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Buy this game from Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000A5B7H/thedvdforums-21)
Given a whopping 9.4 on Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/ninjagaiden/review.html) and given a similar score on IGN (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/495/495186p1.html)
IGN Review Overall....
Presentation
9.0
A brilliant package, Ninja Gaiden was made to suit a variety of gamers (just not overprotective mothers). Varied weapons, smart mechanics, and online tourneys.
Graphics
10.0
You've got eyes don't you? Running at a solid 60 fps, it's fast-paced, filled with interesting enemies and a variety of locales, is beautifully designed and has loads of heads flying off.
Sound
8.0
The weapons each sound unique and enemies have nice squeals, but the English dub is pretty weak. The range of the score is impressive, but a greater variety in sound effects would have helped.
Gameplay
9.0
Granted there are some camera problems and some annoying things that happen near the end of the game, but overall this is a masterpiece for an action game. It's Prince of Persia with a sack.
Lasting Appeal
10.0
Not only is it 20 hours long, but there's new challenges in the online tourneys and plenty of reasons to play through again. This alone will get you through the dog days of summer.
OVERALL
9.4
(out of 10 / not an average)
I think this is definatly one to buy. So has anybody played the American import yet?
fivebyfive
28-02-2004, 09:55
I played the demo and it's very very good, the wall jumping is a bit tricky at first
GCfreako
28-02-2004, 10:18
Well I've always been a big fan of Ninja Gaiden since its NES appearance. I think I finished them all. Looking forward to that one. The music in NG3 was fantastic.
Originally posted by Kronik
So has anybody played the American import yet?
Not out yet.
I keep looking at this game, and it just seems so "over the place" for me, sort out like an arcade beat me up. But all the reviews are saying it's a contender for game of the year, massive longetivity etc.
Kinda getting a little psyched about it. Definitely worth a try, looking forward to seeing how it turns out :)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
I keep looking at this game, and it just seems so "over the place" for me, sort out like an arcade beat me up. But all the reviews are saying it's a contender for game of the year, massive longetivity etc.
I agree looking at the screenshots it looks like a standard "streets of rage" style game, plus the fact it arrived out of nowhere made me suprised it got such a good score.
Still it sounds great from the reviews and can't wait to get my hands on it!
thesnowman
28-02-2004, 10:43
gamespy gave it 5/5 as well. Shame we have to wait an extra month to play it.
GCfreako
28-02-2004, 11:47
Originally posted by Goblin
I agree looking at the screenshots it looks like a standard "streets of rage" style game, plus the fact it arrived out of nowhere made me suprised it got such a good score.
Still it sounds great from the reviews and can't wait to get my hands on it!
Ninja Gaiden has been around for more than 10 years. It's a come back and I'm sure those who reviewed it played the previous versions. The game was announced in 2002 and was at E3 last year in playable form. No surprises really.
Question is ... where is the new "The Last Ninja"? It's been in development for over 2 years now and still no sign of it.
Waits patiently for files to download :norty:
Originally posted by GCfreako
Ninja Gaiden has been around for more than 10 years. It's a come back and I'm sure those who reviewed it played the previous versions. The game was announced in 2002 and was at E3 last year in playable form. No surprises really.
yes I know but IGN had hardly mentioned Ninja Gaiden up until a few days before the review. For a game getting such good scores, it wasn't hyped much ... thats what I meant by it appearing out of nowhere ;)
Originally posted by Goblin
yes I know but IGN had hardly mentioned Ninja Gaiden up until a few days before the review. For a game getting such good scores, it wasn't hyped much ... thats what I meant by it appearing out of nowhere ;)
IGN have been hyping it for ages :confused: Perhaps that was Insider only though.
I don't have access to the Insider stuff put they've had loads of Gaiden previews and screenshots for us little people.
charlie angel
28-02-2004, 15:35
Mine's on preorder - looks sweet as, can't wait :)
Paul Lynock
28-02-2004, 16:50
Looks and sounds great. Gamespot mentioned how similar some of Ryu's moves are to the Prince in PoP- and I loved that game so I might as well go for this :D Also, judging from the Gamespot screenshots, the game supports widescreen! :clap: Many recent games including KOTOR, Top Spin and MM3 have been completely spoilt by not having support for widescreen TVs. 4:3 games on a 16:9 TV look absolute crap, when will they ever realise this?
Welshlad
28-02-2004, 17:45
Originally posted by charlie angel
Mine's on preorder - looks sweet as, can't wait :)
Can I ask from where?
I haven't ordered a copy yet, but really do want this. Where's the best place to preorder?
GCfreako
28-02-2004, 17:57
dvdsoon probably
Welshlad
03-03-2004, 16:38
has anyone played this then?
is it as impossibly hard as it is rumoured to be?!?
Well I'll post the Penny Arcade link again since the other thread was closed...
Ninja Gaiden - High Employee Turnover (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-02-20&res=l) :lol:
WARNING! - Contains strong language and ninjas.
TheCookieMonster
03-03-2004, 16:53
Gamecentral on teletext also said that they were really enjoying it and were looking to give it 9/10 and they are usually spot on in their reviews :thumbs:
Jimmyboy
03-03-2004, 17:08
Is this an xbox exclusive ?
Don't know nothing about the game myself.
GCfreako
03-03-2004, 17:15
I'll be getting it in the next few days. Will post my thoughts here
My copy just arrived, I'll post my thoughts on the game a little bit later :suspect:
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Is this an xbox exclusive ?
Don't know nothing about the game myself.
yes its an xbox exclusive and it looks great, will be playing it tommorow hopefully.
I didn't notice much pre-hype about it either, cant recall any mag I've read even mentioning it.
Arch Stanton
03-03-2004, 17:42
Originally posted by Goblin
I didn't notice much pre-hype about it either, cant recall any mag I've read even mentioning it.
You certainly can't have been looking to hard. It's been the forthcoming saviour of the X Box for the last 2 years!
Originally posted by Arch Stanton
You certainly can't have been looking to hard.
I didn't know what it was in order to look for it ;)
I'll have to pickup an official mag in future, instead of these cheap multi-format mags.
GamesTM and Edge have featured it, but not as prominently as I would have expected given their love of the retro scene and the fact this is supposed to be a great game.
kind of like sands of time is to the original POP (only harder!)
I just ordered it, should be shipped here by the end of the week. I can't wait :clap:
Ok I gave the game a quick look, and here's my first impressions.
Graphics - Simply amazing. Believe me, this is PC quality quality graphics and then some. Movements are smooth, animation is damn near flawless and environments are stunningly designed and rendered. And here's the bonus - no slowdown at all @ 60fps. Possibly the most impressive game graphically in the Xbox's history.
Gameplay - You need to get used to the camera and the way it can work before you can really appreciate the gameplay. The great thing is, it doesn't take long at all, so it's only a small complaint. The gameplay is fantastic. The combat engine works very well indeed, you'll appreciate much more once you've mastered the special moves and combo's. I'll pulled off a 16-hit combo on some poor ninja. My character just lost it and went to town. The guy must have been dead by the 4th hit, but hey, what's a little more blood between friends? If you pull off the right move, you can chop people's heads clean off too.
As I say I haven't played much of it yet, but first impressions are extremely favourable. This looks like a franchise title for the Xbox to me.
Welshlad
03-03-2004, 19:46
Originally posted by K-Sharp
I just ordered it, should be shipped here by the end of the week. I can't wait :clap:
Can I ask where from?
Amazon have this for £29.99, Play for £32.99 is there anywhere cheaper?
GCfreako
03-03-2004, 20:08
May 12th in UK no?
For those who never played the last 3 Ninja Gaidens, I'm sure you can find them on google with a nes emulator. They are part of my all time favourites. I was like 13 years old when I first played Ninja Gaiden 1, quality game!
That last boss on Shadow Warriors (aka Ninga Gaiden) used to pee me off something rotten!, plus when you lost all ya lifes you were bloddy kicked back to the start of the level :brickwall . Thank god for saves now a days! I wounder when Ninga Gaiden comes out over here, if it will be called Shadow Warriors, as all the NES games had the name change for PAL release
I'm on the 2nd boss now. Bloody hell, so far the first 2 bosses are tough as bricks! Half the time you have to contest with the boss, and other ninja's at the same time! :nuts:
The cutscenes in this game are amazing. Slightly better than dead or alive IMO with the great animations.
Btw there is no easy difficulty level on the game. Just normal and hard.
Can I just ask people to use spoilers please for this for anything that could possibly reveal a bit of the game.
ie: The 2nd boss who is a giant pink hippo is mental hard etc
revealing the boss' identity for those of us trying to avoid it :)
(Goblin I'm looking at you :p)
Disclaimer: To my knowledge there are no purple hippos in the game.
