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getting a new omega watch in Glasgow and I am currently negotiatingw ith 2 reatilers...on price....but both wont really budge on the £1600 price - the seamaster diver automatic....blue bezel
whats the cheapest I could get this ?
No internet sales !
Have you tried Argos?
Moving to the Suppliers Forum...
BigDonut
08-03-2004, 13:30
JohnLewis?
Littlewoods Index
Stevensons Jewlers not sure where they are but they should be reasonably priced
1600 quid for a watch are you mad
dbilsborough
08-03-2004, 13:33
Try some of the independent jewellers, they are usually able to offer a discount if you ask...
got 7% off my £3,350 Rolex just for asking (and everyone told me that I would never get a discount when buying a Rolex :lol: )
My watch was from Prestons of Bolton - not that near to you, but could be worth a call....
They can only say no!
what i spend my money on has nothing to do with you....
I am getting a timnepiece that will last for the rest of my life....not a £25.99 peice of tripe....
ps - My fiancee is buying it anyway :O)
Shakey21
08-03-2004, 14:01
Originally posted by dbilsborough
Try some of the independent jewellers, they are usually able to offer a discount if you ask...
got 7% off my £3,350 Rolex just for asking (and everyone told me that I would never get a discount when buying a Rolex :lol: )
I think this depends on the model, which model have you got?
My Sea-dweller is one that you won't get any cheaper unless the dealer has been very unlucky in having one in stock for ages, most dealers only get about 2 or 3 of these a year and Watches of switzerland in Birmingham have a 7 year waiting list (or they did when I got mone 2 years ago).
Celtic, try these guys, they say its new:
http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/catalogue/product_details.aspx?id=619
S1LVERBACK
08-03-2004, 14:07
i bought a full size omega seamaster pro and got nothing off at all lol,did get a couple of hundred of a tag heuer monaco but that went back 1 day after i bought it,hence the no discount on the omega because it was half the price and the assistant didnt wanna refund me lol.just for the record the omega was a 1000 times better than the tag:thumbs:
I get the impression thats why there are no discounts - closed dealer network....
spoke to moega and they say ONLY ever buy form a dealer otherwise they will never service your watch !
I am going for the omega seamaster diver chronographer (auto)
I get the impression thats why there are no discounts - closed dealer network....
spoke to omega and they say ONLY ever buy form a dealer otherwise they will never service your watch !
I am going for the omega seamaster diver chronographer (auto) RRP £1600 - and very few people actually have them in stock !
give these guys an email
http://www.thomas-skipton.co.uk/omegaseamasterprofessional.htm
PS my seamaster needs to go back for a service...it's £150 a pop apparently :gag:
They say they are foffcial agents....but ....not the best web site !
if you dont buy it licenced you cant get it offically serviced by omega ;O)
and they are still the same price as the high street :O)
Celtic
I had no trouble getting a 15% discount when I asked. Didn't buy as I sourced a Seamaster chronometer for £600.
and yeah the website is a bit poo. :D
yeah but is your watch real ?
This is the real issue...no offence but 70% of internet watch sales are FAKE !
horrible but true...my mate got stung for £800
so where did u get yours ???
I actually went to the Thomas shop in Skipton so they do exist as I wasn't about to spent the better part of £1k on the internet.
and yeah, mine is real, purchased from an official dealer. I guess it was a a one off deal.
also for those that have expensive timepieces. The orginal packaging and warranty card can affect prices by about £100 if you don't have them.
yep but as I say the tomas skipton shop are the same price as everyone else....anyway thanks folks....the missus just paid the deposit....
as the saying goes....
a good watch is for life....not for easter :O)
SpankySpanky
08-03-2004, 16:13
Originally posted by Celtic
I get the impression thats why there are no discounts - closed dealer network....
spoke to omega and they say ONLY ever buy form a dealer otherwise they will never service your watch !
I am going for the omega seamaster diver chronographer (auto) RRP £1600 - and very few people actually have them in stock !
