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Matt KB
14-03-2004, 13:07
Right, xbox live is working like a blind man's dream, so what do I need to sign up to?

There's the thing for Links and something for Top Spin, wasn't there a clan thing for Rainbow 6 3 as well?

And what about that messenger thingy - something that shows who is on Xbox Live at the present time and playing what?



Btw, Gamertag is Party Boy Matt. Thanks to everyone who helped make this special day happen :cry:


Going back to Uni soon though :( but will be online some of Weds night, pretty much all day Thurs, Fri, some of Sat, and Sunday :D

dan13l
14-03-2004, 14:00
You need to link your Gamertag to your MSN Passport. That way you can use the website to see who's online, and join the XSN tourney's for Top Spin and Links.

There isn't anything offical that runs locally to tell you who's online yet (although I posted a link to one that a Microsoft Dev had written).

Support for who's online through a tab in messenger is coming soon, apparently.

MrSpeed
14-03-2004, 14:08
Go to www.xbox.com to link your Gamertag to your MSN Passport. (you can then use this site to see who is online in your friends list without switching on your xbox)

Go to www.xsnsports.com and register there too. (for all the compos we have !)

Go to www.teamcompete.com and register there to join in the RS3 clan games (you need to read all the info in rawowls first post here (http://www.thedvdforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=266941) to make sure you do it ok :) )

If you like racing games,then sign up at www.xboxracing.net


You are now on my friends list :suspect:

Questor
14-03-2004, 15:23
Well, I'm also on now - added a few of ya to my friends list - I'm off work all week, so I'll be available daytimes as well as evenings if anyone fancies a game

My Gamertag is Questor77

Matt KB
14-03-2004, 19:44
Originally posted by MrSpeed
Go to www.xbox.com to link your Gamertag to your MSN Passport. (you can then use this site to see who is online in your friends list without switching on your xbox)

Done :D

Originally posted by MrSpeed
Go to www.xsnsports.com and register there too. (for all the compos we have !)

Done :D

Originally posted by MrSpeed
Go to www.teamcompete.com and register there to join in the RS3 clan games (you need to read all the info in rawowls first post here (http://www.thedvdforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=266941) to make sure you do it ok :) )

Done :D

Originally posted by MrSpeed
If you like racing games,then sign up at www.xboxracing.net

Done :D

Originally posted by MrSpeed
You are now on my friends list :suspect:

Yeah I added as many as I could find before I had to eat and leave for Uni. :D

Not sure how much of this works, but I'll get the hang of it. Not on it till Weds night now, can't wait though :D




btw my Live games are: Rainbow 6 3, Links 2004, Ghost Recon: Island Thunder, PGR2, Top Spin Tennis, ESPN Football, ESPN Hockey, Return to Castle Wolfenstein

craigizmo2k2
14-03-2004, 19:46
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Done :D



Done :D



Done :D



Done :D



Yeah I added as many as I could find before I had to eat and leave for Uni. :D

Not sure how much of this works, but I'll get the hang of it. Not on it till Weds night now, can't wait though :D

:lol:

Pleased you got it working :)

r.vernon1
14-03-2004, 22:27
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mattkbishop
[B]btw my Live games are: PGR2

I will play this with you anytime mate as there don't seem to be many on here who play it, I love this game though. My tag is Aspertarion. Add me and will join you when you are online bud.

Rob

M@rtin
14-03-2004, 22:46
Rob, I'm on PGR2 most of the time! GT = r1skbreak3r, I'll add you to my list next time I'm on...

Kyro
14-03-2004, 23:41
mat play me on ESPN hockey:D

I will rape u, but you will enjoy it

DVDR Kyro is my tag

Matt KB
14-03-2004, 23:46
You will rape me? Jesus christ man...... I'll play you at it sure. Think I might turn voice off though :lol:

;)


I'll add everyone on Weds, if you're on beforehand though save me some time will ya and get the tag from the sig :D

r.vernon1
15-03-2004, 00:46
Originally posted by M@rtin
Rob, I'm on PGR2 most of the time! GT = r1skbreak3r, I'll add you to my list next time I'm on...

Thanks mate, will you too bud.

rawowl
15-03-2004, 08:14
I have ESPN Hockey + Football 2004 as well :wave:

Matt KB
15-03-2004, 09:30
Originally posted by rawowl
I have ESPN Hockey + Football 2004 as well :wave:


I'll give you a game mate. Can you add me to the Rainbow 6 clan please (if you need/want any more members) - I've signed up on TeamComplete for it. Posted here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3783067) about not knowing how to join :searchme:

rawowl
15-03-2004, 10:57
Yep no problem, at work at the moment :suspect: so will sort it out tonight. :thumbs:

Matt KB
17-03-2004, 16:08
OK so live is COOL.

Only played PGR2 so far, but I'll be on 24/7 almost over the next few days I reckon :D

damell
17-03-2004, 16:23
Originally posted by mattkbishop
OK so live is COOL.

Only played PGR2 so far, but I'll be on 24/7 almost over the next few days I reckon :D

PGR2 went out the proverbial window when i found R6:3 :oh-hum:

Matt KB
17-03-2004, 16:27
Wanna play R6 3 now mate?

M@rtin
17-03-2004, 17:17
Still haven't got into RS3, PGR2 is teh best for me!!

Grandmaster
17-03-2004, 19:59
Originally posted by Kyro
mat play me on ESPN hockey:D

I will rape u, but you will enjoy it


That really is rather sinister. I'm scared. :help:

M@rtin
17-03-2004, 23:31
Hey Matt, haven't you got a headset then? Talking rubbish on live is half the fun :)

r.vernon1
17-03-2004, 23:35
Anyone up for some PGR 2 now?

Rob

M@rtin
17-03-2004, 23:39
Possibly... ;)

reecie
18-03-2004, 00:01
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Wanna play R6 3 now mate?

Early evening all my Xbox LIve Friends Thingee did was :

Party Boy Matt is playing PGR2
10mins later
Party Boy Matt is playing GR-IT
10mins later
Party Boy Matt is playing TopSpin Tennis
10mins later
Party Boy Matt is playing R6 3
10mins later
...........