Originally posted by mattkbishop
(Goblin I'm looking at you :p)
don't worry I don't have it yet ... atm the best I can spoil is the IGN score. ;)
started playing it this morning but Im already stuck on this first boss. Is it possible to block an enemies move with an attack (like DOA3) because the boss seems to be doing it a lot and I'm getting battered. :(
As for my thoughts on the game, the camera is a bit rubbish, you have no control over it and I dont think you can skip cutscenes which is annoying when your watching them over and over. So far it seems ok though.
As much as I want to pick this up, but from what I've read it seems that it's more frustrating than it is fun.
I'm in my later years now and just don't have the patience or inclination to persevere with ridculously tough games anymore
Is it Ikaruga hard or is it fun hard? ;)
well from what I've played I imagine this is a game thats going to test your patience, take the 2nd boss for example,
as well as the boss you have 2 re-spawning ninjas to fight, these ninjas teleport but because you have no control of the camera they easily slip out of view, allowing them to shoot you in the back whilst you contend with whats in-sight
Originally posted by Goblin
well from what I've played I imagine this is a game thats going to test your patience, take the 2nd boss for example,
as well as the boss you have 2 re-spawning ninjas to fight, these ninjas teleport but because you have no control of the camera they easily slip out of view, allowing them to shoot you in the back whilst you contend with whats in-sight
It's an absolute nightmare isn't it. Charge your sword to do serious damage to the boss. Quick swipes won't get the job done.
eventually I managed to defeat the first 3 bosses, it was thanks to luck and finding a roll button. :lol:
I'm now on Chapter 5, trouble is theres no save points at the boss and Im having to restart from about 10 minutes away before I can have another attempt.
My patience is dwindling! :D
Alasdair M
04-03-2004, 18:10
Did I read somewhere that this was a Live game ?
Content download or multiplayer ?
If so does anyone know if the US disc works in an unmodded UK machine ?
Jimmyboy
04-03-2004, 18:16
Originally posted by Goblin
I'm now on Chapter 5, trouble is theres no save points at the boss and Im having to restart from about 10 minutes away before I can have another attempt.
My patience is dwindling! :D
If this was a GC exclusive people would be claiming that's a major plus.:D
Shame us Blighties have to wait til end of April. :|
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Shame us Blighties have to wait til end of April. :|
Not all of us :D
Jimmyboy
04-03-2004, 18:29
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Not all of us :D
Where's the best place to get it from then?
www.dvdboxoffice.com
www.importmadness.co.uk
:)
I don't use DVDBO anymore. Bunch of timewasters. :|
Reminds me of that bit in Pretty Woman where she walks back into the shop after being mocked the day before.
"Big mistake. HUGE". :|
DVDSoon
Play-asia
Yesasia
Brother in Hong Kong
....... are my sources now.
My copy of Gaiden was shipped today and should have it tomorrow or Saturday.
Originally posted by Ono
I don't use DVDBO anymore. Bunch of timewasters. :|
Reminds me of that bit in Pretty Woman where she walks back into the shop after being mocked the day before.
"Big mistake. HUGE". :|
DVDSoon
Play-asia
Yesasia
Brother in Hong Kong
....... are my sources now.
My copy of Gaiden was shipped today and should have it tomorrow or Saturday.
They are a bit poor I agree. I thought you were taking it easy on the buying Ono? :D
And seriously - Pretty Woman? http://www.partyboyusa.co.uk/images/gay.gif
;)
Originally posted by mattkbishop
They are a bit poor I agree. I thought you were taking it easy on the buying Ono? :D
Yeah, only buying the high profile games rather than any old drivel. This will be my first purchase of 2004 I believe.
I have to say that I came --->This close<-- to flogging my Green XB last month. Just not playing any of the consoles much anymore. In fact I haven't even booted up any of them this year I think. :eek:
Jimmyboy
05-03-2004, 02:54
Originally posted by Ono
DVDSoon
Play-asia
Yesasia
Brother in Hong Kong
....... are my sources now.
My copy of Gaiden was shipped today and should have it tomorrow or Saturday.
Ono mate, which one of these places will get it to you in 2 days?
I want this one asap!
I noticed Soon have it for around the £25 mark but I think they're a customs target now.
Play-asia would be your best bet. £29 delivered and should take 3-4 working days.
Mine is coming from a mate based in Leicester.:D
:D
There is more than one person in Leicester Mike. :nuts:
One thing to note about this is that the Jap/Asian release *may* be unlocked to all regions.
It is getting a virtually simultaneous release in Jap/US and the actual disc contains both the Western and Japanese movie cut scenes.
We'll see ..................:suspect:
neilalford
05-03-2004, 09:36
My copy just shipped from DVDBO, won't get it till next week sometime though :(
Originally posted by neilalford
won't get it till next week sometime though :(
At the very earliest!
I've got something outstanding from them shipped on 2nd January. :brickwall
neilalford
05-03-2004, 10:36
Originally posted by Ono
At the very earliest!
I've got something outstanding from them shipped on 2nd January. :brickwall
Hmm, I've found them fairly good for delivery times (once things actually get shipped), went with them rather than DVD Soon (who I usually use) as Soon seem a little slow at getting out pre-orders.
charlie angel
05-03-2004, 10:52
My Asian copy is on it's way from Playasia - looking forward to getting stuck into a game with a serious challenge :)
Grant666uk
05-03-2004, 13:08
My god its hard. Had a shot last night. Its a bit like res evil in that you dont want to use all yer health packs right away because your only on level 2 and you KNOW its going to get a lot harder.
Originally posted by Goblin
eventually I managed to defeat the first 3 bosses, it was thanks to luck and finding a roll button. :lol:
I'm now on Chapter 5, trouble is theres no save points at the boss and Im having to restart from about 10 minutes away before I can have another attempt.
My patience is dwindling! :D
This game is rock hard and whilst I am loving it I am also getting a bit annoyed! The nunchukas are especially cool, I even managed to pull of a 62 hit combo :lol:
Chapter 5 is really doing my head in especially:
those damn Ninja who are ******* annoying! It would be easy to take them out if they just had a sword but no they also have explosive shurikens which makes it bloody impossible! :mad: Also, the lack of save points really makes the game bloody hard and keeps you on your toes! Especially going through about 3 streets with lots of Ninjas and then fighting 3 fiends and THEN fighting the main boss, all without a save point between and no place to buy potions etc from!
thats one of the parts that annoyed me mate :D
then on chapter 6 I had problems with the boss, only because I had no health and couldnt be bothered walking back through half the game to find a store, something the IGN reviewer recommeds! :gag:
now Im on the chapter 7 boss, who likes to kill you in one move, whats the point! :brickwall
It seems to be one of those games where the better you are doing the harder the computer beats you, or maybe Im just saying its fixed because it gets me so annoyed! :D
Just had first play, have to agree with all points made so far, camera takes some getting used to, but it does play well.
One question, are the bosses the ninjas in the white suits, because just met my first white ninja, and he killed me.
Welshlad
06-03-2004, 09:37
Originally posted by eric
Just had first play, have to agree with all points made so far, camera takes some getting used to, but it does play well.
One question, are the bosses the ninjas in the white suits, because just met my first white ninja, and he killed me.
No, i assume you mean the bit with the revolving door?
He's just a regular baddie! Hang in there, 'cos there's plenty of them to kill in that room before you move on! :lol:
I heard a rumor that the European release of this wouldn't have any decapitations in it...I bloody well hope its not true, otherwise we're getting done over AGAIN :(
Anyone got any more info on this?
Originally posted by dan13l
I heard a rumor that the European release of this wouldn't have any decapitations in it...I bloody well hope its not true, otherwise we're getting done over AGAIN :(
Anyone got any more info on this?
sounds rubbish, the decapitations are kids stuff compared to something like Manhunt which wasn't toned down.
Im now onto Chapter 9, last boss was a nightmare.
charlie angel
06-03-2004, 13:36
Originally posted by dan13l
I heard a rumor that the European release of this wouldn't have any decapitations in it...I bloody well hope its not true, otherwise we're getting done over AGAIN :(
Anyone got any more info on this?
Nothing's been confirmed as far as I know, but Team Ninja (the developers) have stated in interview that the content may have to be toned down for European release.
Have to wait & see...
Dont Germany have an issue with violent games? So if this is true, I blame them!!! :razz:
Jimmyboy
06-03-2004, 15:32
It's highly unlikely that the land of the free (IE the EU) release will require more censorship.
Chapter 6 now sorted.
Chapter 7 Boss however :eek: :eek: :eek:
Originally posted by JD20
Chapter 6 now sorted.
Chapter 7 Boss however :eek: :eek: :eek:
annoying isn't she ... I especially like the way
pillars appear from nowhere once she has demolished them all! :brickwall
just gone onto chapter 11, Im suprised I made it this far. :D
Boss 7 FINALLY defeated. Goddamn I need a lay down :brickwall
It gets easier imo, Chapter 10-14 bosses are simple.
Chapter 15 is wrecking my head though. :D
I have met the chapter 1 boss today, he is battering me convincingly.
Once you get use to the camera angle, you then start to really enjoy the game.
