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Official Site (http://www.codemasters.co.uk/tocaracedriver2/)
With up to an incredible 21 drivers on track at the same time, just trying to stay in contention can be challenge enough in TOCA Race Driver 2: The Ultimate Racing Simulator, but it gets tougher than that: Each of the AI (computer-controlled) drivers in the game has their own driving habits and characteristics and, if you force one of them off the track, they may even bear a grudge and spend the rest of the race out for revenge!
Mimicking human behaviour with extraordinary accuracy, all the AI drivers in TOCA Race Driver 2 possess different levels of ability and intensity. For example, some are better at late braking, some at outmanoeuvring other racers and some will pass you like you’re standing still. And, just like real-life racing drivers, the computer-controlled guys are prone to mistakes: they can spin off, collide with other vehicles, crash into barriers and deviate from the racing line. Human or Computer? You’ll be hard pushed to tell the difference.
Driver mind-sets also play an important role in the action: all the AI drivers can exhibit varying degrees of aggression, chasing you down on the straights, shutting you out around the bends and attempting risky overtakes. In Career mode, you have to beat specific drivers, all of whom possess their own, unique driving characteristics, so it pays to keep an eye on who does what.
So you’re going to need to do more than just drive like a demon to win in TOCA Race Driver 2 when it launches for PC and Xbox on April 23, complete with online play functionality for both formats. Get in the driving seat online at www.codemasters.co.uk/tocaracedriver2
Looks absolutely fantasticalicious. Love the TOCA games, this is on Live too (hopefully done well as I heard a fair bit of criticism over the last one). Damage is supposed to be class, as is AI. And all the different types of racing :eek:
Should be great, out on Xbox and PC - April 23 2004
Edit: List of car/race types:
Performance, Open Wheel, GP, DTM, V8 Supercars, Street Racing, Rally, Global GT Lights, Ice Racing, Rally Cross, Hot Rod, Convertible Racing, Formula Ford, Classic Cars, and Super Trucks
:D
People have this already so what are the first thoughts. I won't get my hands on this for a while :(
Back of the box (http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_backs/241495_back.jpg). Looks class.
I downloaded the PC demo last night and it's very pretty!
I could only use the keyboard arrows so it was a pain to control, it shows how much you take analogue control for granted for on the Xbox.
You could drive the E-Type Jag around Brands Hatch and an Ozzie V8 round Philip Island.
Brands seems to have shrunk in size since the first Xbox Toca game I played and the elevation changes on Philip Island were more in line with the MotoGp representations- eg more accurate.
The V8 was very slippery and I found it really easy to spin. Like the first Xbox Toca they have made it so you can't just floor the car from a standing start, again made difficult without analogue input.
I'll be getting this on Xbox and will be interested to 'feel' the controller feedback of the car on the road. PGR2 gives you a massive amount of feedback which give real weight to the car, I hope they come close to that on PRD2.
wasn't going to bother with this until I seen it on TV this morning.
I've only played the original Toca on PC and figured this was more of the same (Touring Cars) so I was suprised to see F1 cars amongst others in this movie, looked ace! :eek:
I notice the subtitle "the ultimate racing sim" I would have thought with so many racing styles it would have been more Arcadey, like PGR2, is it?
Playable demo (Live enabled) on Official Xbox mag next week :)
Originally posted by MrSpeed
Playable demo (Live enabled) on Official Xbox mag next week :)
Which comes out the day before the full game. :cuckoo: :D
Handy to have a play and decide if I want to buy though :)
That's what GAME are for. ;)
Maybe they just weren't ready to deliver the demo last month but if OXM had had the demo on the last issue I would have bought a copy. Now I've saved myself £6 so I shouldn't be complaining.
Originally posted by Morton
That's what GAME are for. ;)
:lol:
I subscibe to OXBM so not paying any extra out than I would do anyway.
Looking forward to giving this a go (especially on Live)
not only is it really nice too look at, it plays great aswell. (the demo anyway)
and the pc version is only £17.99 delivered on pre order from play!!!
Agreed, the PC demo is great - especially with a wheel.
I've been waiting for a decent PC driver since Rallisport Challenge & Colin McRae2 (didn't get on with 3 and the demo of 4 doesn't seem much better).
Multiplayer demo out now, I've not tried that yet, does it have different cars?
Cheers,
A.
Oh man this looks cool as cake I can't wait :D
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Oh man this looks cool as cake I can't wait :D
same here :thumbs: :clap: :thumbs: :notworthy
TheCookieMonster
16-04-2004, 19:02
Does anyone know if this supports content downloads?
Rather insanely, its called V8 Supercars Race Driver 2 in some regions abroad in case you look at foreign review sites :nuts:
Ooh, thought, I don't suppose this is cross platform multi-player is it?
Doubt it.. but it'd be nice if it was!
Cheers,
A.
Originally posted by AndyH
Ooh, thought, I don't suppose this is cross platform multi-player is it?
Pretty sure it isn't mate.
This game is hard. It just throws you right into a race as soon as you switch it on, needless to say I came 20th and saw more Donoughts then in our local Sayers.
It starts as it means to go on too, 3 races in and Im already behind the wheel of a F1 car. You can be in first place right up till the last corner, take it badly and you've lost because all the cars drive in one pack! :gag: this is not PGR2!
