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Michael Brooke
23-10-2001, 10:01
I was surprised not to see much discussion of this here, so I thought I'd kick off a thread, as I've just ploughed through about half of it.

In a word: phenomenal. This is one of the best DVD packages I've ever seen, not only boasting a superb transfer but a shedload of extras that are not only fascinating to watch but which, like the French <I>In the Mood for Love</I>, actually show genuine creative imagination behind them - they're so far ahead of the usual bog-standard featurette/trailer/notes/biographies package that there's no comparison.

The first disc comes with a huge number of soundtrack and subtitle options, and for once it's worth exploring most of them. The soundtrack has been remixed to Dolby Digital 5.1, though brownie points are scored for including the original mono track as well, there are two commentaries by various Pythons (neither of which I've listened to yet) and a French dub, which might get more of a workout than these things usually do, for reasons which I'll come to.

Things start getting creative with the subtitles - you have the choice of normal hard-of-hearing ones, the screenplay presented in parallel (I haven't explored this one yet) and, weirdest of all, a whole new set of far more literary subtitles adapted from Shakespeare's <I>Henry IV Part II</I> and included "for people who don't like the film". I initially assumed that this would merely be the text of the play unsynchronised to the film dialogue, but in fact the subtitles make use of lines that do at least partially resemble the spoken text, though I preferred to watch the soundtrack in French where these were on, as it's somewhat jarring having to deal with totally different English dialogue simultaneously!

There's also a "follow the killer rabbit" feature, which offers insights into the mind of Terry Gilliam (via sketches and storyboards) and the film's production accountant (where you're informed how much certain props and special effects cost) if you click on the white rabbit every time it appears - if it has a green pound sign printed on it, you get the accountant's contribution.

Disc two is where the rest of the extras lurk - and, again, quantity <U>and</U> quality are uppermost. The high point is an immensely engaging 45-minute piece by Terry Jones and Michael Palin in which they wander round the film's locations (I was strangely unsurprised to discover that the same castle stood in for 95% of them!) and reminisce about shooting the film 26 years on, but there's also a 20-minute BBC location report from 1974, loads of stills, sketches and notes, cast biographies, trailers (including the legendary original Japanese subtitled one), something purporting to be a location scouting documentary with commentary from Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam that makes use of stock footage from all over the world, subtitled karaoke versions of the Camelot and Sir Robin songs, and instructions in how to use your DVD box to beat your forehead along with the chanting monks.

Best of all, there are two excerpts from the legendary Japanese version, complete with subtitles. Much, much funnier than a simple case of dubbing it into Japanese and presenting the original English dialogue, the subtitles look as though they were translated by someone totally unfamiliar with the original, hence references to "the holy sake cup" and the terror the Knights who say Ni! evoke via the word "bonsai".

And finally, there's the already legendary Lego version - which consists of the Camelot song staged using stop-motion Lego figures, and there's not a lot more I can add to that: it's exactly what it sounds like!

This is a very cursory overview from memory, so I've probably left a few things out - feel free to mention any more!

robbiejm
23-10-2001, 10:08
"Pull the other one!"

feverpitch96
23-10-2001, 10:13
Originally posted by robbiejm
"Pull the other one!"

I am!...and this is my assistant Patsy. :D

GregB
23-10-2001, 10:19
Thanks for that Michael.

Been meaning to order this for a while but hadn't got round to it. ********* will be receiving my request very shortly :)

PaulBoy
23-10-2001, 10:23
Yes - I agree a brilliant package - You might not have mentioned the Public Information Film "How to Use Coconuts" which is very good ...
Highlights for me were the picture & sound of course ...

Arch Stanton
23-10-2001, 10:27
I skimed through the disc last night and it is indeed a very well thought out and very amusing collection.


But hands up who thought the wrong film had been pressed onto the disc when a very young Bob Monkhouse appered when you start the film.

Michael Brooke
23-10-2001, 10:33
I also forgot to mention the animated menus, which are terrific - I don't know whether Gilliam worked on them, but they beautifully capture his style.

