Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - The Movie on DVD

[budfox]

I've just been browsing CD-Wow and i see that TMNT is being released on Mon 5th April. Going by DVD Times (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10770) it looks like the only extras will be Trailers & TV spots.

Did anyone go and see this when it was re-released at the cinema last year ?

This was all the rage when i was a school but i havent seen the film for about 14-15 years and cant remember a thing about it. Is it any good ?

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[Peter Griffin]

Amazing film. Is this the one when Rapheal(sp?) has to fight loads of foot soldiers on his own because he left the other turtles to go do something? If it is I hated his part as a kid, watching my favourite turtle get beaten :(

Oh and it should be called 'hero.' Daft Americans changing a classic.

[Guiness]

I went to the royal premiere all those many years ago. I'm looking forward to seeing it again. It's underrated. The fight coreography is great and the Jim Henson gear is amazing.

[Joober]

Originally posted by Peter Griffin


Oh and it should be called 'hero.' Daft Americans changing a classic.

I was always under the impression that we were the ones to change it to 'hero' because 'ninja' wasn't suitable for our audiences?

[pebbleinapond]

Any one know if this will be uncut? :D

[nashie]

Originally posted by Joober
I was always under the impression that we were the ones to change it to 'hero' because 'ninja' wasn't suitable for our audiences?

yea thats correct thats why if you look at a screen grab of the UK title screen on the series it looks like its been poorly doctored whereas the original Ninja one looks smoother.

Peter Griffin, who did you think made it? The UK?

[Peter Griffin]

:eek: Of course!

Hero still sounds better to me though. :p

[nashie]

Originally posted by Peter Griffin
:eek: Of course!

Hero still sounds better to me though. :p

oooo no way!

I remember finding the beeb's (or whoever it was, probably the UK property owners) decision to change the name bizarre at the time. I understood what a ninja was (in a basic way, obviously).

[rsbrowndog]

Originally posted by pebbleinapond
Any one know if this will be uncut? :D

I think that's the whole point of the release, i.e. it's uncut - including nunchuka scenes!!

Always thought that was a great scene (when I saw it on a :nono: copy) and was mortified when I discovered it missing from the UK version!

Oh and IMO "Hero" could never sound as good as "Ninja"!

Cheers,

Ryan

[Matt Sandbrook]

yeah Ninjas flip out and kill people! We need more ninja turtle dvds, more original cartoons dvds!

[Jorin]

Originally posted by Matt Sandbrook
yeah Ninjas flip out and kill people!

:lol: :clap:

[Idle Child]

Bah - Ninjas are no match for a mighty Shaolin fist! I'll take Hero's anyday.

Anyway.. shame there's not much more on the disc. It's blatently cashing in on the new turtles show. But at least it's uncut. Should be cool to see this nunchuku scene! I remember those :nono: copies of Turtles too. More precisely, i remember the apawling quality of them and how dark it was to see ANYTHING (particularly the opening scene with Casey Jones in the Park with Raph, and the latter scenes - so no wonder i missed the nunchukus 1st time round).

[budfox]

NINJA over Hero anyday.

[gap]

I have the R1 release. A true classic and it only cost something like £8!

[DuncanSWardle]

is it a 5.1 mix ?

[KeyserSoze]

well ive always known it was originally Ninja, I think the first batch of toys had ninja on it instead. I gotta say Hero sounds better in the theme song :D

[bes]

Most of the old cartoons were heavily cut for nunchaku scenes too, some are appallingly edited.:gag: Plus 'Hero' turtles sounds grammatically inferior to ninja, plus it sounds weedier!
Luckily someone got me the pirate video [the only one I have] of the 1st film when it came out, so I was never subjected to any nonsensical bbfc edits.

[Links]

I've got the R1 version as well and the original ending took me by surprise as I grew up with a well worn pirate tape. Fantastic stuff :clap:

[jj01709]

has the r2 version got the ending on where shredder is hangin off the roof for abit while splinter has a speech then lets him go?

[Moldiver]

Yup

[Walrus Man]

Originally posted by Matt Sandbrook
yeah Ninjas flip out and kill people! Real Ninjas (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)!!! :notworthy

[JimDriver2]

Originally posted by Walrus Man
Real Ninjas (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)!!! :notworthy

Ha ha, i was hoping someone would post that URL again! :notworthy :notworthy

[ryonhilluk]

Originally posted by Walrus Man
Real Ninjas (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)!!! :notworthy

:lol:

[KAC]

Originally posted by Walrus Man
Real Ninjas (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)!!! :notworthy

Fact: Ninjas are mammals. :lol:

[Esteban - CotS]

Follow the link at the top about Seppuku...

The contrasting use of a word (i.e UK meaning drunk, US meaning annoyed) makes it hilarious..