You must have either no Friends or a limited attention span m8 :)

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 00:44
I was just trying to update them all mate :D


Had problems with the poxy headset. Didn't realise i was on mute half the time.... :help:

Now it's too late to talk but I'll be chatting away when people aren't sleeping :D


And yeah, PGR2 and Rainbow tonight lol

M@rtin
18-03-2004, 01:51
Nice racing tonight guys, although I've had enough of Minis for a while! :lol:

r.vernon1
18-03-2004, 01:53
Yeah hope to do it again sometime soon, perhaps cat and mouse?!!

craigizmo2k2
18-03-2004, 08:02
I'll go on live if someone physically proves that live will work on 150k bb!!

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 09:51
Sorry guys I didn't have a clue what was going on and I didn't have any sound on either :lol:

Poxy Minis.

M@rtin
18-03-2004, 10:38
:lol: We were doing last man standing, where everyone starts in minis and whoever comes last gets to move up a class. The idea being that it evens out the racing as the better drivers will be stuck in the slower cars. In practice it doesn't work that well for the first few classes, some cars are definitely a downgrade from the mini!

I actually prefer the reverse way, where everyone starts in ultimates and whoever comes first has to drop a class - it becomes pretty hard to beat a GT1 in a Noble!

M@rtin
18-03-2004, 10:47
Originally posted by craigizmo2k2
I'll go on live if someone physically proves that live will work on 150k bb!!

AFAIK it's possible, but not all games will run well and you won't be able to host any games. I've got a spare Xbox Live 2-month trial code if you want to test it...

Can't you go for the 600k, it's only £7pm more for 4x download/2x upload and would be fine for Live...

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 10:58
600k would be fine. Mine is great, only games that I get lag on are Top Spin :(

Questor
18-03-2004, 11:24
Anyone up for a bit of PGR2 or Top Spin this afternoon?

r.vernon1
18-03-2004, 11:28
I could prlly make some PGR 2 this afternoon matey, might go on now actually. My ID is Aspertarion

Rob

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 12:55
PGR2 this afternoon you say? :D

Morton
18-03-2004, 13:07
Cool, I might jump on for a bit shortly then.

Uridium
18-03-2004, 13:12
Grrr! Can't wait to join you lot!!! Still 2 weeks to go! Could anyone check if Uridium is available as a Gamertag?

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 13:23
Me and Reecie are playing now :D

Add me and play - Party Boy Matt

Questor
18-03-2004, 13:34
Right - I'll be on in about 10 mins

Morton
18-03-2004, 14:26
Phew, a few good games there. :thumbs: Cheers guys. Had to go as well, I think my hangover from last night is getting it's second wind!!! Time for a break!

See you on-line again!!! :wave:

reecie
18-03-2004, 14:32
Yep, good games. I like the cat and mouse. I hadn't played that before. Catch you later.

M@rtin
18-03-2004, 16:41
Damn all you jobless layabouts, some of us have to browse the net, err... I mean work during the day :lol:

Morton
18-03-2004, 16:45
Originally posted by M@rtin
Damn all you jobless layabouts, some of us have to browse the net, err... I mean work during the day :lol:


Oi oi oi!!!! Don't include me in that!! I took a days holiday to recooperate from St Paddy's day celebrations! :D

Now get back to work!! ;)

Matt KB
18-03-2004, 17:42
Was great fun earlier, Morton is a bit good though.

Me and Reecie had the strategy nailed on Cat and Mouse though. Shame we both had dodgy gear boxes or something....

reecie
18-03-2004, 17:43
Originally posted by M@rtin
Damn all you jobless layabouts, some of us have to browse the net, err... I mean work during the day :lol:

Not me. I had an hospital op last Friday and have a week off to recover..

reecie
18-03-2004, 18:25
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Was great fun earlier, Morton is a bit good though.

Me and Reecie had the strategy nailed on Cat and Mouse though. Shame we both had dodgy gear boxes or something....

We did win one of them :thumbs:

camaj
19-03-2004, 21:05
Originally posted by M@rtin
I've got a spare Xbox Live 2-month trial code if you want to test it...

Have you still got it? Can I have it please?

rawowl
19-03-2004, 21:09
I have a few 2 month xbox live trials if any one wants one .

Space Duck
19-03-2004, 22:10
Live trials become null and void at the end of this month so use them quickly my people :)

Oh and I bought Carve today, its an alright game and for £20 you can't go wrong :)

camaj
22-03-2004, 13:53
Originally posted by rawowl
I have a few 2 month xbox live trials if any one wants one .

Can I have one? M@rtin seems not to have noticed my request. TIA :thumbs:

M@rtin
22-03-2004, 14:09
Originally posted by camaj
Can I have one? M@rtin seems not to have noticed my request. TIA :thumbs:

Oops sorry, you're right! I've missed the last few posts of this thread actually! Will email you the code when I get home tonight. :thumbs:

camaj
22-03-2004, 14:31
Ta :D

Morton
22-03-2004, 15:13
I've also got about 4 Live trial codes if anyone wants them.

camaj
22-03-2004, 15:36
Originally posted by Morton
I've also got about 4 Live trial codes if anyone wants them.

If you can send it to me in the before 5pm can I have it please? I'd rather set it up now than wait for M@rtins. I'm just impatient!

Morton
22-03-2004, 15:48
Originally posted by camaj
If you can send it to me in the before 5pm can I have it please? I'd rather set it up now than wait for M@rtins. I'm just impatient!

Sorry mate, the codes are at home and I don't finish work until 6pm. I'll check the thread when I get home and see if you still need one.

camaj
22-03-2004, 17:12
:lol: Ok, the race is on :thumbs:

MrSpeed
22-03-2004, 18:11
I've still to see Matt online with live :suspect: :(

Matt KB
22-03-2004, 18:21
Originally posted by MrSpeed
I've still to see Matt online with live :suspect: :(

I'm without it till 2nd April now :(

Morton
22-03-2004, 18:40
Originally posted by camaj
:lol: Ok, the race is on :thumbs:

I'm home! Did I win? :D

camaj
22-03-2004, 18:57
Originally posted by Morton
I'm home! Did I win? :D

No because you haven't sent me a code. Maybe m@rtin will pip you at the post :D

Matt KB
22-03-2004, 19:10
What's this about post and stuff? If it's just the code you need I'll scratch it off and email now if you want?

camaj
22-03-2004, 19:12
I believe so. I think they were given away free with certain games but expire in a week or so. Send away :thumbs:

Morton
22-03-2004, 19:39
Originally posted by mattkbishop
What's this about post and stuff? If it's just the code you need I'll scratch it off and email now if you want?