Uridium
23-10-2001, 10:33
Aaaargh!!! Sounds superb and mine hasn't arrived yet!! :mad:

Why is it always the titles you look forward to most that have problems getting to you?? Last week Star Wars and now this!!

Arch Stanton
23-10-2001, 10:36
The menu's were made from Gilliam's original Holy Grail artwork.

Or so it says in the booklet. :)

Woz
23-10-2001, 11:04
Am I correct in thinking that it's non-anamorphic?
Sad if it is as I would have broken my monthly DVD fast for this!

JoePrecious
23-10-2001, 11:14
Excuse my ignorance, is this a Region 1 release. Can someone point in the direction of the best place to purchase.

soberion
23-10-2001, 11:22
Acording to the bumph, it is anamorphic and R1.

Ordered mine form ********* for £17.99

Michael Brooke
23-10-2001, 11:25
<B>Am I correct in thinking that it's non-anamorphic? </B>

You are spectacularly incorrect - not only is the main feature anamorphic but quite a few of the extras are too!

Woz
23-10-2001, 11:26
Joy! Thank you :D

The newsgroups all seem to be complaining that it's non-a, and Amazon list it as letterbox.

theblairwitch
23-10-2001, 11:28
Damn those newgroups !

TOP disc(s) :D

01keith
23-10-2001, 11:35
What an excellent package this DVD is, excellent quality and fantasic features, hope they do this spectular package again for Life Of Brian.

"What Is The Air Velocity Of A Laden Swollow?"

:D

theblairwitch
23-10-2001, 11:36
With or without coconut ?

silverpenguin7
23-10-2001, 11:39
Damn it, come on payday COME ON!! :( :)

01keith
23-10-2001, 11:39
With a coconut!:D

Michael Brooke
23-10-2001, 11:40
<B>The newsgroups all seem to be complaining that it's non-a,</B>

I'll double-check when I get home tonight, though I was certainly under the impression it was anamorphic. The 45-minute featurette definitely is, as are quite a few of the other extras, so I'd be surprised if this wasn't true of the main feature (especially as it's on Columbia, who are normally conscientious).

Michael Brooke
23-10-2001, 11:46
Well, I've checked both the current reviews of the new edition, and they both say it's anamorphic - are you sure the newsgroups weren't complaining about the previous bare-bones non-anamorphic version?

Adge
23-10-2001, 11:47
Great disc, with an abundance of cleverly stylised features.

I spent a while last night looking through the disc, very pleased with it, best Region 1 I’ve purchased this year.

Woz
23-10-2001, 11:50
Originally posted by Michael Brooke
<B>The newsgroups all seem to be complaining that it's non-a,</B>

I'll double-check when I get home tonight, though I was certainly under the impression it was anamorphic. The 45-minute featurette definitely is, as are quite a few of the other extras, so I'd be surprised if this wasn't true of the main feature (especially as it's on Columbia, who are normally conscientious).

Arg - I've just had another look - and I suspect I was looking at complaints from a few years ago about the old edition! I've found several references to it being anamorphic now. (you beat me to it MB! Note to self - pay no attention to Amazon specs, pay no attention to Amazon specs!)
Doh!:rolleyes:
Time to get the credit card out I guess.
Thanks!

Werdna007
23-10-2001, 12:42
OK, I am convinced. I will be ordering it straight away.

The only other problem is, do I also order the Criterion edition of Life of Brian as well or is there a special edition of that coming out too?

mikegray
23-10-2001, 12:44
Just to totally agree with Michael's comments - an excellent feature-packed set - most of which is entirely worth exploring, although I did get a bit sick of the "Knights Of The Round Table" song by the end!

Grover
23-10-2001, 12:50
Originally posted by Andrew Holland
OK, I am convinced. I will be ordering it straight away. The only other problem is, do I order the Criterion edition of Life Of Brian or is there a special edition of that coming out too?

