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I was not a big fan of the original but I know many of you were.
Graphically, it does look pretty smart though. I'm holding out my order for reviews from you guys first.
So has anyone played this yet? :suspect: :D
Nope I'm waiting for Pal this time :eek: :eek: :eek:
Mainly cos I expect to be on Multiplayer a lot, it looks really hot. As does the Single Player.
Am a little worried about difficulty though, reports abound of them "dumbing it down" after the insane difficulty of the first. Bad thing IMO the first was rock hard and good for it, the last level was insane. Whether they will or not who knows, but the extra levels released for the first were dissapointingly easy, good fun but with little challenge. Doesn't bode too well for this IMO. Should still be a cracker though, can't wait :thumbs:
I did not think it was that hard, just time consuming, I have never enjoyed sneaking about in other games before, but I did in SC for some reason.
Jimmyboy
06-03-2004, 15:34
I thought Splinter Cell was excellent, it still looks amazing even today and the difficulty was about perfect imo.
I'm looking forward to SC2: PT.
I think the PAL version is out before the NTSC version. :suspect:
I'm getting seriously excited over the multiplayer. Basically it's only 2 vs 2 but looks absolute quality, sneaking around etc. And you can even listen in on the other teams conversations :D
got this on pre order for 26 quid delivered from amazon
with a little help from kelloggs branflakes of course!
cant wait for it- loved the first one - second best game on xbox after HALO.
Spinning Plates
06-03-2004, 16:16
Originally posted by Ono
I think the PAL version is out before the NTSC version. :suspect:
It's a crappy beta.
TheCookieMonster
06-03-2004, 22:52
Didn't think the first one was that hard at all. As Jimmyboy said the difficulty level was perfect :thumbs:
Dunno, the last level was rock. Not impossible though.
Check out this multiplayer footage of Splinter Cell 2 - The Mercenaries - Availble from IGN here (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/496/496732p1.html).
Looks totally and utterly class.
No one interested then? Coming down around 12.30ish.
I'll drag it off now Matt please.
Go for it.
I think it looks absolute total class, I haven't been this excited for a long time about a game.
coming down now matt - 17 minutes to go
Just started downloading...if thats OK ????
Finished. It looks like a standard FPS now? :confused:
looks top notch
if you are a merc in multiplayer it is in first person- if you are a spy its 3rd person.
cant wait for this now
I'll leave it up a bit longer then ;)
Yeah Geoggy got it nailed basically. As a spy (ala Fisher) you play in 3rd person, night vision, thermo goggles, electric stunners, can only kill in close combat.
Mercenaries are 3rd person, heavy firepower, tripwires etc, motion detectors and electromagnetic detector (see whe Night Vision is in use etc)
IGN did a good report on this here (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/496/496732p2.html). That's where I got the vids from - they are available for non Insiders but at a lower resolution.
Love the fact you can use gadgets to listen in on the others conversation. There's a thing at the moment so only a few details can be released about it. :D Looks so cool.
Finished....Cheers matt
Looks class to me....
Can't wait til its out...loved the first one
Gaz
Thanks for the download Matt. Looks superb!
:notworthy
GCfreako
07-03-2004, 13:44
Don't get your hopes too high :D
My mate's worked on it and he said lots of things have been rushed.
Originally posted by GCfreako
Don't get your hopes too high :D
My mate's worked on it and he said lots of things have been rushed.
Such as? Haven't seen anything anywhere that sounds like it's going to be a dissapointment other than the rumour it's going to be easier than the previous one.
GCfreako
07-03-2004, 14:05
I don't have any details. All I can say is that another colleague went to play it in December and wasn't too impressed.
First impression - looks amazing, still suffers from that thing where the top refreshes slightly before the bottom which is a shame.
Controls have changed - left click sticks you to a wall, A is reload, white allows you to WHISTLE now which I'm sure will be useful. Gotta go learn stuff now though :(
Originally posted by mattkbishop
First impression - looks amazing, still suffers from that thing where the top refreshes slightly before the bottom which is a shame.
Controls have changed - left click sticks you to a wall, A is reload, white allows you to WHISTLE now which I'm sure will be useful. Gotta go learn stuff now though :(
I take it you dont plan on going on "LIVE " with it matt ?
Originally posted by platty
I take it you dont plan on going on "LIVE " with it matt ?
I sure do matey, I'll be getting the Pal version on release :)
I hear you can use the headset to "whisper" in the enemies ears if you grab them from behind before killing them, nice touch i thought :D
thesnowman
10-03-2004, 10:43
Got this pre ordere from play. Cant wait to play it the first one was the hardest game I ever finished, that CIA level drove me nuts. The multi looks ace as well, I also heard that when the spy sneaks up on the merc the voice comms cut to the guy that you are going to kill and u get to say something before u kill him. sweeet :clap:
I'm contemplating skipping my lecture to go back to my room and play it.....
Mr Flibble
10-03-2004, 11:01
I'm currently playing the first Splinter Cell game on the gamecube - which I'm really enjoying, any idea if this game will appear on the gamecube too?
Originally posted by Mr Flibble
I'm currently playing the first Splinter Cell game on the gamecube - which I'm really enjoying, any idea if this game will appear on the gamecube too?
I heard it wasn't coming out for Gamecube, but that was before Christmas, 3 months is a lifetime in software development
played this the last couple of nights myself, damn good game, fans of the first will be pleased
as for crappy beta, well if this is crappy, then i cannot wait for the "non-crappy" one ;)
anyways, few new features added that make it better..like the fact you can no longer run and hide 2 feet from your enemy who has spotted you..he no longer goes "hmm..must have been a fat cat knocking over milk bottles again" but instead puts a few rounds in your chest!
the red dot on your aim is good too, although last night it got me caught out, as they react to it!
the multiplayer element is good, very creepy environments, a good atmosphere, good maps (big maps). The fps bit is done well..if only the one player game allowed you to alternate views :(
role on the 26th!
SudzMaBallZ
10-03-2004, 13:12
Yeh i've been playing it the last few days as well... single player is pretty much the same except better graphics....
Online is were this game becomes ace, makes rainbow six3 look so bad... you should all play on xbconnect if you havent already... the game is the daddy!
come play on xbconnect www.xbconnect.com later on :thumbs:
fivebyfive
10-03-2004, 13:19
Originally posted by Mr Flibble
I'm currently playing the first Splinter Cell game on the gamecube - which I'm really enjoying, any idea if this game will appear on the gamecube too?
the GC and ps2 versions have been delayed
http://cube.ign.com/articles/490/490003p1.html
The GBA SP verson is kinda similar to the original on GBA as well. Not a bad thing considering the first one was pretty decent on GBA. :D :suspect:
Surely you mean GC original, seeing as the GBA SP and GBA versions would be the same :p
Just started playing PT tonight, seems pretty good if you liked the first one. Haven't got that far into it though.
Also tried the new Tenchu game - not impressed, still suffers from the jerky camera of previous versions... The first one is still the best for me.
Sorry, I meant that Pandora Tomorrow on the GBA is very similar to the original Splinter Cell on the GBA.
Both are decent for the li'l old GBA.
:thumbs:
LiGhTfast
11-03-2004, 09:32
Originally posted by M@rtin
Surely you mean GC original, seeing as the GBA SP and GBA versions would be the same :p
Just started playing PT tonight, seems pretty good if you liked the first one. Haven't got that far into it though.
Also tried the new Tenchu game - not impressed, still suffers from the jerky camera of previous versions... The first one is still the best for me.
online is were is shines :)
Originally posted by LiGhTfast
online is were is shines :)
.... Online... is where it shines? :p
Just a note for people who are playing now, can we be careful about spoiler related stuff please, I've stopped playing after the first couple of quick save points now and no nothing about any other levels (aside from one), I'm sure others want the surprise also :)
Mr Flibble
11-03-2004, 09:53
If there are any other Gamecube owners interested, I've just seen this game up for pre-order on dvdboxoffice.com with a release date of May 11th. The price on their is $(cad)66.95 :)
One for me to look into I think - I've only got 4 games for my gamecube,but splinter cell is one of my favourites :)
--edit--
Although reading the games synopsis, it sounds like they are describing the first game :confused:
Computer and Video Games magazine gave this....
