Which "The Fall" album to get ?

[RasTa]

Allo, just wondering what the name of this song is, it was on a mars volta top 10 innovators yoke the other night and it was some dude singing along and the lyrics were something like "check the record check the record check the guys track record, Check the record, check the guys track record"
Anyone know ???
Cheers

[Dave 3:16]

Google

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22check+the+guy%27s+track+record%22

[RasTa]

Ah cheers dude, know i was wondering if there is any fans of The fall on here and could recommend me an album to get ?

[KRW]

New one is reviewerd here:

http://www.cdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=309

[Whiting]

You'll probably want to pick up '458489 A Sides' if it's still available ; all the singles from 1984-1989 including "Big New Prinz", the song from which the lyrics you quoted.

[Lorne.t]

I dont know the title,but the cd that collects the rough trade singles from the late 70's would be the one I'd buy.

[jmdomain]

The new Fall album 'The Real New Fall LP Formerly Country On The Click' would be an excellent album to start with.

One of my albums of the year, last year. It's chock full of super tunes. Then once you've had your fill with that album, work back through the majority of their other earlier output.

[Adge]

A friend of mines site here reviews them all for your pleasure...

http://www.adriandenning.co.uk/thefall.html

I'd go for palace of swords to start, but you can't go too far wrong...

Stunning band, really worth getting into...

[basegreen]

I've just discovered them via Country on the Click too... and yeah, im quite looking forward to going thru their older stuff.... this thread saved me having to create one :)

[Arch Stanton]

Over the last couple of years there's been looadddsss of 'best of's' out covering the Cog sinister years...

[goodfella66]

I preferred The Fall in their Brix era. So I would have to say "The Wonderful & Frightening World Of" & "This Nation's Saving Grace" are the best albums.

The "Best Of - 458489 A Sides" CD is a good starting point if you are not familiar with the band. Some of their albums can be hard work!!

[basegreen]

I like hard work :)

[AndyWilson]

I love the Fall, but to be honest one album is pretty much the same as another!

[carlmcg]

Extricate for me.

[Mojo Risin]

MY FAVE FALL TRACK IS 'bILL IS dead'

the version they did on a peel session was awe inspiring to me

[emccusker]

Originally posted by AndyWilson
I love the Fall, but to be honest one album is pretty much the same as another!

Originally posted by gissing
I like hard work [/B]

..then forget all the recommendations for The Fall's comparitively easy-listening output from the late-Brix years and onwards and go for the stuff before she arrived. Totale's Turn (It's Now Or Never) is a riotous live album featuring Smith putting down hecklers from the stage and though it sounds like it was recorded on a tape deck left sitting on the bar, it's a great album. One of The Fall's best-of's - the castle communications one that's also got City Hobgoblins, The North Will Rise Again and How I Wrote Elastic Man on it - lifts about the first five tracks from this album.

Studio-wise, it's not possible to go wrong with <A HREF="http://www.cdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=182">Hex Enduction Hour</A>, which is their best by some margin and the one the fans rank as the best. Two drummers, a clutch of great songs and Smith at his most vitriolic as he was thinking about packing it all in, Hex sounds fantastic, is fairly daunting and it's scratchy cover will look like nothing else in your record collection. It can also be a tricky one to track down so kudos for rarity. It's also got a song - Hip Priest - that featured in The Silence Of The Lambs.

Just buy it.

As for Mark E Smith, I remembered a good article ages ago, mentioned it on another forum and there was a load of requests for it elsewhere, so here it is...the wit of Mark E Smith - http://www.visi.com/fall/gigography/91dec00.html

Eamonn (..who thought that the best bit of 24hr Party People was Smith's one-line cameo, "y'aright Tony?")

[wong fei hong]

I think Grotesque is a great starting point and one of their best albums. Though the cover art is abysmal...

"The containers and their drivers, the containers! And their drivers!" :notworthy

[Dear Mr Echo]

There is a great 3 disc compilation, Psykick Dance Hall, that brings together a lot of their earlier recordings '77 - '82... there are 49 tracks on there and was great value. I got for £9.99 in Polar Bear in Manchester.

Of the mellower (if that is a word that can be mentioned in the same breath as the Fall) I would recommend Shiftwork. But they really are one of those bands where you can't go too wrong by just picking one at random.

Andrew

[dan13l]

All opinions fed to me be one far more knowledgable than myself :

Dragnet

Live Various Years - some great live 90's stuff including a show stopping version Big New Prinz

Levitate - bit of a shambles, but the last album with Steve Hanley

Any compilation with Wings on it

Dan.

"I curse your preoccupation with your dvd collection" :)

[la_folie]

Originally posted by Mojo Risin
MY FAVE FALL TRACK IS 'bILL IS dead'

the version they did on a peel session was awe inspiring to me

One of my faves too - it`s about his Dad dying isn`t it?

Didn`t we have this conversation about a year ago? I`d say go with Unnuterable. A lot of The Fall`s stuff can be hard going at first. I`ve had to re-mortgage the house to get every bloody album!


Anyway nevermind the Fall check out the new Stranglers album out next month! :notworthy

[kjmacphee]

Just been sent an e-mail by 101cd.com. They've got a stack of Fall CDs (includingthe 8489ASides or whatever it's called) for £5.99 each. I think delivery is a quid on top. Loads of other stuff in there too :clap:

Only problem is it's part of a promotion and delivery is three weeks away.

