bike.
Mate, you can't just pimp your mrs like that, it's well out of order.
ANDERSON
09-05-2004, 21:28
Originally posted by Dan
I want a DB9 and an Exige. :D
I'm getting one, DB9 that is.
Off to Aston Martin UK at Gaydon tomorrow for a tour of the factory, car due at the end of the month.
Just off to watch clarkson again :clap:
Originally posted by ANDERSON
I'm getting one, DB9 that is.
Off to Aston Martin UK at Gaydon tomorrow for a tour of the factory, car due at the end of the month.
Just off to watch clarkson again :clap:
Eh? What kind of job have you got to afford a car like that? :thinking:
Originally posted by Radiohead
What's your problem with that - seems like it uses a similar technique to Vtec....
Similar but not the same. Honda's VTEC system was the original variable valve timing system....it's been copied many times....Toyota's VVTi & BMW's Vanos systems....but for sheer simplicity and therefore reliablity...nothing else comes close.
And I've said it before, if you really want raw and hardcore, get a bike.
No thanks mate...I'd fall off and kill myself. :doh: :wave:
Originally posted by Dan
Eh? What kind of job have you got to afford a car like that? :thinking:
Property developer, IRRC
Originally posted by Radiohead
What's your problem with that - seems like it uses a similar technique to Vtec....
Toyota's VVTi is continuously variable so it's not as raw when the 'hot' cam kicks in on Honda's original VTEC system. i-VTEC is similar to VVTi (both intelligent) :dork:
Radiohead
09-05-2004, 21:55
Splitting hairs IMO.
Welshlad
10-05-2004, 07:22
Originally posted by ANDERSON
I'm getting one, DB9 that is.
Off to Aston Martin UK at Gaydon tomorrow for a tour of the factory, car due at the end of the month.
Just off to watch clarkson again :clap:
:eek: :cry:
How long did you have to wait for that?
Ooh you jammy bugger ANDERSON.
I think I speak for the majority of the forums when I say that we are all rather jealous!
I thought that the DB9 piece was excellent. An excellent idea, really well thought out and well put together. The Exige piece was rather 'over the top' but enjoyable. Who else doesn't believe that the dealer was in the back of the CityRover though?
darrenackers
10-05-2004, 09:32
Originally posted by ANDERSON
I'm getting one, DB9 that is.
Off to Aston Martin UK at Gaydon tomorrow for a tour of the factory, car due at the end of the month.
Just off to watch clarkson again :clap:
I live near the Aston Martin factory in Newport Pagnell and often see them testing the nearly finished one's on the way to work. They have different coloured panels as they are not painted yet, but still look awsome!
Island Swing
10-05-2004, 09:48
I reckoned the feature on the Exige was a bit a waste of time, did anyone really care if the copter got the thing tracked or not.
The race through France was great though, you tell Jeremy really enjoyed the run and how much James May hates public transport!
Panavision
10-05-2004, 10:06
Rover should've let TOP GEAR test the City Rover!!! I'm a MG Rover supporter, but they didn't do themselves any favours on Top Gear :(
The French police and DB9 :lol:
Originally posted by Stewart Howie
I reckoned the feature on the Exige was a bit a waste of time, did anyone really care if the copter got the thing tracked or not.
yep, plus there are probably a whole load of other cars that can "out do" the copter's radar in the confines of the track/field.
Originally posted by Panavision
Rover should've let TOP GEAR test the City Rover!!! I'm a MG Rover supporter, but they didn't do themselves any favours on Top Gear :(
They might have done themselves harm, but the City Rover was always goinf to get a poor review either way, wasn't it?
BigHairyScotsman
10-05-2004, 11:57
I really enjoyed last nights show, especially the AM DB9 race. Clarkson trying to find the petrol cap release button :lol: , thought he was gonna explode!
Ohh I wish I could win the lottery & slap 100K down for a DB9 mmmmmm! :luv:
Also the 'star in a reasonable priced car' guest was one mad driver, almost lost it a couple of times on the bends, and she says shes a slow, careful driver, ye right!
Anyway looking forward to the next show.
-=BHS=-
Panavision
10-05-2004, 12:05
Originally posted by SPB
They might have done themselves harm, but the City Rover was always goinf to get a poor review either way, wasn't it?
I look forward to their Zt260 review :)
My wife watched this with me for the first time ever and I think she hit the nail on the head when she said it should be on for half an hour.
That pretty much sums it up for me, there is so much filler and inane drivel that it's fairly obvious they're just filling time.
As kcxdev says - within the confines of a track pretty much most cars would avoid the radar of a helicopter, it was pointless and rpoved nothing at all.
