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Pepsi_1
02-05-2004, 18:12
Hi, my friend has a AMD Athlon XP2600

His says his CPU is running at a too high tempature (64oc)

He currentley has one fan, is there anything that he can do to reduce the temp? lLike fans or stuff like that?

ChrisH
02-05-2004, 18:13
this would be better off in the C&C Forum

splobber
02-05-2004, 18:14
Welcome to the forums. :wave:

Your question will be better off in the console and computing forum.

moving

winho14
02-05-2004, 19:07
that is pretty high, i've got a 2800 running at 40 degrees in windows but not overclocked.

you can reduce the temp. by fitting a better heatsink and fan.
the zalman ones are good if you want it to be quiet!

Pepsi_1
02-05-2004, 19:53
Do you have any links where he can get them?

winho14
02-05-2004, 20:00
www.quietpc.com - for quiet stuff obviously
www.overclockers.co.uk - they have mostly everything at a good price

Mr Jolly
02-05-2004, 20:07
64 is too high I think. He wants it under 60 at full load, idling at around 50-55 (these are max, btw, if he uses a decent cooler he could get it down to nearer 30).

I found that if it gets to 60+ the system becomes unstable, plus it may reduce the life of the cpu.

It's not worth getting more fans to try to reduce the cpu. If the eatsink and fan is insufficient they're best replaced.

Pepsi_1
02-05-2004, 20:14
Ill tell him

SqueakyG
02-05-2004, 21:23
I'm in exactly the same position. Athlon 2600. During winter months the CPU idled at 52 degrees and went up to 59 degrees under load. Now these temperatures have rises... I'm guessing because of hotter weather? Now it idles at 55-58 degrees, and goes up to 65.

I just have the basic fan fitted to the back of the PC. My question is: how come this fan blows cool air out of the back? It doesn't blow cool air into the computer at all, but rather outwards. I assumed it is a circulation thing and I shouldn't worry. But what do you guys say?

I want to look into buying another fan, but I ahve no computer expertise at all, and I'm too scared to fit new things inside.

winho14
02-05-2004, 21:30
well usually you have one intake (front) fan and one outtake (back) fan

i think u'll be needing one at the front as well. there also simple to install, just screw it to the case, and find the 3 pin connector in the mobo for the power to the fan

sandman_2ooo
02-05-2004, 21:32
Originally posted by SqueakyG
I'm in exactly the same position. Athlon 2600. During winter months the CPU idled at 52 degrees and went up to 59 degrees under load. Now these temperatures have rises... I'm guessing because of hotter weather? Now it idles at 55-58 degrees, and goes up to 65.

I just have the basic fan fitted to the back of the PC. My question is: how come this fan blows cool air out of the back? It doesn't blow cool air into the computer at all, but rather outwards. I assumed it is a circulation thing and I shouldn't worry. But what do you guys say?

I want to look into buying another fan, but I ahve no computer expertise at all, and I'm too scared to fit new things inside.

Firstly, if I were experiencing those temperatures, I would invest in a new heatsink. Sometimes the readings can be incorrect because of the motherboard, but 65C sounds too high to me.

The fan... is it the PSU fan or a seperate one? For some reason alot of people like to blow air from front to back... personally I prefer to do it the opposite way as a) I don't have restricted space behind my case and b) blowing front to back means that air from the hd's (hot air!) is blown over the cpu & heat sink.

If the air coming out is cool then it most likely means that the rest of your case is cool enough, but the CPU itself probably needs a new heatsink or is missing thermal compound (the gunk between the heatsink and CPU).

People have mentioned some good places / heatsinks... personally I like the thermalright ones and arctic silver 5 thermal compound - I would avoid the Coolmaster Aero ones like the plague.

Alex

jon bda
02-05-2004, 21:43
Too high, i had an XP2600+ Barton which didn't get that high on a standard AMD HSF. Is it seated correctly?, is the thermal compound in good order?.
:)

ic
02-05-2004, 22:46
Is his Athlon 2600+ a Barton or a Thoroughbred? I think the 2600 was originally released as a Thoroghbred, which would have run at a temperature like that. My old 1800+ was a Throughbred and run in a range of 55 to 70oC. For a Barton that is a high temperature, top 50's would be OK.

Ian

Pepsi_1
02-05-2004, 22:48
think its a Barton.

Any ways...i have a question for you guys :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52477&item=4127970849&rd=1

I would like to know what case this is, and where i mite find one?

I really like this case :), so please tell me :O

Thanks

jon bda
02-05-2004, 22:58
Looks like an ebuyer sort of case tbh. Spend a few extra quid and buy a Lian Li, you wont regret it...
:)

winho14
02-05-2004, 23:46
it looks like a modded case of this Globalwin GAT-002 Aluminium ATX Case (CA-007-GW)

you can see it here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Other_Cases_35.html

the very bottom one, and tbh, doesn't really look that great, just a cool lcd thing

micksea241
03-05-2004, 00:16
My CPU is running at 66oC and my motherboard is running at 38oC.

