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MrFurious
04-04-2004, 22:10
they have the uncut hong kong and japan cinematic version??is this the same one at ********* for 27.00??its only 9.99 at cd wow!!

LouBarlow
04-04-2004, 22:44
I think it will be uncut but without any English subs at all...emphasis on think

Worth it for the money though...especially if you know the dialogue off by heart anyway :lol:

Hernster
04-04-2004, 22:46
Ordered. :thinking:

The Dude
04-04-2004, 22:51
It does say on cdwow site that it doesn't have english subtitles...

Splinter
04-04-2004, 22:55
Cd-wow is stocking the HK disc - The Japan R2 is at *********.

Don't think anyone has any info on the HK release yet, so I'd hold off orders until we do.

LouBarlow
04-04-2004, 22:56
While possibly being illegal it may be possible to create a generic 3rd version with English subs if you own the R1 version and the R3 and have a bit of spare time :p

LouBarlow
04-04-2004, 22:57
Originally posted by Splinter
Cd-wow is stocking the HK disc - The Japan R2 is at *********.

Don't think anyone has any info on the HK release yet, so I'd hold off orders until we do.

We know its uncut as thats how it was shown in all Asian countries surely?

Cornelius
04-04-2004, 23:08
Is the R1 cut?

jonathan.e
04-04-2004, 23:32
Have CDWow ever carried any Japanese discs?

DM
04-04-2004, 23:36
Originally posted by LouBarlow
While possibly being illegal it may be possible to create a generic 3rd version with English subs if you own the R1 version and the R3 and have a bit of spare time :p

Yeah you could, it'd only take an hour or so I reckon :norty:

LouBarlow
04-04-2004, 23:42
Originally posted by Dave Metcalf
Yeah you could, it'd only take an hour or so I reckon :norty:

Hey I could spare an hour out of my busy schedule :suspect: :p

Be worth it though I'm sure.

Joe91
04-04-2004, 23:57
Originally posted by LouBarlow
Hey I could spare an hour out of my busy schedule :suspect: :p

Be worth it though I'm sure. If the HK version is the longer cut of the film, it will take a lot longer than an hour to re-sync the subs from the shorter US version.

DM
04-04-2004, 23:59
Ahh yes. dash and darn.

Grant666uk
05-04-2004, 00:21
gone for this cheers. Will do till the mega 3 hour version comes out.

burn
05-04-2004, 00:43
so does the japanese r2 have subs? is it in english too? im confused

BiscLimpkit
05-04-2004, 01:10
Originally posted by burn
so does the japanese r2 have subs? is it in english too? im confused

The Japanese R2 has optional English subtitles but they are on for the entire movie.

jedirobbie
05-04-2004, 06:33
Originally posted by Grant666uk
gone for this cheers. Will do till the mega 3 hour version comes out.

This will be hard, as volume 2 is
9 reels, which is 3 hours.

LouBarlow
05-04-2004, 07:31
Originally posted by jedirobbie
This will be hard, as volume 2 is
9 reels, which is 3 hours.

It's 2 1/2 hours long with credits....at the moment, according to advance screenings anyway.

jonathan.e
05-04-2004, 07:42
Originally posted by LouBarlow
It's 2 1/2 hours long with credits....at the moment, according to advance screenings anyway.


Keep those scissors away from Harvey and Quentin or before you know it we’ll have a trilogy on our hands. :suspect:

LouBarlow
05-04-2004, 07:45
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Keep those scissors away from Harvey and Quentin or before you know it we’ll have a trilogy on our hands. :suspect:

Heh, I think you're right!

Though I can see a multitude of different versions emerging over the coming years...heck we'll have about 6 within the first year of it's life! :nuts: :p

Splinter
05-04-2004, 09:33
Originally posted by LouBarlow
We know its uncut as thats how it was shown in all Asian countries surely?

Was just making the point that we don't know if it's got any subs - for a tenner I guess it's worth it just for the extended cut. But some people are saying the HK disc contains the extended cut and others say it's identical to the R1 version.