'Post' as in 'pipped to the post' mate. :D

Camaj, just wanted to ensure M@rtin hadn't already sent you one. Let me know and I'll e-mail it now.

camaj
22-03-2004, 19:41
Originally posted by Morton
'Post' as in 'pipped to the post' mate. :D

:lol: I didn't really understand what he was asking, that's cleared it up.

Morton, please go ahead. If I got two I'd just tell the other person so nothing lost.

Matt KB
22-03-2004, 19:43
Sent.

camaj
22-03-2004, 19:46
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Sent.

Frumper T? Thanks :thumbs:
Matt comes from behind and takes everyone by surprise (hmm, just read that again and realised the double meaning)

EDIT- Stewards enquirery, it seems Matt isn't Frumper T, the person who sent me the code at the exact time Matt offered :searchme: Thanks to both of them then :thinking:

Edit 2- Seems like Frumper T is actually Morton

Matt KB
22-03-2004, 19:49
Originally posted by camaj
Matt comes from behind and takes everyone by surprise (hmm, just read that again and realised the double meaning)

:o

camaj
22-03-2004, 20:11
Do they actually bill your credit card, does anything come up on the statement? They say it's for "security" but I'm planning to just buy codes. :help:

Matt KB
22-03-2004, 20:15
Nope, they don't take anything on the free trials, it's for security I think, plus if you want to download updates that you have to pay for ie one of the courses on links.

Dan
27-03-2004, 16:17
I just registered as dandvd who wants a kicking on PGR2?

Sabre UK
27-03-2004, 17:11
Dan, add me to your friends list and I'll give YOU a kicking on PGR2 next time I'm on. :)

Tag same as username

Dan
27-03-2004, 17:32
I'll do it right now. :D

M@rtin
27-03-2004, 18:40
I'll add you both and give everyone* a good kicking on PGR2 :p

(Note: this is a lie, I'm better offline than on!)

Matt KB
27-03-2004, 18:42
Originally posted by M@rtin
(Note: this is a lie, I'm better offline than on!)

He's right :p :D

;)

Liggur
28-03-2004, 16:23
Ive used my 2 month trial code for Top Spin so im now LIVE.

Other LIVE games i have are:

MotoGP2
Ghost Recon The non-Thunder Island version
Midtown Madness 3 Currently £12.99 in Toys R Us

Edit: Off to Toys R Us to get a £15 headset so I can chat to people :)

rawowl
28-03-2004, 16:34
Anyone fancy some Ghost Recon Island Thunder later ??

Havent played the game on LIVE yet :cuckoo:

MrSpeed
28-03-2004, 16:38
Originally posted by rawowl
Anyone fancy some Ghost Recon Island Thunder later ??

Havent played the game on LIVE yet :cuckoo:

Can do tomorrow :) (don't forget to press the white button whenever you want to chat in this game ;) )

rawowl
28-03-2004, 16:40
Cheers for the advice :thumbs:

It's my drunken pool night tommorow :nuts: so cant make one.

MrSpeed
28-03-2004, 16:46
LMK if you want a game any other night in the week then (usual 7pm slot)

Wolfie has this too and is usually up for a game.

Matt KB
28-03-2004, 16:54
Originally posted by MrSpeed
LMK if you want a game any other night in the week then (usual 7pm slot)

Wolfie has this too and is usually up for a game.


I have this too and am up for a game. :)

Back on Live from Friday baby :D

MrSpeed
28-03-2004, 16:58
Shall we pencil in a game for 7pm on Friday then ??

I'd be up for it and I'm sure Wolfie would.

rawowl
28-03-2004, 17:01
I'll be in for that :thumbs:

Dan
28-03-2004, 17:04
Anyone up for PGR2 tonight?

MrSpeed
28-03-2004, 17:05
Originally posted by rawowl
I'll be in for that :thumbs:

That's 3 of us then :)

Any more for GR:IT next Friday at 7pm ?

Matt KB
28-03-2004, 17:05
Friday is pushing it a bit but i'll try to pop on :)

I've got a mate who'd be up for a game of this too - can I invite? Or do we want to keep this strictly forums people?

M@rtin
28-03-2004, 21:15
Originally posted by mattkbishop
He's right :p :D

;)

:lol:

I'm back on now so all challengers are welcome - let's see how big you talk when you're back on Live matt :p

Matt KB
28-03-2004, 21:16
Originally posted by M@rtin
:lol:

I'm back on now so all challengers are welcome - let's see how big you talk when you're back on Live matt :p

I walk the walk mate. Don't you remember.... the back of my exhaust :D

reecie
28-03-2004, 21:25
Originally posted by mattkbishop
I walk the walk mate. Don't you remember.... the back of my exhaust :D

In my case only because I was pushing your mini along :thumbs:

M@rtin
28-03-2004, 22:02
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Don't you remember.... the back of my exhaust :D

You mean when I lapped you? ;)

Dan
29-03-2004, 17:27
Anyone up for a kicking? :wave:

r.vernon1
29-03-2004, 21:13
I am on PGR 2 now if anyone is up for it?

Rob

Dan
29-03-2004, 21:14
Go on then, my tag is dandvd. :D

camaj
29-03-2004, 22:06
Dan, what games do you have? No Splinter Cell 2?

Dan
29-03-2004, 22:08
Only onlines ones I have are PGR2 and Rainbow 6 3 which i've not played yet.:nuts:

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 22:55
.......my £99 XBox should be here tomorrow morning.

So Is Live really worth it?

I have NTL 1 Meg bb - any special offers about?

Dave, Oldham

BTW Whats PGR 2?

Matt KB
29-03-2004, 22:58
Is it really worth it? I started a thread ages ago on it and the general consensus was no, not really.

But after playing it myself the answer is "oooooooooooh hell yes :D"

It totally rocks, playing with people you know (albeit over the forums) was great fun, really added a new dimension to gaming. Love it. :thumbs:

Only £30 from amazon for headset and 12 months, can't go wrong with it really.

reecie
29-03-2004, 22:59
Originally posted by whiteswan
.......my £99 XBox should be here tomorrow morning.

So Is Live really worth it?

I have NTL 1 Meg bb - any special offers about?

Dave, Oldham

BTW Whats PGR 2?

Personally I would say yes as it adds a whole new dimension to the gaming (and works really welll which always helps).

PGR2 = Project Gotham Racing 2

Recently a lot of new games had free 2 month Live trials included in them. I think they may be useable up until the end of the month. If you can get one (it's a code you enter) then you can try it for free and see what you think.