I'm confused. You say you are buying a £1600 watch to last a lifetime, but then you and other Omega buyers are talking about £150 services? Are these like miniature cars, or summat? What could (should!) possibly go wrong on a £1600 watch that would require a £150 'service'?? Not being 'funny' I genuinely don't understand...
:confused: :confused:
SS
Celtic, I got the 15% discount purely by emailing them and asking if they can do a better price.. Also, if you look on the official omega site they are listed as official dealers.
Spanky these watches are mechanical devices which require maintenance in the long term ie every few years to the mechanism.
and if you think that's strange a £20 Timex quartz watch will keep better time than a £10k Rolex :nuts:
rsykes2000
08-03-2004, 16:31
Originally posted by SpankySpanky
I'm confused. You say you are buying a £1600 watch to last a lifetime, but then you and other Omega buyers are talking about £150 services? Are these like miniature cars, or summat? What could (should!) possibly go wrong on a £1600 watch that would require a £150 'service'?? Not being 'funny' I genuinely don't understand...
:confused: :confused:
SS
Expensive watches have many tens (or hundreds in complicated ones) of tiny moving parts (movement can run at 28,800 vibrations per hour and upwards) that needs regular oiling and cleaning. Gaskets to ensure water resistance don't last forever. All this needs to be done by someone who knows the watches inside out and this sort of speciality doesn't come cheap.
Try CostCo in Springburn Rd.They have around three Omega models iirc.
bruce-leroy
08-03-2004, 19:57
Last year, I bought a full size Omega Seamaster Pro Chronometer from Goldsmiths on the high street. It was £1100 but I asked for 10% discount and they gave it to me. :)
rumbletum
08-03-2004, 21:47
Originally posted by SpankySpanky
Are these like miniature cars, or summat? What could (should!) possibly go wrong on a £1600 watch that would require a £150 'service'?
My grandparents bought my old man an Omega seamaster on his 18th birthday (1963), think they spent a couple hundred quid on it (60s money) and its had 2-3 services during its lifetime.
OK, he probably could have bought a new Timex/Casio every year with the money spent, but he's now got a watch that emotionally means something to him, and financially is still worth a fair bit too
raysablade
08-03-2004, 23:01
I'm plucking up the courage to buy myself a Rolex. The quality argument is all very well but £2000 could make a huge difference if i gave it to Oxfam.
If its of any interest i'm torn between the GMT II and the Datejust. I don't think I could risk getting it of the net but the prices here are the ones I'm aiming for.
http://www.finestwatches.co.uk/
The point is that they do Omega as well and this might be a lever with your jeweler.
S1LVERBACK
08-03-2004, 23:13
You can separate the men from the boys by the price of their toys !
samuelowens
09-03-2004, 10:06
Raysablade, if you want a quality watch made by Rolex, why not just buy a Tudor for 1/2 the price...
bollecks
09-03-2004, 12:52
If you can afford a £2k watch, I guess you holiday abroad:
Dubai & Hong Kong have no sales tax and USA is cheaper with recent fall in the dollar. Look to save at least the cost of your flight!
Worth waiting for you hols. Just make sure you wear it through customs on the way back.
dbilsborough
09-03-2004, 13:51
Originally posted by raysablade
I'm plucking up the courage to buy myself a Rolex. The quality argument is all very well but £2000 could make a huge difference if i gave it to Oxfam.
If its of any interest i'm torn between the GMT II and the Datejust. I don't think I could risk getting it of the net but the prices here are the ones I'm aiming for.
http://www.finestwatches.co.uk/
The point is that they do Omega as well and this might be a lever with your jeweler.
I went for the Datejust, as it looks as good with jeans as it does with a dinner jacket :dork:
sorry but if you check most AUTHORISED USA dealers they have upped their price to reflect the dollar change :O)
karellen
09-03-2004, 14:50
Originally posted by Celtic
getting a new omega watch in Glasgow and I am currently negotiatingw ith 2 reatilers...on price....but both wont really budge on the £1600 price - the seamaster diver automatic....blue bezel
...