Cd-wow aren't the most reliable when listing specs, and i've learnt not to rely on HK discs either.

Cinemasia.net
05-04-2004, 09:55
Originally posted by Cornelius
Is the R1 cut?

Of course the R1 is cut - Isn't that the reason that people are buying the R2 instead?

john316
05-04-2004, 10:13
I'll stick with my R1 - at least I know what I'm getting with that one! :nuts:

Idle Child
05-04-2004, 10:35
I don't see why the jap single disc should be any different whatsoever to the disc found in the jap Kill Bill Boxset. I'm sure it'd be identicle for the simple reason of keeping production costs down.

LouBarlow
05-04-2004, 11:51
Originally posted by Splinter
Was just making the point that we don't know if it's got any subs - for a tenner I guess it's worth it just for the extended cut. But some people are saying the HK disc contains the extended cut and others say it's identical to the R1 version.


Cd-wow aren't the most reliable when listing specs, and i've learnt not to rely on HK discs either.

Of course you're right - I'd be mighty miffed though If having seen the uncut version in my local Hong Kong cinema, I bought the DVD and found it to be different....oh well it's worth a tenner anyway :p

burn
05-04-2004, 13:19
oohh i see what you mean now, it was late and i guess i didnt really grasp the concept. I am gonna go for both the Jap version and the english r2 version, Its extravogant (sp?) but hell its a good film, and i will no doubt get any subsequent special editions, extended cuts etc etc.

wellington
05-04-2004, 15:48
As I have'nt seen the film will I be at a loss if it does'nt have English subtitles?

madstu
05-04-2004, 16:02
Originally posted by wellington
As I have'nt seen the film will I be at a loss if it does'nt have English subtitles?

not for the English speaking bits.

TimMcManus
05-04-2004, 16:09
Just ordered it,sweet!

Cornelius
05-04-2004, 17:03
I've got the R1 on order and I'm surprised it's cut. The question is what are the cuts? Is it worth the trouble to switch to the R3?

Grant666uk
05-04-2004, 17:22
From what I heard there is aprox 2 mins of small cuts to the fight's and the last big fight is in color as it was in the trailer.

one_one
05-04-2004, 17:23
Hi, I'm a bit out of the loop recently in terms of dvd releases, been to busy. Anyway could someone explain to me the problem with not having subtitles on the R3 version? the film is in english right? Am I right in guessing then that the parts which were subtitled in the film where they speak in a different languages are not subtitled on the R3 version? Has this been confrimed?

Is there no version that has the extra's and the subtitles that are needed? what about the R2 ********* has? If it does does that mean u will have to watch the whole thing with sutiles on for the japanese bits or turn them on and off?

If so then i'll stick to the UK R2 as i'm more interested int the film as a whole than extra footage, or I may just get the R3 a bit later!.

Plus I don't suppose any country is releaseing a Pal uncut version? Germany or something? Thanks!

Esteban - CotS
05-04-2004, 18:27
If Chinese subtitles are the only option, then surely you'd think that the English subtitles for the scenes spoken in Japanese would have to be burnt into the film??

And then (for those scenes) the Chinese subs would move to the top, with the existing (burnt in) English ones at the bottom....

That'd be perfect...

Universe (who are doing the DVD according to dddhouse) managed to get the subtitles right for Returner. i.e. English ones only appeared when the spoken language was Japanese, hope they've got this compatible for English language audiences too... they'd be on to a winner..

Though, according to the dvdtalk review, even the R1 features player generated subtitles for the Japanese bits.. :(

Cornelius
05-04-2004, 18:55
I've decided to stick with R1 and get the R3 as well.

Joe91
05-04-2004, 20:21
Originally posted by Esteban - CotS
If Chinese subtitles are the only option, then surely you'd think that the English subtitles for the scenes spoken in Japanese would have to be burnt into the film??

And then (for those scenes) the Chinese subs would move to the top, with the existing (burnt in) English ones at the bottom.... Why? There's no reason for a DVD aimed at Chinese-speaking markets to have English subtitles at all.