The DB9 vs the train - interesting concept that ultimately proved nothing. It didn't give a comparison between the use of public transport and the car as Clarkson said, because the constraints on May and Hammond were totally unrealistic.
The DB9 was a beautiful car and looks like a great ownership proposition.
As for the fuel cap release thing, can I take I'm the only one who still doesn't know where it is or why it was so difficult to find? A picture of the button is fairly useless in close up :cuckoo:
Also, there were a bit too many shots of the DB9 in the distance with half the screen taken up in the foreground by a traffic sign. Very arty...
I think I may stop watching this, as it isn't adding anything to my knowledge of cars to speak of!
DVDWotcha
10-05-2004, 13:14
I think it is great entertainment, but I take your point it's not a good car review program. I mean how many people can really afford an Exige or DB9 anyway ?
You've got to look at 5th gear really for everyday car comparisons.
The DB9/train race was excellent entertainment. They make a great trio.
soberion
10-05-2004, 14:33
Who cares about car reviews when you can have an Exige and an Apache gunship on screen at the same time :clap:
Fantastic entertainment program. Just like 'They Think It's All Over' isn't so much about sport as the entertainment, so it is with Top Gear. A really nice mix of presenters too, they bounce of each other well.
Looking forward to the rest of this series :)
No a Car show, but Excellent entertaiment!!!
Liked the Rover bit, and him talking like to the dealer :D
And i so want a DB9 :thumbs:
Originally posted by ANDERSON
I'm getting one, DB9 that is.
Off to Aston Martin UK at Gaydon tomorrow for a tour of the factory, car due at the end of the month.
Just off to watch clarkson again :clap:
Hey that's where I work...
Not in the factory though.
You get quite spoilt seeing them everyday, before anyone else, but I enjoyed that segment thoroughly.
Gaydon is a good site though, Land Rover and Jag are here as well. See all sorts of nice stuff driving around.
Oh how i want a DB9.....:luv:
http://www.highresautoimages.com/1600/astonmartin/db92.html
oh dear god penry your image has made me want to rob a bank for the £109k or whatever it was the car costs! I was positively drooling over the car... it's my ambition one day to own an aston martin...
Originally posted by penry
Oh how i want a DB9.....:luv:
http://www.highresautoimages.com/1600/astonmartin/db92.html
Guess having that as my background image is as close as I'm ever gonna get to owning one of these!! :doh:
Radiohead
10-05-2004, 21:12
You and me both....
Originally posted by penry
Oh how i want a DB9.....:luv:
http://www.highresautoimages.com/1600/astonmartin/db92.html
http://www.zen18097.zen.co.uk/forums/homer18.jpg
ANDERSON
10-05-2004, 22:11
Back from Gaydon ( AM factory) now.
All I can say is WOW!
Superb modern complex, with excellent hospitality.
The car park alone was almost worthe the trip, with around half a dozen DB9s' a DB7 Zagato assorted other "heavy metal" and the not yet released V8 Vantage. If you like the '9 wait 'till you see this. Only £70,000! Due Nov 2005. One of our party is already putting his name down for one. Hmmmm......
Inside, the reception area has a DB9 to play with, another in cut-away and the original Vantage show mock up. Absoloutely stunning car in the metal as is the interior.
On the tour we got to see around the production line which is incredibly clean and surprisingly quiet due to the hand built nature of the car. They currently only have one robot on the line.
Best of all though we saw our car in final assembly :clap: Should be with us in the next ten days or so.
Grandmaster
10-05-2004, 22:31
Originally posted by Roy
My wife watched this with me for the first time ever and I think she hit the nail on the head when she said it should be on for half an hour.
That pretty much sums it up for me, there is so much filler and inane drivel that it's fairly obvious they're just filling time.
As kcxdev says - within the confines of a track pretty much most cars would avoid the radar of a helicopter, it was pointless and rpoved nothing at all.
The DB9 vs the train - interesting concept that ultimately proved nothing. It didn't give a comparison between the use of public transport and the car as Clarkson said, because the constraints on May and Hammond were totally unrealistic.
The DB9 was a beautiful car and looks like a great ownership proposition.
As for the fuel cap release thing, can I take I'm the only one who still doesn't know where it is or why it was so difficult to find? A picture of the button is fairly useless in close up :cuckoo:
Also, there were a bit too many shots of the DB9 in the distance with half the screen taken up in the foreground by a traffic sign. Very arty...
I think I may stop watching this, as it isn't adding anything to my knowledge of cars to speak of!