Think i will go in search of some tips.
completed it! Took just under 22 hours, so its a long game.
I enjoyed it, the story could have done with a little work but apart from that it deserves all the praise it gets. Sega really have to re-think their Shinobi updates after this!
oh and the fantastic unlockable for all my hard work was,
a new costume - shame the quality didnt spill over into the unlockables!
Welshlad
08-03-2004, 16:49
WOW! What can I say!!! :notworthy
Currently on the third level (the boss on the second level was an absolute bitch!) and just died trying to beat the big fat block with the F.Off laser gun! He doesn't seem as hard though, so i'm gonna give it another crack now!
:clap: Ninja Gaiden :clap:
Jimi_Hendrix2001
08-03-2004, 16:57
just offed the guys on the horses on the 2nd level :D
what an amazing game.....took me 2 days to obtain it and i LOVE it!! :thumbs: :thumbs:
And another insightful post by Carl linking to a Penny Arcade strip...
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-03-08
Laser guns? I thought this was a a ninja game!? So where do the laser guns fit into this? :nuts:
Now if only they'd hurry up and deliver this!
Havent had a chance to play this much over the weekend but did finish chapter 5 so happy and ready to play more :D
I read somewhere that as extras in the game you can get all previous incarnations of Ninja Gaiden but that you have to work really hard to get them, you dont get them by just finishing the game, but I am sure the info is out there.
Grandmaster
08-03-2004, 20:06
Just got my import copy - the first boss is driving me crazy. Is there something in the control method I should be taking advantage of to finish this guy off? How about some basic tactics - he blocks my charged moves, reverses shuriken, parries my basic strikes. The only success I've had is by dodging his attack with the roll and then getting a combo in. But I've only got him down to 50% of his energy bar!!
:help:
Originally posted by Grandmaster
Just got my import copy - the first boss is driving me crazy. Is there something in the control method I should be taking advantage of to finish this guy off? How about some basic tactics - he blocks my charged moves, reverses shuriken, parries my basic strikes. The only success I've had is by dodging his attack with the roll and then getting a combo in. But I've only got him down to 50% of his energy bar!!
:help:
theres really no easy way to defeat him. Keep blocking and just keep hitting him with X & Y as much as possible, if your weapons get crossed keep hitting Y and that will knock his health down a fair bit.
don't bother charging Y for the slash move, it wont work.
Looks like it is getting censored for Europe (http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/viewtopic.php?t=21824).
I knew it was those Germans! :mad:
Jimmyboy
08-03-2004, 22:41
Looks like I will have to import it after all.
Is it better to go for the Japanese or US release?
US mate I would of thought unless you speak Japanese?
thats a joke, mortal kombat has as much blood! :oh-hum:
Jimmyboy
12-03-2004, 23:37
It seems the EU censorship fiasco is nothing but a dirty rumour -
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=54864
Apart from Germany, I would say Europe is not as strict as America.
Anyway, I already have the game, but no xbox to play it on, that should hopefully arrive Monday. I can't wait!
Found this thread miles down on the page but thought I would resurect it as I just got the game.
Have to say it is an excellent game, good graphics (seem very smooth too), nice cut-scenes and the controls are excellent. Running up the walls is very cool. Camera is a bit annoying but after learning which buttons control it the camera dosen't become so much of an issue.
Also good to see the game being so hard, you actually feel like you have acomplished somthing when you reach the next save point.
Im on chapter 3 now, lots more to go.
With this, The Suffering, Breakdown and loads of other excellent, original games coming out looks like a good spring for PAL xbox owners.
Grandmaster
13-03-2004, 20:47
I'm on chapter five now. It can get amazingly, frustratingly hard. But there are parts of the game that border on genius and it's done a great job of keeping me away from Onimusha 3.
Originally posted by Grandmaster
I'm on chapter five now. It can get amazingly, frustratingly hard. But there are parts of the game that border on genius and it's done a great job of keeping me away from Onimusha 3.
you've got Onimusha 3? whats it like?? :eek:
Welshlad
13-03-2004, 21:46
Originally posted by Grandmaster
I'm on chapter five now. It can get amazingly, frustratingly hard.
Indeed! The trio of ninjas with the exploding arrows (?) are sooooooo damn tough! They're harder than the bloody bosses!
Originally posted by Welshlad
Indeed! The trio of ninjas with the exploding arrows (?) are sooooooo damn tough! They're harder than the bloody bosses!
Thats what Im on now (chapter 4). I die everytime I meet them for about the 4th time and it seems like its ages away from the save point at the start of the level.
Yeah those Ninjas can be tough but I found using that Fire thingy-ma-jigy (Y + B) really helps against them.
Top game btw! :thumbs:
I'm finding it tough to beat the boss with the nunchuka's! :nuts:
Do we get to use the nunchuka later in the game?
Originally posted by Goblin
thats a joke, mortal kombat has as much blood! :oh-hum:
Yeah but the SNES version didnt have any blood in it, and the Megadrive version you had to put a cheat in to get it!!! I just hope these people dont see, The Suffering then, cos thats got 10 times more blood that this!!
By the way has anybody found the giant xbox along with the boomarang style shuriken..........its on chapter 4 i think, what does the xbox do? ...does it replenish ALL your energies or what?
Grandmaster
14-03-2004, 10:05
Platty: yes it does!
Kronic: yes you do!
neilalford
15-03-2004, 09:31
Got this on Saturday morning, my thumbs are really sore now.
Made it to the third boss, but I've now gone back to the start to try and get through with more health etc. Currently back at the second boss with all the health type power ups (except the potions) unused.
Excellent game with an amazing amount of depth in the combat system once you start to understand it, plus some really great moments.
can anybody shed any light on the cutscene just before the 3rd chapter?
the ninja you play as (Ryu?) gets sliced down the middle by Doku and then you watch an owl stand over your decomposing body and then it goes to a cutscene where your fine?
or for anyone who's finished the game
who's was that grave at the end? and why did Doku turn out to be your friend when he was originally some sort of ghost?
Markuswu
15-03-2004, 12:09
I've had this for a while now but never got round to playing it much, its god damn rock hard!
I just reached the second level
With the boss in red armor on the horse, I cant even get any damage in before he thows me around with his stick and the ghosts fireball me to deat
This game is def. hard, Good luck ;)
stick with it because with exception of about 4 more chapters I thought the first two were the hardest.
charlie angel
15-03-2004, 12:44
Originally posted by Goblin
can anybody shed any light on the cutscene just before the 3rd chapter?
the ninja you play as (Ryu?) gets sliced down the middle by Doku and then you watch an owl stand over your decomposing body and then it goes to a cutscene where your fine?
No light to shed, but a bit of trivia -
The bird is a falcon - Hayabusa (Ryu's family name) means falcon in japanese. My guess is it's just meant to be an ominous vision - although I wasn't watching too carefully; was cartwheeling round the room after beating the horseman boss.
neilalford
15-03-2004, 13:18
I found the horse guy fairly easy to beat (obviously easy being a subjective term when talking about Ninja Gaiden);
I concentrated on the fireball guys, blocking their close combat attacks, killing them gives extra health or Ki so you can keep using your Ninpo which kills them pretty quickly. Just take swipes at the horse guy when he gets close. After a while the fireball guys stop appearing (there's about 10-12 of them), the guy himself is pretty easy beat, roll out of his way when he charges and you can then get a load of hits in on his horses arse as he turns around.
No, it won't work if it is unmodded.
This game is tricky! But cool, how do i use my ninpo though? I got the art of inferno, but I have no idea how to use it.
charlie angel
16-03-2004, 22:42
Saber - press Y+B together once magic is equipped.
I tried that, maybe I was out of Ki.
how did i go from feudal japan to the future?
Grandmaster
17-03-2004, 08:04
The horseman boss was very easy - your arrows do a lot of damage on him and provided you don't aim for his front, you're guaranteed a hit.
neilalford
17-03-2004, 09:01
Originally posted by Saber
I tried that, maybe I was out of Ki.
how did i go from feudal japan to the future?
You didn't, the start of the game just looks like feudal Japan and the later levels just look like the future, it's all the same time period, just different countries
Just starting Level 5 now...
Quick question about the Golden Scarabs though,
at the moment when I give them to the shopkeeper I just get 1 life of the gods, whether I give him 1 or 6 but he says "That's x you've given me in total", so do they just keep mounting up and each time you pass a particular total you get something new, or do you have to give all of them to him at once to get the better items. As an example, I give him 3 and get the life of the gods (which costs 1 scarab), later I give him another 7, making the total 10, does that mean I get whatever item requires 10 scarabs (if there is one) or just another life of the gods?
Originally posted by neilalford
Quick question about the Golden Scarabs though,
You get rewarded for the total number you have given him, so different items at 20, 25, 30 etc...
Is anyone elses copy accessing the dvdrom like crazy whilst the games in play? chirp, chirp, chirp.. It's getting on my nips.. :mad:
This game is so hard, it was driving me crazy. I was on chapter 5, and those bloody black scorpian ninjas that all attack you at the same time, and they move so fast, at first I was just fireballing them and then i found a fairly good way is to just jump up and down and use yellow to knock them over and then stab them, but they are haaard.