I'm very surprised that the Japanese DVD has English subs, I would have expected Miramax to leave them off in order to discourage parallel importation of the DVD.

Esteban - CotS
05-04-2004, 21:38
True, but 99% of R3 dvd's have English subtitles, so the companies are clearly thinking about the potential for selling their editions to English language countries...

chris.quiksilver
06-04-2004, 09:25
And...

The CD-WOW version of Kill Bill (R3) is for Hong Kong market, where there are a hell of a lot of english people over there (something to do with it once belonging to us!?)

To me it seems pretty likely that the Japanese sections are likely to have 'burnt-in' subs (like in HK cinemas) - with chinese subs as an optional extra.

Anyway, i've got it ordered for £7.99 - so it's not a massive loss if it turns out that it only has chinese subs.

Fingers Crossed!:thinking:

Jez
06-04-2004, 09:51
I've decided to go with it as well. To be honist i think that it wont have burnt in subtitles in the jap talking bits or either english subtitles to select, thats the catch.(cause i'm unlucky)

I agree with the hong kong market have interest with the english, which is why its different to ripp off tyme's jap verion which states english subs.£26.99:eek:

Anyway for £6.99 ;) you cannot really go wrong. and if it does have the burnt in subtitles which thinking about it should really be part of the print like in the cinema. It should be a bargin. Thats probably why they are not listed cause they are burnt on in the relevent places.

What the hell am i going on about anyway lets hope:cuckoo:

CRB
06-04-2004, 10:01
Is it just me, but I can only regard this film as "average". A huge part of the film is filled with back-stories and the pace appears to be drawn out just so that they could release two films instead of one, longer, more concise film
What everyone think this film is so good ?

Andy
06-04-2004, 10:10
I don't overly rate it myself to be honest, but I wanted to re-watch it before I go see Vol 2 and this was pretty cheap so why not?

Will most likely sell it on after watching it.

unlucky alf
06-04-2004, 13:36
Originally posted by one_one
Plus I don't suppose any country is releaseing a Pal uncut version? Germany or something? Thanks!

You could get the Thai uncut DVD (http://www.coquesenstock.com/05dfa/product_info.php?products_id=155&osCsid=26f145961893822d4a1a95506191380a) which is PAL.

:)

one_one
07-04-2004, 14:38
Originally posted by unlucky alf
You could get the Thai uncut DVD (http://www.coquesenstock.com/05dfa/product_info.php?products_id=155&osCsid=26f145961893822d4a1a95506191380a) which is PAL.

:)

Thanks!, how come no one else is considering getting this version? It is cheap, only a bit more than cd-wow, and it says it has English subtitles? Pal is a plus for me?

HenryKrinkle
07-04-2004, 16:20
Originally posted by one_one
Thanks!, how come no one else is considering getting this version? It is cheap, only a bit more than cd-wow, and it says it has English subtitles? Pal is a plus for me?

...it's £13.63 according to the site, plus shipping, which is anyones guess!

...anyone ever heard of this site?

one_one
07-04-2004, 16:38
I think they are quite a new site, on initial impressions they seem pretty good tho. Can buy by Pay Pal which is a plus if your worried about credit cards details etc. Might have to give this a chance as I prefer Pal and it is the uncut version. Anyone know what Thai DVD's are like quality wise?

I wonder if it will have automatic english subs for the forign talking bits, burned in or something or wether you will have to turn them on and off when u want them.

unlucky alf
07-04-2004, 16:57
I haven't used them. I spotted the link on another forum but nobody had used them there before.

chris.quiksilver
08-04-2004, 09:04
one thing worth noting is that the US Region 1 version doesn't mention English subtitles anywhere on the packaging - but it does have every other language (korean, chinese etc) listed - so with a bit of luck the Region 3 (HK) version will be the same.

Grant666uk
08-04-2004, 10:55
Should find out about the subs soon as my copy has been Despatched from cdwow.