The graphics are fantastic and the career has a plot, rather then just getting a position on a table, which is nice.
as goblin said about being first then losing it. But i dont agree about the graphics being fantastic, merely normal or expected (xbox)
But all in all I think the physics model for this aint all that good, I got to the rally cars expecting it to be like McRae, since its the same developer, and was shocked to find it was completely different handling here too.
I dont like
AND I dont think theres ANY BTCC cars in it all. big no no from me
Good game for 20 quid maybe.
Roll on Rallisport Challenge 2 :clap:
Johnny
oh yeah, hit off other cars at the right angle and you get what to me seems like a power boost.... hmmm
OXB mag dropped through the letter box today with the playable demo on :D
Won't have time to go on it today though :cry:
Any one who got it today want to try out the Live play tomorrow afternoon ??
Managed to sneak an hour on it :D
Won the Mustang Challenge on my first go but spent all the tme in the Ford GT race trying to stay on the track. :brickwall
All looks very nice but I prefer more "arcadey" racers like Burnout.
Will have to rent it for a few nights to give it a better try.
Looking for my first 'driving' title for the X-box would this be the best choice or would PGR2 or another title be a better bet?
Originally posted by kjn6371
Looking for my first 'driving' title for the X-box would this be the best choice or would PGR2 or another title be a better bet?
PGR2 :thumbs:
yeah as much as Im enjoying this, I'd go with PGR2.
I too was dissapointed with the Rally section, it should have been like Colin McRae but its the same handling as a normal car on a Rally Track.
I have the Xbox version on order for £20 from Video Games Plus.
This game is right up my street! I love my racers to be hard and realistic otherwise its not a true test of driving skill..
I played PGR2 :gag: That is one horrid game! The AI is non existent, it runs at a pathetic 30 fps, the handling is so dumbed down its untrue, the colours a dull and murky, the cars have no details or reflections, the menus are confusing and ugly and it is sooooo boring. I thought GT3 could get boring, but at least it had depth to it. Rallisport Challenge and Moto GP are much better racers than PGR2 imo.
lol are you sure that was PGR 2 you were playing? ;)
Think you must have been playing a totally different game seb2. :lol:
30fps is pretty standard on most games.
Colours dark and murky? Same as every other game to me?
No details or reflections on cars?
Course not, except for the realtime reflections on every car. :brickwall
Oh dear.
Toca2 is ok, but there are a couple of better racers out there. Nothing comes close to PGR2 yet.
seb2 :oh-hum: you're :nuts: and you need :help:
Sabre UK
17-04-2004, 17:44
I've pre-ordered from gamesplanet for £28.99
This is best price I've come across.
I'm not sure the address of this 'video game plus' mentioned in this thread.
Seb, is that for the UK PAL version?
the videogamesplus one is a us ntsc version
No its the NTSC version.
Here is the address: http://videogamesplus.ca/
As for PGR2, I guess I don't like arcade racing games. I still think GT3 is better. There is more depth to the handling, it runs at 60 fps which makes a BIG difference when it comes to racing games and the cars look much better imo. In PGR2 it seems like they put all the effort into the environments and forgot about the cars!
I'm already fed-up of Toca 2.
32% into career mode and its pushed my patience too far, stupid unfair AI, one wrong corner and your hitting the restart button! :brickwall
Originally posted by Goblin
I'm already fed-up of Toca 2.
32% into career mode and its pushed my patience too far, stupid unfair AI, one wrong corner and your hitting the restart button! :brickwall
Don't blame the game cos you're crap mate no one likes a whiner ;)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Don't blame the game cos you're crap mate no one likes a whiner ;)
crap? I was quite impressed at reaching 32% :D
Originally posted by Goblin
crap? I was quite impressed at reaching 32% :D
:D
Does the AI work on a percentage slider or on preset difficulties mate? ie. Easy/Normal/Hard etc
msm13579
18-04-2004, 02:10
Originally posted by mattkbishop
:D
Does the AI work on a percentage slider or on preset difficulties mate? ie. Easy/Normal/Hard etc
i read somewhere that it gets better as you get better like in gpl, cant confirm if its true or not though :searchme:
Originally posted by Goblin
I'm already fed-up of Toca 2.
32% into career mode and its pushed my patience too far, stupid unfair AI, one wrong corner and your hitting the restart button! :brickwall
Apparently some of the yanks over at xblracing.com have mentioned you can buy a code from Codemasters to unlock the game. I think it's $5, not sure how much it will be for us - the details are on the back of the game manual.
I'm considering doing this as I only really want to play it on-line, instead of playing AI I want to play real intelligence - or lack thereof! ;)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Does the AI work on a percentage slider or on preset difficulties mate? ie. Easy/Normal/Hard etc
Its probably what msm13579 said above, as I never noticed any difficulty settings.
Originally posted by Morton
Apparently some of the yanks over at xblracing.com have mentioned you can buy a code from Codemasters to unlock the game. I think it's $5, not sure how much it will be for us - the details are on the back of the game manual.
I'm considering doing this as I only really want to play it on-line, instead of playing AI I want to play real intelligence - or lack thereof! ;)
but wheres the fun in cheating ;)
50% through now :clap:
I've gave up playing it when I got to the rally stages.
"Most Unrealistic Sim Ever" should be their slogan
Was always a big fan of the BTCC Toca games so i'm sorry to see it slide IMO
Johnny
Has it still got the truck racing??