Anyone got any tips for fighting, I was amazed by how many moves there were when I looked at the technique list, I most only use about 5 of the moves, mainly i just whack blue constantly, and sometimes yellow if they are tough.
Rachael all slimey :norty:
Peter UK
19-03-2004, 17:58
Just been playing this and it's good fun, if a little frustrating so far :D
My only gripe is that the cameras a bit awkward sometimes and the combat could've been done much better, a la Bujingai.
Oh well, seeing as everyone gave a damn... It was lager on my dvd. :(
Anyway just got going so read the whole thread again
What's going on with the IGN review?
It's Prince of Persia with a sack.
What does that mean? :confused:
Welshlad
19-03-2004, 19:51
Originally posted by Saber
This game is so hard, it was driving me crazy. I was on chapter 5,
Tell me about it! You wait till you see the boss at the end of Chapter Seven! it took me 14 goes to beat her FFS! :lol: :brickwall
By far the hardest boss so far!
Originally posted by Dave Metcalf
What does that mean? :confused:
Prince of Persia with balls. I guess they mean its like Prince of Persia with a lot more action.
Ahh.. nutsack. How slow can you go. :o
I'm just finding this annoying. The control method is too familiar with POP. It's that same feeling you get from moving between SSX and Amped. It grates. :mad:
Apart from that, I suck :thumbs:
Jimmyboy
20-03-2004, 01:26
Finally got the game today and it rocks!
Solid but fun.
So anyone got any tips for being a mean lean fighting machine?
I find I never have time to go something like an Izuna drop, i would do it on a hard ninja like those black ones, but they normally dodge, or one of their annoying friends hits me while i am trying to link them together.
One good way i found to kill people is if you hit them against the wall and they are kind of slumped over, if you press yellow, you will chop their head off, or if they are on the ground you will stab them in the chest, killing them.
There are so many techniques to do, and yet i only use a few, which ones work best for you?
Originally posted by Saber
There are so many techniques to do, and yet i only use a few, which ones work best for you?
jump and press Y in the air whilst pointing towards the enemy, usually takes their head off in one.
I didnt really bother with any combos, just keep hitting X&Y and always be quick at blocking and use the defence attack Y to knock down groups of enemies.
Jimmyboy
21-03-2004, 18:26
I'm on level 7 boss, it's a bit silly ain't it.
You have to run around which plays havock with the dodgy camera and makes it impossible to pull of the right move on the controller. I wouldn't mind if there was some kind of skill involved to beating her but it appears to be a case of extreme luck and a heck of a lot of potions.
I'm trying to beat her without having to use my only remaining resurrection scroll - are there any tips. So far mycourse of action is to risk getting in close and then pulling off a 20 - 30 hit combo with the upgraded flar Nunchukus but this carries a risk of being court in a combo by her purple beam - a move which often results in a one hit kill. :gag:
and why couldn't they put save points before and after the bosses? :cuckoo:
Just completed level 7. Yeah she's pretty tough, I managed to do her after 4 attempts :norty: but it did require me to use up a few things from my bag of goodies!
I know what you mean about the save points but I think it's better the way it is because it makes it that much harder and that much more rewarding.
Also I now prefer to go for the more flashy kills rather than quick ones coz you get more essence for them.
Fantastic game so far.
Welshlad
21-03-2004, 19:37
the best method I found for her was to keep moving and avoid all her attacks, then when she dives and swoops at you roll out the way and hit the hell out of her!
You'll need to do this a number of times but eventually it should work....took me bloody agest to beat her though!
4 attempts on that boss is very good. I think I had 1 health potion and 1 fire spell, took me ages! :brickwall
beating this boss is as much about the computers AI as your own reactions, sometimes she can kill you in one move and other times she'll let you beat her up without much of a fight. Basically the best tip is to keep playing until the computer screws up. :D
Yeah that's pretty much the technique I used Welshlad.
Goblin, I did have to use 2 x Great health potions and 3 fire spells though! :nuts:
Sometimes I am oh so very tempted to download a trainer for it, it can really drive me :nuts: sometimes.
Welshlad
22-03-2004, 11:00
OMG! Chapter 8 is bordering on the insane! :nuts:
How hard can this game get?
What are you supposed to do outside the military base when that damn chopper comes after you, firing missiles and crap about ten-a-second? You haven't got time to chuck anything at him - I was brown bread within about 60 seconds!?!
There was me thinking the game had sort of reached a consistent difficulty level and then this! Also those army guys are a bitch. The ones with the bazookas have killed me 3 times already!!!!
How hard is this game on 'difficult' then? I'm only on Normal and must admit its the toughest game i've ever played!
AMAZING AMAZING stuff though! :notworthy
you'll be really suprised how easy that chopper is, just
keep hold of block until it flies away ;)
Originally posted by Saber
Sometimes I am oh so very tempted to download a trainer for it, it can really drive me :nuts: sometimes.
theres no accomplishment in cheating, stick at it! :)
Chapter 12: HELP !!
Stuck on Chapter 12...........gone into the Magna Caves, nabbed the 4 pieces of Iron Ore, but god knows what I'm meant to do with them.
I can find the Refinery type thing, but its behind a wall I cant get too......grr.
Can't go anywhere in the Magma Caves as it requires 2 eye pieces or somesuch.
???
ok the part where,
you cross the lava after hitting the button on the floor, you have to swing over a branch halfway .... one the other side of that where the shop statue is, look behind you and you'll see a circular type wall you can run over. I think the refinery is there.
:clap: will give it a try
Jimmyboy
22-03-2004, 19:43
Originally posted by Welshlad
OMG! Chapter 8 is bordering on the insane! :nuts:
How hard can this game get?
What are you supposed to do outside the military base when that damn chopper comes after you, firing missiles and crap about ten-a-second? You haven't got time to chuck anything at him - I was brown bread within about 60 seconds!?!
Before the chopper where you go into the military base and are attacked by those mini radio controlled helicopters - I spent several hours playing the game under the impression that those mini choppers were invincible. I'd try to jump across those moving platforms only to be knocked off by their blue beams. I honestly never thought I was capable of swearing so much. Then I descovered the box of arrows - Doh! :brickwall
Is there a way to autoaim with arrows, because it takes me a while to aim properly, and I normally waste at least 1 arrow trying to aim as there is no xhair showing where the arrow will land.
Does this get better? I started it today but not really getting gripped by it as of yet....
Jimmyboy
22-03-2004, 20:25
Originally posted by mattkbishop
Does this get better? I started it today but not really getting gripped by it as of yet....
Tbh if you don't like the early part of the game you're probably gonna hate the rest. I really enjoyed it at first but it went down hill once it turned into a Resident Evil/Devil May Cry hybrid (somewhere around mission 5).
I'm hoping it will pick up again soon because the game is far to difficult to stick with if it doesn't.
Jimmyboy
22-03-2004, 20:27
Originally posted by Saber
Is there a way to autoaim with arrows, because it takes me a while to aim properly, and I normally waste at least 1 arrow trying to aim as there is no xhair showing where the arrow will land.
You can't auto aim.
Tapping B will fire off a quick shot but 8 times out of 10 it will miss.
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Before the chopper where you go into the military base and are attacked by those mini radio controlled helicopters - I spent several hours playing the game under the impression that those mini choppers were invincible. I'd try to jump across those moving platforms only to be knocked off by their blue beams. I honestly never thought I was capable of swearing so much. Then I descovered the box of arrows - Doh! :brickwall
they just respawn though and I agree they were very annoying!!
Jimmyboy
23-03-2004, 01:27
Originally posted by Goblin
they just respawn though and I agree they were very annoying!!
Blow up about 10 of em and they eventually bugger off.
I'm now on level 10 Giant worm which I thought was hard enough until about 10 minutes further in the game when you're expected to take on 2 of the things at the same time.
Any tips?
Oh and has anyone managed to upgrade the wooden sword?
I brought it but can't be arsed knocking up the funds required to keep upgrading it which makes it a pretty useless item coz it's only really effective when maxed out.
I will probably just stick with the dragon sword, it seems to be the best weapon overall.
Jimmyboy
23-03-2004, 02:21
Originally posted by Saber
I will probably just stick with the dragon sword, it seems to be the best weapon overall.
You kidding?
I don't know how I'd have got this far without the upgraded Flare Nunchuku thingies. It's much better than the dragon sword when you're surrounded.
neilalford
23-03-2004, 09:04
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
You kidding?
I don't know how I'd have got this far without the upgraded Flare Nunchuku thingies. It's much better than the dragon sword when you're surrounded.
I tend to stick with the Dragon Sword (level 3) and just use the vigorian flail for the Black Ninja's.