TheCookieMonster
08-04-2004, 10:59
:clap: mine too

Splinter
08-04-2004, 11:54
Interesting point about the R1 version. Just received the R1 and it has Korean, Chinese and Japanese subtitles - which is obviously unusual for a R1 DVD.

So were these included to give people in those countries access to the theatrical western release? Kinda surprised if that's the case - very thoughtful of Miramax. :thinking:

simong
08-04-2004, 12:24
It wouldn't surprise me if once Vol. 2 is done and dusted in the cinema and the two are spliced togther on DVD, that an unrated version is released on R1 with all the cut sections and full colour. Still getting a copy from CDwow though just in case ;) .

charlie angel
08-04-2004, 14:26
CD-Wow have updated their product listing for KB - it now says -

Fight scenes: Black & White and Colour No English Subtitles

Anyone else as confused as me yet?

Richie
08-04-2004, 14:40
...and no mention of it being the 'uncut' version anymore :suspect:
runtime now listed as 110min, not 113min as previously or even 111 mins as R1! (not that the specs are necessarily reliable but have cd-wow gone and sold loads of copies to people who will now expect but not get the full colour showdown?)

not that I'm panicking or owt! :D

Grant666uk
08-04-2004, 14:41
Just sent this email to cdwow.


Hi there I put in a order for the r3 uncut kill bill a few days ago. This dvd was sent this morning. I have noticed you have changed the info on your web site. Is this uncut or not. I have already bought the r1 version and dont want two the same.

What will they say ???

david080664
08-04-2004, 14:43
Region 3 Hong Kong version has been released by a local company, Universe. The specs on the packaging state: 113 mins Colour.

When I checked it on my DVD player, the actual length is 110 mins and the fight scenes which were in color at the cinemas here are in black and white!!!

Looks like they have used the wrong master:brickwall

Richie
08-04-2004, 14:51
OH BLOODY HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

stantheman
08-04-2004, 14:54
Originally posted by unlucky alf
You could get the Thai uncut DVD (http://www.coquesenstock.com/05dfa/product_info.php?products_id=155&osCsid=26f145961893822d4a1a95506191380a) which is PAL.

:)

That site is a bit unstable at the moment for me, will try later.

Grant666uk
08-04-2004, 15:56
Hi there

Thank you for your email.

My apologies, but we have received different stock to that previously
expected - your order has NO English subtitles, only Chinese, and the extra
scenes are in a mixture of colour or black and white as opposed to the all
colour edition we were expecting. I really am sorry for this.

Unfortunately I am no longer able to cancel your order as we have had
confirmation from our Warehouse that it has already been shipped.

Therefore, please return the order to us in the freepost envelope I have
sent.

We would be grateful if you could enclose a note with the returned item,
clearly stating the order number, your name and email address and the reason
for return (i.e. Refund).

As soon as it is received back in the office I will immediately process a
full refund back to your card.

Your custom is greatly valued by us and I sincerely hope you will want to
use our service again in the near future.

Kind regards

Lara

www.cd-wow.com


BUGGER

Richie
08-04-2004, 15:59
good I'm glad you got a really nice reply like that because I just sent this email to cd-wow:
----------------------------------

Dear cd-wow
My order **** for "Kill Bill Volume One" region 3 dvd shipped today.

I've just found out that it is not infact the "Uncut: Hong Kong & Japan Cinematic Version" of the film as it was advertised to be at the time I placed and paid for my order. I will therefore have to return it unopened as soon as it arrives. I would be grateful if you could provide me with a return envelope / prepaid label for this purpose.

As per your 'returns policy' I assume I can expect a FULL refund without the "nominal charge of £1.50". Your returns policy states "We will be happy to refund the purchase price in full if the return is a result of our error" and as the item was wrongly listed on the website I assume that you will honour this. I would be most grateful if you could confirm this via email.

Does cd-wow intend to inform all customers who bought this dvd when it was advertised as the full colour / uncut version etc (that would be all those that bought it before the specs changed on the website today!) that the dvd does not contain the version of the film that they are expecting to receive? I feel that this would be a very good idea and as a customer I know I would really appreciate being told before I opened the disc! (if I was not already aware). Just a thought!

