View Full Version : I dream of the day ...
sideshowbob
19-03-2004, 12:59
... when Eastenders is but a dim and distant TV memory.
Between now and the same time next week, there will be 27 Eastenders programmes (actually, that's an underestimate ... because I've counted two whole days devoted to Eastenders as just two programmes).
Every year the TV license goes up. Every year, the proportion of programming taken up by drivel like Eastenders goes up in parallel. God only knows how much of the BBC budget is wasted on Eastenders. And of course because of the iniquitious TV license set-up, we can't vote with our feet anyway. Much as I'd love to.
Death to Walford.
It's probably (I don't watch it) better than dumbed down programmes such as Watchdog, Scam busters and that other one with the silly men on the motorbike which I imagine neds up and down the country consider entertainment :|
cjanderson
19-03-2004, 13:07
Originally posted by beaky
It's probably (I don't watch it) better than dumbed down programmes such as Watchdog, Scam busters and that other one with the silly men on the motorbike which I imagine neds up and down the country consider entertainment :|
But those are entertainment, you can see how really stupid some people are, and laugh at their misfortune.
No need to watch EE anyway, the tv guides will tell you what happens each week, so you can never watch it, i am currently totally up to date with what is happening, without ever seeing a single episode for years.
sideshowbob
19-03-2004, 13:07
Silly men on a motorbike? You sure you don't mean Two Fat Ladies? :D;)
Originally posted by cjanderson
But those are entertainment, you can see how really stupid some people are, and laugh at their misfortune.
I don't mind the content of the programmes, just the way they are done. They're so embarrassing to watch :o
cjanderson
19-03-2004, 13:50
Originally posted by beaky
I don't mind the content of the programmes, just the way they are done. They're so embarrassing to watch :o
live alone :thumbs: then no one knows your dirty little secrets.
I think the 2 men on the boke is rougue traders?
I don't have a TV licence for my flat for this very reason. Nothing but rubish on... (With a few exceptions)
It drives my girlfriend mad though, as she can't watch eastenders :oh-hum:
Originally posted by cjanderson
live alone :thumbs: then no one knows your dirty little secrets.
I think the 2 men on the boke is rougue traders?
Ah that's it :thumbs:
sideshowbob
19-03-2004, 14:06
I don't suppose I'd complain about Eastenders so much were it not for its presence on prime time TV pretty much every night of the week. Although spending license payer's money on it, irrespective of when it's on, is a waste in my book.
It's like the lamentable state of TV generally - Lottery programmes, Eastenders, Coronation Street, watchdog blah blah blah. All the intelligent or interesting material gets shunted to BBC 4 and other BBC digital only services, which is a further poke in the eye for the normal terrestrial viewer.
What amazes me is that some folks (most probably those on the Eastenders crew) made Greg Dyke out to be some sort of martyr when he left recently, but I say good riddance to Dyke and bring in someone who isn't going to let programming go to the dogs like he did.
It's about time we had a nuts and bolts review of the BBC and the TV license and injected some "public service" back into a broadcasting company that's become flabby, lazy and self-satisfied.
Perhaps we can topple them if we all claim for compensation for bladder complaints, caused by the lack of suitable advert breaks during programmes (a natural opportunity for pre-emptive leakage).
cjanderson
19-03-2004, 14:13
Originally posted by sideshowbob
I don't suppose I'd complain about Eastenders so much were it not for its presence on prime time TV pretty much every night of the week. Although spending license payer's money on it, irrespective of when it's on, is a waste in my book.
Ah, but its popular? 17 million or so people watch it each week, thats 1/3 of the population roughly.
so the BBC are fulfilling its objective of giving the public what they want.
Originally posted by cjanderson
so the BBC are fulfilling its objective of giving the public what they want.
But it's hardly the majority is it? ITV/Corrie can do those figures just as well yet they don't force us to pay for it.
In our day and age it's downright criminal to force people to pay for services they don't want and i bet a fair few of the UK population would dump BBC if it saved them over £100 a year.
Let those that want to watch 'Enders pay for it.
Originally posted by cjanderson
Ah, but its popular? 17 million or so people watch it each week, thats 1/3 of the population roughly.
so the BBC are fulfilling its objective of giving the public what they want.
Exactly right. I hate Eastenders but have no probelms with them showing it. What I do object to is the fact that quality programming is shoved on BBC4 with no chance of building a decent audience. That used to be the remit of BBC2 but sadly no longer.
Uncle Nick
19-03-2004, 14:56
Originally posted by sideshowbob
It's about time we had a nuts and bolts review of the BBC and the TV license and injected some "public service" back into a broadcasting company that's become flabby, lazy and self-satisfied.
What you need to do is vote with your feet. Sack the TV, and the license, then get a nice home theatre setup. You know, fancy DVD player, amp, speakers and maybe a projector with a big screen to match.