Are you at liberty to say which retailers?
I got just over £100 off my Seamaster Professional Automatic about 6 years ago from a store in Glasgow.
Only had to have it serviced once - because I dropped it on a hard floor.
Originally posted by Celtic
spoke to moega and they say ONLY ever buy form a dealer otherwise they will never service your watch !
Or buy it from a friend in the trade - I got almost 60% off my Omega (slightly less than you're spending) and it came directly from the manufacturer (and has been serviced by them since).
Originally posted by samuelowens
Raysablade, if you want a quality watch made by Rolex, why not just buy a Tudor for 1/2 the price... Quite so, Rolex make the case and do the branding, Tudor make the mechanisms.
Originally posted by karellen
Only had to have it serviced once - because I dropped it on a hard floor. It's worth being aware that quality automatic watches are like cars they DO need to be serviced. I think Omega say every 2 years and the cost is usually £100-200 but the killer is the delay........ 6+ weeks often
karellen
09-03-2004, 15:29
Originally posted by Tenex
It's worth being aware that quality automatic watches are like cars they DO need to be serviced. I think Omega say every 2 years and the cost is usually £100-200 but the killer is the delay........ 6+ weeks often
Tell me about it.
I sent mine back to Omega (in England) at the start of last October for the repair and service and didn't get it back until mid December.
Also, contact Omega directly. The jewellers I bought my watch from wanted £185 to service it and their "in house expert" was going to do it themselves :eek:
I contacted Omega themselves and they did it for £110.
S1LVERBACK
09-03-2004, 15:32
Originally posted by karellen
Tell me about it.
I sent mine back to Omega (in England) at the start of last October for the repair and service and didn't get it back until mid December.
christ didnt you get a loaner lol,looks like i better get a back up one just incase lol.
I would'nt bother with an expensive watch if i were you. I did this once and bought a Rado for £1000. Once you scratch the face it spoils the whole thing and you want to either fix it or change it.
I never wear my Rado anymore, it's sitting in my drawer. Instead i wear a N ixon Rocker, which i also love but at £50 from Ebay if i scratch it i can either by another or buy a different model.
Don't buy one, it's great until the face get scratched.
Jason
karellen
09-03-2004, 22:17
Originally posted by Jason
...
Don't buy one, it's great until the face get scratched.
..
Mine has a scratch resistant crystal and looks as new as the day I bought it despite being bumped and knocked loads of times.
Originally posted by karellen
Mine has a scratch resistant crystal and looks as new as the day I bought it despite being bumped and knocked loads of times.
Maybe, but Rado's are supposed to be made with "high-tech ceramics and sapphire crystal".
Eventually you will scratch the face and you will be gutted. Maybe not today, mabe not this week or this year but it will happen.
Jason
Originally posted by karellen
Mine has a scratch resistant crystal and looks as new as the day I bought it despite being bumped and knocked loads of times. Have to agree with that - I have a few watches but always wear the Omega every day and the bracelet is more scratched than the glass, which is absolutely clear and I've had it for about 6 years or more.
Originally posted by Jason
Don't buy one, it's great until the face get scratched.
Jason Rado are simply a silly design but that aside with any other watch if the glass is scratched and bothers you wouldn't it be wise to simply replace the glass? What's the point of having an expensive watch sitting in your sock drawer?
I should say the finest Rolex I ever saw was on the wrist of a French deep sea diver - all gold obviously - hammered and dented and thoroughly used. Not what the typical Rolex owner would do to their watch.....
Originally posted by karellen
I contacted Omega themselves and they did it for £110.
Can I ask which model that was for? My Seamaster Auto is in need of a service and I thought it was going to be £150 or so. It only runs for a day and a half on a wind now so I guess it's overdue (7 years old)
bollecks
10-03-2004, 15:08
Originally posted by Jason
I would'nt bother with an expensive watch if i were you. I did this once and bought a Rado for £1000. Once you scratch the face it spoils the whole thing and you want to either fix it or change it.