Regards
etc
----------------------------------

LouBarlow
08-04-2004, 16:13
Jesus, chill out people it's an honest mistake....:nuts: :p

Richie
08-04-2004, 16:23
oh whatever. It's still a hassle.

...and it's the second etailer THIS WEEK to change the details of a dvd I've ordered AFTER it has already shipped. Playusa being the other (because of their insistence of listing US specs and then sending out Canadian product).

TimMcManus
08-04-2004, 17:00
I am fair EDITED off now. Can they be done for false advertising? :mad: :mad:

Don't know, but you've just been done for swearing. :wave:

LouBarlow
08-04-2004, 17:04
Yep check out Watchdog's website for further details.

Niceguygeoff
08-04-2004, 17:05
Hmm. That Thai version looks a good bet now that Cd-Wow have failed us - and with *********'s Japanese R2 disc at a whopping £23.99, the Thai one is a lot cheaper. I'd rather not pick up a PAL version, but at nearly half the price of the ********* option I'll probably go for the Thai disc.

robzinski
08-04-2004, 17:23
Originally posted by Niceguygeoff
Hmm. That Thai version looks a good bet now that Cd-Wow have failed us - and with *********'s Japanese R2 disc at a whopping £23.99, the Thai one is a lot cheaper. I'd rather not pick up a PAL version, but at nearly half the price of the ********* option I'll probably go for the Thai disc.

£26.99 now! :eek:

SIMON ADEBISI
08-04-2004, 17:26
Tim Mcmanus has been giving me guff for ages about kill bill at cdwow because i ordered it from ********* about a month ago and he was going to get it before me and cheaper too. I know the price is a bit much much but all i can saw is " who's the prag now bitch".:clap: :D :clap:

Harsin
08-04-2004, 17:31
Don't forget to contact Amnesty International as well. :|

Tob
08-04-2004, 17:34
Originally posted by SIMONADEBISI
Tim Mcmanus has been giving me guff for ages about kill bill at cdwow because i ordered it from ********* about a month ago and he was going to get it before me and cheaper too. I know the price is a bit much much but all i can saw is " who's the prag now bitch".:clap: :D :clap:

You two should get back to Emerald City!

eechiwawa
08-04-2004, 17:38
Has anyone ordered the R3 Kill Bill from YesAsia? The artwork is the same as CD-Wow's as its the Hong Kong release. However they're still claiming that its 113 mins (like the uncut version), and has English subs. I can't locate a contact email address.

Cirrus888
08-04-2004, 17:53
It says 113 min on the box but its the cut version I've just watched it .... well peeved ...

buffyslaya
08-04-2004, 18:01
Cirrus888 are there english subtitles at all for the japanese dialogue sequences?

Richie
08-04-2004, 18:12
.

david080664
08-04-2004, 18:18
Originally posted by buffyslaya
Cirrus888 are there english subtitles at all for the japanese dialogue sequences?

No.

david080664
08-04-2004, 18:20
Originally posted by eechiwawa
Has anyone ordered the R3 Kill Bill from YesAsia? The artwork is the same as CD-Wow's as its the Hong Kong release. However they're still claiming that its 113 mins (like the uncut version), and has English subs. I can't locate a contact email address.

I have ordered the limited edition from them, at the time it was listed as region 2 NTSC, which is Japan. The limited edition has not been released in HK

Cirrus888
08-04-2004, 18:20
No English Subtitles whatsoever ...

Jez
08-04-2004, 19:20
Originally posted by Cirrus888
It says 113 min on the box but its the cut version I've just watched it .... well peeved ...

So it has not subtitles over the jap talking scene's at all? How much of that is there i have forgotten?

What is actually cut or is it just the fight scene is in b&w?

eechiwawa
08-04-2004, 20:01
I've now ordered the Thai R3 as mentioned earlier from http://www.dvdfromasia.com
Comes to £16.03 delivered, paid via Paypal. They also have it with some promotional plastic bag thing for an extra £ or two, but they'll only have 20 bags available. Release stated as Fri April 16.