No new edition planned as far as I know and I would definitely recommend the Criterion Life Of Brian. The only area of criticism seems to concern the picture quality, but whether it can be bettered is open to debate. A list of reviews of the disc can be found here (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11852). I bought my copy from ********* a few weeks ago, but it seems to be increasingly hard to get hold of.

Jorin
23-10-2001, 12:52
How could one tire of a song that goes to the trouble of rhyming Camelot with pram-a-lot?

Priceless.

William Shatners Wig
23-10-2001, 13:30
Some of the guys over at DVD Talk's forum are having problems with Holy Grail on their Toshibas. I've got a Tosh. SD2109 and would like my mind put at rest please - have any of you who have got their Holy Grail disc tried it on a Tosh?

The problem that they are reporting is that the subtitles keep turning themselves on whenever the Follow the Rabbit feature should appear. They appear whether or not this feature is disabled.

By the way, I'm still waiting for mine from *********. Where did you all order yours from?

feverpitch96
23-10-2001, 13:33
Originally posted by Grover


No new edition planned as far as I know and I would definitely recommend the Criterion Life Of Brian. The only area of criticism seems to concern the picture quality, but whether it can be bettered is open to debate. A list of reviews of the disc can be found here (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11852). I bought my copy from ********* a few weeks ago, but it seems to be increasingly hard to get hold of.

:confused:

Last time I looked, quite recently, CDNow and Amazon both had it....

JamesW
23-10-2001, 13:40
Originally posted by William Shatners Wig
Some of the guys over at DVD Talk's forum are having problems with Holy Grail on their Toshibas. I've got a Tosh. SD2109 and would like my mind put at rest please - have any of you who have got their Holy Grail disc tried it on a Tosh?

The problem that they are reporting is that the subtitles keep turning themselves on whenever the Follow the Rabbit feature should appear. They appear whether or not this feature is disabled.

By the way, I'm still waiting for mine from *********. Where did you all order yours from?

Yeah, this problem kept appearing on my Toshiba 2109 :(

I got mine from the fine people at DV-Depot (http://www.dv-depot.com).

feverpitch96
23-10-2001, 13:52
Originally posted by JamesW


Yeah, this problem kept appearing on my Toshiba 2109 :(

While we're sort of on the same subject...this kind of thing always happens with my R2 disc of Dr Who - Robots Of Death. The commentary track turns itself on all the time, no matter what settings one has in the menus. Using various Pioneer models.

Anyone else?
:confused:

mjb1975
23-10-2001, 13:53
hmm, FWIW, I've got a Tosh SD100E and get that subs problem.....

AndrewN
23-10-2001, 14:07
I got mine from play, arrived Yesterday, and is superb. I had to switch off the 'subtitles for those who didn't like the film' becuse I was laghuing too hard.

I noticed that every now and again the subtitles would appear for one set of lines on my Sony 725. Weird.

I would still endorse the above recomendadtions, even the cover is funny, although I don't think I am going to get chance to watch all the extras for a while, not with all the other discs I have had receintly.

J M
23-10-2001, 14:19
Yeah, I have the same thing on my Sony 725. A single line of subtitles appears every few minutes. Pretty annoying, maybe I'd be better off just switching on the white rabbit feature as it'd probably be less intrusive.

Top disc and film though.

I thought we were an autonomous collective....

GregB
23-10-2001, 14:31
Originally posted by J M
[B

I thought we were an autonomous collective.... [/B]

You're fooling yourself

cardinal biggles
23-10-2001, 14:57
ROFL @ this thread :D

Im so glad to read this. THe disc will be waiting for me when i get home.

"You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest...wiiiiiiiiiiiith A HERRING!"

powlest
23-10-2001, 15:08
I better go and buy that then,
Cheers Michael.

Deaks
23-10-2001, 15:19
This sounds really good! Had some money burning a hole in my pocket the other day so I should get this from Play over the next couple of days.

"Bring out.... the holy hand grenade".

