TPM DVD different cut to Theatres??

[JamesK]

Loads of people (including myself) appear to have noticed a difference between the DVD version of The Phantom Menace and the theatrical cut of the film.

Is there a difference or are we all imagining it??

Does anyone know what all the extra/cut shots were??

[Richard2001]

Difference are well documented on the DVD

[LooneyJetman]

There are a couple of changes...

The podrace has the second lap extended, also the buildup to the start of the race is extended.

The second main addition is the air taxi ride.

Personally I thought that the 'Farewell to Jira' scene was the one most in need of being reintegrated into the film. It bridges a very unnatural gap in the narrative. (although they could have left Jira out of it...not too inspired by her acting - no offense, someone on here is probably related to her).

And whilst I'm on the subject - they could've restored the scene where the sub goes over the waterfall, changed it so that Jar-Jar didn't make it off and then erased him from the rest of the film... :D

[APPRIA40WR]

Good gawd why on earth does that Lucas insist on poking about with his films.

[That's rhetorical BTW]

[Letsgetdigital]

Damn rhetoric. It's his film he can do what he likes with it :)

[rezabelady]

Originally posted by andrew_lee
The podrace has the second lap extended, also the buildup to the start of the race is extended.

they shoulda stuck the whole lot from the deleted scenes for the podrace back in - or not included any of the extra footage and just had 'the complete podrace' as one of the extras

IMO

[Letsgetdigital]

Or an extended branching version like T2 with everything put back in...

[Ben Martin]

Originally posted by jamesking420
Loads of people (including myself) appear to have noticed a difference between the DVD version of The Phantom Menace and the theatrical cut of the film.

:eek: :D sorry, no offence mate but that is hilarious! have you, and others, also noticed that there are loads of threads (many duplicates) in various parts of the forum covering all aspects of this disc, but most commonly the deleted/extra scenes?! here's a few .... Episode 1 extra footage (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24071), episode 1 ......... (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22805) and Star Wars - Trilogy (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25503). time to "discover" the search function i think.

Does anyone know what all the extra/cut shots were??

if you've noticed the differences then you must have the dvd. if you have the dvd then you have the opportunity to view the extras on disc 2. if you view the extras on disc 2 you will find a comprehensive list of all the deleted scenes (from which all the 'extra bits' in the new cut of the movie are culled), along with a talking heads documentary to lead you through them all.

[Jimmyboy]

Its fairly obvious & clearly promoted that the DVD cut is longer that the cinema release.
The main extra scenes include an extened pod race, more shots of sand people, and a taxi scene.
All incredibly noticable might I add.;)

[LooneyJetman]

The next release will see all of the deleted scenes reintegrated into the film and have additional deleted scenes including the one where Obi-Wan is reprimanded by Qui-Gon for getting his lightsaber wet ;) and the one where R2D2 falls off of the building roof on Coruscant.

The release after that will have those additional scenes integrated too along with Jar-Jar replaced by a wookie.

The following year will see the 'special edition' released to cinemas with the original theatrical version issued on DVD.

Finally, the fully-extended version will be released a year later.

Then it starts all over again on HD-DVD :D

[Madm@tt]

LOL, but you're absolutely right...:(

[Ben Martin]

Originally posted by andrew_lee
Personally I thought that the 'Farewell to Jira' scene was the one most in need of being reintegrated into the film. It bridges a very unnatural gap in the narrative. (although they could have left Jira out of it...not too inspired by her acting - no offense, someone on here is probably related to her).

i agree entirely, also with the strong proviso that it is only the second half of that scene that needs to be reinserted. don't hold back about that old bird who plays jira .... her delivery is appalling (admittedly stifled by the dialogue skills of mr lucas, but that's still no excuse). i also hate the way that when anakin tells her he has been freed she says something to the effect of "that's nice", hardly seems too chuffed and then forgets all about it! it's amazing she survived being cut completely. the film would benefit from the 2nd half of the scene as we see them encounter the probe droid and find out why they are running in the subsequent scene.

i would also keep the very last shot of the 'waterfall scene' as they walk up the steps towards the palace. looks great imho, and could replace jar jar babbling "luvverly" in the sub when they arrive in theed. this would be even better still if it was added to a 'new cut' like The Phantom Edit, which removes the underwater sequence before it completely.

[Jimmyboy]

Mom, you say the biggest problem in this universe is nobody helps each other
Anakin Skywalker

[Jimmyboy]

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[Chief Brody]

Don't flame the guy who started this thread, at least we can still talk about what we like. Over at Dvdtalk, they've actually BANNED any more threads about TPM (and the Godfather as well for that matter). Well done the mods for being more liberal. :)

[mythuk]

i agree some people on thos forum can just be plain rude, there's no need for it.

and a branching version of TPM would have been far better IMO:D

[Ben Martin]

Originally posted by Chief Brody
Don't flame the guy who started this thread, at least we can still talk about what we like. Over at Dvdtalk, they've actually BANNED any more threads about TPM (and the Godfather as well for that matter). Well done the mods for being more liberal. :)

i always apologise in these sorts of situations on this forum but ---- it, i'm too soft and there are absolutely no grounds for doing so this time. instead .... call it "flaming" the guy if you like but that is a blatant, perhaps wilful, misinterpretation. the post that began this thread was totally unnecessary as the 'question' being asked had been answered not once but several times in several different threads. the guy has almost 400 posts to his name so surely he how the forums work and how, for eveyone's benefit, we try to avoid duplicate threads wherever possible? furthermore, his question was answered on the very dvd he must have owned in order to be asking the question in the first place. the problem here (as on many other threads) is wilful ignorance.

that said, i made a point of stating "no offence mate" to make it clear that i was only pointing out a few facts that somehow he clearly wasn't aware of. after all, i'm no mod, and i wasn't trying to be. as for the DVDTalk thing i totally agree with you and the admins/mods here are indeed to be credited for their patience at times.