You seem very po-faced about it - Sunday's Top Gear was excellent and I had a smile on my face throughout the programme. The programme isn't about adding to your knowledge of cars, it's about taking you to a fantastical place mostly based on aspiration. You'll notice that the non-aspirational pieces (eg the Fiesta ST and the City Rover) were both essentially played for laughs.
I had to chuckle about your description of the DB9-Train race. It was not supposed to be practical, it wasn't supposed to be a public transport vs car race. The race was all about the power and the mystique of driving one of the world's most beautiful cars, of contrasting real life with the dream. It wasn't supposed to prove anything other than the fact that driving an Aston is impossibly wonderful. I'll bet that Clarkson didn't even win the race. It doesn't matter.
As for the Exige/gunship thing - you're probably right in that other cars can do it too, but "most" of them? I doubt it. The whole exercise was all about using exaggeration to make a point, then hammer it home with an amazing lap by the Stig. Job done.
If you're after "worthy" roadtests, watch Fifth Gear, or better yet, get a subscription to CAR magazine. Top Gear tried the worthy route with Fatboy and his "Insider Dealing" in the first series and it was dull, dull, dull.
Panavision
11-05-2004, 07:33
Originally posted by ANDERSON
Back from Gaydon ( AM factory) now.
All I can say is WOW!
Superb modern complex, with excellent hospitality.
The car park alone was almost worthe the trip, with around half a dozen DB9s' a DB7 Zagato assorted other "heavy metal" and the not yet released V8 Vantage. If you like the '9 wait 'till you see this. Only £70,000! Due Nov 2005. One of our party is already putting his name down for one. Hmmmm......
Inside, the reception area has a DB9 to play with, another in cut-away and the original Vantage show mock up. Absoloutely stunning car in the metal as is the interior.
On the tour we got to see around the production line which is incredibly clean and surprisingly quiet due to the hand built nature of the car. They currently only have one robot on the line.
Best of all though we saw our car in final assembly :clap: Should be with us in the next ten days or so.
WOW!!! Remember to take pics :D
Originally posted by ANDERSON
Back from Gaydon ( AM factory) now.
All I can say is WOW!
Superb modern complex, with excellent hospitality.
The car park alone was almost worthe the trip, with around half a dozen DB9s' a DB7 Zagato assorted other "heavy metal" and the not yet released V8 Vantage. If you like the '9 wait 'till you see this. Only £70,000! Due Nov 2005. One of our party is already putting his name down for one. Hmmmm......
Inside, the reception area has a DB9 to play with, another in cut-away and the original Vantage show mock up. Absoloutely stunning car in the metal as is the interior.
On the tour we got to see around the production line which is incredibly clean and surprisingly quiet due to the hand built nature of the car. They currently only have one robot on the line.
Best of all though we saw our car in final assembly :clap: Should be with us in the next ten days or so.
I'm usually as polite as possible in these forums but right now I'm really kind of hating you....
;)
Seriosuly, hope you enjoy the car. I can safely say that if I had 100k+ lying around spare, a DB9 is the ONLY car I would be prepared to spend that kind of money on. It's one of the most beautiful creations ever :notworthy
I take Top Gear as pure entertainment, nothing more nothing less. Loved the new show and think its format works very well. I started watching 2 seasons ago and was hooked.
I always wanted an exhige but want one more now and i could afford one if i sold everything lol.
It was funny though when Clarkson said he looked calm and relaxed when he arrived and the 2 other blokes who used public transport looked worn out, knackered and stressed.:lol:
Originally posted by ANDERSON
The car park alone was almost worthe the trip, with around half a dozen DB9s' a DB7 Zagato assorted other "heavy metal" and the not yet released V8 Vantage. If you like the '9 wait 'till you see this. Only £70,000! Due Nov 2005. One of our party is already putting his name down for one. Hmmmm......
Well take a look people..... http://www.aston-martin-guide.com/images/amv8-01.jpg
I've got to say i dont really like it as much as the DB9 :( But what could beat it?? Maybe this::norty: http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Porsche%20Carrera%20GT%20B%20-%20800x600.jpg
Originally posted by Grandmaster
You seem very po-faced about it - Sunday's Top Gear was excellent and I had a smile on my face throughout the programme. The programme isn't about adding to your knowledge of cars, it's about taking you to a fantastical place mostly based on aspiration. You'll notice that the non-aspirational pieces (eg the Fiesta ST and the City Rover) were both essentially played for laughs.
I suppose one man's entertainment is another man's drivel :)
Originally posted by Grandmaster
I had to chuckle about your description of the DB9-Train race. It was not supposed to be practical, it wasn't supposed to be a public transport vs car race. The race was all about the power and the mystique of driving one of the world's most beautiful cars, of contrasting real life with the dream. It wasn't supposed to prove anything other than the fact that driving an Aston is impossibly wonderful. I'll bet that Clarkson didn't even win the race. It doesn't matter.