Currently at the blue beam firing robots, no problem beating them,
just use the windmill shuriken, pretty much auto-aiming and a one hit kill
Oh, and I agree about Rachel covered in slime, I could definitely see the Japanese influence there :norty:
Welshlad
23-03-2004, 09:35
ARGH! How stupid is that bit on the military control tower?
I was there for nearly an hour continually trying to dodge a continuous stream of missiles while trying to take the blokes out! There was absolutely NO clue I could see to suggest you only had to
Hit the satellite dishes!!!!!!
Now on chapter 10 - how many are there?
The cut scenes are awesome in this game aren't they? :)
Wasting arrows on the helicopters :o
As said above, Windmill is the way to go :thumbs:
Also agree that the Dragon Sword is far superior in many situations to the Flail, cant be beat for speed.
As for the 2 worms, same with most bosses really, patience. Don't expect to beat a boss in 30 seconds by button bashing. Wait it out, jump when they swoop/lunge, then unleash a little combo. Rinse and repeat.
Goblin - worked a treat. I must be blind. However, now I'm at:
bloody great lava dragon. OUCH.....knew I should have gone back to save before opening that door, lol
Arrows auto-aimed nicely for me on the Chapter 2 Horse boss :wave:
the Dragon is easy mate, it looks hard with all its moving platforms but its not.
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
I'm now on level 10 Giant worm which I thought was hard enough until about 10 minutes further in the game when you're expected to take on 2 of the things at the same time.
Any tips?
one of the hardest parts in the game imo, in the end I just maxed out all my weapons and health for a quick kill. I wish I knew about those blue beam machines not re-spawning, trying to jump over platforms while constantly getting knocked off was annoying.
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
You kidding?
I don't know how I'd have got this far without the upgraded Flare Nunchuku thingies. It's much better than the dragon sword when you're surrounded.
I have to admit I've only been using the the Dragon Sword, had a quick go with the others but went straight back to the sword. Also what the hell's that wooden sword I spent money on all about! :nuts:
Actually don't tell me it's probably some sort of supprise!
Jimmyboy
23-03-2004, 17:05
Originally posted by 007
I have to admit I've only been using the the Dragon Sword, had a quick go with the others but went straight back to the sword. Also what the hell's that wooden sword I spent money on all about! :nuts:
Actually don't tell me it's probably some sort of supprise!
The wooden sword is a piece of crap unless you max it out and then it becomes the best weapon in the game. The only thing is you need massive funds to purchase the upgrades - level 1 is 3000, level 2 - 5000, level 3 - 10000, and so on. I think there's about 7 or 8 levels so you can imagine how much it would cost to max it out. The only way you could do it would be to keep going back to respawn areas, frankly I can't be arsed so I'm left with a Woodern sword which does bugger all. :D
Can't believe most people are sticking with the dragon sword tbh. In tight areas when you're surrounded the Flail can't be beat. It tends to cover all around you and stuns enemies charging at you whilst you're combo-ing someone else better. I find that the dragon sword is good for one on one battles but when you're surrounded it leaves your back to exposed. Plus the Flail lands a far higher combo score.
Um, how do I save on this please? :confused:
Oh I see, at a save point.... feeling silly :o
Cheers Jimmyboy, I'll give the flail a try.
I'm getting my arse whooped by the first guy.. I tried blocking and then laying it on him which works as i block when he starts. However, when he gets too close he simlpy grabs me and kicks me to the floor (DOA style).
:help:
Originally posted by amkhan
I'm getting my arse whooped by the first guy.. I tried blocking and then laying it on him which works as i block when he starts. However, when he gets too close he simlpy grabs me and kicks me to the floor (DOA style).
:help:
Don't let him get too close. After you've done a few hits to him, hold L and push away to roll back, then launch yourself up the wall, jump off and use that sword to ground slash attack. Hopefully he'll follow you in and incur major damage. Roll away again, wait for him to finish flailing his 'chuks like a mad man, and repeat that tactic.
@mattkbishop
Ta muchly :thumbs:
Jimmyboy
24-03-2004, 15:17
Mission 12 -
How do I smash the wall to the Ice Caverns?
It tells me to use a very blunt object but I only have Nunchunkus, Dragon Sword, Flares Nuchuckus, Spear Gun, Woodern Sword, and Dukus sword.
I'm guessing I need thw war hammer but I haven't found it yet...?:thinking:
Added spoiler tags - Kryten
Anthony.S
24-03-2004, 15:55
Some err "nice" screenshots here (http://www.neotaku.com/gaiden/screens_rachelcg.html)
Only seem to focus on one character tho' :norty:
Jimmyboy
24-03-2004, 16:03
Figured it out now.
Didn't think I'd spoiled anything matt in that description.:thinking:
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Didn't think I'd spoiled anything matt in that description.:thinking:
I have no idea, but I added spoiler tags just in case ;)
Oh I think I read it wrong sorry. My bad.
neilalford
24-03-2004, 17:41
Jimmyboy - You've missed the warhammer, I picked it up on about level 8.
After fighting rachels sister in the cathedral you see the cut scene of Doku grabbing rachel and her dropping the warhammer, you then start the next level outside the cathedral. If you then go back inside you can find the warhammer lying on the floor.
Jimmyboy
25-03-2004, 00:46
Originally posted by neilalford
Jimmyboy - You've missed the warhammer, I picked it up on about level 8.
After fighting rachels sister in the cathedral you see the cut scene of Doku grabbing rachel and her dropping the warhammer, you then start the next level outside the cathedral. If you then go back inside you can find the warhammer lying on the floor.
Thanks for the info.
I gave some golden scarabs to the shop keeper and he gave me the Dabilahro Sword which does the trick.
Damn I missed the warhammer but I did manage to:
Pick up the big returning shuriken inside the alley near the bar.
Jimmyboy
25-03-2004, 04:38
Originally posted by 007
Damn I missed the warhammer but I did manage to:
Pick up the big returning shuriken inside the alley near the bar.
Don't worry to much about not picking up the war hammer.
Keep giving your golden scarabs to the shop keeper and you'll get something much better. :thumbs:
Jimmyboy
25-03-2004, 20:35
Finally completed it! :thumbs:
It took me around 25 hours not including reloads. That's about the same time it takes to complete Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2nd time round. :eek:
Some thoughts - Although there was something here to keep me playing all the way to the end it seems to be more out of annoyance at the cheating AI and a feeling that it's all unfair rather than being because it's enjoyable to play. While the early part of the game within the natural Japanese setting is excellent it all goes a bit pear shaped when you start meeting enemies from the Resident Evil games and unfortunately they make up the vast bulk). I can understand the need to have the occasional dragon to fight but I'd have preferred it more if the game stayed more within a reality setting.
The story is all other the place and barely makes sense much of the time. I didn't really know why I was doing the things I was doing. Yes there's a powerful sword in the wrong hands, yes there's a little issue of revenge, but I can't really understand why I found myself dressed as a Ninja whilst travelling on an air blimp which just happened to be going somewhere vaguely in the direction the character needed to go. Then there's the issue of Rachel, who despite early on in the game looks like a pivotal character and possibly potential love interest turns out to be largely irrelevant, even with the loosely thrown in sister plot. Then there's the issue of Ayane from the DOA games who I assume is the one who keeps chucking the information throwing stars at you. But who, what, where, and why? Oh and what exactly was the point of the Nazi stereotype trenchcoat guy?
Then there's some hideous flaws with the dynamics. The game is always hard enough to make each potential fight your last and with the save points scattered, does this really make for an enjoyable experience? As mentioned previously I played the game to the end often out of a matter of principle rather than it being highly entertaining. The controls and the camera quirks means that often mistakes are made which you have no control over which is unfair to the extreme. The game lacks any originality consisting of a hybrid mix of Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, and Tomb Raider. End of level bosses often have a massive advantage due to the iffy camera angles and a range of special attacks which suck up huge amounts of energy. Personally I would have preferred the bosses dishing out less damage with healing potions being less of a pivotal factor to victory or failure. Too many bosses were only beaten by maxing up the healing potions in the inventory and sucking up damage with the hope you can maintain a longer fight and therefore increase your chance of victory. There were only a few occasions where a feeling of satisfaction came from beating a boss due to a skilful understanding of the game dynamics and control system - that's largely down to the erratic nature and difficulty of the bosses themselves meaning that even a master player is almost as likely to get whacked 4 or 5 times by a boss before finally making it through.
Despite all this I still think it's a really great game, it's just a little too traditional in style for my taste. Some people will consider this a pure and genuine video game like a real 87 coin-up should be. But for the me the frustrating nature of these type of games can hinder the enjoyment of playing them. I'd still say the many faults are generally out weighed by the quality for the most part though. It would have been nice not to have to keep doing the same bits over and over again due to the occasional awkwardly placed save point but still..... The option to save after every step isn't really a satisfactory answer either.
Oh and the ending is crap! :D
Some notes on bosses and Stuff -
Obviously Alma at the end of Mission 7 springs to mind.
I hate to think how many attempts it took me to beat her and even when I did I was craping myself coz I'd been forced to use up loads of goodies.
