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Hi,
Just watched Matchstick Men - fabulous I thought, and it got me thinking about which Ridley Scott films are missing from my collection.
I think basically its all the ones that haven't been given 'proper' releases (i.e. dodgy picture - Black Rain, from what I read, or no extras, like 1492).
Anyone have news on possible re-issues of his films? I'm being very patient over Blade Runner, and glancing at the shelf I have:
Someone to Watch Over Me
Blade Runner
Thelma and Louise
Hannibal
Gladiator
Legend
Alien
Matchstick Men
Which reminds me - what's the best version of Black Hawk Down to get again? ;)
Cheers,
A.
R3 superbit deluxe is the boy.
Cinemasia.net
21-03-2004, 00:48
still waiting for Blade Runner, but it probably won't happen.
There was an extended cut of Gladiator on TV. (The DVD has the theatrical cut, with deleted scenes on Disc 2.)
Best version of Black Hawk Down is the Superbit Deluxe Edition...
Panavision
21-03-2004, 10:38
Black Rain SE is planned for next year.
Originally posted by Cinemasia.net
There was an extended cut of Gladiator on TV.
:eek: When was this? I missed this!! What did it have?
Thanks,
Psycho :nuts:
Alien
Theres two theatrical cut releases with different commnetaries, 2 different directors cut's and 2 different discs of extras between the last 2 box sets + whatever was originally issued.
There can't be much more left !
Still - you can't have too much Alien
Cinemasia.net
21-03-2004, 23:11
Originally posted by mgb_dvd
different commnetaries
yeah, the new one is not as good as the old commentary. I liked the old commentary on my Alien: Special Edition of my previous Alien boxed set. You can't have too much Alien...
cherbert
22-03-2004, 09:23
So you haven't seen the Duellists then? :nono:
MarcusUK
22-03-2004, 09:38
Originally posted by Panavision
Black Rain SE is planned for next year.
Nice one :clap: Got anymore info?
"So you haven't seen the Duellists then?"
I assume that one was directed at me?
Er, no.. I haven't, but I hadn't forgotten it wasn't on the shelf!
Cheers,
A.
There's a good edition of 1492 available in R4.
Panavision
22-03-2004, 12:20
Originally posted by MarcusUK
Nice one :clap: Got anymore info?
No info, but it's being considered for sometime in 2005 by Paramount.
thomasc1982
25-08-2004, 11:59
No info, but it's being considered for sometime in 2005 by Paramount.
doh. just bought this too..ah well...
I am only missing one Ridley film now, 1492. Seems to be deleted on R1, sounds like a rerelease is needed.
Panavision
25-08-2004, 12:08
Ridley is one of the few directors out there who doesn't edit and cut the dvd extras to make him look good. Watch out for Spider-man 2 love-fest extras :( to see what the director has done to protect his image.
anephric
25-08-2004, 13:00
White Squall.
Yuck.
GI Jane.
Yuck.
All of them again in a couple of years I'm sure ;)
Taq
Tony Soprano
25-08-2004, 20:05
There is a 2 disc Blade Runner SE expected Early 2005. It just has a re-mastered high def print of DC and another disc with the CH4 MK docu and supposedly other goodies (definatly a 5.1 with a DTS being on my wishlist)
ghost of '82
25-08-2004, 22:18
I must admit to a soft spot for SOMEONE TO WATCH OVER ME. I'd like to see a Ridley commentary on that some day. Gorgeous visuals and a nice story, fine acting. Can't believe the same director would later debase himself with BLACK RAIN and GI JANE. Good grief, what was Ridley thinking?
anephric
25-08-2004, 22:28
I quite like Black Rain in a tacky, Greg-Allman croonin', Douglas' mullet a-blowin' way...
It's naff, yes, but enjoyably naff; and it has the great Takakura Ken in it... :notworthy
Garcia's decapitation by katana is genuinely still quite effective, even if the plot device necessitating it is crap...
balstino
07-02-2005, 16:25
Any news on Black Rain SE? :)
SeanValen
07-02-2005, 17:03
Black Rain SE is planned for next year.