It does mean you tend to buy games that you may not have done just cos it's the next BIG Live thing though :searchme:

Matt KB
29-03-2004, 23:02
Good point about the trial though. You got till end of March, so that's two days. So set it up ASAP (I've got a code laying around I reckon, email me if you want it and don't have one yourself) and you got 2 months to have a play with it, albeit without headset.

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 23:07
I'm a bit confused..........when i get my xbox tomorrow do i just need this code?

Dont I need to buy a special LIVE pack or something?

Dave, Oldham.

Matt KB
29-03-2004, 23:13
Yeah pretty much mate. All new xboxs come with the live dash installed. Presuming you connect it, you just need the code.

That's all the live pack is really. A CD about what live can do etc which you don't need, a 12 month code and a headset.

Presuming you're gonna get something fairly recent with the console you should get a code inside it. Like I said, if you didn't get a trial code with anything and want to try out a game on Live (that you have that's live enabled, obviously) drop me a line I got one trial left.

reecie
29-03-2004, 23:16
Originally posted by whiteswan
I'm a bit confused..........when i get my xbox tomorrow do i just need this code?

Dont I need to buy a special LIVE pack or something?

Dave, Oldham.

Not for the trial. The code you enter gives a 2 month subsciption for free but no headset. A normal Live pack gives you a code lasting for 12 months plus the headset. Amazon is the cheapest place for this at £30.

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 23:17
......for your replies.

Midtown Madness 3 comes with console so maybe this has a code?

Also i read somewhere about having to pay NTL an extra £5.00 per month to use xbox live on my broadband connection.

Is this correct?

I am completely useless at setting this stuff up - but cant I just unplug the ethernet cable from the back of my pc and plug it in the xbox?

Dave, Oldham UK.

Matt KB
29-03-2004, 23:19
I'm not sure about that NTL thing sorry mate I'm not with them. I suppose you could do that with your cable yeah but could be a bit of hassle unplugging all the time, plus then you can't be online at the same time, if you wanted to set up a game with a mate on MSN or whatever.

Midtown Madness is indeed Live enabled, don't think it'll have a code with it but it may well, MS are trying to promote live more and more.


Edit: Reecie keeps echoing me... :suspect:




;)

M@rtin
29-03-2004, 23:33
Dave, don't bother subscribing to that NTL "service", you should be able to unplug the cable and stick it in the xbox. Depending on whether you've got a cable modem or STB you may need to reboot the CM/STB and possibly clone your PC's MAC address in the xbox live settings.

Alternatively get a router and leave everything plugged in, that's how mine is set up. I'd be happy to help out or give you a demo if you want :thumbs:

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 23:34
.....rather than unplugging can't i get a splitter box ie Broadband going in and 2 cables coming out - 1 to pc and 1 to xbox?

Dave, Oldham.

r.vernon1
29-03-2004, 23:37
Originally posted by whiteswan

Also i read somewhere about having to pay NTL an extra £5.00 per month to use xbox live on my broadband connection.

Is this correct?

In short, no. I don't pay any extra to NTL. You will prolly want a headset though, and as I am sure yo will love online gaming via the xbox, you might be better getting an xbox live kit from town, fair enough it may cost a little more but you could playing ith us lot online tomorrow, oh BTW, you might also want to get a copy of PGR 2 as well, as it seem to be next big thing on here as its the greatest game ever. Just finished about 2 hours of cat and mouse, man that rocks.

Rob

r.vernon1
29-03-2004, 23:39
Originally posted by M@rtin
Dave, don't bother subscribing to that NTL "service", you should be able to unplug the cable and stick it in the xbox. Depending on whether you've got a cable modem or STB you may need to reboot the CM/STB and possibly clone your PC's MAC address in the xbox live settings.

Alternatively get a router and leave everything plugged in, that's how mine is set up. I'd be happy to help out or give you a demo if you want :thumbs:

Yeah a router is the best option it is so easy, and it makes everything so much more secure. It is literally plug and play.

Rob

M@rtin
29-03-2004, 23:40
Networking doesn't work like that, each device needs its own IP address, and the standard NTL service only gives you one. The £5pm service gives you two IP addresses, one for the PC and one for the xbox.

A router takes the IP address assigned by NTL but can then assign internal address to a number of PCs/xboxes/etc and then route the network traffic to/from the internal network to NTL.

The other option is to stick another network card in your PC, then use internet connection sharing, but obviously your PC would need to be on when going on xbox live.

Paul Lynock
29-03-2004, 23:40
Hi dave :thumbs:

You can buy a router which the NTL box plugs in to, and then this goes off to your PC and Xbox seperately. Or (and this would be cheaper- it's what I did) you can put another network card in your PC and link that to the Xbox. The only thing there is that the PC has to be switched on when you want to go on Xbox Live.

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 23:41
A router? Can you point me in the right direction? Available locally?

Also "clone what address" its all Greek to me mate.

Got any simple instructions you can send me ?

I am getting a new PC on Thursday (one of the Aldi ones - i know the manager at my local and he is saving me one) - its got wireless technology - can i use this with the xbox as my PC is upstairs but I wanted the xbox down stairs?

I must sound completely thick.................

Also I am getting it chipped, all software (media centre etc) put on and 120 gig hd put in it for £110.00 - does this sound okay?

Dave, Oldham.

whiteswan
29-03-2004, 23:42
...Hi Paul - is everybody I have sold summat to on this thread.

At least i'll know someone when i go LIVE!

Dave, Oldham.

M@rtin
30-03-2004, 00:01
If your PC is wireless then you should consider a wireless router such as this one (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45023) - I have it and it works very well. It's the faster 54G standard, but is backwards compatible with 11Mbps 802.11b. If these terms are alien to you just do a search in here, there's loads of wireless threads :)

You can also get a wireless bridge to go with that, which is a small box with an antenna and an ethernet port - it basically makes any ethernet device a wireless one, such as an xbox - matt's got one here, as do a few others and they are supposed to work well. Personally I have the router in the same room as the xbox, so that is wired while my PC upstairs is wireless.

A MAC address is a unique serial number on every network card/device that is used to identify each piece of hardware on a network. NTL use it to only allow certain PCs broadband access - you may remember having to register your PC's details when you first got NTL before you could access the net. In the Live settings on the xbox there's an option to clone a MAC address, i.e. the one from your PC, so NTL think that the same device is connected and you still have broadband access from the xbox, even though it is a different device!