Graphics - 96
Sound - 91
Gameplay - 93
Lasting Appeal - 93
Overall 94
:thumbs:
One thing I noticed last night is that Sam Fisher has the same taste in gadgets as me - I had a Palm Tungsten when the first game was out, now I have a P900 too! :dork:
any clues why its called Pandora tomorrow?
The following might give you a chuckle
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030526l.jpg
lOVE THIS GAME!
Watch out for the bit where you start the dockyard level and a forklift truck driven by Ryu crashes through the wall! JEEBUS, that made me jump!:nuts:
Originally posted by t@xman
lOVE THIS GAME!
Watch out for the bit where you start the dockyard level and a forklift truck driven by Ryu crashes through the wall! JEEBUS, that made me jump!:nuts:
Spoiler or wind up?
.....AND THE BIT WHERE YOU'RE WEARING THE NIGHT VISSION GOGGLES AND THEY THROW FLASHBANGS IN AND YOU HAVE TO QUICKLY SWAP VISSION OR YOU'RE BLINDED! - ABSOLUTELY INSPIRED!:D
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
steve morris
15-03-2004, 19:48
anyone up for some online play tonight??
Jimmyboy
16-03-2004, 16:58
Do you still run the risk of screen burn thanks to the night vision mode on SC2?
Screen burn :o :eek:
I never heard of that on the first one...
Is this game actually out yet?, how can you have a game tonight if its not out?... if it is out, who's got their copy and where from? (and how much)
I suspect they are not strictly legal :o
Gamecentral did a review yesterday and a whole feature on the xbox live stuff. Sounded utterly cool and if the xbox was smaller I'd consider getting one now especially if Pro Evo 3 was XBL. I'm seriously considering getting an xbox 2 and if It's compatilble with GC2 in some way it might be my only purchase
Don't be put off by the size, use it's big and bulky but the PS2 is longer and the Cube is taller. Size is a poor reason to miss out IMO ;)
And Pro Evo 4 is on Xbox in Sept/Oct :D
Originally posted by mattkbishop
the PS2 is longer and the Cube is taller.And Pro Evo 4 is on Xbox in Sept/Oct :D
Oops, meant 4 not 3. XB1 is taller than the PS2 and far wider than the cube. It's by far the bulkiest console. Then there are the other reasons
Size is a stupid reason not to buy an Xbox - it's not like you have to carry it around like a gameboy :cuckoo:.
It's easily the best out of the bunch and I've owned all 3 at some stage.
AngryFlower
17-03-2004, 19:45
The PC SP Demo dropped tonight - 120Mb!!! :eek:
Originally posted by 007
Size is a stupid reason not to buy an Xbox - it's not like you have to carry it around like a gameboy :cuckoo:.
No but you have to look at it (ugly) and you have to put it somewhere. My cube fits nicely under the desk and the xbox would be in the way. The xbox 2 is probably going to be a bit smaller. Of course if the GC2 has a decent online thing and some of the xbox games I'd only need one console.
Originally posted by 007
Size is a stupid reason not to buy an Xbox - it's not like you have to carry it around like a gameboy :cuckoo:.
OKAY OKAY!!! STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT :mad: Fine I'll go and buy a bloody xbox if it'll stop you lot nagging :brickwall
:D
How much do you reckon for this lot:
1 x Black Official Microsoft Xbox
1 x AV Leads With Euro AV Adaptor
1 x Power Adaptor
1 x Scart with Optical Output (for better picture and sound quality)
1 x Optical Lead (for extreme sound quality in dolby digital)
1 x Black Official Microsoft Controller
2 x Black Official Microsoft Controller S (smaller version of the original, for people with smaller hands)
1 x Official Microsoft Xbox Live! (unused and still has the 12 months subscription free) [live starter kit????]
Games:
Project Gotham Racing
Colin Mcraey Rally 3
Midnight Club 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Dead Or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball
House Of The Dead 3
Toca Race Driver
been playing it today, its a good game and this is coming from someone who hates stealth, I didn't even enjoy the original.
best bit so far,
crawling under the train, it looked great
The plot goes over my head, too much going on, it'll probably get clearer as I progress.
Originally posted by camaj
How much do you reckon for this lot?
Anyone? :searchme:
Goto an online shop and add it up yuorself :lol: I doubt anyone has all the prices memorised in their head.
I really don't know if I should get this for the PC or Xbox....decisions decisions....
I never played the original on the xbox so I don't know what the controls are like, but I would assume that in bits where you have to aim, the PC is best due to the mouse...does the PC version have multiplayer?
The aiming is done well on the Xbox version, it's not tricky and very responsive due to the analogue sticks. Also, if you get the Xbox version you can join in the fun on Live :D
Idle Child
20-03-2004, 18:56
Might have already been mentioned but PC Gamer gave SC2 around (85% - or there abouts). One of the criticisms in the "things it's not" was something like polished, or finished i can't remember which.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
The aiming is done well on the Xbox version, it's not tricky
the pistol is tricky, I couldnt understand why I couldnt shoot out lights, only after switching to the infa-red crosshair you notice how wobby the aim is. Not a fault, its the way its supposed to be, maybe Sam just loses his nerve with a little gun. :D
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Also, if you get the Xbox version you can join in the fun on Live :D
No, I don't think I'm going to pay for something I can get free.
Originally posted by Saber
Goto an online shop and add it up yuorself :lol: I doubt anyone has all the prices memorised in their head.
:lol: I'm talking as a ssecond hand bundle! Sorry I thought it was obvious from the listing. Working it out would be very easy if it were from a shop
Originally posted by Saber
No, I don't think I'm going to pay for something I can get free.
What can you get for free? Online play on the PC? I don't think it's the same and with XBL you can play the forumites!
Originally posted by Goblin
the pistol is tricky, I couldnt understand why I couldnt shoot out lights, only after switching to the infa-red crosshair you notice how wobby the aim is. Not a fault, its the way its supposed to be, maybe Sam just loses his nerve with a little gun. :D
Yep the pistol is tricky, but that's down to it supposed to be rather than the controls, like you say.
I can't get over how nice the game looks, the water effects are superb.
Originally posted by camaj
What can you get for free? Online play on the PC? I don't think it's the same and with XBL you can play the forumites!
Well I have not really heard anything about the PC version, TBH I thought SC2 was going to be xbox exclusive for a couple of months like the first one, until about a week when I looked it up.
I don't know if PC SC2 has multiplayer or what kind of modes it has....
For xbox I was actually talking about using XBLink as it is free. Live seems like a con to me.
But ultimately I want whichever version if best, I've not had my xbox long, and so far have only played ninja gaiden, i don't like the idea of FPS on a console, I gave halo a try and I hated it, I need my mouse, and it seems to me that in situations where i need to be precise (like shooting lights, or headshots) and I need to do it fast, that the mouse is best.
Heck, I didnt like Goldeneye on the N64 either.
Jimmyboy
21-03-2004, 03:04
I luved Splinter Cell on the xbox and can't imagine playing it without a nice big bulky 10 ton pad. :thumbs:
Originally posted by Saber
Well I have not really heard anything about the PC version, TBH I thought SC2 was going to be xbox exclusive for a couple of months like the first one, until about a week when I looked it up.
I don't know if PC SC2 has multiplayer or what kind of modes it has....
For xbox I was actually talking about using XBLink as it is free. Live seems like a con to me.