Deaks.

powlest
23-10-2001, 15:24
By the way this works out at about £15 delivered here. (http://www.absound.ca/music/dvd/ms-2.cgi?upc=043396052765&history=hitLow%3D0%26searchMedium%3DDVD%26searchby%3Ddvd%26searchtype%3Dcontains%26searchfor%3Dholy%2Bgrail%26&price=27.79)

niz
23-10-2001, 15:33
you can get it even cheaper from dvdimport, and from total action universe using their free shipping offer.

Cap'n Al
23-10-2001, 16:09
Yet another winner from Columbia, and possibly the most enjoyable comedy DVD I've yet seen; my review will be up as soon as I've listened to Gilliam and Jones' commentary (which should be very funny indeed, if the first few minutes are anything to go by)

dangermouse
23-10-2001, 17:04
Originally posted by 01keith
What an excellent package this DVD is, excellent quality and fantasic features, hope they do this spectular package again for Life Of Brian.

:D

The only other problem is, do I also order the Criterion edition of Life of Brian as well or is there a special edition of that coming out too?

It is highly unlikely that any future release will better the Criterion edition of Life of Brian. All the deleted scenes are included and the 2 exclusive commentaries that were recorded for the Criterion release are also unlikely to be licenced out to anyone else.

William Shatners Wig
23-10-2001, 18:35
Originally posted by dangermouse


and the 2 exclusive commentaries that were recorded for the Criterion release are also unlikely to be licenced out to anyone else.


saying that, the first commentary on the Holy Grail DVD (the one with the two Terry's) is taken straight from the previous Crterion Laserdisc.

AndyWilson
23-10-2001, 20:00
Was it this or Life of Brian that orginally showed at cinemas preceded by the [i]Venice Travelogue[/]? (I was very young when I was both of them - honest!)

..and of course, if it was this - is it on the disc?

Retronana
23-10-2001, 21:47
"I was surprised not to see much discussion of this here, so I thought I'd kick off a thread, as I've just ploughed through about half of it.

In a word: phenomenal. This is one of the best DVD packages I've ever seen, not only boasting a superb transfer but a shedload of extras that are not only fascinating to watch but which, like the French In the Mood for Love, actually show genuine creative imagination behind them - they're so far ahead of the usual bog-standard featurette/trailer/notes/biographies package that there's no comparison.

The first disc comes with a huge number of soundtrack and subtitle options, and for once it's worth exploring most of them. The soundtrack has been remixed to Dolby Digital 5.1, though brownie points are scored for including the original mono track as well, there are two commentaries by various Pythons (neither of which I've listened to yet) and a French dub, which might get more of a workout than these things usually do, for reasons which I'll come to.

Things start getting creative with the subtitles - you have the choice of normal hard-of-hearing ones, the screenplay presented in parallel (I haven't explored this one yet) and, weirdest of all, a whole new set of far more literary subtitles adapted from Shakespeare's Henry IV Part II and included "for people who don't like the film". I initially assumed that this would merely be the text of the play unsynchronised to the film dialogue, but in fact the subtitles make use of lines that do at least partially resemble the spoken text, though I preferred to watch the soundtrack in French where these were on, as it's somewhat jarring having to deal with totally different English dialogue simultaneously!

There's also a "follow the killer rabbit" feature, which offers insights into the mind of Terry Gilliam (via sketches and storyboards) and the film's production accountant (where you're informed how much certain props and special effects cost) if you click on the white rabbit every time it appears - if it has a green pound sign printed on it, you get the accountant's contribution.

Disc two is where the rest of the extras lurk - and, again, quantity and quality are uppermost. The high point is an immensely engaging 45-minute piece by Terry Jones and Michael Palin in which they wander round the film's locations (I was strangely unsurprised to discover that the same castle stood in for 95% of them!) and reminisce about shooting the film 26 years on, but there's also a 20-minute BBC location report from 1974, loads of stills, sketches and notes, cast biographies, trailers (including the legendary original Japanese subtitled one), something purporting to be a location scouting documentary with commentary from Terry Jones and Terry Gilliam that makes use of stock footage from all over the world, subtitled karaoke versions of the Camelot and Sir Robin songs, and instructions in how to use your DVD box to beat your forehead along with the chanting monks.