If you need any more (bad!) Networks 101 just let me know :)

Matt KB
30-03-2004, 06:38
Originally posted by M@rtin
You can also get a wireless bridge to go with that, which is a small box with an antenna and an ethernet port - it basically makes any ethernet device a wireless one, such as an xbox - matt's got one here, as do a few others and they are supposed to work well. Personally I have the router in the same room as the xbox, so that is wired while my PC upstairs is wireless.


Yep I've got one here. Works like a charm after a quick phone call to Linksys tech support. Best thing really is decide where you want everything, then look at the best options to set it up. ie You want PC here, xbox here, broadband point is here, you do/don't want wires etc.

And then go from there.

whiteswan
30-03-2004, 07:00
My PC is up stairs with a cable modem (NTL), I want my xbox downstairs.

So do i just order one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45023

What else do i need?

Dave, Oldham.

M@rtin
30-03-2004, 07:23
Either this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=52460) or this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51512) for 11Mbps or this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=54230) or this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=52459) for 54Mbps.

Xbox Live doesn't really need the higher speed, but usually if you have a mixed speed network, the whole thing runs at the slower speed, so it affects any other device on the network. Also the higher speed would be better for FTP transfers between PC-Xbox.

Also, it's not strictly necessary to get everything the same brand, but it can minimse any problems you might have. In my experience the router is the main thing though, I used to have a Netgear one and that could be a bit flakey with xbox live...

Matt KB
02-04-2004, 13:32
Right I'm home and Live is back on so let's rumble people :D

Dan
02-04-2004, 14:20
Get ready for an ass kicking.:lol:

Liggur
03-04-2004, 17:31
Originally posted by whiteswan
My PC is up stairs with a cable modem (NTL), I want my xbox downstairs.

So do i just order one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45023

What else do i need?

Dave, Oldham.

Try http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ they have lots networking stuff

In regards to the extra fee for NTL, that fee is becuase with the hardware they use, they give you 2 IP addresses to use, one for your PC and one for your console. Just get a router and that will get it sorted. D-Link 604 is the one I use, now costs £30 or so, as everything is in the same room for my setup.

whiteswan
04-04-2004, 13:47
.....I have started anew thread about this but wanted to ask those subscribed to this thread as i am very confused.....

I have found this.....http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000C5FMJ/qid=1081086133/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-6089678-1889537?v=glance&s=toys&n=507846

Also my pc is the new Aldi one with built in wireless 802.11g module.

If i imported the xbox adapter is this all i need to get live downstairs on my xbox or do i still need a router etc?

Dave, Oldham

Dan
04-04-2004, 19:40
Anyone for PGR2 right now? :wave:

Matt KB
04-04-2004, 23:12
Sorry Dan had meant to get back online but after dinner we had some family ******** going on :(


Edit: You got a mic yet? :p

Matt KB
05-04-2004, 20:02
PGR2 fun at the mo people, Dan's hosting. :wave:

Dan
05-04-2004, 20:53
Some dirty players on there, i'm looking at you Sabre UK and Matt. :nono:







:lol:

Uridium
05-04-2004, 21:08
Have had confirmation from Pipex that I'll have ADSL on Thursday - hope to see you guys on Live soon after that!! Been buying up Live games like they were going out of fashion - just got Rainbow Six and should have Links tomorrow! Have fun - cya soon!

Sabre UK
05-04-2004, 21:23
Originally posted by Dan
Some dirty players on there, i'm looking at you Sabre UK and Matt. :nono:



Yeah, wasn't sure if it was ok to beat a mod. ;)

I took the racing line. Can't help if people are in it. :D


Great game tonight.

Those kids were annoying Matt on that last game. And that other guy. Not sure he understood English. He just kept laughing...

until you kicked him. lol

Matt KB
05-04-2004, 22:15
Originally posted by Dan
Some dirty players on there, i'm looking at you Sabre UK and Matt. :nono:

:lol:
:eek: :o No chance mate :D




Originally posted by Sabre UK
Yeah, wasn't sure if it was ok to beat a mod. ;)

I took the racing line. Can't help if people are in it. :D


Great game tonight.

Those kids were annoying Matt on that last game. And that other guy. Not sure he understood English. He just kept laughing...

until you kicked him. lol

:D

Don't have time for dickheads on it mate, one of the pluses of hosting lol. Was top fun tonight though :thumbs:

Matt KB
07-04-2004, 01:17
Think it was Rob and Martin I was playing against tonight for a few races. You guys are damn good though, I had no sound or mic though as I couldn't find my mic and had to have tele noise off.

Got to say though, you are a couple of dirty buggers :D

r.vernon1
07-04-2004, 08:52
I ain't good, you kept beating me!!!:thinking: :lol: I was saying to Martin though, that you are good despite having a low kudos ranking, either you are a natural at it or you have played it a lot in 1 player mode.

Rob

Matt KB
07-04-2004, 13:32
I haven't played much online, about 40 hours offline in single player. All silvers going for all golds. Really missed not being able to chat on it though last night :(

Uridium
08-04-2004, 08:38
Yay! I'm on Live now - gamertag UR1D1UM

Had a quick burst of PGR2 last night which was excellent, especially as I was hosting so could kick off the irritating Yank who kept shouting ALL the time! Will add some of you to my Friends list if that's ok. Please add me if you want to! I've also got Links, Rainbow Six, Top Spin, Splinter Cell 2 and Castle Wolfenstein.

Couple of quick questions for a Live Newbie - after 30 mins or so PGR2 completely locked up. Does this happen often? I guess the Xbox is prone to crashing as much as anything else?

Secondly, whilst I was signing up to Live - the missus turned the PC on upstairs and Norton AV thru a wobbler. Am using a wireless router, I should be able to use both at the same time shouldn't I?

Sabre UK
08-04-2004, 09:08
Add me to your friends list and I'll play you. I'm going to be playing tonight for a few hours. :)

re: the xbox locking up. This is not usual. I've had the Dirty disc error (DDE) on PGR2 once and sometimes it takes ages to load a track but this is not usual.

Uridium
08-04-2004, 09:13
Ta mate - will do.

Hope that was just a one off then with PGR2 :(

Matt KB
08-04-2004, 10:12
Uridium - I'll add you next time I'm on. I'm on tonight Sabre so I'm up for a few races again.

Re: Locking up - never had that happen, even after 5 hour + sessions. Guess you got unlucky that time.