But ultimately I want whichever version if best, I've not had my xbox long, and so far have only played ninja gaiden, i don't like the idea of FPS on a console, I gave halo a try and I hated it, I need my mouse, and it seems to me that in situations where i need to be precise (like shooting lights, or headshots) and I need to do it fast, that the mouse is best.
Heck, I didnt like Goldeneye on the N64 either.
System Link might not offer all the same modes as live though - plus you don't get voice chat.
And I have to say - Live is REALLY cool. Loving it.
Space Duck
21-03-2004, 13:59
I myself am looking forward to this, although god knows why, I ran out of bullets during the first mission on the first game and gave up right after that lol but as a devotee to live, I cannot say no!!!!!
Mr Matt sir? Are you a member of Britxbox? :confused:
Space Duck
21-03-2004, 16:26
Guess that's a no... Its a site for uk players... mainly forums for UK Clans :)
I'm just waiting for the clan match aspect with that little whatsit that allows you to track and listen to the other team for a limited amount of time :) Can you imagine the nastyness that could be heard.... :lol:
MetalGearAl
21-03-2004, 17:37
As far as I know the PC has the exact same multiplayer modes as the X-Box one?
Just finished the demo, gotta agree that the game looks great when you're crawling under the train :D
I guess the plot seems odd as you're dropped right in the middle of the game - kind of like watching Mission Impossible starting one hour in and trying to understand it :D
Originally posted by MetalGearAl
As far as I know the PC has the exact same multiplayer modes as the X-Box one?
Seems to be but I don't think they've got the voice option in the PC version. Personally I'd much rather play people on the forum than a bunch of (usually annoying) strangers.
Anyone know the cheapest option for purchase on launch day? I know amazon have it for £30 and supposedly they send it the day before release. I've got a £5 off voucher for HMV if anyone knows what there prices are like.
By the way MGA, I saw someone leaving an IRC channel called #bt was that you or someone with your name?
Pork Chop Express
21-03-2004, 18:29
Ive gone for Play at £29.99. Just hope they have enough stock :suspect:
MetalGearAl
21-03-2004, 18:37
Originally posted by camaj
By the way MGA, I saw someone leaving an IRC channel called #bt was that you or someone with your name?
Maybe :suspect:
Originally posted by camaj
Seems to be but I don't think they've got the voice option in the PC version. Personally I'd much rather play people on the forum than a bunch of (usually annoying) strangers.
Anyone know the cheapest option for purchase on launch day? I know amazon have it for £30 and supposedly they send it the day before release. I've got a £5 off voucher for HMV if anyone knows what there prices are like.
Yep the forums massive seems to be going Xbox for Live, I know a lot of the Rainbow guys are. :thumbs:
I've ordered from Amazon, the Estimated date is the weekend but they have to say that as you're not supposed to have it before street date, although if you pre-order they'll ship as soon as they receive it supposedly.
Expect HMV to pack the usual £40 price tag.
Space Duck
21-03-2004, 20:42
Hope it doesn't suffer from Tenchuesque lag... just two players in that game and it always seems to have trouble coping... :( will be taking it back for Links :(
TheCookieMonster
21-03-2004, 20:42
I've found that amazon are sometimes slow to release games. I've personally gone with Play. Does anyone know how long play takes to deliver (haven't used them in ages) :D .
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Yep the forums massive seems to be going Xbox for Live, I know a lot of the Rainbow guys are. :thumbs:
That's one of the main reasons I'm getting an XBOX
if you pre-order they'll ship as soon as they receive it supposedly.
Expect HMV to pack the usual £40 price tag.
That's what I saw on amazon too. I'm sure I was reading someone talking about recieving a game on (or before?) it's release. I just don't remember who. I don't want to wait until saturday but I'd also like it cheaper than HMV. :thinking:
Originally posted by camaj
That's one of the main reasons I'm getting an XBOX
That's what I saw on amazon too. I'm sure I was reading someone talking about recieving a game on (or before?) it's release. I just don't remember who. I don't want to wait until saturday but I'd also like it cheaper than HMV. :thinking:
ive gone with amazon - but these guys usually get it to you on time - but dont blame me if they dont!
http://www.gamesplanet.co.uk/Video-Games/Xbox-Games/Coming%2BSoon/Xbox/Splinter+Cell+2%3A+Pandora+Tomorrow/_/CLASS/Product/DBID/cc90a44f6c3ef71cce3b33ba8ef4b583/FORMAT/XB/SUBNAV/Coming+Soon
As for lag, I dont think they'll be any. Ubisoft have really nailed it with Rainbow 6 3, I can host up to 8 people at once inc. me with no lag, but I've player on both 10 and 16 people servers that have been full and run fine. SC2 has more detail than Rainbow but I'm confident there won't be any lag.
Really looking forward to it.
Btw, take a look here
http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/552/552407/vids_1.html
Video's 4&5 show a pretty funny multiplayer kill :thumbs:
This is the most detailed description of the multiplayer stuff I've read
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/496/496732p1.html
Pork Chop Express
23-03-2004, 11:07
Packing at Play :clap: Only finished the original yesterday.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
As for lag, I dont think they'll be any. Ubisoft have really nailed it with Rainbow 6 3, I can host up to 8 people at once inc. me with no lag, but I've player on both 10 and 16 people servers that have been full and run fine. SC2 has more detail than Rainbow but I'm confident there won't be any lag.
Really looking forward to it.
I agree. On RS6, when you enter a 4 man 'Mission' or 'Terrorist Hunt' there is no lag - of course unless you're playing with someone from Oz or someone has a slow connection, then you may see a little.
So, seeing as they've limited these game types to 2vs2 it SC2 should be lag free.
Will this thread be renamed Splinter Cell 2 : Pandora Tomorrow Tomorrow on Thursday ? ;)
I intend to pick this up from Game on Friday, along with my shiny new Crystal Xbox :)
Looks like there'll be plenty of Forumites on Live with it then, shouldn't be a problem finding some decent folks to play it with :)
Originally posted by dan13l
Will this thread be renamed Splinter Cell 2 : Pandora Tomorrow Tomorrow on Thursday ? ;)
When I first opened this thread I was disappoint that "Splinter cell 2: Pandora" wasn't the actual title.
be a problem finding some decent folks to play it with
I'll be there. Don't know if you can describe me as decent :D
There's a single player demo on XB monthly and one on XBox world. Does anyone know if that's a multiplayer one?
Originally posted by camaj
There's a single player demo on XB monthly and one on XBox world. Does anyone know if that's a multiplayer one?
Pretty sure it isn't tbh. If you played the first you don't need to play the demo really, it's more of the same but better in every way :thumbs:
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Pretty sure it isn't tbh. If you played the first you don't need to play the demo really, it's more of the same but better in every way :thumbs:
I don't need to play the demo, I just want to. The multiplayer one really. I'll give the single player a bash later. I didn't play the first SC although I had 10mins on a PC I found it very akward so I hope it's a lot better on a console
anyone have any faith that amazon will deliver on time - even on free delivery?
:confused:
TheCookieMonster
23-03-2004, 16:13
Play have shipped mine :clap:
anyone have any faith that amazon will deliver on time - even on free delivery?
I wouldn't hold out much hope. I've found Amazon to be pretty slow recently shipping stuff, sometimes they don't even ship on the release date :eek:
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
Play have shipped mine :clap:
sometimes amazon don't even ship on the release date :eek:
Looks like I've backed the wrong horse :help:
When did you order with play?
I was wrong about the SC2 demo, it's only a trailer but they did have a SC1 demo. Took a while to get used to (I'm used to the A button being fire on the cube) but everything's laid out perfectly.
the last part is annoying, no matter how stealthy or fast you are
a timer appears
I think its a shallow way to make the last stretch hard. :brickwall
TheCookieMonster
23-03-2004, 18:57
When did you order with play?