:lol:

edit: hey, that whole site's hilarious. I can't believe he got sued.. :lol:

[pebbleinapond]

Originally posted by Walrus Man
Real Ninjas (http://www.realultimatepower.net/)!!! :notworthy

That site is the funniest thing I've seen in ages

I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town

:lol:

[Walrus Man]

I strongly expect it's a joke, but if it is for real then I shall be buying a copy of his book Real Ultimate Power (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/080652569X/qid=1082409294/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-0323282-8387245?v=glance&s=books). :clap:

This guy is cool, and by cool, I mean totally sweet! :nuts:

[JayX]

even tho i was a massive fan of the series as a kid (had the proper comics, not the naff uk cartoony ones) i never did particularly like the movie. it was only a few months ago when i saw the list of cuts that made me realise why i probably hated it so. i can't see how it works if with that much missing.

even as a kid i despised the uk name, and i had the credits on video that i taped off sky news when it first came out. i showed so many kids that tape hehe (different scenes in the US credits, can't remember what exactly tho.. but they were better)

[Paul Lynock]

So... Umm... Is the R2 still cut to shreds then?

BTW, this is from the review of that book from Amazon.com:

A lot of you have been saying that I don’t know anything about REAL ninjas. But that’s a bunch of bull crap! You dummies don’t know anything. And maybe YOU should get a life. I bet a lot of you have never even seen a girl naked! You idiots believe that ninjas had some "code of honor." Yeah right! If by "code of honor," you mean "code to flip out and go nuts for absolutely no reason at all even if it means that people might think you are totally insane or sweet," then you are right. But if you mean a "code to be nice and speak nicely while sharing and not cutting off heads," then you’re the biggest idiot ever!!!!!! So if you have any brains, you will shut up and get a life. So go shut up, you stupid idiot.

No thank you,

Robert Hamburger

:lol:

[Sneeka]

Originally posted by Paul Lynock
So... Umm... Is the R2 still cut to shreds then?
Short answer - No.

Long answer - Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.

:)

[PacMan2006]

Can anyone explain or give a link to the cuts from this film? I have the R1 version, but have no idea what is/isn't cut from it that might be included in this new R2 version. Thanks.

[Sneeka]

Originally posted by PacMan2006
Can anyone explain or give a link to the cuts from this film? I have the R1 version, but have no idea what is/isn't cut from it that might be included in this new R2 version. Thanks.
Nothing's cut from the R1 dvd version, nor the R2 dvd version.. it was just the original 1990 UK video/cinema release that was cut.

The details (if you really wanna know) of THOSE cuts are as follows:

(from melonfarmers (http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/hitst.htm))

At 17:49s. April is on TV interviewing the police chief and the turtles are watching. In the uncut version we see Leo, Don and Mike in front of the set watching and you can see Mike's nunchaku on his back barely he then kisses the screen when April comes on. 7 seconds of reframing where instead of seeing them sat down as soon as Mike sits down the picture zooms into the TV so all we can see is the TV with April on. This shot is also missing Mike kissing the screen we just hear the sound.

2s. Mikes shell is blacked out when a shot from behind shows his nunchaku in his belt. In the same scene another second is cut when Mike is introduced as it is reframed to avoid seeing his nunchaku.

2s cut. More reframing is used to prevent you seeing mikes nunchaku in his belt when conversing with April about frozen pizza. The idea seems to be cut the nunchaku on sight even if you need slow motion to see them. 3 seconds are gone again when Mike's back is darkened again when he is talking to April.

20s cuts in the following scene where April is eating pizza with the turtles to hide the slight glimpse of the nunchaku in his belt. Next is his Cagney impression which is missing a shot from behind.

3s reframing when Splinter is kidnapped.

When the Shedder is making his entrance and is about to address the foot there are 6 seconds of substitutions. In the uncut one when the red carpet is being rolled out for him you can see the foot solders in a line armed with sticks and the nunchaku. In the UK version we get to see the kids in the crowd above chewing gum and looking board. This is the cheap kind of censorship SKY 1 does in the day with wrestling putting pointless crowd shots in to cover up things.

When the turtles are watching April on TV again Raphael and Leonardo start to argue. 3s are cut here as when Mike gets up to go to the kitchen you can see the nunchaku in his belt at the side.
More reframing as Mike and Don watch a Tortoise and Hare cartoon by 8s.