That's hardly fair, after all it was Clarkson himself who made the comparison!
Originally posted by Grandmaster
As for the Exige/gunship thing - you're probably right in that other cars can do it too, but "most" of them? I doubt it. The whole exercise was all about using exaggeration to make a point, then hammer it home with an amazing lap by the Stig. Job done.
Yep, I reckon under those test conditions I could have done it in a Lada.
Originally posted by Grandmaster
If you're after "worthy" roadtests, watch Fifth Gear, or better yet, get a subscription to CAR magazine. Top Gear tried the worthy route with Fatboy and his "Insider Dealing" in the first series and it was dull, dull, dull.
Fair enough, it's not really worthy-ness I'm after but a bit more cars and a lot less Clarkson's irrational judgement.
I guess in a way I am a bit po faced about it, after all I have to sit and watch them have a right laugh in a job we'd dream of doing and at the end of it all we know is that they're having a laugh, they singularly fail to offer any meaningful substance to their reporting.
I know facts can be a bit dull, but they're also fairly important... as you say TG isn't the place to go for those these days..
Ok little heads up for tomorrow night, was in the sun today that Paul McKena hypnotise one of the Top Gear Presenters (Not sure which one, It's not JC).
And then he does'nt know how to drive the car, and thinks the cigarette lighter is a starting button for the car.
Hypnotising people is sooo 1990's
:|
I reckon Toothy should be hypnotised not to like CTR's :wave:
I also reckon all Seat owners should be hypnotised not to be such cheap cackers :doh:
Originally posted by Toothy
Hypnotising people is sooo 1990's
:|
Agreed, very lame and fake.. shame, especially after the apache chase last week.
Not sure about the hypnotism thing. :searchme:
Didn't really like the Mclaren Mercedes to be honest.
Bit of a letdown really tonight, was expecting more.. But hey, how can you beat the stunning DB9 from last week??:notworthy
Bling caddy was nice though :)
beenandgoneagain
16-05-2004, 21:40
Might be just me but i thought the hypnotism was in really poor taste - richard actually seemed pretty upset at one point :(
he'll live, was a bit dull this week though wasn't it.
Panavision
17-05-2004, 07:21
Originally posted by Toothy
Hypnotising people is sooo 1990's
:|
Don't like Mckenna, but loved the hypnotism :lol: if it was real. :suspect:
The Mac Merc was incredible but didn't like the look of the car.
Arthur Fowler
17-05-2004, 07:21
I have to disagree, I thought it was excellent this week. The Nun in a Monster Truck, the Thunderbirds car being manoeuvred through Stevenage (which apparently is now in Northamptonshire) and (sorry but) I enjoyed the hypnotism bits.
Arthur
I'm sure the Thunderbirds car was going through Knebworth. :searchme:
Arthur Fowler
17-05-2004, 11:42
Originally posted by MarkR
I'm sure the Thunderbirds car was going through Knebworth. :searchme:
My bad - you are probably right, but surely still not Northants!
I really enjoyed this week's show. :D
Panavision
17-05-2004, 14:29
The GT3 could beat that time :lol:
I wanted to see The Stig drive that Thunderbirds car around the track.
Somthing i've wated to know -
Who is The Stig?
I think it's D.Hill
There have been two stigs, the first was Perry McCarthy, but I think they got rid of him when his identity got out (or that's just the rumour anyway).
I doubt the new Stig is anyone as famous as D.Hill, although I can't think of anything that Hill is likely to be doing with his time at the moment, perhaps touring with his band? :thinking:
Welshlad
17-05-2004, 17:07
i thought this weeks show was very poor tbh. No interest in the pink thunderbirds car so skipped over that, thought the monster truck thing was just daft (very "driven") so i ffw'd through that, then the hypnosis thing was a pile of BS so I didn't really care for that. the only interesting part was the Merc/Mclaren, and the whole hour-long show was about 15minutes for me!
Originally posted by Panavision
The GT3 could beat that time :lol:
Well in this months Top Gear magazine the race test is Merc SLR v Porsche Carrera GT.
Stig takes them both around the track and the Merc doesn't win...