Originally posted by Stuee
Has it still got the truck racing??
Yep.
Originally posted by Stuee
Has it still got the truck racing??
yep one of the bits i was looking forward to but they too heavy. The formula ford cars have been the best for me.
Truck racing is rubbish, really sluggish but I guess thats to be expected! :D
My copy arrived this morning from Tronix and I must say I'm impressed. Certainly a tricky game. Will be interesting to see just how bad I am when XBL comes back online later.
Mm, wonder if Play will get this shipped out so it'll arrive tomorrow... I fear not!
(PC version I'm on about)
Does it actually have F1 cars, or just Formula Ford cars?
Also, is there any way to get 4 player multiplayer, or just a plain 1v1 multiplayer split screen - no AI?
Got this today and I have to say, it's bloody good.
At first, I thought "Ahhh this sucks" as it chucks you into the last few corners of Laguna Seca in an intro style. That sucked IMO.
Then you have a few races, you gradually learn the styles/handling of different cars etc. You have to brake properly and efficiently for corners, you can spin very easy, take damage is a real hindrance too.
For racing fans this seems a must IMO, but it'll be lost on the casual racer. Should be able to perfectly compliment PGR2, rather than be "the new PGR".
btw It's Formula Fords, not F1 cars.
This is absolutely class on Live. 5 hours straight last night, some brilliantly close races, you do need to race with people you know/people who respect other drivers, and won't purposely ram you off the track. Different vehicles leads to really different types of racing as well. Very impressed with it :)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
This is absolutely class on Live. 5 hours straight last night, some brilliantly close races, you do need to race with people you know/people who respect other drivers, and won't purposely ram you off the track. Different vehicles leads to really different types of racing as well. Very impressed with it :)
but using the opponents car is the best way to take corners! ;)
I agree, playing online is great. Anyone here interested in setting up a DVDForums server?
I aint doing too well on the career-mode so far. Stuck on 8%
Originally posted by TonyG
I agree, playing online is great. Anyone here interested in setting up a DVDForums server?
I aint doing too well on the career-mode so far. Stuck on 8%
How do you mean mate? Pretty sure you can't do a dedicated server on Toca, did you mean a DVDF room hosted and just with DVDF people?
Looks like I'm gonna have to get this soon, everyone seems to have deserted PGR2 for it!
Originally posted by M@rtin
Looks like I'm gonna have to get this soon, everyone seems to have deserted PGR2 for it!
Yep you'll have to mate. Tbh it seems like people are either loving it or hating it. Personally I love it, I like the track racing and races being so based on concentration and perfection - one nudge can send you flying. It was totally class the other night playing it with a bunch of guys with respect on the track, you were all racing proper trying to get past but with fear of hitting the other person as you're not deliberately trying to send them flying. Of course there are a number of morons on it but in my experience they soon get kicked, as do (server dependant) those taking shortcuts.
Wouldn't say it's better than PGR2 nor worse, as it's a different sort of racing game attracting a different market IMO. Top stuff though :) :thumbs:
DarthPearce
26-04-2004, 11:08
I thought this was going to be a bit too easy as I'd complete 26% of the career mode in the first 3 hours but the difficulty level is slowly ramping up. The poor rally stages aside, I think it's more fun than PGR2 and takes more skill to win a race.
You have to use the analog acceleration a lot more on the starts tha in PGR2, so getting off the line quickly is more of a challenge. AI is quite good but it's seems one minor shunt will damage the car quite badly.
Gets a big thumbs up from me.:)
BEWARE - CHEAT CODE WORKS ONLINE
I was really enjoying this until I went on-line against my closest PGR2 rival. He absolutely creamed me, anywhere from 3-7 seconds a lap faster.
He explained it away with "It's all about car setup".
So off I go to read upon on car setup and I find that one of the cheat codes works on-line - FWD/RWD obtained by buying the codes from codemasters. Basically 4 wheel drive.
I haven't spoken to him today so can't confirm that's why he was so fast but it seems reasonable.
From a standing start on the grid, he was behind me, he got 2 car lengths ahead of me before I'd reached 20mph and my start wasn't THAT bad. Tire and gear choice weren't an option for that race and I find it hard to believe Suspension, Anti-roll and downforce made such a difference within 30 feet.
This on-line code useage and a patch to fix it have been confirmed by Codemasters. See links for details.
<a href="http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=421935#post421935">Codemasters Forum - RFT: People are claiming you can take the codes online on the Xbox version!</a>
<a href="http://forums.xbox.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=7170946">Xbox Forums </a>
Also check out OneBadHuskerFan's post half way down the page. xblracing.com (http://www.xblracing.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22134&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)
Has anyone played rallisport challenge 2 yet. :suspect:
If so, how does it compare?
Hmmm people will prolly claim I'm using the code - my starts on DTMs totally rock. Hard.
Live with this is supertastic. Good news on the patch, and the patch for the corner cutters.
Originally posted by damell
Has anyone played rallisport challenge 2 yet. :suspect:
If so, how does it compare?
A few people here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=270239&highlight=rallisport) have :)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
A few people here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=270239&highlight=rallisport) have :)
ahh so they have. I have to learn to search :thumbs:
Think i'll go for rallisport :D
Originally posted by mattkbishop
How do you mean mate? Pretty sure you can't do a dedicated server on Toca, did you mean a DVDF room hosted and just with DVDF people?