Re: Antivirus - I go on live with a laptop running XP and PC running ME all online. No problems here. That's with AVG and McAfee though.

Uridium
08-04-2004, 10:29
Originally posted by mattkbishop
even after 5 hour + sessions

Sweeeeeet! :clap:

Oh to be single again!!!!

Matt KB
08-04-2004, 10:46
Originally posted by Uridium
Sweeeeeet! :clap:

Oh to be single again!!!!

What you trying to say? :D



I'm on PGR2 now - Party Boy Matt

Come look for a game pal if you want :)

Uridium
08-04-2004, 10:59
Hehehe - din't mean that as it sounded!!!:o More like I won't be able to get marathon sessions like that with the breadknife and rugrat around! (Wouldn't have it any other way though!)

Thanks for the invite but am at work! :cry: Will be around at some point tonight though!

M@rtin
09-04-2004, 17:30
I used to get lockups on PGR2 quite a lot, but have just swapped my xbox's DVD drive from a Thomson to a Samsung and it's a world of difference - games load faster and it copes with older discs that I used to have problems with.

My GT is r1skbreak3r, feel free to add me to your friends list. I mainly play on PGR2, but also have Rainbow Six 3, Top Spin, Links, Crimson Skies, Unreal Tournament, Counterstrike, Midtown Madness and Xiii.

Matt KB
10-04-2004, 10:52
Online most of today kids :D

Dan
10-04-2004, 15:33
I don't think i've earnt enough kudos for the nitrous and traction control options yet which r1skbreak3r seems to have. :(

UR1D1UM you owe me a new black M3 after shunting me up the arse. :nono:

Matt KB
10-04-2004, 15:39
M@rtin is dead good on it, I beat him about twice in 2 hours I think lol.

M@rtin
10-04-2004, 16:09
No nitrous Dan, just lots of hours spent getting all the platinum medals! Then lots more hours transferring those skills to the online game :)

This is probably the game I'm best at on Live, but there are quite a few on my friends list who beat me regularly, like that emsixteen guy who was on earlier. At least I can keep up with him these days!

Liggur
10-04-2004, 20:08
Anyone on live got Crimson Skies?
Fancy a sortie?

I finish work at Midnight GMT.

M@rtin
10-04-2004, 20:10
Yeah I'd be up for that, haven't played it in ages. I'll add you to my friends list :thumbs:

Uridium
11-04-2004, 09:41
Originally posted by Dan
UR1D1UM you owe me a new black M3 after shunting me up the arse. :nono:

Only coz you slammed into the wall directly in front of me mate!!:lol:

Was having a nightmare game yesterday though, not good in split screen! That american kiddie who was on was a pain in the butt though, didn't stop yakking!!! As for his high pitched voice too! Thank god Matt kicked him off....:thumbs:

Must try some Top Spin soon if you guys fancy it. Just got Splinter Cell today for me Birthday so will be up for that next as well!

Liggur
11-04-2004, 15:38
Originally posted by M@rtin
Yeah I'd be up for that, haven't played it in ages. I'll add you to my friends list :thumbs:

Done the same here M@artin. I didnt get online till 1.30am, as I had to walk the dog after work. Then The Big Lebowski was on C4, so I watched the end of that.

I`ll try again tonight

Matt KB
22-04-2004, 22:58
I was a bit naughty tonight and.... well to cut a long story short, I now have Xbox Live at Uni. At least until they find out then I won't have internet access at all. Anyway.... apologies Camaj was just testing it out, I don't have a headset at the mo anyway so would of sucked on SC2.

camaj
23-04-2004, 02:35
No worries Matt, I wondered what was going on, I thought maybe you'd set yourself up at a friends. Why aren't you allowed to play at uni then?

This new voice message feature, is it part of the invite to voice chat? Bit odd that.

Tonight was pretty much a blow out, I had one person online but they must have been in a full room the whole time and I ended up playing a bunch of strangers, always a miserable experience.

Bill Carr
28-04-2004, 12:11
:wave:

XBL newbie here, I've posted in the gamertag thread, but thought I'd say hello here too :D My tag is Nameless 0ne (with a zero), and i'll be adding some of you guys to my friends list shortly. BTW, I don't have a headset, so if I don't talk to you I'm not being ignorant ;)

Dan
28-04-2004, 17:22
Originally posted by Bill Carr
:wave:

XBL newbie here, I've posted in the gamertag thread, but thought I'd say hello here too :D My tag is Nameless 0ne (with a zero), and i'll be adding some of you guys to my friends list shortly. BTW, I don't have a headset, so if I don't talk to you I'm not being ignorant ;)

I hope you're not a dirty player, unlike some other people in this thread, you know who you are. :wave:

camaj
28-04-2004, 18:11
Originally posted by Dan
I hope you're not a dirty player, unlike some other people in this thread, you know who you are. :wave:

Dan, thanks to you, even I know who they are.

Bill, what games do you have then? please say SC2, please say SC2

Matt KB
28-04-2004, 19:13
Originally posted by camaj
Dan, thanks to you, even I know who they are.

Bill, what games do you have then? please say SC2, please say SC2


You're gonna be dissapointed, he's a PGR2 man :D

M@rtin
28-04-2004, 19:17
I've had SC2 for over a week and still not gone online with it :cuckoo:

camaj
28-04-2004, 19:37
Originally posted by M@rtin
I've had SC2 for over a week and still not gone online with it :cuckoo:

What's that you say? :wave: I hope you join us soon but when you do go online make sure it's with fellow forumites, playing random matches will taint the game for you. I'll add you to my list. There's a list of SC2 players on the last page of that thread.

slip
28-04-2004, 23:00
Originally posted by M@rtin
I've had SC2 for over a week and still not gone online with it :cuckoo:

Ive had it for weeks and not gone on line with it :D

I never played Sc 1, so started playing it in single player to get a jist for the game, i find it a bit slow, esp after playing rainbow, then all i want todo is shoot them :nono: :lol:

camaj
29-04-2004, 00:14
Originally posted by slip
Ive had it for weeks and not gone on line with it :D

I never played Sc 1, so started playing it in single player to get a jist for the game, i find it a bit slow

Online is much faster really. Faster than RS3 going by my limited experience and more precise. Someone was saying that in RS3 you can't run away from a grenade if one lands at your feet.

camaj
23-05-2004, 19:06
Anyone know what happens when you cancell your subscription and then resubscribe? Can you pick the same name next time? Will your friends list get wiped?

photek
23-05-2004, 19:32
Originally posted by camaj
Anyone know what happens when you cancell your subscription and then resubscribe? Can you pick the same name next time? Will your friends list get wiped?