The Helicopter Boss - Probably worked out at around medium difficulty after I'd taken the time to suss out all his specials. However the limited space and the dodgy camera angles would often result in his missile attacks being near unavoidable. An unfair factor but reasonably straight forward to take down.
Ancient Dragon - A bit of an odd one this as the AI seems a bit over the place. The dragon in my experience had periodic bouts of stupidity and intelligence and as this one is a lonnnngg drawn out fight you never really know how cheeky to be with your moves because you can't tell how smart the AI will be when you make the attack. This can result in complacency in your style of fighting which gets you whacked or an overly defensive nature (which can cause you more harm as blocking up leaves you more exposed to special moves and throws) depending on how the fight goes.
Alma 2 - Doh not again!.
I was hoping she might be easier 2nd time around - not in my experience!. Couldn't be arsed getting into a drawn out fight with her again after all the swearing I did last time, so just maxed up on health potions and sucked up the damage letting of periodic combos when possible. She's just to hard, frustrating, and unpredictable to work out a strategy for.
Spirit Doku - Possibly the toughest boss in the game I reckon (which is bizarre coz I finished off normal Doku quite easily) although again not because he's hard as such, but because he's unpredictable. I couldn't work out much of a strategy to guarantee success, just stay close, roll to his blind side and dish out combos. It's impossible to avoid all his specials all the time so again it's a case of winning a fight due to maxing up on potions rather than needing silky skills.
Giant Ice Creature 2 - I didn't take any damage when fighting this thing in the ice caverns, so how come at the end of the game where you're forced to fight a series of bosses I found him so hard to beat? He kept catching me with the hand grab move (partly down to the dodgy camera spinning round so that I end up jumping into it instead of away) which knocks off loads of energy.
Lord of the Fiends - This guy had a reputation of being easy but he gave me some problems. I didn't really figure out a strategy as throwing the fight to figure one out would mean doing all the bosses over again. Instead I ran all the way back to the shop to max out on health's and blitzed out sucking up damage.
Vigoorian Emperor II - The first time you face this thing it's quite easy, but second time proved quite taxing. You can't hit him when he's on the fire and his skull bite move can take you out in one. I can't actually recall how I beat him although I remember the fire spell did him a lot of damage when I could get near - bizarre considering he stands in the fire for protection himself.
Fire Worm - Annoying this one. I found him just as difficult as the 2 electric worms partly because I struggled to avoid the round fire bolt he spits out (camera angles again).
Flame Dragon - I did this boss in 1 attempt without taking hardly any damage. From what I've heard since it sounds like I got lucky.
The Tentacle Fiend is probably the only straight forward boss in the whole game tbh.
RexMundi
26-03-2004, 01:09
I take it that it (the USA version) won't work on an unmodded PAL Xbox?:confused:
Nope it won't, only a Pal version will work on an unmodded Pal xbox.
Sadly I think the UK date is something like May 7th. :(
Jimmyboy
26-03-2004, 02:18
Are you enjoying it yet Matt?
Jimmyboy
26-03-2004, 03:44
oops.
have to say I felt the same about the plot Jimmy, Im actually suprised you finished it because it sounds as though you hated it! :lol:
Jimmyboy
26-03-2004, 16:29
Originally posted by Goblin
have to say I felt the same about the plot Jimmy, Im actually suprised you finished it because it sounds as though you hated it! :lol:
Maybe I'm just miffed at the lack of extras for finishing such a solid game. :D
It has it's faults but the mix of old and new styles of gaming is impressive and I have found myself going back to play it again so I guess it does have a certain x factor.
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Maybe I'm just miffed at the lack of extras for finishing such a solid game. :D
you mean you werent impressed with the fantastic,
new clothes and a plasma sword which just turns out to be the dragon sword with a green glowing blade! :D
Jimmyboy
26-03-2004, 16:45
Originally posted by Goblin
you mean you werent impressed with the fantastic,
new clothes and a plasma sword which just turns out to be the dragon sword with a green glowing blade! :D
Nope. ;)
...and what makes it more annoying is that you can't play your successful play save file and wear the new clothes because you need to start a whole new game to get them.
I've heard that if you beat the game on Very Hard you get......wait for it............................. Evil Ryu!!!! - That's the same Ryu you play as anyway for the last 2 levels. :brickwall :nuts:
LOL.
The successive save did annoy me, especially since I hadnt realised you could spend them scarabs until I'd completed the game so I ended up spending 40+ on the first level and only got a Health & Magic boost! :brickwall
Jimmyboy
30-03-2004, 16:38
Discovered a new feature for finishing the game - the option to hear the full soundtrack in the sound menu. :nuts:
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Discovered a new feature for finishing the game - the option to hear the full soundtrack in the sound menu. :nuts:
there was music in this game? :confused: :D
neilalford
01-04-2004, 09:06
Woo-hoo, completed it last night.
Couple of questions, is there any point of using the new saved game to start again? (Can't think of the name of it) As far as I can see you get to keep your golden scarabs (but apparently all the ones you've found are missing from the game), any other advantage?
I like the plasma sword, mainly just because it sounds like a lightsabre!
Also amused to see that there is now a "Very Hard" difficulty level available! :eek:
Originally posted by neilalford
Couple of questions, is there any point of using the new saved game to start again? (Can't think of the name of it) As far as I can see you get to keep your golden scarabs (but apparently all the ones you've found are missing from the game), any other advantage?
If you continue with your save and try to spend your scarabs you dont get anything, I think its to stop you getting the best weapons early on in the game! :(
I spent 40 and got a Life-Up. :brickwall
Just started playing this and I'm already stuck!
On the top part of the airship - inside the actual balloon bit. I've beaten all the ninjas but have come to a dead end.
I can see a ladder whilst standing on top of a big crate but can't seem to get up on it.
Am I barking up the wrong tree?
Originally posted by Ono
Just started playing this and I'm already stuck!
On the top part of the airship - inside the actual balloon bit. I've beaten all the ninjas but have come to a dead end.
I can see a ladder whilst standing on top of a big crate but can't seem to get up on it.
Am I barking up the wrong tree?
Nope. Face the ladder, run up the left wall flipping yourself onto the slyly hidden ledge on the right side of it. Sneaky ************.
Cheers Matt.
Got up there now and promptly got killed by the boss :|
This game remind me a lot of the old 2D Shinobi on Megadrive. Rock hard. :thumbs:
So i'm about 10 hours in, and right now i'm annoyed:
It's the twin electric eels. Really putting me off playing, but hopefully i'll get them soon.
Otherwise, an excellent game which i'm thoroughly enjoying through the frustration.
They annoyed me too, I just wanted to get past them asap so went and maxed out every item through the store statue, still took me two attempts then :lol:
neilalford
12-04-2004, 09:35
I thought the eels were one of the easiest bosses in the game, could pretty much get past them without loosing any health (except through silly mistakes)
Stay back in the far corner of the room, whenever a worm comes out chuck windmill shurikens at it, if they fire at you jump it, if they swing at you just roll away towards the corner and they will miss you, occaisionally the worm will crash down and stay still for a bit, you can usually get a couple of sword hits in at that point as well. Other than that, stay out of the water so you don't get fried and concentrate on killing one worm at a time
Finally got round to completing this excellent game. Took me 25 hours and I have to say it's the best game I've played in a long time.
Hardest bosses for me where the First and Last!
Who happen to be the same person!
Originally posted by 007
Finally got round to completing this excellent game. Took me 25 hours and I have to say it's the best game I've played in a long time.
Hardest bosses for me where the First and Last!
Who happen to be the same person!
you thought the last boss was harder then the 3 bosses in one go? despite taking me 4 attempts I thought he was one of the easy ones, Im glad they didnt make us do all that lava dodging before getting another attempt at him. :D
3 bosses in one go?
Do you mean the ones before opening the door to the bone stairs?
Nah took a few attempt but they weren't that tough!
I found the last boss easily the hardest but then I only had 1 health potion left. After many attemts I went back a save and did the emporer using less potions so that I had a few left for the final one.
neilalford
20-04-2004, 08:09
Well, just unlocked the original Ninja Gaiden game, things have moved on a bit since then haven't they :)
Also had a quick try on the "Very Hard" setting, just about made it to the first boss!
fivebyfive
21-04-2004, 15:42
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55274
Microsoft UK has finally confirmed that the PAL version of Ninja Gaiden has been stripped of its gory decapitation routines, despite playing down reports to that effect earlier in the year.
evilashchris
21-04-2004, 21:14
well they have lost my money then.. i won't buy a censored film, i am certainly not going to buy a censored game.. shame really *crosses fingers for the xbox freeloader*:nuts:
I suspect it might be worth starting a new thread to alert everyone that the Euro version is censored.
So there's only one way to play the uncut version then....and I suppose that's to get a US xbox. Oh hang on, two ways... ;)
Bleeders
22-04-2004, 07:47
I do not understand why Microsoft UK are censoring this! I've played through the US version and the decapitation, if anything, serves as to recognise when a foe has gone down.