Yeah, that's wot I mean. Glad to hear there is a patch to sort out the cheats that cut corners/chicanes & the morons that think it's funny driving the wrong-way, right from the beginning. (Although I do admit to giggling the first time I saw someone reverse into the guy behind him, on the starting-grid) :D
That sounds good mate there's too many dicks online. You need a room with all people agreeing on not driving back onto the track into traffic, cutting corners, and where you can block but not push off the road.
Sabre UK
26-04-2004, 16:00
I'm going to play later, anyone interested?
Yeah I'll try and make it mate, may not be able to though, work and all that :(
Sabre UK
26-04-2004, 16:18
They should let you sign in and play the career mode like on PGR2. I like to play offline while waiting for people and if you do, then you are not listed as online.
I'll be online from 8pm onwards tonight. What's your username, Sabre? ... Mine is FlyingScotsman35 :)
Sabre UK
26-04-2004, 16:22
Originally posted by TonyG
I'll be online from 8pm onwards tonight. What's your username, Sabre? ... Mine is FlyingScotsman35 :)
It's Sabre UK. Add me and I'll play you. Should be on around 8.30 or there abouts.
Cant you set a password system on the server so only people who know the password can get in??
Originally posted by Sabre UK
It's Sabre UK. Add me and I'll play you. Should be on around 8.30 or there abouts.
Uh Oh! ... u playing this on Xbox Live? ... It's the PC version i'm running. :|
D'oh!
Xbox Live is what all the cool cats play mate, you need to get it.
Sabre UK
26-04-2004, 17:51
I'm playing on Xbox mate. Join us...you know you want to :)
Originally posted by Sabre UK
I'm playing on Xbox mate. Join us...you know you want to :)
You cannot resist the Dark Side..! Buy an xbox you will ;)
Sorry Sabre I wasn't on till about 11 ish....
Bloody amazing racing tonight. Top game. I'm so gonna fail Uni.
I'm gonna be hosting Toca tonight, apparantly my Uni connection is super awesome for Live, hopefully around 10ish so if you see me on feel free to join if you don't get an invite - I may not see you. Basically, we play a variety of championships, most often DTM.
1. No deliberate shunting. If someone is side by side you can rub gently, no pushing off the track.
2. The leader has priority. If you're behind and catching it's up to you to make the move, the leader can't always see you. Bear this in esp when braking into hairpins - the chaser may have to brake first. If you're on the inside, please make sure you are taking the inside line all through the bend as not to cut it and slice anyone on the racing line.
3. No cutting corners. If you're on your own on a section, please regulate yourself. Sometimes it's unavoidable. If you gain a place by doing this, please slow to let that person regain their place.
4. People being lapped should be warned by people lapping, and asked to move to a specific side of the track, and slow to let them pass if it's feasible.
5. Accidents will happen, it's inevitable. If you shunt someone please apologise.
6. People who spin are asked to check and wait for vacant space on the track before pulling back on. Do not pull back into traffic, you may have to wait till they've passed. Use your map/mirror. Obviously sometimes you will spin on the track/in front people and that can't be helped. If so you're asked to please get off the track ASAP, and turn round before pulling back onto the track.
7. Be aware of everyone on the starting grid/first corner. If you need to slow down to avoid a crash then please do so. Do not think you can shunt people out of the way. Of course in cases of slow starters and other events this can't be helped. Don't bitch at slow starters for being "crap" or "noobs". We all started sometime.
In most cases where two or more people see an incident and agree on it being a clear infringement, a warning will be given. Once a person is kicked, they'll usually keep getting kicked if they keep returning.
That's what we've been playing mostly, it's worked excellent so far when people abide them. People that shunt deliberately and cut corners are almost always kicked ASAP.
my copy should arrive today, is this game online for the pc aswell?
really looking forward to this. might even get the ff steering wheel out of the garage!
It is online for the PC, but it isn't cross-platform online :(
Is great with a wheel.. actually its great with a PS2 pad too!
I'll host a private game tonight for people, got a few people on NTSC UK interested anyways, around 10pm ish. Tag is in sig for those people that don't have it.
Dammit, if only Amazon did sameday deliveries... Had a go of the "offline" version last night and it's pretty cool, but now I want to race against people!
My copy wont arrive till tomorrow (amazon shipped today), so will have to keep an eye out on this thread :)
msm13579
27-04-2004, 15:56
WOW
just arrived and ime well pleased, this game has restored my faith in codemasters. its brilliant. The seat's are great to drive and its got my old favorite track from indy car racing 2. and it works with the ff wheel (not the best ff but good and it works unlike cmr3 or trd1). i even quite liked the rallying. now i have to stop playing it for a week to do work, annoying.
:D :clap: :notworthy
Sod work mate it's not worth it.
Just a bump for people for tonight. Got quite a few people interested from over at NTSC UK so should be top :)
Sabre UK
27-04-2004, 18:10
Should be on tonight myself. Not tomorrow though as I have a new shiny PDA arriving so have to got that to play with. :D
msm13579
27-04-2004, 18:22
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Sod work mate it's not worth it.
good point ;)
Retronana
27-04-2004, 18:43
I could be up for this tonight :)
Looks like it will be first come first served as quite a few could be up for this.