Panavision
17-05-2004, 19:37
a sub 1:20 time? :eek:
Originally posted by Panavision
a sub 1:20 time? :eek:
YEP...:thumbs:
Man that Carrera GT was well fast, it's at the top of my most wanted cars along with the DB9. :D
Radiohead
30-05-2004, 20:29
Point to point with Joe Public at the wheel on UK roads, I'd bet most would be quicker in the SLR though.....
fattyboombatty
30-05-2004, 20:50
was that "single tank of petrol" feature a repeat as i'm sure i've seen that before:confused:
Fat Bloke
30-05-2004, 21:42
They have driven from London to John O'groats before, but I don't think they have done a 'single tank of petrol' thing before.
Originally posted by Herbal
I wanted to see The Stig drive that Thunderbirds car around the track.
Somthing i've wated to know -
Who is The Stig?
I think it's D.Hill
I believe the Stig is the Lotus test driver:) But thats only a hunch, cos its a Lotus test track. And in the first / second series (cant remember which:confused: ) they had that Lada which they souped up - Lotus did it...
George vader
31-05-2004, 12:29
Ronnie O'Sullivan made me laugh when asked if he was going to buy a DB9,
"No" he replied "my mums quite strict" (with money) Bless.
I very much enjoyed this weeks episode, would love to go down that beach and give the 911 a good thrashing.:D
Doesn't that beach have a 15 mile an hour limit (or similar). We went to drive on it when we were on holiday and the tide was in :lol:
I thought it was a great episode, car struck by lightening :lol: That first burst we thought "Is that it?"
Then BOOOM lol.
The beach bit was brilliant, especially Clarkson with the sand. Those guys have absolutely top jobs.
And loved Clarksons' comment about Beckham and his boyfriends :lol:
simonmac
06-06-2004, 23:13
Can't belive they missed a brill chance to total another caravan (12 so far an counting) with the lightning.
Does Anyone know if it is repeated? Sky Plus has managed to completely "forget" to record it.. where's the hammer!
I really wanted to know what they said about the New Astra.
Can Anyone Help either way?
They said it was 'not bad' - ie: nothing earth shattering but not a bad attempt. They tested two other similar cars - the Mazda 3 and the Golf.
Then concluded that if they wanted summat like those, they'd buy a Ford Focus! :D
Mandrill
07-06-2004, 09:33
It's not repeated afaik
xraystan
07-06-2004, 09:45
I *think* it's repeated on one of the sky digikal channels. Not sure which one though. Sorry.
Originally posted by gavfish
Does Anyone know if it is repeated? Sky Plus has managed to completely "forget" to record it.. where's the hammer!
I really wanted to know what they said about the New Astra.
Can Anyone Help either way?
Sky+ seems to have forgotten a few things last night!
Welshlad
07-06-2004, 09:49
yep, a great episode....not only did i laugh all the way through it, but its the only car show that actually spends the entire time on about the cars! all the rest do these daft 'experiements' and other such nonsense, top gear hammer a 911 around a soggy beach! :notworthy
Also though the Johnny Vaughn and Denise VO was very funny
Mr Biggles
07-06-2004, 09:52
Pretty poor show last night I thought. The lightning thing has been done before at the same facility, either by Fifth Gear or Driven a couple of years ago, but they made out it was their own idea last night. Johnny & Denise were awful as well and I certainly won't be tuning into their show :oh-hum: Johnny needed a good slap and reminding he was the guest and not the presenter.
Originally posted by gavfish
Does Anyone know if it is repeated? Sky Plus has managed to completely "forget" to record it.. where's the hammer!
Yep. This happened to me too :thinking: . Got back in the house to see the last 25minutes though.
Originally posted by Steve39
Yep. This happened to me too :thinking: . Got back in the house to see the last 25minutes though.
I've logged a call with Sky. They say they have no record of any similar complaints so I've pointed them in the direction of digital spy.
Originally posted by gavfish
Does Anyone know if it is repeated? Sky Plus has managed to completely "forget" to record it.. where's the hammer!
I really wanted to know what they said about the New Astra.
Can Anyone Help either way?
They've started repeating the new series on UKPeople (566). The one where Jeremy 'raced' a train in a DB9 was on on Sunday 7pm/
BlueDwarf
07-06-2004, 10:50
Originally posted by mattkbishop
And loved Clarksons' comment about Beckham and his boyfriends :lol:
Would have been mildly amusing if his show was being moved because of the football, but it isn't.
And on the 20th the show is replaced by an Anne Bronte adaptation.
Johnny and Denise - there's a show to avoid.
ITV get rid of a dating show because it had run it's course. They replace it with...a variation on a dating show which gets a pathetic audience. Then the BBC nick the idea and tweak it.
TWiTS.