Best of all, there are two excerpts from the legendary Japanese version, complete with subtitles. Much, much funnier than a simple case of dubbing it into Japanese and presenting the original English dialogue, the subtitles look as though they were translated by someone totally unfamiliar with the original, hence references to "the holy sake cup" and the terror the Knights who say Ni! evoke via the word "bonsai".

And finally, there's the already legendary Lego version - which consists of the Camelot song staged using stop-motion Lego figures, and there's not a lot more I can add to that: it's exactly what it sounds like!

This is a very cursory overview from memory, so I've probably left a few things out - feel free to mention any more"

Michael its good to see you can recomend a film/DVD that us poor mortals will enjoy ;)

I came a bit late on Monty Python, after watching a double bill at my local flicks(Airplane/Life of Brian)....I was hooked

I've orderd this Holy Grail Special Edition......I begining to think this could be my best move all year !

Mike
23-10-2001, 22:40
Andy:

Sadly not. I remember this being as funny as the main film. It's called "Away From It All".

"Why not enjoy a moonlight stroll in Central Park ? Because you'd be stabbed, raped or murdered, that's why not".

and of course, the immortal:

"More @@@@@@@ gondolas".

McMikey
23-10-2001, 22:43
mine arrived this morning. What I've seen of it is great. The BBC film show is really funny as is the little unused locations thing with a commentary by the 2 Terrys, and the cocunuts thing, its all so good. The first time I've ever seen the trailer aswell which wasn't what I was expecting tho I didn't know what to expect. This is the best dvd I've got this year, even better than the simpsons. The packaging is quite nice aswell

J M
23-10-2001, 23:27
Eek - I got a problem!!

When the disc gets to the layer change (end of chapter 17 / start of chapter 18) my player just locks up. :( If I try to skip through to any chapters after this it locks up too. All I can do is go back to the menu, I can't skip forward or back.

It's a Sony 725 and I've never had a problem with any other discs. Anybody else had any difficulties with this disc?

DrX
24-10-2001, 00:11
Never seen the flick before, is it worth getting?

A bonus is that I am doing an English course that deals with Le Morte Darthur and one of the essay questions allows for comparison of the text with a film. There are a couple of King Arthur-based films out there but would it be feasible to do one with this?

Narshty
24-10-2001, 00:27
Originally posted by DrX
Never seen the flick before, is it worth getting?

A bonus is that I am doing an English course that deals with Le Morte Darthur and one of the essay questions allows for comparison of the text with a film. There are a couple of King Arthur-based films out there but would it be feasible to do one with this?

Erm...not really. ;)

However, if you want to see one of the most screamingly funny films of all time in a stunning package, then click on that Order button.

r.griffiths
24-10-2001, 07:34
Can anyone confirm if this title has RCE or not.


Cheers

feverpitch96
24-10-2001, 08:29
Originally posted by J M
Eek - I got a problem!!

When the disc gets to the layer change (end of chapter 17 / start of chapter 18) my player just locks up. :( If I try to skip through to any chapters after this it locks up too. All I can do is go back to the menu, I can't skip forward or back.

It's a Sony 725 and I've never had a problem with any other discs. Anybody else had any difficulties with this disc?

J M, I've got one on the way which should be here Monday or Tuesday of next week, so I'll let you know if it spits the dummy on a Pioneer.

I'm a tad worried now. That's THREE Sony 725 owners who've had problems, and they're not exactly faint-hearted machines from what I read...
:(

DrX
24-10-2001, 10:34
Originally posted by Narshty


Erm...not really. ;)

However, if you want to see one of the most screamingly funny films of all time in a stunning package, then click on that Order button.


Does that mean I'm going to have to buy that bloody Excalibur film?

Darn it!

Oh well, ordered regardless.......