Probably best to speak to Xbox Customer Service.

Liggur
23-05-2004, 22:20
I now have SC2.

I suppose I`ll have to finish the original at some point :)

Matt KB
23-05-2004, 23:02
Few good races tonight on PGR with Samiad :thumbs:


Get Xbox Live people :D

Samiad
24-05-2004, 09:19
Yea some good races. I need to go through and unlock all the cars, and get a bit better at the game tho :help:

Samiad
24-05-2004, 09:24
I'm thinking about getting MotoGP2, but mainly for Live. Is there anyone still playing this game on Live, and is there anywhere I can check on this? I don't want to buy a game that's dead on live :(

Matt KB
24-05-2004, 09:44
I play Moto GP 2 online :)

It had a quite hardcore following on live, it's not as easy to find a game as say, PGR2, but there's often about 4 or 5 games going when I log on, usually the evenings for Moto Gp 2. The thing is you need to play a fair bit of the single player to get your stats up to stand anywhere near a chance of competing online. The best bet is to do the stunt challenges - fairly easy and will take about an hour before you can get a reasonable bike to take online. If you want to do a career to get your stats up though, and stand a chance of winning it'll take a while, one because you need to do all the tracks and win them on the medium difficulty (not amazingly hard but there are a fair few tracks) and because you'll need to do the challenges to learn the game - which are super hard. Very rewarding though, most of my time on it is time trial against my friends list. If you can pick it up cheap it might be worth it (£20 in Woolies) depending how much time you are willing to invest offline first.

It's quite nifty with the old bandwidth too, I can happily host 16 on my 512/256 connection. Talking in game is limited to person in front and person behind though.

rsbrowndog
24-05-2004, 10:39
I've got a couple of quick questions and this thread seemed appropriate!

1) If I got on LIVE using a trial can I then buy a starter kit and add the 12 months sub to the end of my initial 2 months sub?

2) I seem to recall reading somewhere that the MotoGP trial version that comes with the starter kit "unlocks" to the full game if you have a MotoGP save on your XBox. Is that correct?

Cheers,

Ryan

Bill Carr
24-05-2004, 10:41
Originally posted by camaj
Dan, thanks to you, even I know who they are.

Bill, what games do you have then? please say SC2, please say SC2

Sorry for the lateness of this reply :D I do have SC2, but as posted before, no headset, so that might make the game a bit pants :searchme:

I'm on PGR2 a bit, and I've recently got Ghost Recon, if anyone plays that.

Dan, I'm not too dirty. Depends really, I'm fair, but if I've been crashed in to I like to seek revenge :D

Matt KB
24-05-2004, 10:51
Originally posted by rsbrowndog
I've got a couple of quick questions and this thread seemed appropriate!

1) If I got on LIVE using a trial can I then buy a starter kit and add the 12 months sub to the end of my initial 2 months sub?

I believe so mate. Dan will confirm that I'm sure as he did it recently.

Originally posted by rsbrowndog
2) I seem to recall reading somewhere that the MotoGP trial version that comes with the starter kit "unlocks" to the full game if you have a MotoGP save on your XBox. Is that correct?


Errr not sure, wouldn't of thought so though.


Bill - haven't seen anything of you for ages was getting worried :D

r.vernon1
24-05-2004, 10:52
Originally posted by rsbrowndog
I've got a couple of quick questions and this thread seemed appropriate!

1) If I got on LIVE using a trial can I then buy a starter kit and add the 12 months sub to the end of my initial 2 months sub?

Yes this is fine, its what I did, but I forgot to put in my code for the 12 months so my account was charge for 1 month!!!

Bill - Whats you PGR gamertag?

rsbrowndog
24-05-2004, 10:54
Thanks for the replies all.

I made another attempt with Google for the MotoGP query and turned this up:

If you have a MotoGP save file on your Xbox hard drive, the demo will detect it, and open up all the levels from the original game for use on Xbox Live.

So it gives you all the levels for playing on LIVE, not off-line. Which is nice. Mind you, does anyone play this game now it's been superceded by MotoGP2?

Cheers,

Ryan

Bill Carr
24-05-2004, 12:20
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Bill - haven't seen anything of you for ages was getting worried :D

Don't worry, I'm still alive :D My work's pc has gone belly up and I'm using another machine that I can't install MSN on, unfortunately, though I was on Live the other night with my housemate, running rings around a bunch of no-hopers on PGR2 :clap:

Originally posted by r.vernon1

Bill - Whats you PGR gamertag?

'Tis in the sig... :thumbs:

r.vernon1
24-05-2004, 12:55
Cool, I am on now for a bit if anyone fancies it?

Rob

camaj
24-05-2004, 14:32
Originally posted by Bill Carr
Sorry for the lateness of this reply :D I do have SC2, but as posted before, no headset, so that might make the game a bit pants :searchme:

A headset might help. How come you don't have a headset though? Are you on a trial code?

SC2 is playable without a headset but it is a bit of a handicap. You'll basically have to listen to your team mate and let them take charge to a certain extent. It's certainly worth a go though, it seems strange that people will buy a game but not play on-line with it.

Liggur, I'd like to give you a game sometime too.

I've managed to make a group of 3 with two others so a 4th person would be very welcome. Camaj is my tag

Bill Carr
24-05-2004, 15:29
Originally posted by camaj
A headset might help. How come you don't have a headset though? Are you on a trial code?

Yup, on a trial code. You're already on my friends list (for some reason :suspect: ) and invited me to a game a while back, but when I tried to join XBL decided I needed to download an update, and then it hung :D Fabulous stuff this broadband, when it works. I'd like to try SC2 sometime, sounds very cool.

camaj
24-05-2004, 22:17
Originally posted by Bill Carr
Yup, on a trial code. You're already on my friends list (for some reason :suspect: ) and invited me to a game a while back, but when I tried to join XBL decided I needed to download an update, and then it hung :D Fabulous stuff this broadband, when it works. I'd like to try SC2 sometime, sounds very cool.

I think you mentioned you were buying it so I added you then. You may need to d/l an update because they did one sometime last week.

Dan
25-05-2004, 17:02
Just re-activated my sub using the code I got with my Live headset.