I have four fans in my machine. The power supply, the CPU fan, a case fan at the back of the PC just oppisite the CPU and an Internal fan next to the Hard drives.

My setup is AMD XP 3000+barton/1 GB PC2700 (at 333MHz)/FX 5700 Ultra.


My last CPU was the AMD Xp 2000= and it seemed to run mostly at this tempeature as well.

cjbarker
03-05-2004, 01:04
60+ degrees is too high (unless you are overclocking). The standard heatsink should be good enough. I'd try taking it off, romoving the thermal paste/pad then apply new paste and put it back on, making sure it's fitted correctly.
If it's still too hot either a new hsf or case fan, or both!

tomos
03-05-2004, 07:10
with a stock cooler, my 2500+ running at 3200+ speeds goes up to 51C under contstant load. no artic silver etc, just normal thermal pad.

64C with no overclocking = something wrong IMO

Pepsi_1
03-05-2004, 11:00
Originally posted by jon bda
Looks like an ebuyer sort of case tbh. Spend a few extra quid and buy a Lian Li, you wont regret it...
:)

WTF?

Those cases dont look n ice :S

I really want a nice case with lights and a see throw side pannel.

Can some one help me find one :)

broona
03-05-2004, 11:13
Originally posted by micksea241
My CPU is running at 66oC and my motherboard is running at 38oC.

I have four fans in my machine. The power supply, the CPU fan, a case fan at the back of the PC just oppisite the CPU and an Internal fan next to the Hard drives.

My setup is AMD XP 3000+barton/1 GB PC2700 (at 333MHz)/FX 5700 Ultra.


My last CPU was the AMD Xp 2000= and it seemed to run mostly at this tempeature as well.

I've got almost exactly the same setup, Radeon 9800 Pro instead though. I've got a fan sucking in at the front, one sucking out at the back, and one blowing on the CPU from the side panel, then obviously the one on the CPU and power supply. My CPU runs at 40°C idle, and a maximum of 50°C under load. Used to run at over 50°C at idle until I put the side panel fan in, dropped the temp 10 to 15°C with one fan, worth considering if you've got space for one. :thumbs:

jon bda
03-05-2004, 11:25
Well i quite like my Lian Li...
:D

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jonbda-2.jpg

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jonbda-lit1.jpg

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jonbda-lit2.jpg

Sorry for the crappy pics, got some better ones knocking about here somewhere but i can't find 'em. Gonna take it back to peices soon to sort out all the lights and wiring properly, braid the PSU and mod the inside a little more...
:)

broona
03-05-2004, 11:35
You could always get one of these (http://www.quietpc.com/uk/tnn500a.php) !!!!! :norty:

sandman_2ooo
03-05-2004, 11:49
Originally posted by broona
You could always get one of these (http://www.quietpc.com/uk/tnn500a.php) !!!!! :norty:

From the site: Zalman have no plans to manufacture a TNN 500A for the Athlon XP.

Not bad other than that... though possibly not too good for overclocking either =/

Alex

SqueakyG
03-05-2004, 13:50
Is it seated correctly?, is the thermal compound in good order?

I'd try taking it off, romoving the thermal paste/pad then apply new paste and put it back on, making sure it's fitted correctly.

See, I'm too scared to do that stuff. I'm not techie at all. I just bought a PC from Mesh, plugged it in, and I use it. It took enough bravery just to take the side panel off and have a look inside. I really don't have the guts to do serious stuff with the CPU and heatsink. Maybe my dad would know how to do it, but I can't rely on him. I'm kind of stuck.

sandman_2ooo
03-05-2004, 14:24
Originally posted by SqueakyG
See, I'm too scared to do that stuff. I'm not techie at all. I just bought a PC from Mesh, plugged it in, and I use it. It took enough bravery just to take the side panel off and have a look inside. I really don't have the guts to do serious stuff with the CPU and heatsink. Maybe my dad would know how to do it, but I can't rely on him. I'm kind of stuck.

Well, if you aren't willing to do what is suggested, it is unlikely you will get it fixed - unless you know someone who knows what they are doing. I know the situation as I do stuff like for for people quite often - maybe ask about amongst your friends, as they may know someone.

Alex

SqueakyG
03-05-2004, 15:04
I have no friends :-(

cjbarker
04-05-2004, 02:38
have a look here (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348%5E1065,00.html)
Info on how to install heatsinks and suggestions for better cooling.
If you don't want to remove the hsf, then a case fan should help - they are cheap and easy to install (but can get noisy). If you let us know your mobo, I should be able to find the manual on-line and point out where the fan connectors are.

Also, how are you measuring the temp?