Big fan of Black Rain, heard about the bad picture of current release, waiting for a better version.
ghost of '82
07-02-2005, 17:06
I can't believe anybody cares about BLACK RAIN. If ever Ridley did a film just to pay the bills, this was it.
anephric
07-02-2005, 17:12
It's better than GI Jane or White Squall... it has its moments... and Douglas's mullet is not to be underestimated.
And, of course, it features the inestimably great Takakura Ken. Reason One to own.
SeanValen
07-02-2005, 17:28
I can't believe anybody cares about BLACK RAIN. If ever Ridley did a film just to pay the bills, this was it.
Actually thought it was one of Michael Douglases best performances, and the hong kong actor was great, Andy Garcia was super as well, Scott's artisitic vision, cool soundtrack, buddy cop film, a well played realistic looking villain in Sato, a interesting look into Hong Kong darker elements in the way Tony Scott looked into Mexico in his film revenge. Sure Ridely has done better films, but even less the best ones beat other people best efforts.
Guess I'm alone in really liking "White Squall" then...
anephric
07-02-2005, 17:36
It picked up near the end but mostly I found it a trudge... and I'm all for Scott doing something that doesn't involve sandals, motorcycles, aliens or serial killers (I love The Duellists and I couldn't possibly count all the naysayers that cite that as being deathly dull) but White Squall just didn't do it for me.
I've only ever watched it the once though, on original rental release, so I could be persuaded to give it another chance.
SIMON ADEBISI
07-02-2005, 18:27
Guess I'm alone in really liking "White Squall" then...
You're not alone. I thought it was quite good as well. Id like to see 1492 as well. Good, nasty history lesson.
I don't know why but I found it incredibly moving. Might have been the mood I was in when I watched it, but I really enjoyed it.
Ditto for me! Really enjoyed White Squall.
SIMON ADEBISI
07-02-2005, 21:49
Just saw on IMDB that 1492 only got a PG13 rating in America!?! From what i remember it was a very violent movie. Headshots, bloody stabbings, arrows in faces, neck snappings etc. Did we get a different version than America?
DeadKenny
08-02-2005, 12:34
There is a 2 disc Blade Runner SE expected Early 2005. It just has a re-mastered high def print of DC and another disc with the CH4 MK docu and supposedly other goodies (definatly a 5.1 with a DTS being on my wishlist)
No chance on DTS, this is Warner we're talking about here ;)
From The DVD Talk Forum - Upcoming Re-Releases List (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=89464)...
Blade Runner (SE, TC?, DC?, Definitive DC, workprint?, COM [Scott]?, 3D?)
Some sort of release is coming in 2005, but it ain’t the BIG edition that is in Limbo due to legal issues. Maybe just a 2 disc set of the current DC. NY Times (12/13/2003): The avidly awaited, definitive version of Ridley Scott's science-fiction classic, "Blade Runner," won't be out on DVD anytime soon for stranger reasons. When "Blade Runner" was being shot in the early 1980's, Bud Yorkin, a veteran television comedy producer, and Jerry Perenchio, now the C.E.O. of Univision, were the film's bond-completion guarantors. When the film went over budget, by contract they assumed ownership of the film. Paul Sammon wrote in his book "Future Noir: The Making of `Blade Runner' " that they hated the film, had bitter disputes with Mr. Scott and tried to take it away from him altogether. The studio release, in 1982, contained superfluous narration and a tacked-on rosy ending. Mr. Scott removed both when he was allowed to make a "director's cut" in 1992, but it was, by his own account, a rush job. Three years ago, Mr. Scott announced that he was working on a three-disc box set, which would offer all the versions of the film, including a new and polished director's cut with previously unseen footage and scads of bonus features. Then, at the end of 2001, Warner Brothers, which was planning to distribute the discs, pulled the plug. It did so, according to a producer who worked on the project, because Mr. Perenchio gave no sign that he would let them be released. Mr. Perenchio, speaking through an assistant, had no comment on the situation."