Richie
08-04-2004, 22:59
cd-wow are being really good about this.
They've offered me a full refund (without any fee) and have already sent me a pre-paid envelope in which to send the dvd back (and that's before my order even gets to me!).
They replied to my email within just a few hours too.
Really, really good customer service :thumbs:
(if only some other etailers were this helpful and eager to put things right when they make a mistake)

thescrounger
08-04-2004, 23:07
No mention of sending me a pre-paid envelope for the return, so i've e-mailed them asking for one.

Jez
08-04-2004, 23:38
Some links here to the packaging.

http://home.pchome.com.tw/guide/chucky717/16952-037-embed.jpg

http://home.pchome.com.tw/guide/chucky717/16830-kbsf-embed.jpg

:)

BiscLimpkit
08-04-2004, 23:58
I think I might go for the cheaper Thai option then...well once it's on www.ethaicd.com ;)

And er...I'll try and find a solution to the subtitle problem. ;)

(I have a hunch that the subs will be on for the entire movie, not just the Japanese speaking bits).

Wolfman
09-04-2004, 01:34
I am soo mad at this news about the CD-Wow messup.

Just fired off an e-mail asking for a returns envelope and a refund or an exchange for the uncut version if they can source one...

What makes it even more crazy is that the didn't immediately cancel all the orders and send out a mass e-mail advising of the situation.

Looks like its off to somewhere else to get it now....

Cirrus888
09-04-2004, 02:16
Jez - There is a lot of Japanese talking parts in it so subs are essential.

charlie angel
09-04-2004, 08:39
I'm now at the point where I've decided I'm not going to buy any version of KB - there doesn't seem to be one single release that's satisfactory so far (including the Jpn version) & it's too early to double dip.

Maybe QT will see good sense & release all versions on one set in the future.

corbas
09-04-2004, 09:07
I will be going to Japan in a couple of weeks and MIGHT be bringing a couple of copies of the standard Japanese R2 version (NOT the box set - I will only be bringing 1 copy of that back for Jeddie if I can source 1) I should be able to get the standard version for £25 if anyone is interested.

PILGRIMPETE
09-04-2004, 09:46
i am just happy with the one I have ordered from cd-wow for 6.99, as a couple of people have said they most likely bring out an un-rated region 1 special editon sometime.

HugoMorse
09-04-2004, 10:02
Originally posted by charlie angel
Maybe QT will see good sense & release all versions on one set in the future.

In wont happen because of the BBFC. How about a double edition of both films spliced together in B&W for europe (to satisfy the BBFC) and another for the US and/or asia in full colour. Simple.

Richie
09-04-2004, 10:32
In the US (unless a company like Criterion get their hands on the film) it's doubtful that Disney will release an 'unrated' version - seeing as they have a policy not to release unrated films (whether all companies under the Disney umbrella are subject to this I don't know - maybe someone could clarify?).

I actually doubt the BBFC would have any problem with the 'colour' version of 'the showdown' scene (or any of the other trimmed scenes for that matter) - they do after all look at 'tone' as a deciding factor in ratings. Chances are the full version of Vol.1 would get an 18 rating in the UK. I really wouldn't blame the BBFC for the decisions made about the 'western' version of this film as it has absolutely nothing to do with them!

Morpheus2000
09-04-2004, 10:37
Originally posted by TimMcManus
I am fair EDITED off now. Can they be done for false advertising? :mad: :mad:

No. They have a warning when you're buying the DVD that you may not receive the version that listed on the site. Well they did have a warning last time I ordered from them.

Cirrus888
09-04-2004, 10:52
Korean Kill Bill is listed as 111 Mins and its available with two posters:

http://www.papadvd.com/simple_title/simple_title_detail.asp?p_code=110368

sampath
09-04-2004, 11:00
Originally posted by Richie
In the US (unless a company like Criterion get their hands on the film) it's doubtful that Disney will release an 'unrated' version - seeing as they have a policy not to release unrated films (whether all companies under the Disney umbrella are subject to this I don't know - maybe someone could clarify?).