Radiohead
07-06-2004, 11:57
Originally posted by Steve39
Yep. This happened to me too :thinking: . Got back in the house to see the last 25minutes though.
and me. Glad it's not just my box then (oo matron).
twicenightly
07-06-2004, 12:00
Happened to me too!
Started watching the recording about 15mins after it started, got a way through and it said "end of recording" so I pressed Backup and the recording had gone!
Right pain as I missed about 20 mins of it because of that.
Panavision
07-06-2004, 12:05
A good show, but Clarkson must get rid of the MG Rover complex!!! I'm a big fan of the MG Zeds, terrific handling and fun cars, especially the ZS.
The ZT is a cruiser, doesn't compete with super cars :oh-hum:
James May should've tested the car on the road, probably given a more balanced view.
Many Thanks to All.
I've bought a New Astra and am waiting for it to arrive you see.
Gav
Originally posted by BlueDwarf
Would have been mildly amusing if his show was being moved because of the football, but it isn't.
Probably is in some indirect way.
JohnMid1098
07-06-2004, 13:16
Originally posted by gavfish
Many Thanks to All.
I've bought a New Astra and am waiting for it to arrive you see.
Gav
I hope you got it in a bright colour, as according to the guys on Top Gear, you might have trouble noticing it :D
Decent show tonight, anyone know what that piece of music they used in the xjs section was, the ba ba bababa ba ba ba ba piece?
GAmbrose
13-06-2004, 22:39
You mean the song that sounded abit like a choir was singing it?
No idea, but I'd like to know also :)
Gary A
JCTurner
14-06-2004, 04:52
The choir bit in the music was taken from John Williams Duel of The Fates (from The Phantom Menace OST) but for some reason it was cut with something I've never heard before.....
GAmbrose
14-06-2004, 08:03
No, not that bit sorry.
Gary A
Originally posted by GAmbrose
You mean the song that sounded abit like a choir was singing it?
No idea, but I'd like to know also :)
Gary A 4 Hero - Les Fleur, I think.
Originally posted by paulsaz
Decent show tonight, anyone know what that piece of music they used in the xjs section was, the ba ba bababa ba ba ba ba piece? Was that the right piece of music you were wanting, or did you mean the bit when James May was driving through a tunnel?
It was 4 Hero, Les Fleur I've been after knowin what that track was for ages, it's always on as the background music to something.
GAmbrose
14-06-2004, 14:52
It's in the baileys advert I think.
Gary A
locutus_uk
14-06-2004, 19:30
Why does Clarkson hate yank motors? Yes they can be a bit bad on build quality but they are strong motors and when you can get a Corvette for £25k that will whip most cars this side of £100k then why not?
Even a 10 year old Camaro Z28 will wipe the floor with most modern Jap hot hatches.
Oh and Clarkson has a Ford GT on order...yes an American Car
I have a 13 Year old yank that is still going strong and has more character than the Euroboxes you see every day.
"Stands by for the people about to take the mick out of his American car"
GAmbrose
14-06-2004, 20:00
Hehe, I was thinking about his Ford GT40 on order when he said they were crap.
I wouldn't mind a 4.6 litre Ford Mustang MY05 either, despite what he said about the suspension.
It looks gorgeous, a proper American muscle car.
Gary A
Originally posted by GAmbrose
Hehe, I was thinking about his Ford GT40 on order when he said they were crap.
I was thinking that myself, yet it seemed to get glossed over and never even mentioned by the other presenters, no doubt Clarkson told em not to say anything about that.
Grandmaster
14-06-2004, 21:10
I'm fairly sure that Clarkson wasn't talking about strictly limited edition supercars with a list price of over £100,000 just as he wouldn't have said it about the original GT40.
locutus_uk
15-06-2004, 05:44
The New Mustang is gorgeous and the main reason it has a live rear axle is because the yanks like to drag strip their cars and that type of axle is more suited to it.
You could basically import the V6 version (Good for 200bhp) for less than the price of a Mondeo.
I know which one I would rather have.
Funny how they hated the yank motors and then clarkson raves on about a renault clio which had even worse build quality.
Arthur Fowler
15-06-2004, 07:33
Originally posted by locutus_uk
Why does Clarkson hate yank motors? Yes they can be a bit bad on build quality but they are strong motors and when you can get a Corvette for £25k that will whip most cars this side of £100k then why not?
Even a 10 year old Camaro Z28 will wipe the floor with most modern Jap hot hatches.
Oh and Clarkson has a Ford GT on order...yes an American Car
I have a 13 Year old yank that is still going strong and has more character than the Euroboxes you see every day.