:thumbs:
Then when the good stuff comes out on DVD you're laughing. Mind you it con be even more expensive than the license... someone showed me a couple of episodes of Family Guy and Coupling, now I've had to buy all the discs. I cry foul...:cry:
sideshowbob
19-03-2004, 16:04
Originally posted by Uncle Nick
What you need to do is vote with your feet. Sack the TV, and the license, then get a nice home theatre setup. You know, fancy DVD player, amp, speakers and maybe a projector with a big screen to match.
:thumbs:
Then when the good stuff comes out on DVD you're laughing. Mind you it con be even more expensive than the license... someone showed me a couple of episodes of Family Guy and Coupling, now I've had to buy all the discs. I cry foul...:cry:
You know you've got a point, Nick.
I just don't want it anywhere near me. :D
You've got to remember that the British public are stupid and the tv companies etc know this.
jonathan.e
21-03-2004, 14:19
Whenever I’m unfortunate enough to catch a glimpse of EE I’m always reminded of Orwell’s 1984 where he writes of the fat proles pegging out their washing whilst humming the latest bland tune force-fed to them by the state apparatus to keep them passive and mindless.
However I think even Big Brother wouldn’t have been so evil as to force Shane [expletive deleted] Richie on his populace.
Originally posted by cjanderson
Ah, but its popular? 17 million or so people watch it each week, thats 1/3 of the population roughly.
so the BBC are fulfilling its objective of giving the public what they want.
I would love to know who these 17 million people are as i`ve just been thinking and i don`t know any relatives, friends or colleagues who watch it ?
I do however know plenty who watch Corrie !
I think EE is right up there with the news when it comes to depressing viewing :oh-hum:
ryonhilluk
21-03-2004, 15:29
I don't watch it but i have no problem with other people watching it. Its their time wasted...
Rollo Tomassi
21-03-2004, 22:48
Is it really 17 million people though, or is it 17 million "viewings" of Eastenders... as it's on four times a week that'll be more like 5m individual people.
cjanderson
22-03-2004, 10:59
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Is it really 17 million people though, or is it 17 million "viewings" of Eastenders... as it's on four times a week that'll be more like 5m individual people.
no, its 17 million (that might be a bit high at present, perhaps more like 11 million when the stories are not as hot) per episode.
the radio times shows how many people watch each show for the most popular shows
Where do they get these figures from? The same places where they interview 100 people, 70 say they like something, so 70% of the population must agree?
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Whenever I’m unfortunate enough to catch a glimpse of EE I’m always reminded of Orwell’s 1984 where he writes of the fat proles pegging out their washing whilst humming the latest bland tune force-fed to them by the state apparatus to keep them passive and mindless.
However I think even Big Brother wouldn’t have been so evil as to force Shane [expletive deleted] Richie on his populace.
:lol: Add to that big name sports, opulant commerce, "pop" music etc. and there really isn't much hope for people is there...
Originally posted by beaky
It's probably (I don't watch it) better than dumbed down programmes such as Watchdog, Scam busters and that other one with the silly men on the motorbike which I imagine neds up and down the country consider entertainment :|
Neds:mad:
The program is called Rogue Traders
How is watching Buffy or angel or any of those american making you any less of a NED:cuckoo:
Originally posted by andrewh
Neds:mad:
The program is called Rogue Traders
How is watching Buffy or angel or any of those american making you any less of a NED:cuckoo:
Some of those american shows engage the brain rather than disengage it...
*dribble* *dribble* gahhhh
ryonhilluk
22-03-2004, 13:29
Originally posted by andrewh
Neds:mad:
The program is called Rogue Traders
How is watching Buffy or angel or any of those american making you any less of a NED:cuckoo:
:oh-hum: :nono:
Oh god, BBC1 have a programme on this week about what David Beckham and Posh Spice would do if they lived in the middle ages. Presented by DIY SOS Nick Nowles and featuring posh and Becks lookalikes. More quality viewing for our licence fee!!
Originally posted by ryonhilluk
:oh-hum: :nono:
why, she was making out that someone migth be a ned just because they watch a program she isn't interested in, just defending myself thats all:)
sideshowbob
22-03-2004, 14:03
I don't even know what a ned is, much less worry if I am one or not. Is it an acronym?
Normally Eat Digestives? :)
Nightly Erectile Dysfunction?:o
Nasty Eastender-watching Dumb-ass :eek:
StuBruise
22-03-2004, 17:02
Originally posted by Robby
But it's hardly the majority is it? ITV/Corrie can do those figures just as well yet they don't force us to pay for it.
You pay for it if you buy Cadburys, though.
Besides, Corrie has the advantage of being good.
~~stu
True, but not everyone has too.
Besides, Chocolate is a necessity. ;)
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