Friday. Maybe u should order from play now. They might ship tomorrow if they have enough stock ;)
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
Friday. Maybe u should order from play now. They might ship tomorrow if they have enough stock ;)
Says they're in stock at Play and shipping within 24 hours, ordered from there now and cancelled my Amazon order. Cheaper when you think Amazon charge extra for shipping. So hopefully I'll get it on Thursday. :)
well im sticking with amazon!
so there!
;)
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
Friday. Maybe u should order from play now. They might ship tomorrow if they have enough stock ;)
Yep, saw that Play were packing today so ordered a copy from them this afternoon and it has already been posted. Have Play vastly improved there speed at which they ship new releases?
How easy is it to cancel with play. I don't want to end up paying twice?
I had a quick bash on Rainbow six 3 and the controls were a lot more complex. I also found it hard to move and aim at the same time
Rainbow takes a lot of getting used to mate, mess about with the sensitivity controls. I think mine are on 4 for both X and Y axis.
If you see the little X on outstanding orders, you can cancel with play. Just click it.
Thanks Matt, I'll give that a try.
Now ordered from play. I'll see what happens tomorrow and Thursday and I'll cancel one of them.
I've now signed up for Xbox Live and my tag is camaj (is it case sensitve?). I've added Matt to my friends list
The stuff I listed earlier:
1 x Scart with Optical Output
1 x Optical Lead
1 x Controller
2 x Controller S
1 x Official Microsoft Xbox Live! (unused and still has the 12 months subscription free)
Games:
Project Gotham Racing
Colin Mcraey Rally 3
Midnight Club 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Dead Or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball
House Of The Dead 3
Toca Race Driver
Was £130 inc. p&p. I thought it was a decent price. The only downside is I've just tried the code and it's invalid so it seems like the guy has stitched me up (possibly inadvertantly) :mad:
Also looks like some free maps are on there way for SC2 very soon
Played this yesterday, looks like another fantastic game :thumbs: :clap:
camaj - that's a great price. I thought you'd used the Live free trial though?
If not, I'd buy a new one from GAME, then package it up with the old code, take it back and tell em it's already been used. They'll get a refund from MS anyway.
Camaj - where did you enter the new code?
And no, it's not case sensitive although some games will show the friends list as A-Z then a-z.
thesnowman
24-03-2004, 12:46
Well my copy got send out yesterday along with far cry, but unfortunatly I am spending all my time studying for a linux exam. I have got ut2004 and the pgr2 xbox live set sitting there staring me in the face while I try and learn all the printer switches :mad:
I've seen a few people on my friends list playing this, apparently some branches of Currys have broken the release date again. Anyone seen it in the shops yet?
Re: Case sensitive. Some games will show you as "camaj" as you entered, as opposed to mine - "Party Boy Matt" - as I entered.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
camaj - I thought you'd used the Live free trial though?
The one that came with the headset? What made you think that? I couldn't use the one you sent me if I had.
I could try the game thing but surely they'd smell a rat? People would just by them, use the code and return them.
I entered the code under subscription in the xbox live thing on the dashboard.
Matt I have no idea what you mean :confused: Clearly it wouldn't say your name instead of mine so you can't mean that :thinking:
I wanted to call myself Camaj rather than camaj but I was worried that I'd forget to capatalise the "c" when typing it in for some things get it rejected. I was asking if Camaj and camaj or even CaMaJ were the same thing
Originally posted by camaj
The one that came with the headset? What made you think that? I couldn't use the one you sent me if I had.
I could try the game thing but surely they'd smell a rat? People would just by them, use the code and return them.
I assumed you'd use the trial first then wait to use the actual one.
You could try the GAME thing, nothing to lose really, it'd be in mint condition I take it? Or try it at Virgin? Prolly better there.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
I assumed you'd use the trial first then wait to use the actual one.
Yes, that's what I did. You can't do it the other way around, the 2 month one is for new tags only
No virgin near me since they closed the brent cross one down. There's one in Watford and used to be one in stevenage but I really can't be bothered to go all that way. I don't know about mint but I can't see any damage.
My play order has been posted, but it says 3-5 day delivery! So it would be here on saturday at the earliest. Didn't anyone know!? :cry:
Anyone know what? Sorry I'm a bit lost, I think you should start a new thread mate, this Splinter Cell one is going way O/T. You'd get some better help in a new thread.
Originally posted by camaj
The one that came with the headset? What made you think that? I couldn't use the one you sent me if I had.
I could try the game thing but surely they'd smell a rat? People would just by them, use the code and return them.
If you enterred the trial one that would show an expiry date on the dashboard (31/03/04??).
You can then enter a Yearly sub code at anytime which will just extend the expiry date.
Re the GAME thing. I doubt they'll accept that.
You go back to them saying the code is used, they'll want to replace it with a new one. It would look blatantly obvious if you returned a scratched code and wanted a refund - or wanted to swap it for a Live game. :lol:
Originally posted by Morton
You go back to them saying the code is used, they'll want to replace it with a new one.
Which is what I want though.
Matt, "didn't anyone know" was about the 3 day delievery estimate from play. No one mentioned it so it was assumed that it would arrive the next day which is usually what happens at amazon.
Oh right sorry.
They say 3-5 days to cover their asses. Bet you get it tomorrow ;)
Originally posted by camaj
Which is what I want though.
No you won't.
You have one Live kit with a duff code. (If I've read it right) Matt has suggested you buy a second one from GAME and use that valid code.
You then put the duff code into the GAME box and take that back for a refund claiming the code was already used.
Very naughty.......:nono:
Originally posted by Morton
Very naughty.......:nono:
True, but a) it's not my fault and b) MS won't have lost anything
Matt, I hope that's the case. I did go in 2 curry's, 1 PC world, 1 comet and a Toys R us looking for it. I thought I saw it but it turned out to be Spyhunter 2. Grr
Originally posted by Morton
No you won't.
You have one Live kit with a duff code. (If I've read it right) Matt has suggested you buy a second one from GAME and use that valid code.
You then put the duff code into the GAME box and take that back for a refund claiming the code was already used.
Very naughty.......:nono:
Yep it is naughty. But he does have a new live kit and the code has already been used. The company will claim it back as sold a dodgy kit or whatever anyways.
Obviously I'm not condoning or suggesting this as a good idea, merely an option. :)
I would never ever consider doing anything like this myself.
Sabre UK
24-03-2004, 19:09
Originally posted by mattkbishop
If not, I'd buy a new one from GAME, then package it up with the old code, take it back and tell em it's already been used. They'll get a refund from MS anyway.
That's terrible. It's no wonder that genuine customers that have a real reason for taking things back to other stores are turned away. It's due to abuse like this.
The only time I've taken games back to game is if I didn't like it and even then it's been once or twice.
It annoys me how people take advantage of good customer service.
Originally posted by Sabre UK
That's terrible. It's no wonder that genuine customers that have a real reason for taking things back to other stores are turned away. It's due to abuse like this.
The only time I've taken games back to game is if I didn't like it and even then it's been once or twice.
It annoys me how people take advantage of good customer service.
Yep it's a pain but he's been screwed anyway hasn't he? He bought that set and it's clearly already been used. They sold it to him.
Thinking about it, don't even need to buy a new one, he could just take the old one back and tell them this is what it was when he opened it - the code was already in use/not valid. Dunno why I thought of buying a new one for the same reasoning.
Sabre UK
24-03-2004, 19:14
I guess. No offence intended. :)
Anyway, have any of you ordered this from the GAME site? I was hoping it would be posted today, but it hasn't been according to the tracking page.
Originally posted by Sabre UK
I guess. No offence intended. :)
None taken. Clearly he's got to get a refund/replacement Live set from somewhere as the code is muffed. I assumed that's where he got the set from, if not Virgin would do - they have a good returns policy, that's where the buy a new one comes in - sure it's taking the mick but they'd get it back anyway. Capitalism never loses out in these situations. GAME would resell it anyway under new shrink wrap :oh-hum:
Originally posted by camaj
Thanks Matt, I'll give that a try.