I never wear my Rado anymore, it's sitting in my drawer. Instead i wear a N ixon Rocker, which i also love but at £50 from Ebay if i scratch it i can either by another or buy a different model.
Don't buy one, it's great until the face get scratched.
Jason
If you buy a Rolex or Omega, you can get the sapphire faceplate replaced. In fact, it's a common practice amongst secondhand watch dealers. (The dodgy ones don't always use original manufacturer parts either)
Originally posted by Jason
Don't buy one, it's great until the face get scratched
I wear my Tag every day and i often get comments regarding the appearence of it, fresh as the day i got it.
raysablade
10-03-2004, 17:47
Originally posted by samuelowens
Raysablade, if you want a quality watch made by Rolex, why not just buy a Tudor for 1/2 the price...
I have looked into this. The Tudor range is actually quite limited now and "post Tiger" watches have more limited links with Rolex.
I picked this up from a discussion group it seems definitive.
""Post Tiger" refers to their advertising tie up with Tiger Woods from 2000 onwards. This coincided with the change in strategy at Tudor. The pre-tiger Tudor has Rolex marked chrono pushers and winding crown. The caseback states it is a Rolex case and it comes with a Tudor signed bracelet. The movement is a modified ETA, I think. The Tiger models have Tudor marked chrono pushers and winding crown. I am not sure about the caseback but the bracelets are Tudor signed. The movement in the Tiger models is a valjoux movement, I think. Although the cases are the same basic ones the Tudor and Rolex models are somewhat different. As far as the product lines go they used to be very similar, with the exception of the movements but in the late 90's there was a divergence so as to distinguish the two product lines from each other. Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, the Tudor is a poor relative of the Rolex. Others see it as an option that offers the toughness of the Rolex but at a discount because of the non-rolex movements and the lack of the Rolex crown."
bollecks
10-03-2004, 18:15
Originally posted by samuelowens
Raysablade, if you want a quality watch made by Rolex, why not just buy a Tudor for 1/2 the price...
Try doing a deal for 500Ks worth of Heroin with Tudors and you'll get very short shrift.
Unlike every other watch, Rolex's hold their value. You'll always get your money back on a 2nd hand purchase and new models are used as high value portable currency by criminals for a very good reason.
samuelowens
11-03-2004, 11:54
... which means that Tudor may well be a better bet for an everyday watch in that there is a much greater likelihood that you will still be wearing said Tudor watch at the end of the day because the average crim doesn't know what it is. ;)
The rumours I've heard floating around on newsgroups and the web are that the Tudor/ETA link may be severed in the near future and that Tudor's movements may be made in-house (a polite way of saying by Rolex)...
(Me, I like my ETA-movement-based automatic Swatch Body and Soul, cost 80 quid)
Go to the Canaries and you'll get a free holiday out of it. Got my Seamaster professional last year in Gran canaria for eur1130 (about £730 at the excange rate at the time.). Fully authorised dealer (checked before I went) international warranty and he included a full dealer manual with all the mechanisms not just the basic model specific instructions. I've also (very sad) got the chronometer certificate from Omega.
I just got back fro Corallejo in Fuerteventura and they had an Omega dealer there as well. e-mail them before you go to check they have the watch available and the holiday and watch will probably cost about the same as the watch in the UK. Just remember to eclare it and pay the vat when you get back;) .
If you buy enough fags and booze there you may be able to finance the whole purchase after a couple of trips to the barras.
I wear mine everyday (except when I was away though) and it makes me smile everytime I look at it, as you said these are a timepiece and not just a watch.