Retronana - my Tag is in my Sig. I'll invite everyone I see online when I set up the room :)
Retronana
27-04-2004, 18:54
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Looks like it will be first come first served as quite a few could be up for this.
Retronana - my Tag is in my Sig. I'll invite everyone I see online when I set up the room :)
I'll add you to my friends list :)
Originally posted by Retronana
I'll add you to my friends list :)
Ok Friend!!! http://www.partyboyusa.co.uk/images/billy1.gif :D
I ordered this from Amazon earlier but then went out and saw it at Toysrus for £39.99 which includes a Saitek steering wheel, so couldn't resist :) I'll now end up with two copies as I can't cancel the Amazon one..! Been out all night so haven't had a chance to try online yet, but be warned!!! ;)
Where was everyone then? Eh?
I invited everyone I saw online, Frumper/Morton you got in but left mate. Shame you didn't say. Had 10 racers at peak, all racing fairly and competitively, absolutely class racing action.
The 10 Race DTM Championship ended with the top scores,
63, 61, 61, 59, 55 (me), 53, 42, 21. (only 8 stayed for the end race to get the final results, the lowest scorer only did half).
Brilliant stuff. Project what now? :D
I might play this tomorrow, no one wants to play SC2 anymore :( Knowing my luck I'll get into this and then everyone will move on to the NBT.:suspect:
EDIT: post number 10,000 :thumbs:
You've got this??? :o
It's the bomb mate when you get a race with people who actually use their brakes and race fair. Fantastic!
Originally posted by mattkbishop
You've got this??? :o
no, I'd have to borrow it. I find most cosole racers too sim-y where as I prefer a more arcadey experience. But I might give it a go. I've own Toca 1 but there's no Live on that.
twicenightly
28-04-2004, 07:54
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Where was everyone then? Eh?
Got your invite, thanks, but unfortunately I haven't got this game yet. I might get it as everyone is saying it's very good, but I played the demo on the Xbox mag and it seemed very "simmy"?
I was getting thrashed by Uridium on PGR2 at the time (I was terrible last night :( )
(said in a small voice from the back)
Did some online PC Toca last night.. it was great!!! Land rovers are mad :)
(sits down again and is quiet amongst all the XBox live people)
Originally posted by twicenightly
I might get it as everyone is saying it's very good, but I played the demo on the Xbox mag and it seemed very "simmy"?
Originally posted by gta15
"Most Unrealistic Sim Ever" should be their slogan
I wouldn't class it as an Arcade racer but its not full-on-simulation either.
Bapapapa
28-04-2004, 08:50
Originally posted by AndyH
(said in a small voice from the back)
Did some online PC Toca last night.. it was great!!! Land rovers are mad :)
(sits down again and is quiet amongst all the XBox live people) I used to race in a TOCA 2 Wireplay league on the PC and it was fantastic - much better than all this console crap... :D
started playing the PC version last night, when using my ps2-like pad the analogue controllers don't work in analogue, only digital. this leads to loosing lots of speed round corners.
anybody else having this problem?
also it looks fantastic. what res and options have you found useable?
Hi,
I'm using an actual PS2 pad with a USB converter, no problems with analogue controls, sorry. Vague thought.. in the controller set up have you got it using the correct axis for left / right?
I find sometimes on my PS2 pad when I set the controls that due to the sensitivity, it sometimes takes forwards (y-axis) as left :)
As for resolution -
AthlonXP 1700+ with 9800Pro - 1024x768 with everything maxed (I think it could also do 1280x1024 without breaking a sweat, must try).
You've reminded me - there is a big thread over at the Codemasters forums about how the game DISABLES FSAA when you start a race. There is a "workaround", but its pants. Hopefully they'll patch it soon.
Cheers,.
A
cheers AndyH
i have the controls setup right as the d-pad works ok. i will try to mess tonight.
if you have everything maxed at 1024x768 running fine, i might give it a try and push it a bit. (running an athlon64 3200+ and a radeon 9800pro)
Originally posted by twicenightly
Got your invite, thanks, but unfortunately I haven't got this game yet. I might get it as everyone is saying it's very good, but I played the demo on the Xbox mag and it seemed very "simmy"?
I was getting thrashed by Uridium on PGR2 at the time (I was terrible last night :( )
No worries mate. Um it's more "Sim" that PGR2, in that you need to brake well in advance for corners and respect the other people a lot more.
LordoftheDance
28-04-2004, 12:25
Have this on the PC too - great game!
Are the PC guys meeting online for a game tonight also, or is it just the X-boxers? :confused:
I have a similar problem too, using a PS2 controller via USB on my PC. Using any of the buttons for accelertate, results in analogue results rather than digital. I'm considering using the right-hand analogue-stick to act as the accelerator instead but it's going to take a lot of practise i imagine.
Originally posted by LordoftheDance
Have this on the PC too - great game!
Are the PC guys meeting online for a game tonight also, or is it just the X-boxers? :confused:
Um the Xboxers were last night mate :)
If I can do tonight then it won't be until well after 11pm, and I might fall asleep :)
TonyG - what do you mean by analogue results when using the buttons for accelerate? Don't think I'm having that problem..
Cheers,
a.
If you PC lads want me to change the thread title to "PC game at xxpm" or whatever, let me know :)
So, what are the reasons for not having cross platform online?