Yes I think Miramax also have the policy of not releasing unrated/NC17 films. This is why for instance the uncut version of Scream hasn't been released by them. Presumably - just as the case was with Scream - Kill Bill is distributed in Japan by some other company, so they get the uncut version.

Richie
09-04-2004, 11:20
yes, it's distributed by Universal in Japan.

TheCookieMonster
09-04-2004, 11:32
In wont happen because of the BBFC.

They've changed their policy recently so it is entirely possible that and uncut version can be released over here.

stantheman
09-04-2004, 12:00
Originally posted by eechiwawa
I've now ordered the Thai R3 as mentioned earlier from http://www.dvdfromasia.com
Comes to £16.03 delivered, paid via Paypal. They also have it with some promotional plastic bag thing for an extra £ or two, but they'll only have 20 bags available. Release stated as Fri April 16.


If that damn site would let me log into my account, I'd order it.:|
Anyone else having problems?

one_one
09-04-2004, 12:07
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
They've changed their policy recently so it is entirely possible that and uncut version can be released over here.

Aren't i correct in saying that it was tarintino himself he choose to release different versions in the different countries, it's not like it was anything to do with the BBFC this time.

Njål
09-04-2004, 18:06
Originally posted by Niceguygeoff
Hmm. That Thai version looks a good bet now that Cd-Wow have failed us - and with *********'s Japanese R2 disc at a whopping £23.99, the Thai one is a lot cheaper. I'd rather not pick up a PAL version, but at nearly half the price of the ********* option I'll probably go for the Thai disc.
While still fairly expensive, it's cheaper from amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DKMK0/qid=1081533182/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/250-5165888-4311424) , coming in at £21, shipping included (the dvd itself is £16.40, so well below the VAT-free limit).
If you haven't used AmazonJP before, there's even a Y500off-coupon (about £2.50) in the Bargains: amazon-coupons-thread (AMZNAFCCNCGC ), so you end uo with about £18.50 postpaid.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 11:10
I received my Region 3 just now from CD-Wow.

It's still sealed and there is no mention of subs on the back.

About to slip it in now...

Grant666uk
13-04-2004, 11:19
I got my one from cdwow this morning too. Not going to bother opening it. The box must have been stood on in the post office. its nice and flat.

Its going back.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 11:33
Sorry to read about that. :(

thescrounger
13-04-2004, 11:44
Mines going back as well. What are cd-wow going to do with all these R3s that are totally useless to anyone?

Grant666uk
13-04-2004, 11:46
Cheers Hernster

I am not to bothered. When I found out about the probs at cdwow I just went and bought it from Amazon Japan. At least it should be the uncut version. It came in at about £17. Not that bad for a Japan dvd.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 11:47
I'm having problems ordering mine from Amazon just now, I have a new credit card, so I deleted my old one, now I find that there is no option to 'add credit card' on my account. FFS.

Trawled through the help pages as well. Had to email them just now, :cry:

Grant666uk
13-04-2004, 12:02
Dont forget to use the money of voucher for first time users at Amazon Japan. Works out at about £2.50.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 12:19
Yea, I have that thanks.

Just had a look at my R3 from CD-Wow, and it has the black and white footage. :cry:

Gandalf
13-04-2004, 12:32
Hernster does it have english subtitles for the Japanese dialogue as per the Theatrical version or not?

Paul.

Grant666uk
13-04-2004, 12:34
I have left my one in its wrap but the cardboard box is very flat and I think there is a plastic case in there. It makes a rattling sound when I shake it.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 12:40
Originally posted by Gandalf
Hernster does it have english subtitles for the Japanese dialogue as per the Theatrical version or not?

Paul.

No English subs whatsoever, :(

Gandalf
13-04-2004, 12:45
****!