"Stands by for the people about to take the mick out of his American car"
In a straight line the US cars that you talk about are reasonably fast, but show them a corner and then what do you get? I think that this is JC's general dislike of US cars.
locutus_uk
15-06-2004, 11:36
Older ones maybe, but not the modern stuff
GAmbrose
15-06-2004, 11:48
Originally posted by locutus_uk
Funny how they hated the yank motors and then clarkson raves on about a renault clio which had even worse build quality.
I wouldn't say he raved about it, He basically said it was fun and fast, but he spent the first 3 minutes of that 'review' saying how crap most of it was.
Gary A
elvistheking
15-06-2004, 12:46
The original GT40 which the new ford is based was designed and built here in england so it is not technically an american car javascript:smilie(':dork:')
OK ive had enough.
Can somebody explain to me in simpleton terms what understeer and oversteer is please. They always mention it on test drives and ive no idea whet they mean, what it is, what it does etc.
:mad:
They explained this a while ago on top gear, I think it went something like this:
Understeer - You turn into a corner, the car doesn't turn quick enough, you crash into a tree and die. (the rear end has more grip than the fronts and 'pushes' the car resulting in a less sharp turn than you intended)
Oversteer - You turn into a corner, the car turns too quickly, you crash into a tree and die. (the rear end slips out and you end up with the front pointing at a sharper angle than you intended)
I'll try...
Oversteer is when you turn into a corner and the back end of the car slides out of the corner - i.e. the angle of the car is turned into the corner too much - hence the "over".
Understeer is the opposite, you turn the car into the corner and it resists, leaving the car sliding out of the corner, and it angled too shallowly for the corner - hence the "under".
There's a whole load of nuances as to what causes this, down to grip, what wheels are being driven, brake balancing and the disitribution of weight in the car, but I'll leave that to somebody else...
Kevin Warner
18-06-2004, 08:58
In simple terms ...
Understeer = Passenger terified
Oversteer = Driver terrified
:D :D :D
Welshlad
11-07-2004, 18:40
just a heads up 'cos this is on in 20 mins.
Radiohead
11-07-2004, 20:27
Christ that Merc was quick.
Christ that Merc was quick.
Why didn`t they give it the Stig, Would have been interesting ?
Christ that Merc was quick.
What was the 0-60 and the top speed of it as I missed that bit.
Good show tonight, Lionel Richie is :nuts: keeping every car he has owned
It blew the DB9 and Bentley by about 3/4 seconds
KillerHERTZ
11-07-2004, 21:50
What was the 0-60 and the top speed of it as I missed that bit.
4.40 secs IIRC
Fatbloke
12-07-2004, 05:06
No - the 0-60 was never really explained - they mentioned more that on a fast start the merc was just wheen spinning. JC managed a good enough start in the race however. I thought the Spyder(sp?) had the 4.4secs.
As for the top speed, didn't it say that there was an upper limit 'Gentleman's Agreement' from the German manufacturers of 155mph?
:eek: at the tug of war pull though.
I loved JC EDITING himself at the thought of being sued by Lionel Richie after his wheel came off :bow:
Good ep, good to see it back again.
A bit annoying for James that he gets to introduce the Spyder and then Jeremy drives it.
Music during the CL test wound me up for a good hour trying to ID it, until I realised it was from Robocop!
Welshlad
12-07-2004, 08:06
Good Episode. I thought the London Taxi bit was going to be a real time-waster, but it was pretty damn funny.
Yeah the Merc was obscenely powerful, but I still wouldn't buy one if I had the £££
Panavision
12-07-2004, 13:11
I would go with the Aston Martin DB9; I'm not too bothered that it lost out to the Merc. Why didn't they test the car around the track?
Bill Carr
12-07-2004, 13:48
Why didn't they test the car around the track?
I suspect that Merc didn't let them. Probably because they wouldn't want the adverse publicity of their £300,000 car being beaten by some cars MUCH cheaper.
Disappointed I missed this ep, sounds like it was a good 'un.
I suspect that Merc didn't let them. Probably because they wouldn't want the adverse publicity of their £300,000 car being beaten by some cars MUCH cheaper.
Disappointed I missed this ep, sounds like it was a good 'un.
£140,000 not £300,000 it wasn`t the Mclaren Mercedes.
Still prefered the DB9 though and it looked fantastic in red :luv:
Radiohead
12-07-2004, 21:32
See this month's Evo magazine for a very controversial review of the DB9......
Bill Carr
13-07-2004, 08:13
£140,000 not £300,000 it wasn`t the Mclaren Mercedes.
Still prefered the DB9 though and it looked fantastic in red :luv:
Oh right. Bloke at work said it was the new McMerc. Cretin.