Chivalry
17-03-2004, 16:15
well.. i think your mad.... who in ther right mind would spend that ammount of money on a watch.... and not buy a Breitling!!! :norty: :norty:
S1LVERBACK
17-03-2004, 16:23
lmao a breitling jesus they look like the 20 quid watches from argos lol huge faces,massive dials you will never use lol
check this link lol http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1751&productId=85976&Trail=C$cip=12868>C$cip=12878>C$cip=12880&categoryId=12880
breitlings are at argos for a fraction of the price :norty: :norty:
Link fixed - Alan
SpankySpanky
17-03-2004, 16:30
I read somewhere that quartz watches are actually more accurate at keeping the correct time. Is this true??
SS
S1LVERBACK
17-03-2004, 16:32
quartz are more acurate than automatic im pretty sure of it
Originally posted by SpankySpanky
I read somewhere that quartz watches are actually more accurate at keeping the correct time. Is this true??
SS You'd hop so after the millions invested in their development .... however, my automatic Omega gains about 6 seconds a week and that's OK by me ;)
SpankySpanky
17-03-2004, 17:14
So you don't buy an Omega cos you want the right time on your wrist??
:confused:
:D
SS
NICKDAVIES
17-03-2004, 17:15
Quartz are definitely more accurate - as has been mentioned further up the post, the ETA/other Swiss movements are hand made automatic movements. The quartz movement vibrates many more times per second than the automatic does and therefore keeps much better time - the atomic clock takes this to a whole new level of vibration though! :D
I guess it's about having a life long time piece rather than just a watch, in the same way that an Aston Martin still only goes from A to B.
SpankySpanky
17-03-2004, 17:19
Originally posted by NICKDAVIES
Quartz are definitely more accurate - as has been mentioned further up the post, the ETA/other Swiss movements are hand made automatic movements. The quartz movement vibrates many more times per second than the automatic does and therefore keeps much better time - the atomic clock takes this to a whole new level of vibration though! :D
I guess it's about having a life long time piece rather than just a watch, in the same way that an Aston Martin still only goes from A to B.
Yep, a status symbol, then. Because if it doesn't tell the time as accurately as a cheapo quartz, then you can't be buying it merely as a watch? I *think* I'm beginning to understand this better now....
;)
SS
Originally posted by SpankySpanky
So you don't buy an Omega cos you want the right time on your wrist??
If one wanted "the right time" on one's wrist one would invest solely in an atomic sync'd model and not a bog standard "quartz".
I have no need for a greater accuracy than approx a second a day error. In my case the wall mounted atomic clocks would suffice (and they were bought to avoid the twice yearly ritual of BST/GMT rather than for absolute accuracy).
bruce-leroy
17-03-2004, 21:38
Originally posted by NICKDAVIES
..in the same way that an Aston Martin still only goes from A to B.
What, no ejector seat? :thinking:
NICKDAVIES
17-03-2004, 22:06
Originally posted by bruce-leroy
What, no ejector seat? :thinking:
I think Q got bored of putting ejector seats in years ago - he's moved on to making the cars invisible now... :lol:
bollecks
18-03-2004, 11:53
Originally posted by Tenex
If one wanted "the right time" on one's wrist one would invest solely in an atomic sync'd model and not a bog standard "quartz".
I had an atomic synced alarm clock. It's accurate up to the point where it misinterprits the signal. Suddenly found myself getting woken up over three hours early.
They only go wrong about twice a year, but when they do they really go wrong!
A cheap Casio plastic digital watch is more accurate than a £5,000 Rolex, but that really isn't the point.
Interesting these are 2+ years old and no errors so far.
Try
http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/watches_omega.htm
Established local jewellers in Hull who will offer 15% discount on most watches. Is the one you're looking for the one at £1390? I think they get around any problems with manufacturers by advertising the new watches as 2nd hand but "UNUSED".
I've seen the stock in the window and they all look brand new to me.