One of the longest cuts is more obvious. Its the movies first big fight scene and Raph has just been thrown though the skylight and a big fight with loads of Foot soldiers. 1s is substituted when one of the foot solders who has jumped though is armed with nunchaku. A nunchaku contest occuring between the foot solder and Mike is removed, 48s, A very funny scene leaving the UK version to look really stupid. More reframing cuts appear though out the fight every time Mike hits anyone with his nunchaku or can be seen with his nunchaku in the slightest. Also Don's joke with him about them not being game show fans is cut. This is due to Mike's nunchaku being in shot and also misses Mike's line about everyone liking the USA versions letter turner Vanna White. A another cut is when a foot solder tries to chop up Mike with an axe while he is still on the floor. The axe chops are there but the picture is reframed so as not to see the forbidden nunchaku in Mike's hand. Next more cuts when more foot solders drop though the skylight causing the floor to give in and then as the turtles get up after landing in the basement. The scene ends when Aprils apartment sets on fire and brings to an end a cutting spree that including the nonhuman contest was cut by 1:27s.

Not a cut but an interesting line by Tatsu Shedders minion. He says in all versions of the film "kurso" when Shedder is angry at him which I am sure is Japanese for edit.

Cuts when Casey Jones and April retreat to Aprils farm in the country. 3s of Mike's nunchuka whilst punching a punch bag in a barn. 8s of Mike using his nunchaku in training. The next cut is pathetic and is one to a bit of blatant advertising for turtle wax. April is being given a shoulder massage by Casey after she appears in pain in a scene that starts their romance. As soon as he starts the massage in the UK version it cuts to the next scene and misses a comic scene of 24s for no apparent reason.

Another cut occurs when Mike and Don attempt to eat some leftover pizza. In the UK version when Danny says they might be some leftover pizza Mike gets excited then it cuts to the next scene missing 17s of Mike and Don inspecting the pizza and asking". The only conclusion is that the BBFC didn’t get the joke about penicillin.

The next cuts occur during the final fight of the movie. The turtles use the hot steam from the sewer pipes to burn the foot solders a shot of a foot solder getting sprayed in the face is cut this is 2s. Then a shot from over head of all 4 turtles over the bodies of the foot soldier is cut as it shows Mike 2s of spinning his nunchaku. A 13s cut occurs to April helping Mike take out some foot solders from on top of a pipe with a stick and to him whacking some foot solders with his nunchaku. When Mike and Don are fighting foot solders back to back doing bad jokes 2 seconds are cut to remove sight of nunchaku and the line by Mike of goes with it also the sequence is reframed so you cant see Mike is hitting foot solders with his nunchaku . Then after the famous trailer line by Mike of “god I love being a turtle” 1s is cut to stop you seeing Mike hold up his nunchaku and laugh. On the roof 1s is cut from a exchange between Mike and a nunchaku welding foot solder.

The following cuts are disgusting as they change the end of the movie and ruin the final fight with Shedder. This fight is cut badly and looks crap due to the cuts. Mike and Don do rock, paper , scissors to see who goes next. Mike loses then spins his nunchaku and goes for Shedder then it cuts to the next scene. So 9s cut. Then when the action starts again on the roof 1s is cut to stop you seeing Mike spinning his nunchaku in the air as the turtles run towards Shedder. 5 seconds are cut next showing Mike fighting the Shedder and getting knocked over. This is annoying as Mike is made out to be an idiot in the cut version who doesn’t fight Shedder or anyone else. Now comes a crucial cut that alters the ending. Leo charges at Shedder and is brought down. Shedder then puts his blade to Leo’s throat and tells the Turtles to get rid of their weapons. They throw them off the roof but then a 1s cut occurs cutting out Mike’s Nonhuman getting caught on the ladder rung. This is a plot point for later that is missing from the UK version. Now Splinter arrives and Shedder takes his mask off revealing his scars from Splinter In the UK version as he charges at him 19s are cut. These are of Splinter using the Nonhuman of Mike’s from the ladder rung to wrap around the Shedder’s blade who he then slings over the edge. He then holds him there dangling but Shedder has reached a knife which he then throws at him which he catches but in doing so the nonhuman wrapped around the blade unravels dropping Shedder to his doom. Then Splinter finishes his sentence from before “Without honour”. The UK skips all this and makes it out that Splinter simply grabbed the blade and slung him over the edge where he simply dropped to his doom with out no tense dangling or final attack or dialogue from Splinter. However the fall in the UK version is from one single angle rather than 3 different ones. This cut really ruins the end of the film and lessons the danger to Splinter and the danger of Shedder.

The video is further cut as follows:

Michelangelo is on the phone ordering a pizza when Splinter is giving the turtles advice. When Splinter hears that he is not listening and is on the phone he throws a book at him and shouts Michelangelo. For some completely stupid reason known only to the BBFC the scene was now missing the book throwing which by the way was the tamest throwing of a book I have ever seen. Also missing was some of Michelangelo’s dialogue when he orders the pizza due to the fact you can clearly see his nunchaku as he is spinning them.

[Esteban - CotS]

I remember first hearing about these cuts only a few months ago, I knew I had a :nono: copy somewhere, as well as an old VHS version.

Comparing the two the other day was just hilarious. As melon farmers mention, Michaelangelo looks like an imbecile in the original UK ending...