Also got the DLC for PGR2.

camaj
25-05-2004, 23:46
I have just got a year sub, I just hope it's worth it

gregh
02-06-2004, 11:53
I've just got an Xbox, got a 54g wireless network up and running, got a 54g bridge in the box ready so go.

so what is the 1st Live game I should buy??

Should I buy the "starter kit" with headset etc?

cheers,
greg

Xeon007
02-06-2004, 12:00
PGR2 :thumbs:

Yep, get a starter kit with headset, £30 from Amazon. I think you also get a 2 month trial code with PGR2.

Matt KB
02-06-2004, 12:01
Originally posted by gregh
I've just got an Xbox, got a 54g wireless network up and running, got a 54g bridge in the box ready so go.

so what is the 1st Live game I should buy??

Should I buy the "starter kit" with headset etc?

cheers,
greg


Depends what you like mate. Personally I don't think you could go far wrong with Project Gotham Racing 2.

gregh
02-06-2004, 12:02
yeh quite into racing games, is PGR2 better than TOCA2?

Matt KB
02-06-2004, 12:14
Oh yes.... it's street racing not track racing, and it's more arcadey but still keeping within the bounds of realism. Tbh if you're quite into racing game there's no reason why you shouldn't own this.

Choices: Get PGR2 and a trial (ask on classifieds I'm sure someone will give you one) or buy the PGR2 Live Starter Pack - game, 12 months and headset. Tbh the headset is a big part of the fun of xbox live but of course it's more money and if you dont like the service you've paid for 12 months.

Xeon007
02-06-2004, 12:32
Don't forget PGR2 is £18.99 from CD-Wow. :)

gregh
02-06-2004, 13:48
Just used the Game "4 game trade in" and got PGR2 Live Starter Pack for £20.99

:D

Sparky uk
02-06-2004, 16:49
Greg

I'd have thought toca2 would have been up your street - being track based and all.

Sparky (wscc)

gregh
02-06-2004, 16:57
Hi Sparky,

Yeh but TGR2 looked more fun, + they had the whole pack available....done the Toca thing on the PC, but maybe will pick up a 2nd hand one, will be good for practising lines!

ghwestie on XBox live :) but very cack at PGR2 so far....

cheers,

greg

Liggur
02-06-2004, 17:14
New PGR2 owner here, thanks to GAME's 4 game trade in + 99p for any game offer.

Have to boot up when I get home from work, shall I Fake a sicky and go home early? :norty:

Can you go straight on live or is it best to play single player for a while first?

M@rtin
02-06-2004, 17:18
You can go straight on Live but you'll probably spend a few races bouncing off barriers, plus you'll only have the starter cars to choose from, which are pants. I'd play some of the offline mode to start with, earn a few Kudos tokens and buy a few cars.

gregh
04-06-2004, 15:01
anyone care for some PGR2 XBox Live with a newbie......

Samiad
04-06-2004, 16:18
I'll play, I'm fairly new to this game too. :clap:

Liggur
05-06-2004, 22:43
Me too i'm only on the convertables section in single player.
I finish work after midnight.

no flipping
05-06-2004, 23:40
I'll play too, but I'm very poor (only had it a day!). My usertag is

Paulie Wallnutz

r.vernon1
05-06-2004, 23:54
I am on PGR2 now guys too, see you on there.

Sonick
08-06-2004, 20:55
Hopefully getting broadband next week "Fingers Crossed"

Does the live starter kit use switch cards as payment?

AngryFlower
08-06-2004, 22:02
Originally posted by Sonick
Hopefully getting broadband next week "Fingers Crossed"

Does the live starter kit use switch cards as payment?

When I bought my Live Kit the geek behind the counter was adament my Visa Debit Card wouldn't work "It HAS to be a CREDIT card".

Put the number in and it worked straight off. Idiot.

So, if your card has a VISA or MASTERCARD logo on it, and it's not a SOLO or ELECTRON card, chances are it'll work.

camaj
09-06-2004, 03:58
Electron is visa though :confused:

Matt KB
12-06-2004, 19:08
Few of us on PGR tonight at the mo :)

rsbrowndog
12-06-2004, 19:57
Originally posted by camaj
Electron is visa though :confused:

Okay, totally off-topic here, but this is why...

Electron cards are designed for people with poor/no credit history. All transactions carried out using an Electron card have to be verified between the retailer and your bank AT THE TIME OF THE TRANSACTION. This is so that you ONLY spend funds in your account and do not go overdrawn.

A lot of purchases on "normal" VISA cards (i.e. Delta and Credit) are not verified in this way as the strain of sending every single transaction across the VISA network would bring the whole thing to it's knees.

This is why the majority of e-tailers and other on-line payment systems won't / can't accept Electron cards as they are not setup to verify the transaction when you click your "order" button.

Hope that helps!!

Cheers,

Ryan

Harsin
12-06-2004, 20:39
I'm playing tonight, add me to your friends list and I'll join you.

Already played Mattkbishop, and although I got thrashed soundly was still great fun.

Matt KB
12-06-2004, 20:47
Originally posted by Harsin
I'm playing tonight, add me to your friends list and I'll join you.

Already played Mattkbishop, and although I got thrashed soundly was still great fun.


:D

M@rtin
12-06-2004, 23:18
If we're talking PGR2 then you don't know the meaning of thrashed yet :D

craigizmo2k2
20-06-2004, 14:18
Right, everyone else is doing it so i'm going to "tag" along.

Get the pun!?

Anyone got a free live trial voucher spare that I can steal the code from??

Thanks :notworthy

camaj
23-06-2004, 23:32
Anyone else getting loads of notifications from Full speccy warrior tonight? I got 19 from frumer in about 90mins and a similar amount from another guy playing the game.

Matt KB
24-06-2004, 07:40
Notifications? What like you mean friends invites or something? What's a frumer?

camaj
24-06-2004, 19:48
Sorry Frumper. No, I mean notifications via msn. But it only happens in those circumstances

Matt KB
24-06-2004, 20:21
I'm going on Splinter Cell now if anyone fancies it :D

camaj
25-06-2004, 00:52
He says, during the most important footie match of the year :nono:

I keep forgetting to re-add you to my friends list. Getting the same notifications but with Tarantar tonight

And tonight again. So isn't anyone else getting loads of notifications?

Matt KB
10-07-2004, 20:21
Some good races with coolsurfer on PGR tonight. You did pretty well mate, was good fun :)