Does anybody else think Mercedes are playing a dangerous game? They keep producing more and more model variations with increasing amounts of power, yet their quality reputation is suffering, their dealers are often slated for poor service, and their brand is being increasingly diffused and cheapened. All because they want the biggest numbers. :doh:
The McMerc looks like it was forged from the left-overs of an F1 car, and it's very nice indeed. Though, I want the new BMW M5, cos it looks ace and stuff.
Werdna1979
18-07-2004, 20:47
4 mpg!!! :lol:
I could do about 3 days commuting on a tank!
The GT40 was very nice though, i'd love one.:D
Rudolph Hucker
18-07-2004, 21:55
who did the celebrity lap today i missed it, and did they do any good?
Matin Cloones, did alright a 1:50 I think. He was a bit upset cos he was 1 second off Neil Morrisey.
How funny was the GT in a car park scenario, and 4mpg!!! jeebus 75 miles to a tank. Still was very nice.
Fatbloke
19-07-2004, 07:23
I was disappointed they didn't do anything on the hybrid car they had on at the start of the show :( JC just poo-pooed it with the wave of a hand. Thought this was a bit off seeing that it was mentioned in 3 different synopsis I saw on the program. I'd be interested in how it performs, MPG etc. Perhaps their film on it hadn't been completed yet...
As for the GT40 - nice vehicle but totally impractical. As for JCs head poking out the top of the old version :lol:
I was disappointed they didn't do anything on the hybrid car they had on at the start of the show :( JC just poo-pooed it with the wave of a hand. Thought this was a bit off seeing that it was mentioned in 3 different synopsis I saw on the program. I'd be interested in how it performs, MPG etc. Perhaps their film on it hadn't been completed yet...
I think the general consensus is that their worthless. Hugely priced and no more capable than a diesel supermini. Of course we're doing without the emissions and particulates but until they get to 100MPG plus then they make no economic sense. Besides, Top Gear likes the cheap joke and this was just that. The politicians must squirm when watching it!
What about that piece with the jumbo and the mondeo/citroen?! No wonder they don't let us drive through Heathrow when the planes are moving. Makes Clarkson's potato bazooka look positively wimpy.
I so want a GT40, if i sold my house my present car, my AV and pc stuff i could afford one.
But could i live in it?????
George vader
19-07-2004, 09:23
What about that piece with the jumbo and the mondeo/citroen?! No wonder they don't let us drive through Heathrow when the planes are moving. Makes Clarkson's potato bazooka look positively wimpy.
That reminded me of a clip on t'internet doing the rounds a few yeras ago where a 'parked' airliners engine blew a passing lorry into the air as if it was made of polystyrene! :eek:
Anyone know if last nights ep is repeated at all?
DVDWotcha
20-07-2004, 16:53
Why is such a popular series not repeated ?
elvistheking
20-07-2004, 18:24
Top gear is repeated on UK People on sky I think there is roughly a 4 week delay
Welshlad
20-07-2004, 18:39
Anyone know if last nights ep is repeated at all?
I missed it this week too, and there appears no order or structure to the listings on the UKTV channel that shows it :(
I missed it this week too, and there appears no order or structure to the listings on the UKTV channel that shows it :(
It looks like they're having a 'Top Gear' day. i.e. one every hour. I don't know if last weeks ep will be part of the day. Like you say, there's no order to the episodes.
Good ep last night.
And tbh of all those cars I think I liked the Jag the most as an everyday proposition.
Grandmaster
26-07-2004, 11:43
I so want a GT40, if i sold my house my present car, my AV and pc stuff i could afford one.
But could i live in it?????
You could get a replica of the 60s car (which looks virtually the same) for £18k upwards. But you would look like a tool driving that to Tesco.
Panavision
26-07-2004, 12:48
They should've included the MGTF 160 in their roadster comparison segment!!!
Could I also add
Ranulph Fiennes
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Great interview and a very touching moment of humanity tucked away in what most people expect to be a mindless motoring programme.
Island Swing
26-07-2004, 13:44
Could I also add
Ranulph Fiennes
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Great interview and a very touching moment of humanity tucked away in what most people expect to be a mindless motoring programme.
Really felt for the guy when he was asked about his wife, he didnt expect it at all and it made all his recent achievements seem quite tragic.
Bill Carr
26-07-2004, 13:53
They should've included the MGTF 160 in their roadster comparison segment!!!
Why? It's not very good. ;)
George vader
27-07-2004, 13:58
Last show of the series next week.
Panavision
28-07-2004, 09:50
Why? It's not very good. ;)
UK's bestelling roadster :thumbs: Good cars now. Wouldn't pay attention to the hamster.
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