Cinemasia.net
13-04-2004, 14:01
It has been confirmed several times that the Hong Kong R3 version is the International cut like the U.S., U.K., and Australian releases.

Hernster
13-04-2004, 15:42
Yea, but I and among many others ordered this before this news was out. :(

Gandalf
13-04-2004, 20:35
Yep the little bugger dropped in thru my letterbox today.

As hernster said no english subs at all. Its a shame I would have held onto this version otherwise as the packaging is good and the sound and picture are excellent :(

Gandalf.

(thanks for the info hernster)

Hernster
13-04-2004, 20:42
I'm keeping mine, despite Play shipping my UK R2 today.

I'm also going to get the version that's listed here from Amazon.JP. :dork:

Dan
13-04-2004, 20:56
Just watched this, absolutely useless without subtitles for the Japanese dialog. :brickwall

Hernster
13-04-2004, 21:00
The film is still fresh in my memory so this didn't bother me too much. :)

sampath
13-04-2004, 21:30
Presumably CD-Wow should still take it back for a refund even it's been opened? After all, they haven't informed people who thought they were ordering the uncut version that a cut version has been sent out, so in theory the only way people can discover this is to have a look for themselves....

bagpuss
14-04-2004, 06:43
Originally posted by Dan
Just watched this, absolutely useless without subtitles for the Japanese dialog. :brickwall

I never saw this at the pictures so tried to watch the R3 DVD yesterday.
Thought it would have just been a handful of lines in Japanese, but it's pretty much a third of all dialogue!

jonathan.e
14-04-2004, 07:38
Originally posted by Hernster
The film is still fresh in my memory so this didn't bother me too much. :)


:lol: Yeah, right.

thescrounger
14-04-2004, 08:21
Well, my pre-paid return envelope has arrived. Back it goes.

Hernster
14-04-2004, 10:08
Originally posted by jonathan.e
:lol: Yeah, right.

Fine whatever. :|

Grant666uk
14-04-2004, 13:46
I got my envelope this morning too. Just went out for a walk with the dogs and popped it in the post box. Bit of bummer. Had to fight the urge to open and watch it.

Oh well hope my other copy ships soon from Amazon Japan.

thescrounger
14-04-2004, 16:06
I've cancelled my Japan order. Going to wait until I here from others who get them first.

Jez
14-04-2004, 17:01
Anyone gone for this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4181773796

Have to let me know if it is indeed in colour :)

arkham
14-04-2004, 17:07
that appears to be the jap r2 box with the r1 menu and if it is r3 it isnt uncut:confused:

Jez
14-04-2004, 17:58
The bloke runnning that auction and dvdsite auction has posted the following in another forum...

Just wanted to quash all the Panic and Incorrect rumours surrounding the Thai Version of KILL BILL and exactly what CDWOW official stance is. I have just come off the telephone to Stuart Wood, who descibes himself as CDWOWS DVD GURU, in other words CDWOWS DVD main man. And he confirms that CDWOW are aware of an R3 Thai UNCUT Version, the same as the Japanese R2 version, but they do not stock it. As most of their suppliers are based in Hong Kong and not Thailand, where this DVD has been released by a very well respected distributor. So there's no need to pay for the over priced Japan R2 Release - unless you haven't a multi-region dvd player that is. Go for the Thai R3 Release! I supply this version myself, so the last thing i want is to end up with a load of R3 Cut Versions that I cannot sell. I have carried out extensive research on the Thai Release. It is currently IN STOCK in Thailand and will be shipping on Fri 16th April. I have also requested my supplier to pop it in to have a look and check that it is what is described in the spec sheet. I will report back with what he finds, but as you can appreciate he is very bogged down! And as far as he is concerned it IS THE UNCUT VERSION, with FUll Colour and English Subs. And i am confident as a bulk buyer that the Thai Release of KILL BILL is UNCUT and Identical to the Jap R2 Release, just much cheaper!!

Njål
14-04-2004, 18:03
My Japanese Kill Bill LE Box Set has gone to shipping stage at Amazon.co.jp............