:)

AndrewN
24-10-2001, 10:59
Originally posted by J M
Eek - I got a problem!!

When the disc gets to the layer change (end of chapter 17 / start of chapter 18) my player just locks up. :( If I try to skip through to any chapters after this it locks up too. All I can do is go back to the menu, I can't skip forward or back.

It's a Sony 725 and I've never had a problem with any other discs. Anybody else had any difficulties with this disc?

I've had no probems paying the disc on my 725, its just the intermittent subtitle problem. This appears to happen even without the 'follow the killer rabbit' switched on.

J M
24-10-2001, 11:56
I get the subtitle problem as well, but I can cope with that as long as the disc plays OK! I'll try it again tonight, hopefully it was just a temporary glitch. Hope so anyway.

Narshty
24-10-2001, 11:58
I've heard reports that the first Swedish subtitle is missing from the film's opening credits (Monti Python ik den Holie Grailen, or something).

Is this true? (Purely out of interest, as if I'd scream boycott/re-press, like some fanatic Americans are already doing!)

Michael Brooke
24-10-2001, 12:15
I haven't checked for myself, but I'd be <U>very</U> surprised, as these subtitles would have been burned into the original print.

bumfrog
24-10-2001, 13:00
if you use freeze frame on the subtitles, they don't seem to bear any resemblance to the film. Took a while to do it, but got there in the the end. I think the first one appears when terry jones is inspecting the witch near the start of the film and the subtitle says something like "he gave it to her fast and hard!" or something like that......


dem pythons.

I'm surprised nobody has gone on about the menus. WOW. You have to leave some of them running for a while tho.....

Matt.Wild
24-10-2001, 13:24
I've read in a couple of dvd mags (DVD Review and one other, Total DVD i think) that Life of Brian:SE R2 is due 24/12/01...with the same extras as the Criterion edition. Not sure who the distributor is mind.

So there you go... just need a decent version of Meaning of Life and Now for Something Completely Different and we, the DVD buying public will have the full monty! :)

cluderi
24-10-2001, 14:00
What can I say about this disc ????

Plenty.

The picture is amazing .. clear and a pleasure to look at. The sound is great (considering the age of the film).

The menu's are in full DD5.1 and look / sound superb. And the extra's !!!!

Has anyone checked out the Scenes in Japanese (with literal english subtitles). English translated into Jap translated back into english is soooo funny !!

How to use your coconuts is great ?

I havn't had chance to check out the "subtitles for people who don't like the film" but they sound hilarious !

And for people who havn't bought it yet spoiler below



When Dentist on the job started I was very confused, then the rears kicked in with "bloody 'ell, its the wrong reel".



Very funny and a real showcase title.

Buy it now !!!!!!

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a goverment !!! :D :D

Martin Veenman
24-10-2001, 20:14
Originally posted by Matt.Wild
I've read in a couple of dvd mags (DVD Review and one other, Total DVD i think) that Life of Brian:SE R2 is due 24/12/01...with the same extras as the Criterion edition. Not sure who the distributor is mind.

Life of Brian R2 is indeed due on 24 December, but it is released by Paramount, so it is doubtful that we get all the Criterion extras.

Cap'n Al
24-10-2001, 22:24
My review is now up. It's only the 3rd film I've reviewed to get 10/10 overall...

Tristan H
24-10-2001, 22:30
Interesting comments. I've never really been a Monty Python fan, but this disc does sound like it could be top notch. Unfortunately I have a Toshiba so I'm not too sure whether to go for this yet....:confused:

cardinal biggles
25-10-2001, 12:08
Dammit. Ordered mine from Play last Friday, and still havent recieved it.

Possibly the best DVD for the year, and i still aint got it :(

niz
25-10-2001, 12:22
DON'T BUY THIS DISK ITS FAULTY.

Michael Brooke
25-10-2001, 12:33
If you're going to shout, you might at least give reasons!