balstino
08-02-2005, 12:44
Actually thought it was one of Michael Douglases best performances, and the hong kong actor was great, Andy Garcia was super as well, Scott's artisitic vision, cool soundtrack, buddy cop film, a well played realistic looking villain in Sato, a interesting look into Hong Kong darker elements in the way Tony Scott looked into Mexico in his film revenge. Sure Ridely has done better films, but even less the best ones beat other people best efforts.
Here, here, Douglas is so compelling. Black Rain is a cop film that deserves to be mentioned in a list such as The French Connection and To Live and Die in L.A. :thumbs:
I've got a soft spot for Dark Blue as well. :nuts:
There is a 2 disc Blade Runner SE expected Early 2005. It just has a re-mastered high def print of DC and another disc with the CH4 MK docu and supposedly other goodies (definately a 5.1 with a DTS being on my wishlist)
With all the legal squabbling over the DC after all these years I'll believe a BR:SE copy being released when one is being held in my hand & I see it with my own eyes. :dork: :nuts: :suspect:
DTS sound & Warner Brothers? Forget it mate.... :mad:
I'll settle for WB to get a decent copy out this time, with a WETA style cleanup of the print & 5.1 sound. Not too much to ask for is it :?: :brickwall :wave:
Ol' Blue Eyes
08-02-2005, 19:14
I love Black Rain. That and Tony's Days Of Thunder are the two films I'd most like to see redone with good anamorphic transfers. I'd also shell out for a White Squall and a better 1492 (the R4 is ok but a bit soft I thought). I think all the other Scott brothers films are now covered.
balstino
06-08-2005, 14:50
Any news on Black Rain people? :)
Actually thought it was one of Michael Douglases best performances, and the hong kong actor was great, Andy Garcia was super as well, Scott's artisitic vision, cool soundtrack, buddy cop film, a well played realistic looking villain in Sato, a interesting look into Hong Kong darker elements in the way Tony Scott looked into Mexico in his film revenge. Sure Ridely has done better films, but even less the best ones beat other people best efforts.
...ahem...It's Japan, dude. Not Hong Kong. :dork:
Quinnsey
06-08-2005, 21:30
Just saw on IMDB that 1492 only got a PG13 rating in America!?! From what i remember it was a very violent movie. Headshots, bloody stabbings, arrows in faces, neck snappings etc. Did we get a different version than America?
I think they went easy on it because of it's historical significance and the fact it came out on the anniversary of the events. Bit like giving Micheal Collins a PG in Ireland.
Any news on Black Rain SE? :)
Hey balastino, check out your sale/trade thread!
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238786
Couple of us have posted to it recently!
Deaks.
Behemoth
07-08-2005, 12:32
I just got the bare-bones R2 Black Rain cheap, and it's hands down the worst transfer I've ever seen of a big studio movie. I hope the SE comes out soon so I can chuck this one in the bin where it belongs.
Dan Druff
08-08-2005, 12:59
Black Rain was a terrible film, as was White Squall and GI Jane..1492 left a lot to be desired also, but excellent Vangelis score. Legend is complete rubbish but superb Goldsmith score. I seem to remember liking Someone To Watch Over Me but that was a long time ago..its Blade Runner, thats the classic..thats the DVD for me, hopefully in a spinner shaped case that plays "Home again, home again, jiggidy-jig!" every time it is opened.
Johnny Vodka
08-08-2005, 13:02
I can't believe anybody cares about BLACK RAIN. If ever Ridley did a film just to pay the bills, this was it.
IIRC it was better than Gladiator. ;)
Which reminds me - what's the best version of Black Hawk Down to get again? ;)
for extras, the R1 SE, for sound the R3 Superbit [check here] (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare3/blackhawkdown.htm)
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