Now ordered from play. I'll see what happens tomorrow and Thursday and I'll cancel one of them.
I've now signed up for Xbox Live and my tag is camaj (is it case sensitve?). I've added Matt to my friends list
The stuff I listed earlier:
1 x Scart with Optical Output
1 x Optical Lead
1 x Controller
2 x Controller S
1 x Official Microsoft Xbox Live! (unused and still has the 12 months subscription free)
Games:
Project Gotham Racing
Colin Mcraey Rally 3
Midnight Club 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Dead Or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball
House Of The Dead 3
Toca Race Driver
Was £130 inc. p&p. I thought it was a decent price. The only downside is I've just tried the code and it's invalid so it seems like the guy has stitched me up (possibly inadvertantly) :mad:
Also looks like some free maps are on there way for SC2 very soon
From the way this is worded I don't think Camaj got this lot from a shop. If you did I'd like to know where!!! :wave: Even 2nd hand from a shop that would be supberb
If it's a personal sale you need to have word mate.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
None taken. Clearly he's got to get a refund/replacement Live set from somewhere as the code is muffed. I assumed that's where he got the set from, if not Virgin would do - they have a good returns policy, that's where the buy a new one comes in
Just to clear up, I didn't buy it from GAME, It was part of the bundle I bought on ebay. I don't have the packaging nor a receipt of course
The guy emailed me back and he scratched it off in prepiaration and never used it. He suggested it may have expired since he bought it when it first came out. Do you think asking MS directly would help?
BTW, with SC1 is there any difference between the original and the "xbox classic" version other than the price?
Originally posted by camaj
Just to clear up, I didn't buy it from GAME, It was part of the bundle I bought on ebay. I don't have the packaging nor a receipt of course
The guy emailed me back and he scratched it off in prepiaration and never used it. He suggested it may have expired since he bought it when it first came out. Do you think asking MS directly would help?
BTW, with SC1 is there any difference between the original and the "xbox classic" version other than the price?
For some reason I thought you got it from GAME 2nd hand. Should deffo have a word with the ebay seller.
XBox Classic has the 3 extra missions on the 2nd disc.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
For some reason I thought you got it from GAME 2nd hand. Should deffo have a word with the ebay seller.
XBox Classic has the 3 extra missions on the 2nd disc.
Can you d/l those for free with the original version or do you have to pay if you can get them at all?
The ebay seller's response was in my last post. I'm either going to have to demand a refund (partial or full) or drop it.
You can download them free if you have the original.
Why don't you ask for a refund for the value of £30? That's what a live kit is going for on Amazon.co.uk
Thanks, I can get the original for cheaper than the classic so if I can access the same content it makes little sense to get the classic.
The classic has a spelling error on the spine of the cover too :p
Woo hoo! Mine copy of SC2 shipped from Amazon today. Quite likely I'll get it tomorrow! (Fingers crossed)
IGN give the game a big 9.5. :thumbs:
test
how the hell do spoiler tags work?
Like that, but spell it as spoiler.
AudioVisualGuy
25-03-2004, 12:12
Woohoo, my game arrived this morning from gameplay !!
Hmmm I wonder what I'm doing tonight :dork:
@Jowser thanks heh cut and paste is a pain sometimes, as you can see i spelt it right on the next line :brickwall :D
..
OK guys
on the next bit I've crawled on the train and got inside that room, opened the sliding doors, and cut the lights to the main cabin.
When I go outside the train (hanging onto the rail), I always get spotted...what should I do?
Spinning Plates
25-03-2004, 14:04
Play shipped my copy yesterday but no sign of it today. I hope i get pandora tommorow tommorow :dork:
losimagic
25-03-2004, 14:28
Originally posted by amkhan
..
OK guys
on the next bit I've crawled on the train and got inside that room, opened the sliding doors, and cut the lights to the main cabin.
When I go outside the train (hanging onto the rail), I always get spotted...what should I do?
you just have to be patient, take it slowly
hardtofin
25-03-2004, 14:31
when did this come out in the uk?
Originally posted by losimagic
you just have to be patient, take it slowly
[Swiss Toni] Yes Paul, Playing Splinter Cell is like making love to a beautiful woman......[/Swiss Toni] :D
Originally posted by hardtofin
when did this come out in the uk?
Tomorrow.
@losimagic
Ok i admit it use speed and try and pelt it which does not work.. anything I should know about wrt to timing?
What are the features for live on this? Is it multiplayer only? or can you work as a team through the levels?
What does the multiplayer involve, i tried looking on google but came up with nothing. Can i have two different xbox's on the same live kit, as me and my bro would like to go half on the kit.
sorry for jacking the thread!
Thanks, jon
Review here (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/501/501337p1.html) will answer all your question on the multiplayer.
Not sure if there's a co-op mode.
You can have multiple accounts on one Xbox but not one account on multiple Xbox's. It's one account each - Amazon £30 delivered. :thumbs:
Um, I think you can do link up but it won't be on the same live kit I would of though.
For detailed multiplayer info (which is live only) have a read of the Multiplayer Preview (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/496/496732p1.html) on IGN.
More info in the review (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/501/501337p1.html).
I was really annoyed when it didn't come today, bloody Play!
Then the postman knocked at the door! I don't remember having to sign anything from play before.
Anyone up for a game tonight
Just picked up a copy from game. I'll be on tonight if anyone's interested.
TheCookieMonster
26-03-2004, 15:58
I'll be giving the Live element a try tonight after Wossy probably so feel free to add me to to your Friends lists peops ;).
Sabre UK
26-03-2004, 16:57
Anyone received a copy from GAME today that pre-ordered?
I'm at work and don't know if it has arrived today yet.
Mine arrived today. Not back on Live for another week, but it'll give me time to do the single player.
Sabre UK
26-03-2004, 17:25
Fantastic! Should be online tonight then. :D
Sorry, mine was from Play, not GAME. I'm a bit tired....
Originally posted by camaj
I was really annoyed when it didn't come today, bloody Play!
Mine came from Play, sent out tuesday evening. :thumbs:
If yours went out on wednesday with a bit of luck you'll have it tomorow. :D
Downloading an update already, any ideas what it fixes?
boogieben1
26-03-2004, 17:58
its 29.99 in dixons
cant wait for the pc version
Originally posted by Kronik
Mine came from Play, sent out tuesday evening. :thumbs:
If yours went out on wednesday with a bit of luck you'll have it tomorow. :D
Mine was sent from Play on Weds and arrived today :)
From the Official Website:
26.03.2004
Xbox Live bug will be corrected soon
A bug where the Xbox game crashed if you rested ten seconds on the "optimatch" option will soon be resolved. The bug does not prevent players from playing online, and it does not occur during gameplay. Therefore we expect that players will still enjoy playing Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow while we look into resolving this issue.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Mine was sent from Play on Weds and arrived today :)
jammy so and so.
mine shipped then and hasnt come.
this after reading this thread and being persuaded to cancel my amazon order.
which the rest of came today - just to annoy me even more!
its the matrix i tell you.
Originally posted by Geoggy
jammy so and so.
mine shipped then and hasnt come.
this after reading this thread and being persuaded to cancel my amazon order.
which the rest of came today - just to annoy me even more!
its the matrix i tell you.
Unlucky pal. You getting up early tomorrow then? :D
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Unlucky pal. You getting up early tomorrow then? :D
yep - for a golf lesson.
:dork:
if it doesnt come tomorrow i'll be gutted.
:brickwall
Originally posted by Kronik
If yours went out on wednesday with a bit of luck you'll have it tomorow. :D
You didn't read my whole post did you! :wave:
It was in sainsbury's today for £35.