Especially as most people seem absolutely delighted with their DVDs - so what's your problem with it?

stigdu
25-10-2001, 13:03
My player won't play RCE titles - will this present me with a problem with the new Holy Grail disc, as it sounds fantastic? If so, then is a R2 version planned anytime soon please?

Deaks
25-10-2001, 13:40
:D :D :D Oh my God! :D :D :D

I've just skimmed the extras at lunchtime and they're a scream!

Watched the original trailer, the Japanese and Lego bits and the Coconuts educational film!

Deaks.

mjb1975
25-10-2001, 15:23
Originally posted by stigdu
My player won't play RCE titles - will this present me with a problem with the new Holy Grail disc, as it sounds fantastic? If so, then is a R2 version planned anytime soon please?

it's not RCE as my Tosh player doesn't like RCE titles and this plays no problem....

niz
25-10-2001, 17:04
it may play, but it doesn't play "no problems"... watch the film and you'll see subtitles popping up all over the place even though subtitles are switched off.

Mike
25-10-2001, 19:18
In some ways, there is a hell of a lot more Malory in "Holy Grail" than in "First Knight". The obvious film to go for is "Excalibur" - you could mention Tennyson then too...

William Shatners Wig
26-10-2001, 00:19
Originally posted by Michael Brooke
If you're going to shout, you might at least give reasons!

Especially as most people seem absolutely delighted with their DVDs - so what's your problem with it?

Michael, the following players have been reported to spontaneously display subtitles throughout the movie for no apparent reason.

<b>Mitsubishi </b>
DD6000

<b>Sony </b>
S300
S530D
S550
S560
S650
DVP-CX860
DAV-S300
DVP-NC600/B
DVP-S660

<b>Toshiba </b>
SD-1600
SD-200E
SD-2107
SD-2109
SD-2200
SD-3109
SD-5109
SD-9000
SD-P1000

feverpitch96
26-10-2001, 02:34
Originally posted by William Shatners Wig


Michael, the following players have been reported to spontaneously display subtitles throughout the movie for no apparent reason.

<b>Mitsubishi </b>
DD6000

<b>Sony </b>
S300
S530D
S550
S560
S650
DVP-CX860
DAV-S300
DVP-NC600/B
DVP-S660

<b>Toshiba </b>
SD-1600
SD-200E
SD-2107
SD-2109
SD-2200
SD-3109
SD-5109
SD-9000
SD-P1000

Gee that's a big list. A worry! Do you think they'll issue a recall if these glitches have all been officially reported?

No Pioneers on the list yet (phew?), but for such a high-profile release that list is far too big.

:(

Bapapapa
26-10-2001, 02:50
FWIW - Aren't most of those players listed, US models?

So maybe not such a great worry for us here Europeans with m/r players. :p

Philc
26-10-2001, 05:08
Is this DVD available in Japan? If so are the features the same??

J M
26-10-2001, 10:58
You can add my Sony 725 to the list!

Also, I reported earlier in the thread that my disc seems to jam up at the start of chapter 18. Well, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't! Usually if I open and then close the disc tray it seems to work again. Could this maybe a be a speck of dirt on the disc or do you reckon it's a fault?


You wafer thin slices of other people's bottoms!

richie99
26-10-2001, 11:10
Great disc, great film.
No problems on my Hitachi, no subtitles popping up or player locking. Didn't even notice a layer change...
The Japanese version is hilarious ! ...Escape !:D

niz
26-10-2001, 11:27
does the bug appear on a Samsung 709?

Matt.Wild
26-10-2001, 13:36
I bet the disc would work if held by two swallows using a vine held in their beaks :)


Nope that didn't work, and wasn't funny but hey :)

GregB
26-10-2001, 13:42
Originally posted by Matt.Wild
I bet the disc would work if held by two swallows using a vine held in their beaks :)


Nope that didn't work, and wasn't funny but hey :)

Worked fine for me. Were you using African or European swallow's?

Byron
26-10-2001, 18:14
Originally posted by niz
does the bug appear on a Samsung 709?