It's not just there for the aesthetical value. :mad:
neilalford
22-04-2004, 08:08
Originally posted by Bleeders
I do not understand why Microsoft UK are censoring this! I've played through the US version and the decapitation, if anything, serves as to recognise when a foe has gone down.
It's not just there for the aesthetical value. :mad:
In fact for some of the enemies it's actually a sensible tactic to decapitate them first before killing them as it removes their most powerful attack!
TBH the decapitations brought nothing to the game, I hardly noticed them except for the first few times it happened.
It is rubbish they removed them but it wont spoil the game.
Bleeders
22-04-2004, 08:47
Originally posted by neilalford
In fact for some of the enemies it's actually a sensible tactic to decapitate them first before killing them as it removes their most powerful attack!
Agreed - such as the hammer-wielding zombies for example.
Savagexii
22-04-2004, 11:23
Not having access to "Live" and what have you, so excuse me if this seems a silly question, but would it be possible that this "censoring" can be undone with some sort of patch that could perhaps be available via magazines etc at some point? Just a thought (hope).
Bleeders
22-04-2004, 12:05
I wouldn't have thought so mate, purely because Tecmo would've had to remove the decapitation animation from the game.
Savagexii
22-04-2004, 14:40
Ah fair enough then :) A real shame, i suppose we should be used to this type of censoring by now though.
Can anyone with the US one try it in a PAL console? I'm curious as to whether the region encoding was removed (due to the inclusion of Live support).
I doubt it, but you never know...
Bleeders
23-04-2004, 07:54
It doesn't work sadly, already been tried. :(
In fact, thinking about it, this is more of a stupid move on Microsoft's part, since now one of the weapon's in the game is now made kinda redundant, since it's primary job was to decapitate. Alright, it does damage without slicing the head off, but half the fun was using it and watching the head drop off. ;)
I got this today and so far I really like it. It is a bit Prince of Persia button bashing-type combat though. Even by the time I got to the first boss (who completely wiped the floor with me BTW) I felt like I'd been in an actual fight.
I didn't know about the changes to the PAL version but sadly I don't have much choice if I want to play it. There is another issue that PAL X-box owners should be aware of. Ninja Gaiden suffers from absolutely awful texture tearing in the default PAL mode. You need to set the X-box to PAL 60 and the problem is completely solved. I think PAL 60 would have been the first choice for some anyway, but I just thought I would post about it.
VintageWhino
15-05-2004, 02:04
got this today. it's 3am and after 2 hours have just hit a brick wall with the big metal gun fella. Bassid is a tough one.
Got my copy this morning. Stuck on the 1st Boss. Why am I so rubbish at this type of game :( :cry:
thesnowman
15-05-2004, 10:21
I know I cant even get his health down to the half way point before he kicks my sorry ass. Any tips anyone?
Originally posted by thesnowman
I know I cant even get his health down to the half way point before he kicks my sorry ass. Any tips anyone?
From what I can remember, hit and move, don't stand in front of him too long. Also use the walls to jump and attack.
He's VERY hard for a first boss but that's probably also because you're only just learning the moves.
thesnowman
15-05-2004, 11:15
Finally got past him, found it easier to use the wall jump and run away, not really the ninja way, but ho hum.
Just noticed that in the options screen, there is a Country of residence option, which can be set to USA...
I wonder...
:D
Otherwise superb game, really well done, and far better than I expected. Just got to the...
airship
...after about 2 hours play and am thoroughly enjoying it.
VintageWhino
15-05-2004, 18:13
hehe, I've just finished the airship level and am now in the "evil" town. Have lost patience for today it took me 5 goes to beat the tank man.
Just got the nunchucks, good fun.
any tips on how to kill the guy on the horse with the floating ninjas (seriously annoying me now)
and I've got the US version and to be honest you don't really miss that much but it is quite nice to see the head fall off... hehe.
I found that :
using the charged up version of the Y move (which absorbs the floating souls that the floaty ninja's drop)
was the best way to get him.
Jimmyboy
16-05-2004, 01:09
Originally posted by tomw3uk
any tips on how to kill the guy on the horse with the floating ninjas (seriously annoying me now)
Tis really easy when you know how.
Take out the floating ninjas first as quick as possible - flying swallow is your best bet. Then empty your arrows on the horseman. That should get his energy down to around a quater. Finish him off by seducing him into charging at you then roll out the way and slash the back of the horses legs.
A couple of sites to buy Ninja Gaiden from below.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000A5B7H/thedvdforums-21&path=tg
http://tracker.tradedoubler.com/pan/TrackerServlet?p=12813&a=60823&g=80187&url=http://shop.game.net/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=10146&mid=272410
and here's why FMH should stick to shooting half-naked women and not reviewing,
Word is that this epic ninja slasher is awesome. But we're buggered if we know. After 18 mnutes of superb balletic sworldplay we met a boss so fiendishly, ludicrously difficult to master, that we tried about 50 times, before grumily frisbeeing the disc at the PR's head. A pointless waste of everyones time made worse by the fact that it does look so tantalisingly good.
1/5
if your still not convinced they gave Kill Bill 1&2 a crazy 4/5 stars ;)
twicenightly
16-05-2004, 12:15
Having had the game a couple of days, I'm starting to agree with their review
thesnowman
16-05-2004, 12:22
lol, good old fhm. Must admit it took me ages to get past him first time round, but I took it up to my mates last night to let him have a look at it, and after he got stuck on him I done him first time. Pitty same cant be said for the 2nd boss.
stick at it, after I finished the game I replayed the first two levels and beat both bosses on the first attempt, practice does make perfect!! .... but if it takes you 50 attempts on any boss, just quit! :lol:
Just got to the 3rd boss, only had 1 attempt so far and decided to quit for some food. He's a nasty one though :)
Sabre UK
16-05-2004, 16:57
I'm up to Chapter 5 now. Loving it, it's an amazing game.
Is it gay-den or guy-den?
Welshlad
16-05-2004, 17:38
:notworthy Wow! what an incredible game! :notworthy
Ive just this second completed it....how cool am i? ;)
All I can say is wow! this game absolutely rocked from start to finish. witout doubt the toughest game i have ever played, let alone completed! Theres no way i've got the balls to go back and do it on difficult!
OMFG! How hard is the fifteenth chapter?!?!?!
Probably the best looking game I have ever seen too. The cutscenes are just awesome (although i dont like the way you cant skip them! especially when you die about a dozen times on the same level and have to keep rewatching them.
If you have an Xbox, you owe it to yourself to buy this game....absolutely genius! :notworthy
edit: just noticed there is now a VERY HARD option....are they having a laugh or what?
I'm sure you can skip the cutscenes. I did it by pressing Back and then Start.
Welshlad
16-05-2004, 17:53
really?
that's good then (but a bit late now! :lol: )
Jimmyboy
16-05-2004, 19:43
Originally posted by Goblin
stick at it, after I finished the game I replayed the first two levels and beat both bosses on the first attempt, practice does make perfect!! .... but if it takes you 50 attempts on any boss, just quit! :lol:
Yeah the 1st 2 bosses are EDIT easy after you've finished it.
I think the problem people have with the bosses is that they treat the game like pure hack and slash when really there's a great deal of strategy involved.
That FHM review is quite ammusing though, what do you expect from a magazine run by neds. I'd like to have seen them try the 7th level boss! ;)
Read the T&Cs (www.thedvdforums.com) regarding swearing
thesnowman
16-05-2004, 20:06
On the 5th level and struggling at the minute.
Just saved and then about 3 black ninjas attack me, then go round and into the circle were the gates come down and those 3 guards come out (but they are easy), then leave there and have about 8 black ninjas again. Once I have done them I go into another arena and there are those 3 dragon things, then once I have done them there is the boss. Cant help but think there should be a save point before u do the 3 dragons. It is doing my nut in
lol ... agreed it was a slightly unfair position on the game save. Thankfully its probably the only time in the game where the save point was so far from a boss.
dco_chris
16-05-2004, 20:45
Originally posted by thesnowman
On the 5th level and struggling at the minute.
Just saved and then about 3 black ninjas attack me, then go round and into the circle were the gates come down and those 3 guards come out (but they are easy), then leave there and have about 8 black ninjas again. Once I have done them I go into another arena and there are those 3 dragon things, then once I have done them there is the boss. Cant help but think there should be a save point before u do the 3 dragons. It is doing my nut in
If you are where I think you are and want to save a bit of health and time, as soon as the 8 (or however many) ninjas appear run backwards (still facing the ninjas). They will vanish in a puff of smoke:D
Originally posted by dco_chris
If you are where I think you are and want to save a bit of health and time, as soon as the 8 (or however many) ninjas appear run backwards (still facing the ninjas). They will vanish in a puff of smoke:D
honestly?
dco_chris
17-05-2004, 00:23
Originally posted by Goblin
honestly?