There's a PC multiplayer demo out for those who're interested.
Damell, I can't see your gamertag on the gamertag thread :confused:
Originally posted by mattkbishop
From the Official Website:
Ahh, just had this a couple of times myself :(
Lets hope they fix it soon...
Originally posted by camaj
You didn't read my whole post did you! :wave:
It was in sainsbury's today for £35.
There's a PC multiplayer demo out for those who're interested.
Damell, I can't see your gamertag on the gamertag thread :confused:
gamertag: ccartmell ;)
Jimmyboy
26-03-2004, 19:10
So what's the verdict from the people who've got their hands on it?
I luved the 1st game so I'm guessing the quality of this one is a given?
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
So what's the verdict from the people who've got their hands on it?
I luved the 1st game so I'm guessing the quality of this one is a given?
Can't speak for the multiplayer, but the single player is very good. Remapped a few of the button controls which takes a bit of getting used to but it's ok.
Dennis Haysbert as Lambert is class :D
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
So what's the verdict from the people who've got their hands on it?
Quality, rock-hard on-line multi player. Played it for about 6hrs straight. :nuts: I prefer being the spy - grabbing a Merc from behind :norty: and talking to them is just superb.
You just wouldn't think it would work - 1st person vs 3rd person but it does, extremely well.
Sabre UK
26-03-2004, 19:54
Been playing single player for the last 1hr and the magic is back. :)
It sounds silly, but I'm a bit unsure about going online as I have no idea what to do.
Any chance we can get a group of us to have a game ? You know, a game of people who are crap at it. :)
MetalGearAl
26-03-2004, 20:01
I've got the demo, but I can't manage to connect to any games! Most are full, but the ones that aren't won't let me connect, returning a "This session is no longer available" message.
Shame it doesn't work with ASE. Anyone had luck with this? Maybe someone here can host a server for 2 vs 2 play later?
Just finished the first mission. Was well easy. Mainly because health points are absolutely everywhere.
There's also that terrible thing where the top refreshes slightly before the bottom. That make sense? I'm sure people will know what I mean. It's everywhere. Doesn't really effect the game too much, but at first you really notice it.
This is on normal difficulty btw. Maybe it's cos I played the first one to death, or because it's part level 1, part training level.
Looks awesome apart from that refresh problem though.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
There's also that terrible thing where the top refreshes slightly before the bottom. That make sense?
Yeah i've noticed that. It's kind of like playing a PC game without the vertical-sync turned on.
Haven't quite got the hang of multiplayer yet but i'm sure it'll be great once i'm used to it. Plus most the people i've played have been foreign so it's hard to communicate.
Damn XMCC clan seem to have gotten the hang of it quite quickly. Got taken from behind :norty: about 3 times in the space of a minute!
I've noticed during the tutorial that the controls are slightly different for spies on this as well which I imagine would take a bit of getting used to.
MetalGearAl
26-03-2004, 20:38
Actually, now I *think* I'm finding the correct servers.. but it's crashing to the desktop each time it tries to connect :(
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
So what's the verdict from the people who've got their hands on it?
You'd think I'd know but I still haven't played it yet :brickwall
Any chance we can get a group of us to have a game ?
That's what we're here for. :thumbs:
camaj - interested to hear your thoughts on live here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=275119&highlight=live).
Thanks matt, I've already read the whole thing and don't have anything to add to that yet. I've only got 2 live games and one I don't really plan on playing!
Originally posted by camaj
one I don't really plan on playing!
Midtown Madness 3? ;)
first time on pandora live tonight, ruddy hard! only had neck snapped twice :) i think he whispered "how you feeling" :)
You think he whispered?
And is it death the first time you get caught? Or do they have to nail you a few times with sleeper holds first?
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Midtown Madness 3? ;)
Midnight club 2
BTW, I think it is instant death or near enough. It's the only weapon spys have, but a bloody cool one!
Just been doing the training missions, on the Merc one I thought there were spys around so I was going back and forth looking for them only to find a tunnel I'd missed that lead to the exit :cuckoo:
Originally posted by camaj
Midnight club 2
BTW, I think it is instant death or near enough. It's the only weapon spys have, but a bloody cool one!
Just been doing the training missions, on the Merc one I thought there were spys around so I was going back and forth looking for them only to find a tunnel I'd missed that lead to the exit :cuckoo:
:D Nice one lol
Originally posted by mattkbishop
:D Nice one lol
Maybe I'm saying that to lure everyone into a false sense of security. Naaaahhhh, I really am that dim :help:
How come you're offline Matt? If you make a typo on the gametag entry will they tell you or do you wait hoping the "other person" responds.
No one's sent me a request yet :suspect:
Anyone notice that when you play live the real time is displayed in the top corner? Whenever I turn the xbox off, the time is alway reset. :searchme:
I'm at Uni at the mo mate, can't use Xbox Live here. Won't be home (and on Live) until Friday night.
Gives me time to work on the single player game though. Prolly be caning you all at it anyway, like I do on Rainbow 6 3 :D
:suspect: :o
Sabre UK
27-03-2004, 00:09
Feel free to add me for a game or two over the weekend.
My tag is my forums username.
Anyone know what that 0/1 thing is in the corner (bottom left) the number changes too.
I tried RTFM but it's no clearer (to me).
Read the manual? Noob!!! :wave: ;)
Even though I'm currently really crap at multiplayer I'm really enjoying it. I haven't actually won anything or neutralised anything yet :help: My main objective has been to attach a spy bullet!
My first game was in the cinema. Got to the screen and then to the door when a merc charged round the corner. That was me dead. Then I was a merc and I spotted a spy running for a ladder I'd found earlier. I badly tried to follow him up and eventually made it. I tried shooting him (God that was loud!) and he threw a grenade, ran behind me and broke my neck. :brickwall
Then we tried the office block level. Several times I got mown down trying to disable a laser beam. Another time I dropped down onto one of the bridges and I could see the torchbeam on an adjacent bridge. I hid behind a pillar and the merc starting doing a sweep and I was bricking it. Then I either nipped to the opposite side of the corrodor or he became more casual and he passed by. I sat there waiting and he came back and started firing! Not at me though, randomly at the roof :lol: He turned and went the other way and I was trying to follow him but he got away.
Is it me or are some of these maps really buggy. I've fallen through the scenery a few times esp on that last one where I was hanging off the bridge but midair on the "safe" side.
I wasn't using a mic either which was a shame because I wanted to tell them how close I almost came. They got annoyed at that too :(
MetalGearAl
27-03-2004, 01:00
I finally got to playing the PC demo by hosting games myself. I don't know how well the others were doing for connection speed! Is there any way to see who's playing, team layouts + ping etc when you're in game? (The same kind of info you see when you press F1 in UT2004).
Other than that it plays cool. Bit tricky to get the hang of, and I haven't successfully used the microphone yet, hopefully will get the hang of it all soon though. :thumbs:
Originally posted by camaj
Read the manual? Noob!!! :wave: ;)
I said I RTFM already..... I take it that means you don't know either?
Originally posted by mattkbishop
I said I RTFM already..... I take it that means you don't know either?
:lol: I know, I was asking a question then answering it in a sarcastic way. You could say that great players don't need to RTM. That was that. Not that I agree but that wasn't the idea :thumbs:
MetalGearAl
27-03-2004, 03:53
Okay update.... this game is absolutely great fun. I had someone on my team earlier who was also using a mic, and it enhances the game so much more.
I'm getting the hang of sneaking around the mercs now, but I have real trouble neutralising the devices. It seems to take ages for the Use option to appear.. anyone else have this problem?
Also, for other PC users, how does grabbing / knocking someone down work. As far as I can see, I have 3 'action buttons', Q, E and Shift.. Q I haven't used for anything so far, is that what I use?
On the XboX you use the main action key to grab from behind.