Nope, fine here.:)

"A shrubbery!"

robbiejm
26-10-2001, 19:17
'look, if we built this large wooden badger....'

rcmusic
26-10-2001, 19:53
[QUOTE]Originally posted by William Shatners Wig
[B]Some of the guys over at DVD Talk's forum are having problems with Holy Grail on their Toshibas. I've got a Tosh. SD2109 and would like my mind put at rest please - have any of you who have got their Holy Grail disc tried it on a Tosh?

The problem that they are reporting is that the subtitles keep turning themselves on whenever the Follow the Rabbit feature should appear. They appear whether or not this feature is disabled.

I Am having the same problem with my fairly ancient Toshiba 3107 player. It also occurs on The Avengers UK Boxset (This also has a follow the. . . feature). Has anyone found a way round this??

lycanthrope on the loose
26-10-2001, 20:20
sorta got here a bit late :rolleyes:

absound are outta stock and the TAU free shipping has come and gone

so cheapest/reliable place pleese :)

aC

Jodrell
27-10-2001, 12:18
Originally posted by Narshty
I've heard reports that the first Swedish subtitle is missing from the film's opening credits (Monti Python ik den Holie Grailen, or something).

Is this true? (Purely out of interest, as if I'd scream boycott/re-press, like some fanatic Americans are already doing!)

People on the HTF have confirmed that the first Swedish subtitle is missing. :(

Coupled with the other subtitle problem, what are the chances that CTHV will reissue the disc?

Hex
27-10-2001, 13:39
Ah sod it. I've ordered a copy even though I have a Tosh 100E - the subtitle problem, if it does appear, would be a minor inconvenience and no reason not to get what sounds like a great release.

Jodrell
27-10-2001, 13:56
Originally posted by Hex
Ah sod it. I've ordered a copy even though I have a Tosh 100E - the subtitle problem, if it does appear, would be a minor inconvenience and no reason not to get what sounds like a great release.

R U bothered by the missing subs at the start though? :(

Jodrell
27-10-2001, 14:11
Originally posted by Hex
Ah sod it. I've ordered a copy even though I have a Tosh 100E - the subtitle problem, if it does appear, would be a minor inconvenience and no reason not to get what sounds like a great release.

R U bothered by the missing subs at the start though? :(

Narshty
27-10-2001, 16:47
Don't you mean 'missing sub'?

Anyone forgoing this set because of one missing subtitle during the opening credits needs their head checking!

Martin Veenman
27-10-2001, 16:56
Finally received my copy.
Ratio doesn't seem to be 1.85:1 to me, it looks a bit narrower.
Disc two didn't load straight away, had to fiddle about a bit.
Some of the extras have a very noticable line structure.
But otherwise a perfect release.

silverpenguin7
27-10-2001, 18:27
Originally posted by J M
You can add my Sony 725 to the list!
You can add my Sony S360 (US model) to that list as well!! :mad:

William Shatners Wig
27-10-2001, 19:56
Originally posted by Hex
Ah sod it. I've ordered a copy even though I have a Tosh 100E - the subtitle problem, if it does appear, would be a minor inconvenience and no reason not to get what sounds like a great release.

I'd say having to hit the subtitle button every 5-10mins quite a major inconvenience.

The missing title at the beginnig, to me, is pretty minor though.

Hex
27-10-2001, 20:56
Originally posted by Jodrell


R U bothered by the missing subs at the start though? :(

Not really, although it might be a sign of a deeper problem with the disc I suppose, but problems with missing subs wouldn't bother me much at all.

I'd say having to hit the subtitle button every 5-10mins quite a major inconvenience.

that often? I was under the impression that it was every time the follow the rabbit feature should appear, which I would have thought wouldn't be that often.
whatever happens - I assume that if the disc is recalled and repressed we would get a free replacement copy (perhaps for the cost of postage) and if not I'll still have the disc when I upgrade to a non RCE/subtitle problem player in a couple of months time :D (that's the plan anyway)