Is there actually something technical (doubt it), or is it wanting to keep the X-Box Live service ring fenced for marketing type reasons?
I guess they'd struggle to replicate the "your mate is wanting a race while you're supposed to be working on your word document" functionality without having a standard client app running which you'd log in with your Gamespy account, but I'm sure its all possible.
A.
I suspect it's due to the fact that every PC is likely to run the game different and could cause lag on Live? Or perhaps a conflict with PCs and the XBox Live Architecture.
Yeah, could be a point, am I right in thinking the X-Box Live service has a fairly reasonable supporting infrastructure while PC types are expected to sort hosting and stuff for themselves?
I don't know much about what GameSpy does, other than hold a centralised DB of accounts and ranking?
Is it possible on the PC (or 'box for that matter) to look up players and rankings, is there even a list of global player rankings anywhere?
msm13579
28-04-2004, 13:10
anyone whos played this online on the pc played over a dial up connection? is it a waste of time? might try it at some point.
also wondered if the xbox version has 4 player split screen?
ta :)
Xbox is only 2 player split mate sorry.
msm13579
28-04-2004, 13:45
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Xbox is only 2 player split mate sorry.
shame, probably just due to lack of time, better they get the handling and stuff right than mess about with split screen i suppose. thanks for the reply :)
I don't think there's a crossplatform online game yet. They're working on it I think so that PC owners can log on to live although I don't know if they'd need to pay for it. Also with the new server thing that allows publishers to run their own servers it might be crossplatform.
Sounds good camaj, any details of this online anywhere?
I *think* there are cross platform PS2 / PC titles, but probably only one or two. If memory serves it might be on of the EA Sports titles.. I recall it mentioned in Games(tm)
Cheers,
A.
Take a look at the EA announcement on xbox.ign.com I can't remember where I read it though, I might have imangined it somehow
got a bit of a strange problem on the pc version. every so often the sound goes a bit wierd, lasts for a few seconds/minutes then goes back to normal.
occasionally this happens for a while and the pc shuts down.
haven't had this problem with any other games,
anybody else suffering?
(i'm using a sb audigy)
I have two audio problems on the PC, one major, one minor
-Minor: I get quiet "clicking" during the FMV scenes. I *think* this is a known problem and solved by a command line switch (See Codemasters forums / readme file).
- Major: If I run Windows Media in the background for some driving "choons", occasionally the PC blue screens and reboots :)
I *think* this is happening at a track change (music, not driving!!), but its random, it can go through hundreds of tracks before it happens. Is definately a soundblaster driver which is causing the exception though.
Perhaps you could try knocking down the sound quality slider, or turn off environmental audio?
A.
PS Its brilliant to be able to change music tracks using the keyboard, if you have one of those keyboards with media type buttons
the sound glitch is clicking and whirring, so i will have a look at the codemasters forum. thanx
i don't have the music turned on (never liked music in games, even GTA VC etc)
Bapapapa
29-04-2004, 11:19
Originally posted by camaj
I don't think there's a crossplatform online game yet. They're working on it I think so that PC owners can log on to live although I don't know if they'd need to pay for it. Also with the new server thing that allows publishers to run their own servers it might be crossplatform. Quake3 on the DC.. :dork:
Originally posted by belly
the sound glitch is clicking and whirring, so i will have a look at the codemasters forum. thanx
i don't have the music turned on (never liked music in games, even GTA VC etc)
I couldn't find the Codies forum.... maybe I was being daft.
msm13579
29-04-2004, 12:22
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/
:)
This game has just popped through my letterbox :D
Roy Munson
01-05-2004, 09:22
Not read the entire thread...sorry if some of this has already been said:
I have the PC version and have my Xbox controller setup for the PC. The control is great. It feels exactly like Toca Race Driver does on my Xbox, analogue triggers and sticks included....my current Xbox pad drivers dont seem to support feedback though. Unfortunately this does feel curiously 'numb'
The graphics at 1280 x 1024 look fantastic, BUT anti-aliasing doesnt work with some ATI cards...including my 9800 Pro :cry: So its a mixed bag for me. I think I may buy the Xbox version today...it'll be lower res, but hopefully will be anti-aliased, or at least will look 'softer' on a TV. Force feedback is essential to a driving game too. Plus it'll be more fun on Live?
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Plus it'll be more fun on Live?
Oh yes :D
100% completed career mode today. Very impessed, liked the cutscene, great game.
Final championship wasn't as hard as the penultimate, I won't spoil what the final one is but it was bloody good fun :D
Only a week to do, but I've played about 5 hours a day on it :nuts: :dork:
Originally posted by Bapapapa
Quake3 on the DC.. :dork:
NFSU?
Quick Question....
what is in the "SKU.INI" file on the root of the DVD for the "toca" branded version?
mine has
[SKU]
SKU = AUS
and it comes up (obviously) with the V8 supercars branding
Originally posted by mattkbishop
100% completed career mode today. Very impessed, liked the cutscene, great game.
Final championship wasn't as hard as the penultimate, I won't spoil what the final one is but it was bloody good fun :D
Only a week to do, but I've played about 5 hours a day on it :nuts: :dork:
well done ... I think I managed about 58%, haven't played it since. The cutscenes were great, best part of the career imo.
There's a thread at the Codemasters forum about anti-aliasing on the PC version.