I made some kills in the end and got a bit more into it. I also pluged the mic in. Never done a voice game before so I didn't want to jump straight in. Sadly the first lot were the ones that I should have used voice for.
I forgot to mention too that there was a girl (sounded female anyway) on my side who ended up shooting me dead. I did shoot another team mate once but nonfatally. Also I was setting up a mine when someone came up behind me. I got killed and it was only after I died that I realised someone else had died too.
What was annoying though was thinking you were clear and then having someone grab you and spining and still not seeing them :thinking: They were all americans too
I played the MP demo with a friend, i was merc, i killed him 3 times, twice with my grenades.
Then I went spy and boy does it suck. I could hardly get in a window before I got detected even when I shot the laser detecting things, then i did not know how to disable the objective. I shot him lots but it just electrocuted him for about 1 sec and then he would shoot me again.
I really am not sure if I should get the PC version as well, I got the xbox version to play at uni, but now it is holidays I can play the PC version.....
Bah.
the 0/1 thing is the alarm..sometimes it goes to 0/3, meaning you have 3 alarms to trigger before mission ovre..when it is 0/1, that means do not set any alarms mr fisher, or ya mission is over!
when i played live last night, they were all americans too..does it detect your xbox video region setting?? might switch it to pal and see if our uk friends appear :)
Originally posted by sirp
the 0/1 thing is the alarm..sometimes it goes to 0/3, meaning you have 3 alarms to trigger before mission ovre..when it is 0/1, that means do not set any alarms mr fisher, or ya mission is over!
Ah thanks pal.
shipped play wednesday and i am still splinterless.
not a happy bunny,
never will i use them again for pre order.
:mad:
could everyone please stop playing it so that i get chance to catch up?
thanks
G
Originally posted by Geoggy
shipped play wednesday and i am still splinterless.
not a happy bunny,
never will i use them again for pre order.
:mad:
could everyone please stop playing it so that i get chance to catch up?
thanks
G
Sure mate I'll stop playing it for you :)
In your dreams :D
Don't understand why Play haven't got your order to you yet, is the post running late today or something? Is your postal area notoriously bad?
no post today - but its usually here by 10 at the latest.
should of stuck with amazon. its my own fault - sometimes the forums are useful - sometimes they arent.
I think you're just unlucky. Mine was sent wednesday and came friday
I found being a spy quite hard because I seemed to trip an alarm and have a merc right on top of me even though they were on the other side of the level
Originally posted by Geoggy
no post today - but its usually here by 10 at the latest.
should of stuck with amazon. its my own fault - sometimes the forums are useful - sometimes they arent.
That's prolly my fault, sorry about that pal.
camaj - check your forums email please mate.
MetalGearAl
27-03-2004, 11:43
Originally posted by Saber
I played the MP demo with a friend, i was merc, i killed him 3 times, twice with my grenades.
Then I went spy and boy does it suck. I could hardly get in a window before I got detected even when I shot the laser detecting things, then i did not know how to disable the objective. I shot him lots but it just electrocuted him for about 1 sec and then he would shoot me again.
It is a lot harder for Spies when you first start playing. Mercs are much easier to pick up and play, due to the FPS familiarity of them. I played the first SC plenty but when you first start as Spies online it's quite tricky to get the hang of things. I'm getting a bit better now, and it's getting much easier to give the Mercs the run around. It's great fun just hiding around a corner and watching them run everywhere looking for you after you've set off an alarm :D
Just picked this up from Game. Got them to pricematch Dixons who are selling it for £29.99. :D
matt - dont be daft - besides - mr postie has jus been a knocking!!!!
;)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
You got it now then? :D
indeed!
thesnowman
27-03-2004, 13:08
got this on thursday but only started playing it today. just done the first mission and loving it. Aint played multi yet, need to have a crack at it later. Cant believe they have improved the graphics over the first one, it looks stunning and those light effects never fail to impress.
Pork Chop Express
27-03-2004, 15:06
Anyone seen the advert to this? Its really well done. The game is class :thumbs:
first opinions - online is pure class.
going to have some good games on this.
1st person and 3rd person works brilliantly together.
see you online.
:thumbs:
lewisrichard
27-03-2004, 17:56
i just picked this up from currys for 28 quid :D ill be on tonight.
Tag- TaranAtar
:)
Originally posted by MetalGearAl
It is a lot harder for Spies when you first start playing. Mercs are much easier to pick up and play, due to the FPS familiarity of them. I played the first SC plenty but when you first start as Spies online it's quite tricky to get the hang of things. I'm getting a bit better now, and it's getting much easier to give the Mercs the run around. It's great fun just hiding around a corner and watching them run everywhere looking for you after you've set off an alarm :D
Totally, there is definitely an art to being the spy plus you have to learn the different routes in, out and around the levels.
Mercs have the run of the floor in each level, it is the nooks, crannys, rafters, vents, pipes and tunnels that the spies need to make use of.
The Warehouse level is bar far my favourite level, so many routes and dark spots. However, the Museum is the Spies worst nightmare, well lit and full of motion sensors and laser trips. Extremely tough.
What makes it for the spy is going up against real intelligence (or lack thereof ;) ) in the Mercs. I didn't like SC too much because you couldn't make even the slightest, minute fart of a sound without the AI being imediately alert, hunting you down. And the worst thing -once they had spotted you they could always find you in the dark with out problem. The darkness just didn't work all the time.
This doesn't happen on-line in SC2 with real people. They can spot you but if you move and sit quietly in a dark corner they can't find you. Darkness really is your friend. Mercs can literally brush past you and not see you. It's awesome.
This is also the first game where I'm loathe to give my secrets away too. I've found routes and paths that my friends haven't found yet, if I disclosed them that's the advantage gone when they're the Merc. :D
MetalGearAl
27-03-2004, 19:13
I've really got the Hospital level sussed now. Just been playing it on home LAN, but there's only 3 of us with good enough comps to play it, so it's 2 vs 1 atm. My best achievement so far was winning when I was the only Spy vs 2 Mercs :)
Just finished the single-player campaign. It's maybe slightly too short (I got around 20 hours of raw playing time out of it I reckon), but the gameplay, design work and animations are absolutely stunning. I really thought the story was interesting and I got immersed in it.
I'm not a fan of stealth based games at all, but I found Splinter Cell 2 fantastic on the whole.
9.5/10.0
"Don't shoot... I'm an American..." *BANG* :D
HBK757 couldn't agree more, its superb! multiplayer time tonight i feel :)
Best bit so far for me is on the 7th level....
Where it's pouring with rain, dripping off everything, take out the blokes faffing with the bike, then you overhear about the lightning and night vision.... absolute class. It's so good, I actually feel really odd, like I should be wearing a coat or something. Fantastic.
The v-syncing prob seems to be fine after level 1 as well. :)
mattkbishop, let me know if you enjoyed the bit with the satellites :)
Originally posted by sirp
mattkbishop, let me know if you enjoyed the bit with the satellites :)
What satellites :| :brickwall
How do you invite someone? I know Tarantar's playing and I keep getting invites but the session's gone when I accept :thinking:
Originally posted by camaj
How do you invite someone? I know Tarantar's playing and I keep getting invites but the session's gone when I accept :thinking:
Options - Friends - Highlight Friend - Send Invite.
You might not be able to send someone an invite if you have a pending invite from them. Cancel their invite and you should be able to send them one.
You probably didn't join Taranatar's game quick enough and he closed the room.
BTW Sorry for not joining you Taranatar - was already in a room of 4. Such a shame you can't have more in a game.
What is suprising in this game is the patchy voice comms in both the lobby and the game - the lobby is actually quite bad. Considering you could hear 16 peeps in one RS3 lobby clearly I'm suprised.
Thanks morton, I figured it out in the end. Mainly by joining sessions. You can always leave a game to join another if you choose.