Yep. Discovered it by accident, but I see that it is in one of the guides at gamefaqs too.
neilalford
17-05-2004, 10:38
I'm currently playing it through for the third time, this time on Hard mode, on level 9 or 10 at the moment. Had a quick go on very hard, but found that a bit tough!
Originally posted by neilalford
I'm currently playing it through for the third time, this time on Hard mode, on level 9 or 10 at the moment. Had a quick go on very hard, but found that a bit tough!
You look like the man to ask.
I'm on Chapter 9 and have defeated the two tanks and have been rewarded with the helicopter gunship raining pain down upon me. I'm a little stuck as I only have one FULL health bar and no elxir or ninpo any advice would be appreciated! :)
neilalford
19-05-2004, 08:26
Originally posted by CyR4X
You look like the man to ask.
I'm on Chapter 9 and have defeated the two tanks and have been rewarded with the helicopter gunship raining pain down upon me. I'm a little stuck as I only have one FULL health bar and no elxir or ninpo any advice would be appreciated! :)
Spoilers for chapter 9
Ouch! I found the helicopter very tough even with some health spare.
Obvious things, use the ADFS Cores on it, block its gunfire and to avoid the missiles jump out of the way at the very last second as they home in. I've also heard a rumour that hitting the searchlight on the front does slightly more damage, though I'm not certain about that. You can also get plenty of shots in when it goes under the bridge and starts coming up the other side.
Other than that there's not much I can suggest other than going back a bit and trying to get there with slightly more health.
Thanks for the reply Neil, I'll certainly try dodging slightly later but it one tough b*****d! :)
Still, its a fantastic game and a challenge is what I need ... I'm just not sure that my pad can take all the abuse. :)
Cheers!
Mr Jolly
19-05-2004, 17:43
The camera's a bit roping isn't it. It keeps following behind and going round corners is usually done blindly.
I find it helps to hold the R trigger in when running through narrow streets/alleys etc
thesnowman
20-05-2004, 15:13
Originally posted by dco_chris
If you are where I think you are and want to save a bit of health and time, as soon as the 8 (or however many) ninjas appear run backwards (still facing the ninjas). They will vanish in a puff of smoke:D
Cheers I will go off home now and try that out.
DarthPearce
28-05-2004, 10:17
Being playing this for a couple of nights and I'm now on Level 4. I've just reached the nightclub and seen the message that tells of 'a very powerful weapon hidden in a dark alley where only a Ninja can reach'. Any clues on where this is?
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Being playing this for a couple of nights and I'm now on Level 4. I've just reached the nightclub and seen the message that tells of 'a very powerful weapon hidden in a dark alley where only a Ninja can reach'. Any clues on where this is?
Look around you and you should see a dead end alley. Look up and you should see some blue lines. You need to wall run along the lines and jump from one to another to reach a ledge. You should fine the windmill shuriken
dco_chris
28-05-2004, 10:58
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Being playing this for a couple of nights and I'm now on Level 4. I've just reached the nightclub and seen the message that tells of 'a very powerful weapon hidden in a dark alley where only a Ninja can reach'. Any clues on where this is?
In the alley next to where you get that message there are blue strips along several of the walls. You need to wall run along the first strip and jump from wall to wall while running, at the end you will land on a platform containing the windmill shuriken and a big silver xbox.
edit: Beaten to it.
DVDWotcha
01-06-2004, 13:22
Just got this recently and so far just at chapter 3.
First Boss wasn't too tricky. Load of wall jumps sorted him. 2nd boss took many attempts though. In the end I gave up with trying any specific tactics, I just went for a block and counter approach with a bit of Ninpo thrown in. Worked fine.
So I'm quite enjoying this now but still having problem mastering the moves. Firstly, I keep trying to pull PoP moves, particularly when surrounded by enemy, Ryu will only attack one at a time, where as with PoP you could bounce off all three at the same time. Secondly, the Ultimate techniques just don't seem to fit into combat. It takes too long for the essence to become attracted, so I tend to get sliced up while waiting. Or maybe I'm just too slow.
Any tips on this ?
DarthPearce
02-06-2004, 09:56
Any tips on defeating the boss on level 6 (or maybe 7) - it's the large skeleton of a creature - it's after the consecutive battles against the zombies where you have to go down and get a goblet and then go all the way back up with zombies on each level . I'm completely out of potions to restire my health now so I'm finding it tough to defeat it. :(
DVDWotcha
02-06-2004, 13:36
Chapter 3 boss polished off. Just have to keep close to him and block'n'roll when he goes to grab you. He doesn't use his weapon when you are up close.
Anyhow. Another question. Is it worth upgrading my dragon sword, or should I just keep upgrading the wooden one ?
TheCookieMonster
02-06-2004, 14:14
Anyhow. Another question. Is it worth upgrading my dragon sword, or should I just keep upgrading the wooden one ?
Yes keep upgrading your other weapons as the wooden sword takes ages to upgrade fully ;)
Jimmyboy
02-06-2004, 15:17
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Any tips on defeating the boss on level 6 (or maybe 7) - it's the large skeleton of a creature - it's after the consecutive battles against the zombies where you have to go down and get a goblet and then go all the way back up with zombies on each level . I'm completely out of potions to restire my health now so I'm finding it tough to defeat it. :(
One of the easiest bosses in the game actually so you should be able to beat him without potions with a bit of practise. It's a fairly straight forward strategy of attacking the feet with the flying swallow, roll away when the bones break and come down on you, and remember to jump when he sweeps with his tail. It's the tail sweep which causes massive damage so it's vital you avoid it.
DVDWotcha
03-06-2004, 12:39
Chapter 4. All this respawning is doing my head in. :help:
DarthPearce
10-06-2004, 09:24
I'm getting annoyed at the end of level7 - Am I missing a save point as you seem to have to go a long way back and go through the horrendously long fight in the library before meeting the boss and getting killed very quickly (Alma?)
I can't seem to damage her even using the upgraded fireball Ninpo - any tips?
Originally posted by AndyPearce
I'm getting annoyed at the end of level7 - Am I missing a save point as you seem to have to go a long way back and go through the horrendously long fight in the library before meeting the boss and getting killed very quickly (Alma?)
I can't seem to damage her even using the upgraded fireball Ninpo - any tips?
:D
probably the most annoying boss in the game, especially as it cheats and throws more pillars then there are! The save point is a long way back but don't go through the library, just drop of the edge.
DarthPearce
10-06-2004, 10:54
Originally posted by Goblin
:D
probably the most annoying boss in the game, especially as it cheats and throws more pillars then there are! The save point is a long way back but don't go through the library, just drop of the edge.
Thanks - do you know if I can go into the library after I have defeated her? I don't want to miss out on the stone which increases my Ki limit.
neilalford
10-06-2004, 11:00
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Thanks - do you know if I can go into the library after I have defeated her? I don't want to miss out on the stone which increases my Ki limit.
You can't I'm afraid, how about getting the stone then heading back down the lift (in the study with the safe) to the underwater section (The Junction Chamber), then saving before fighting her. There's a save point through a passage underwater, near the bottom of the lift shaft.
DarthPearce
10-06-2004, 11:28
Originally posted by neilalford
You can't I'm afraid, how about getting the stone then heading back down the lift (in the study with the safe) to the underwater section (The Junction Chamber), then saving before fighting her. There's a save point through a passage underwater, near the bottom of the lift shaft.
Weird - I went through there but I'm sure there was only a lift that wouldn't work but no save point.:searchme:
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Weird - I went through there but I'm sure there was only a lift that wouldn't work but no save point.:searchme:
nope theres definatly a save point, thats where I saved, then you have to swim to the stupid lift everytime! :brickwall
neilalford
10-06-2004, 12:51
Originally posted by AndyPearce
Weird - I went through there but I'm sure there was only a lift that wouldn't work but no save point.:searchme:
If I remember correctly you should have come up in the lift from the underwater section before you fight her, you get out of the lift, fight 3 ninjas, then head to the main cathedral to fight her. I'm sure the lift should still be working at that point and you can go back down if you want.
edit - Oh you mean the stone lift in the junction chamber, yep, that won't work yet but there should be a save point right next to it in the corner of the room. Unless it's changed for the UK release, mine is a US version.
DarthPearce
10-06-2004, 12:54
Originally posted by neilalford
If I remember correctly you should have come up in the lift from the underwater section before you fight her, you get out of the lift, fight 3 ninjas, then head to the main cathedral to fight her. I'm sure the lift should still be working at that point and you can go back down if you want.
Yep - the lift does still work. I think Goblin is saying that at the bottom of that liftshaft you end up in the water. If you dive down there's a tunnel which runs to a cavern with aplatform on that doesn't work , in which is a save point. I've been to the cavern but couldn't remember seeing the save point.
TheCookieMonster
10-06-2004, 13:13
I thought she was pretty easy, just keep on Ninpo fireballing her, this stuns her and makes her fall to the floor where you can get a few good hits in :thumbs:
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