There is a workaround to enable it (bit pants though), and the game seems to run fine with it enabled, so hopefully Codemasters will release a proper patch.
You can see it being disabled during the track loading screen on the cross-continent line.
Cheers,
A.
msm13579
02-05-2004, 19:34
just had one race online 56k - no point, oh well :( also completed 100% :) shame you cant race any car on any track :( and the pro sim mode isnt as good as hoped, the only way i could keep up with the gt lights on a high difficulty setting involved lots of powerslides, that cant be right :confused:
Sorry guys for bailing on the Championship earlier, Uni connection was playing up, everything was lagging like a bitch for me, but I was annoying at a few total dicks who claim it's ok to cut corners as "everyone does it". Hardly in the spirit of the game. So rather than wait for the lagginess to subside I waited for the game to end then quit. People just ruin the game totally, I moaned at that one bloke and I get the everyone does it excuse.
Oh that's alright then :oh-hum: :rolleyes:
Think I'll wait for the patch before I go back on Toca.
Yeah, have to admit I was starting to get a little annoyed with the online play on the w/end (PC version).
Not too sure what you can do about it though..
Whats the patch going to be? U get kicked if you cut more than 1 corner??
So much road rage on this game :nuts: :D
cutting corners makes for a more competetive race. :D
and if it wasn't allowed then Codemasters should've had the cars slow down on leaving the track.
Originally posted by Goblin
cutting corners makes for a more competetive race. :D
and if it wasn't allowed then Codemasters should've had the cars slow down on leaving the track.
Yeah that makes sense :cuckoo:
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Yeah that makes sense :cuckoo:
well thats the way I played career mode, if I was lagging behind and had to overtake then a nicely timed cut of a corner with a whack into the opponents car helped. ;)
is this game only dvd ? which version is on gamesplanet.co.uk dvd or cd ?
msm13579
04-05-2004, 21:19
Originally posted by KiNG
is this game only dvd ? which version is on gamesplanet.co.uk dvd or cd ?
mine was a DVD from gamesplanet
cutting corners is fine against the evil computer, but against people its not really on. personally i recon its hard to draw a line on whats cheating and whats not, maybe you shouldnt be allowed all your wheels off the track at the same time? but i do that on the first corner of the surfers paradise track so am i cutting the corner :confused: as ime still on the concrete???
mikthe20
04-05-2004, 21:27
I agree on the cutting corners thing - totally spoils the online experience for me - what's the point of having a track if people don't race on it? Codemasters really should have made going off-piste have a penalty, such as slowing the car more. I was so-o-o looking forward to playing this online pending GT4, but there are far too many idiots online to make it a proper race experience. Shame.
stantheman
04-05-2004, 21:53
Originally posted by msm13579
just had one race online 56k - no point, oh well :( also completed 100% :) shame you cant race any car on any track :( and the pro sim mode isnt as good as hoped, the only way i could keep up with the gt lights on a high difficulty setting involved lots of powerslides, that cant be right :confused:
You can race any car on any track through Xbox Live. You need to be hosting of course, but it is possible.
Can't remember how at the mo, I'm sure its on some forum somewhere. (Something about going back into the settings menu)
But have played Formula Fords on ovals and rally tracks in other peoples rooms. (So it can be done):dork:
Originally posted by msm13579
mine was a DVD from gamesplanet
How long does gamesplanet take to deliver ?
Originally posted by stantheman
You can race any car on any track through Xbox Live. You need to be hosting of course, but it is possible.
Can't remember how at the mo, I'm sure its on some forum somewhere. (Something about going back into the settings menu)
But have played Formula Fords on ovals and rally tracks in other peoples rooms. (So it can be done):dork:
Yep it's possible. It's totally nuked the Scoreboards though now, as you have to race the Master Class cars on all the tracks to compete with the times. Another quality feature spoiled by morons.
Oddly you don't have this problem on Moto GP2, you try cutting a corner, either you have to mega slow for it or you fall off your bike. Codies should of anticipated it, I'm thinking I might just swap it for Rallisport now.
msm13579
05-05-2004, 00:46
Originally posted by KiNG
How long does gamesplanet take to deliver ?
not sure normally, first time i ordered and it was delivered tew? or wed? after the relese date on the friday the week before. so doesnt seem to be that quick. hopefully they will have fixed all the online problems by the time i get a decent connection and/or live :) no one will be playing it in 5 years though :(
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Yep it's possible. It's totally nuked the Scoreboards though now, as you have to race the Master Class cars on all the tracks to compete with the times. Another quality feature spoiled by morons.
Oddly you don't have this problem on Moto GP2, you try cutting a corner, either you have to mega slow for it or you fall off your bike. Codies should of anticipated it, I'm thinking I might just swap it for Rallisport now.
You don't have this problem on MGP2 precisely because you do fall over, you do slow down and it adds time to your lap.
I'm not suggesting TOCA should add time when you touch the grass but it should definitely slow you down more, especially if you have all four wheels on the grass.
Also dissappointing are cuts like the Nurburgring chicane - that was so blatantly going to get cut I'm really suprised they didn't do something to prevent it.
I wouldn't swap it though, if you enjoy the racing and don't tolerate 'cutters' then it's fine. Besides, I'm sure Rallisport will suffer similar problems.
fanmeister
05-05-2004, 11:11
Bought this at the weekend, and still a bit mixed over my thoughts...