Dealers have plenty of margin on these and I got 3 local jewellers offering me between 10 and 15% discount when I went looking for a sea master
i have a steel sea-master - great watch
also a Tag kinetic (£775) - not so good if you dont wear day in day out tbh & a hugeee Tag chrono (£1150) which was great until i decided to try and get the battery replaced, took it to Goldsmiths in lakeside. Got the battery fitted after being assured it'd be ok to go diving in etc etc, only a few days later i noticed the second hand didnt return to 12o/c (not good)
after a *discussion* with the manager they refunded my money and agreed to send it to Tag for me in Switzerland, anyway 4 weeks & £130 later i got it back... only for the battery to go flat again abt 18months later, cheaper to buy another watch i thought ( got the Omega) which has been going strong ever since (18 months > 2yrs)
famtastic watches very well made, and not toooo over the top IMO :thumbs:
Brunnen-G
19-03-2004, 16:36
LOL, I thought I was splashing out getting a Pulsar Kinetic for 70 quid :p
It is often cheaper to buy watches abroad. I bought a £700 Tag for £250 when I was in Malaysia. It just shows you what a profit margin these dealers have.
Originally posted by Dutchie
It is often cheaper to buy FAKE watches abroad. I bought a £700 Tag for £250 when I was in Malaysia. It just shows you what a profit margin these dealers have.
Shakey21
19-03-2004, 19:04
I've got a Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 - one of the best pieces of watch engineering in existance, go on and buy a Rolex or an Omega or a Crono Tag - you won't regret it, I didn't.
I'm currently saving for a Rolex Daytona, not sure to go for the stainless steel or the gold one though - oh well only about £6k price difference between the two.
raysablade
19-03-2004, 19:48
Originally posted by Dutchie
It is often cheaper to buy watches abroad. I bought a £700 Tag for £250 when I was in Malaysia. It just shows you what a profit margin these dealers have.
This puts it into perspective. I'm sure the others are similar.
http://www.watchbasics.com/rolex_prices.htm
It an old dollar list but the markups are quite breathtaking. The funny thing is it wouldn't put me off buying one. Indeed the £2000 for an Explorer or a Datejust is burning a hole in my pocket.
Rolex only sell official watches through High Street dealers and if i'm buying something to last a lifetime the realtionship with the dealer is all important.
I know its complete insanity but compared to some cars I have bought that lost over £2000 as I drove away from the garage the pleasure this will give me is a bargain.
And of course all Rolex profits go to charity so who is losing?
Ekko Star
20-03-2004, 20:21
send it to Tag for me in Switzerland, anyway 4 weeks & £130 later i got it back
they did all that cos your second hand didn't reset to 12o'clock ? all they had to do was a basic reset on the watch, which is a standard thing after you re-install a battery.
It's quite common on shared movements.
TBH Tag are simply a rip-off and Omega are not that much better as both these companies actually "buy" in the movements and don't actually manufacture them, themselves. What you are effectively buying is actually a watch "assembled" by Omega.
I'm afraid they've got you by the marketing hype, better to buy a "real" watch.
Shakey21
20-03-2004, 21:22
Originally posted by raysablade
I know its complete insanity but compared to some cars I have bought that lost over £2000 as I drove away from the garage the pleasure this will give me is a bargain.
exactly, put it in perspective and it's something that will last you a lifetime. How many people out there pay £500+ a month on rent? the equivalent of 4 months rent to buy you something that will last you a lifetime and be something that you can give to one of your children as a keepsake that will last them a lifetime too.
Originally posted by Shakey21
I've got a Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 - one of the best pieces of watch engineering in existance, go on and buy a Rolex or an Omega or a Crono Tag - you won't regret it, I didn't.
I'm currently saving for a Rolex Daytona, not sure to go for the stainless steel or the gold one though - oh well only about £6k price difference between the two.
I've got a Rolex GMT Master II, save up and go for the Rolex.
Might as well go for the best.
If you have fine scratches on the glass use a bit of duraglit and elbow grease - comes up a treat. Obviously this doesnt work for scratches of grand canyon proportions tho :D
Originally posted by Kartikp
It is often cheaper to buy FAKE watches abroad.
Sure you can buy a fake Tag watch there for £1, but you can also buy a REAL £750 Tag for £250. I had a few fakes as well just to give for friends as fun pressies :)
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