There was a lot of break up with us too and playing as the merc was really jerky and I found that I'd run alongside stairs instead of up and down them :brickwall Pausing my d/l seemed to fix that.
I did okay I though, I'm still working out how to play. I've been so close to a merc but couldn't grab them. I'll try the manual again.
Also I was thinking about what you said earlier when I first heard about the game. That is half the game is being good and the other half is knowledge of strategies. If you let people in on your strategies you've lost a large advantage. So I was wondering if you (or someone) would like to start a 2 player clan with me or maybe we could start a forums clan. The only problem is who ever I team with would have to keep ideas within the group.
Any thoughts?
lewisrichard
28-03-2004, 10:05
heya camaj, good playing with ya last night at like 4 in the morning :nuts:
i couldnt hear u very well on the mic tho, dunno why.
ill be up for joining a clan, tht game on MP is awesome:p
Morton know worries about the game maybe some other time, what is ur tag by the way.
also, i was in a game with someone, it was the warehouse. i was guarding the top some guy must have got behind me and chocked me to death while he did this tho. he shouts to me " whats does it feel like dieing darth vader style!" :lol: :nuts: :thumbs:
cheapest place to buy this?
Originally posted by MIkeB
cheapest place to buy this?
£29.99 from Play inc. delivery (free).
Some Dixons are selling for the same price I believe.
Re: Voice comms.
Lots of people seem to be noticing this, apparantly it goes balls up when someone joins/leaves. Once you have your 4 people, try unplugging the headset connecter then plugging it back in. That's the (temporary) solution some people over at the Ubisoft forums are suggesting.
Originally posted by camaj
There was a lot of break up with us too and playing as the merc was really jerky and I found that I'd run alongside stairs instead of up and down them :brickwall Pausing my d/l seemed to fix that.
You're playing live while downloading? I find this creates a fair amount of lag, even on small downloads. Perhaps you got a 1MB connection?
What the hell :thinking:
Just started playing the single player campaign:
First level, infiltrate the embassy:
Up to the part where you have to go into the river for cover. There's a guy on the bank with his flash light. So i took out two of the lights and he got suspicious, started walking over to me. I crept up behind him and took him out by grabbing him and chopping him and dumped him in the river.
A few seconds later i get "mission failed, i said no casualities!" etc.
Could i have drowned the poor guard?? :|
Originally posted by damell
First level, infiltrate the embassy:
Up to the part where you have to go into the river for cover. There's a guy on the bank with his flash light. So i took out two of the lights and he got suspicious, started walking over to me. I crept up behind him and took him out by grabbing him and chopping him and dumped him in the river.
A few seconds later i get "mission failed, i said no casualities!" etc.
Could i have drowned the poor guard?? :|
Yeah you did. Your put him to sleep then left him submerged, that counts as a fatality matey boy. You 'lil 'ol killer :D
Just put his carcass behind the jeep out of the way :)
you guys all playing xbox version? , i have ordered pc one for £17.99 at dvd.co.uk
lewisrichard
28-03-2004, 11:43
yeppa, most of us are on xbox vers :)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Yeah you did. Your put him to sleep then left him submerged, that counts as a fatality matey boy. You 'lil 'ol killer :D
Just put his carcass behind the jeep out of the way :)
ahh, lesson learnt :lol:
Originally posted by mattkbishop
You're playing live while downloading? I find this creates a fair amount of lag, even on small downloads. Perhaps you got a 1MB connection?
Yep :D
According to Lewisrichard it's £28 in currys so that's the cheapest I've seen
Could i have drowned the poor guard??
weird because I did the same thing and that didn't happen. I dumped him under the bridge. I got a bit stuck with that guy in the hut
Originally posted by camaj
Yep :D
According to Lewisrichard it's £28 in currys so that's the cheapest I've seen
weird because I did the same thing and that didn't happen. I dumped him under the bridge. I got a bit stuck with that guy in the hut
Why are you guys even going near that guard? :D
Originally posted by camaj
weird because I did the same thing and that didn't happen. I dumped him under the bridge. I got a bit stuck with that guy in the hut
Maybe it's shallower under the bridge :searchme:
Originally posted by Morton
Why are you guys even going near that guard? :D
It's tempation. I find I have to kill everyone when I see them. If I don't it usually stings me in the bum further down the road.
Plus it's fun :D
Originally posted by Morton
Why are you guys even going near that guard? :D
Show off! :D
Where do you get that xbox live messenger from? That would be very handy.
Originally posted by camaj
Show off! :D
Where do you get that xbox live messenger from? That would be very handy.
www.xboxfriends.com
I've had nothing but problems with it though, and I found it slowed up my comp pretty well, so if I'm thinking of going on Live, I'll just open up the friends list on http://www.xbox.com/en-gb/live/
(Click Log into my Live, and link gamertag with MSN passport.)
Space Duck
28-03-2004, 15:24
Bloody Fantastic game on live... can't get enough... no campers because there are too many enterances... ******* fantastic!!!:clap:
I'll be adding as many peeps from the fourms asap, there's not that many of my friends on -line today, time to make some new ones. :)
Just been playing with Sir Willo some good games but people keep leaving. You start a Ranking match, they leave and it reverts to a Free game so you don't get any points. :(
Bit of a bummer really.
Doorman80
28-03-2004, 18:40
Hello Frumper:wave:
I tried to join your game yesterday but i couldnt get in:(
Doorman - my tag's in my sig. ;)
I'm trying to get hold of all ACTIVE Forums Live people, it's rather tricky.
thesnowman
28-03-2004, 18:45
I keep on meaning to play on live, but I am hocked on the single player game. No dount I will be on at some point cause it sounds so cool.:)
Doorman80
28-03-2004, 18:49
Matt can you add me to your list as I can't seem to find you.
Will do next time I'm online.
Snowman - what's your tag?
Originally posted by Morton
Just been playing with Sir Willo some good games but people keep leaving. You start a Ranking match, they leave and it reverts to a Free game so you don't get any points. :(
I've been winning on several occasions only to find the connection disappearing :suspect:
Who's Sir Wilo? What's Space Ducks tag? There's a list in a sticky thread on this forum
thesnowman
28-03-2004, 19:28
my tag is thesnowman
Edit: Nevermind sorted it :D
Originally posted by sirp
mattkbishop, let me know if you enjoyed the bit with the satellites :)
That bit was total class :D
mattkbishop :) lovely aint it!!!
add me if you like guys, cus i need some people who aint been on it for what seems months, so i dont feel so poo :)
sirp23
Will add you when I'm back on Live matey pops. :)
Just played a mamonth session with LewisRichard :thumbs: :D
Some great encounters, the more you learn the better it becomes. When I started I had no clue what I was doing and couldn't kill someone to save my life (literally!). Now I'm dispatching people far easierly. The guy I was playing with was pretty good to which helped a lot.
Do you know the guy you were playing with LewisRichard?
Actually he's the only one I've seen online playing it
lewisrichard
28-03-2004, 23:13
heya Camaj! what a brilliant set of games it was :).
it was quite good the way we both teams were even.
do you mean S8mmyT or the person who was your teamate??
see ya around tomo sometime:thumbs:
Originally posted by lewisrichard
do you mean S8mmyT
That's the guy, you were asking him whether the both of you should do something so he sounded like someone you knew
LewisR and I played against this right stuck up pair of northerners so we left and I was even thinking of going back into the dashboard to invite the guy we played earlier when he popped back. He gave a great game and we ended with a really tense game, where I think LewisR must have passed me by a few times. I think it got my heart beating faster than a good jog :help:
Originally posted by Doorman80
Hello Frumper:wave:
I tried to join your game yesterday but i couldnt get in:(
Hey Doorman80! :wave:
The room must have been full mate. I'll keep my eye out for you though, I quite fancy breaking your neck! :lol:
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