I'm 32% through the career mode or whatever, but yet to try on-line.
Looks like I will have to have a pop tonight.
I found cutting corners was a problem, and usually led to a spin in single player. Perhaps I am not cutting them well enough?:rolleyes:
Didn't like the off road stuff, andagree with a few others on here, The single seaters and SEAT cupra's are the best for me so far.
Do you have to unlock the other cars in a class by completing the career mode?
X-Box live tag : Alfie Bass
Originally posted by Morton
You don't have this problem on MGP2 precisely because you do fall over, you do slow down and it adds time to your lap.
I know that's what I said :D
Adding time just adds to your laptime though, it won't cost you a position if you run a total of say 3.30 and person behind is 3.28 doesn't it?
All they need to do in Toca is make sure when you get it slightly more than the rumble strips you get a forced spin. They can't put in invisible walls as that defeats the point.
I've caned the single player to 100% and no point in going for lap times since the Scoreboards are dead. Online it's fine saying don't tolerate cutters but aside from booting them (identifying them first is a pain) you can't do much. More people join, when I'm hosting I seem to spend half the time kicking people, it makes for crap fun when they're playing silly buggers in a Championship, I have to pause and kick them so they don't take the points and ruin it.
Either way I might try hosting after Frasier tonight if people are interested.
I don't think Rallisport will have this problem, on the first game cutting corners (kinda the point in a rally game to an extent) too bad meant you went onto a rougher surface and went slower.
Originally posted by fanmeister
I found cutting corners was a problem, and usually led to a spin in single player. Perhaps I am not cutting them well enough?:rolleyes:
Do you have to unlock the other cars in a class by completing the career mode?
X-Box live tag : Alfie Bass
If you want to race the other cars, then you have to go to Simulation (free race) mode and win each race in the championship on the required difficulties. Soon as you unlock a class though you can host anything in it online.
Cutting corners - just take a straight line and hold off the gas. Easy. Tbh if you need to cut corners to make it through Championship it's defeating the point really and you should question why you bought a track racing game since you're a lamer :p (not you personally)
Matt, do you know the scoreboards are being reset after the patch?
Here's what' being patched.
"Adjustable end of race time out.
Personal best time message.
Better network prediction (improves lag situations).
FWDRIVE cheat has been disabled in the on-line mode.
Stats not counted if you've disabled damage.
A few cheating situations resolved (not shortcuts though), e.g. Pausing game advantage when playing on-line.
Rating problem where ratings could get trashed has been resolved.
Various Live bugs have been resolved."
Not sure if you'll still be able to race any car/any track though.
Good that the stats are getting reset. But.....
"A few cheating situations resolved (not shortcuts though), "
Stupid ************ that's the thing that needs patching most!
"Not sure if you'll still be able to race any car/any track though."
If they don't fix that why bother reseting the scoreboards :confused:
Bloody Codemasters get a grip :oh-hum:
Edit: Where did you get that info from?
One of the Codemasters people (RFT) over on the Xblracing forum - posted in the TOCA 2 forum.
He does also say;
"sadly, with corner-cutting, there's nothing we can do with just an executable patch. to fix the some of the cutting would require big data changes."
lol, I didn't realise cutting corners was such a big deal! :searchme:
This games hardly a good simulation, so people are bound to take a more Arcade approach when racing.
Don't have the game but every single racing game I've played slows a car down if you try driving off course. I can't understand why anyone would release a game where it was possible to cut corners :cuckoo:
Originally posted by camaj
I can't understand why anyone would release a game where it was possible to cut corners :cuckoo:
well the cars do slow-down and if your going too fast you will skid out of control but they have been pretty forgiving for a so-called Simulator.
Originally posted by Morton
One of the Codemasters people (RFT) over on the Xblracing forum - posted in the TOCA 2 forum.
He does also say;
"sadly, with corner-cutting, there's nothing we can do with just an executable patch. to fix the some of the cutting would require big data changes."
Pah what a waste of a release then. A massive error IMO with the programming of such a game, it's supposed to be a serious racing game. Sadly, serious races on it are killed by all the huge amount of jokers, and other serious races who cut corners "because everyone else does it".
Fools.
Surely to make it so that when a car goes on the grass, ie cutting corners, it slows the car right down to about 20mph, wouldnt require too much of a big data change would it??
I've lost faith in this, was great online while I had a good game but that only happened on maybe two occasions ages ago, since then it's been ridiculous, and the scoreboards are crudded up, and will be again since it appears they're patching the wrong stuff. What a total and utter waste :(
Still the one player game was great while it lasted.
I find it a good laugh :thumbs:
From Official Xbox Forums:
Later today (5/19/04) there will be a mandatory auto update for Race Drive 2 that will be available for Xbox Live subscribers.
This free auto update will reset the leader boards as well. I don't specifics about what is contained in the auto update, but I wanted to let members know as soon as I could.
All Xbox Live members should be prompted to receive this update by 9pm ET/6pm PT today *
That is all the information I have at this time. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
darrenackers
13-01-2005, 12:57
Anyone playing this on PS2?
Also online?
Edited title to help stop confusion :)
darrenackers
14-01-2005, 09:38
So who's up for setting up a DVD Forums league on the PS2?
:shrug:
I just bought this game for the PS2, and I'd be up for an online race at some point today, if anybody else is?
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