Originally posted by mythuk
i agree some people on thos forum can just be plain rude, there's no need for it.

as just explained above, i don't think i was the least bit rude. i do however think it "plain rude" showing such wilful ignorance in clogging up the forum with the umpteenth incarnation of a duplicate thread. especially when, even if the guy has legitimately not noticed the other threads, he's too lazy to spend just a few seconds with the search function - which would have revealed that he didn't need to start a new thread.

and a branching version of TPM would have been far better IMO:D

i totally agree with you mate.

[DeadKenny]

Originally posted by rezabelady


they shoulda stuck the whole lot from the deleted scenes for the podrace back in - or not included any of the extra footage and just had 'the complete podrace' as one of the extras

IMO

Personally I think the entire podrace should have been removed. Sure it looks great, but it serves no purpose in the film other than wasting time.

[JamesK]

Ben (der) - I read a lot of threads on the forums - a lot about the Phantom menace (I actually really like this film) but didn't spot any SPECIFIC details of EXACTLY which scenes were integrated (I know roughly where they were buyt the exact ones (especially in for instance the podrace scene where there was a load of little bits of Anakin ovetaking other racers etc). I also watched some of the deleted scenes and documetaries that go with them (though not ALL of them I don't have unlimited time) such as the waterfall scene and the air taxi scene. I knew that the waterfall scene hadn't been inserted - thats obvious but some of them are a little more subtle and when watching the film with about 6 or 7 friends each saying 'I remember that bit', 'I don't remember this bit', its hard to decide for myself exactly which bits WERE in the theatrical cut and which weren't (I can't remember EXACTLY its been almost 2 years), and watching the documentaries we then watched it still didn't make it entirely clear whether they were reintegrated (there was a lot of chatter - Perhaps it would of been better if I'd watched it alone but I enjoy the company of others). (breath) So, basically I thought the nice, friendly chaps in the forums probably wouldn't mind helping me out with this short, easy question (especially if its already been answered before and I'd just missed it - whats wrong with a link or a bit of cut and paste). To summarise: Since I've joined these forums I've enjoyed spending time here and helping people out with their questions(even if they have been asked before) and it would be nice if others did the same - this is a nice, friendly, fun online community and it doesn't need ********* like you flaming others for doing something which is, really the essence of the forums.

Anyway :rolleyes:, thanks to all those people who did help with my question;

thanks

[Ben Martin]

james (i ain't playing this pathetic, immature little game),

thank you for, at the very least, proving that i didn't flame you - because if your post above wasn't a "flame" - and thus in contravention of the T&Cs you have agreed to - then i don't know what is.

second, what a shame you decided to respond like that. :( as explained above i wasn't having a pop at you, just at the blatantly unnecessary nature of your original post. as i said a second time, you've been here for a while - and as well as i can remember you are indeed exactly the sort of person who makes these forums a helpful and informative place to be. hence, starting this thread being most unlike you (and the unprovoked abuse very unlike you, as far as i know anyway).

read my first post - it starts with three specific elements to set the correct mood: a :D, the word "sorry" and the statement "no offence". i then neither swear at you nor launch any personal attacks. i also refer to "you, and others", again showing a fatigue at a general trend rather than trying to mix it up specifically with you.

I read a lot of threads on the forums - a lot about the Phantom menace (I actually really like this film)

so do i, and .... so do i! so we're in the same boat there for starters. and all that copy above about watching the film and not being totally clear on all the scenes - fine, that's totally understandable and i now see how you could have missed certain things being explained. however, the issue was when you came to the forums to find out, the answers were already there and very apparent and easy to find.

To summarise: Since I've joined these forums I've enjoyed spending time here and helping people out with their questions(even if they have been asked before) and it would be nice if others did the same

as well you know, others indeed do the same, and as you probably know (but are conveniently overlooking in a weak attempt to smear me) i do the same myself. in fact, chances are i've helped you out on a thread before. most telling though, if you look on those threads i linked to above (and you said "what's wrong with a link?"!) you'll find me "helping out" and contributing in a friendly, fun manner. and i'm sure those who are aware of my posts around here would back me up in saying that i am always helpful and friendly (perhaps unless attacked).

this is a nice, friendly, fun online community and it doesn't need ********* like you flaming others for doing something which is, really the essence of the forums.

james, i fear by that statement you are only making a case for why the forums might not need you. i don't think the forums "needs" me but i think on the whole it and the individuals that make it up benefit from my posting once in a while. indeed, if i was some nutcase going around flaming people all the time then i'd agree with you. sadly for your diatribe, this is not the case and those who've been around here at least a few months (yourself included) know this to be true.

come on, prove to everyone you're above this sort of thing. i'll even try and make a gesture to support what i've said above in order to help out ....
if you misunderstood the meaning of my initial post above and mistakenly took it as a personal attack then i apologise, despite not thinking it necessary, for any offence caused only because that absolutely was not its intention. how does that sound?

[ColinP]

Seeing as the original post has been answered and this appears to be rapidly spiralling into yet another big flame thread, I think it's time it was closed...

Complaints to the usual address ;)