[EDIT] Should have guessed that would be a mistake. £55 and 9 CDs later ...

Great stuff on there and not the usual sale rubbish.

[NicolaUK]

Originally posted by carlmcg
Extricate for me.

:thumbs: Closely followed by The Infotainment Scan - Service is :notworthy

[RPG]

gissing lent me his copy of "Country on the click" and even though it took a good listen through my 'pod to get into it they are really good :thumbs:

Contraflow is my fave on that album :)

They sound a bit like a mellowed out Ten Benson crossed with the sleepy jackson on CotC, and thats a good thing :thumbs:

[mikef]

Thanks KJMacphee...I've been thinking of getting the A and B sides for a while...slowly getting all my Fall albums on CD, though my wife does question why any man needs over 50 Fall cds...

Lots of other good stuff in the sale also, picked up a copy of the Human League Dare/Love and Dancing remaster set for 8.49, and some Natacha Atlas stuff.....

mikef

[la_folie]

Anyone got Country on The Click? (as in the unreleased version) How`s it compare with "The Real Fall album" ?

[dan13l]

Originally posted by la_folie
Anyone got Country on The Click? (as in the unreleased version) How`s it compare with "The Real Fall album" ?

I've got it - its quite different in places. I thought for a while that I preferred it, but now I'm not sure.

[RPG]

woooooow!

Just come back from town clutching "Are You Are Missing Winner" on Vinyl 12" Picture disc (Limited of 1000!) for a mere £5!! :D

Its really good as well :D

[basegreen]

Wonder where I can find a copy of the original country on the click?

[dan13l]

Like I said, I've got it. But posting it is almost certainly going to be against the t's & c's. Or is it, given that it was never released...? :confused:

[SteveGriff]

Probably my favourite Fall track is "The Classical", but hey, Country on the Click is a great album to start listening to The Fall...

heh how many "old" bands can you note that bring out really good albums these days?

Steve Griff

[LiviLion]

I picked up a cd for 3 quid once.

It's got a live set on it and a studio album. Called 'Slates' with 'Part Of America Therein' on it.

I was watching MTV2/VH2/The Amp (one of them) the other night and Hip Priest was on it. It sounded totally different to the version on 'Part of America Thereing'. much more 'poppy' wheras the live version is very dark.

Interesting Fact: Hip Priest is in Silence of the Lambs.

LL

[basegreen]

Originally posted by dan13l
Like I said, I've got it. But posting it is almost certainly going to be against the t's & c's. Or is it, given that it was never released...? :confused:


Yes it is still against t&cs

However, you just need to seek in your soul to find it :thinking: :wave:

[Arch Stanton]

Anybody intrested in the Fall or those taking thier first step into the world of Mark E Smith might like to check out a new compilation out this week called '50,000 Fall fans can't be wrong'. it's the first best of to cover the complete history of the band from the late 70's to this years real fall album. It misses loads of stuff at just 39 tracks (nothing off the Infortainment scan!) but it's as good a place to start as anywhere.

[Whiting]

The track-listing for the forthcoming Peel Sessions extravaganza has been announced...



The Complete Peel Sessions 1978-2004 [28th March 2005]

6 CD box set ; all 24 Peel sessions ; 96 tracks

Includes a 30 page booklet featuring rare photos.

Disc 1:
15-06-78: Futures And Pasts - Mother-Sister! - Rebellious Jukebox - Industrial Estate
06-12-78: Put Away - Mess Of My - No Xmas For John Quays - Like To Blow
24-09-80: Container Drivers - Jawbone And The Air Rifle - New Puritan - New Face In Hell
31-03-81: Middlemass - Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul - Hip Priest - CnC Hassle Schmuck

Disc 2:
15-09-81: Deer Park - Look Know - Winter - Who Makes The Nazis?
23-03-83: Smile - Garden - Hexen Definitive Strife Knot - Eat Y'self Fitter
03-01-84: Pat Trip Dispenser - 2 x 4 - Words Of Expectation - CREEP

Disc 3:
03-06-85: Cruiser's Creek - Couldn't Get Ahead - Spoilt Victorian Child - Gut Of The Quantifier
07-10-85: LA - The Man Whose Head Expanded - What You Need - Faust Banana
09-07-86: Hot Aftershave Bop - ROD - Gross Chapel GB Grenadiers - US 80's-90's
09-05-87: Athlete Cured - Australians In Europe - Twister - Guest Informant

Disc 4:
31-10-88: Deadbeat Descendant - Cab It Up - Squid Lord - Kurious Oranj
01-01-90: Chicago Now - Black Monk Theme - Hilary - Whizz Bang
23-03-91: The War Against Intelligence - Idiot Joy Showland - A Lot Of Wind - The Mixer

Disc 5:
15-02-92: Free Range - Kimble - Immortality - Return
13-03-93: Ladybird (Green Grass) - Strychnine - Service - Paranoia Man In Cheap **** Room
05-12-94: M5 - Behind The Counter - Reckoning - Hey! Student
17-12-94: Glam Racket Star - Jingle Bell Rock - Hark The Herald Angels Sing - Numb At The Lodge
22-12-95: He Pep! - Oleano - Chilinist - The City Never Sleeps
18-08-96: DIY Meat - Spinetrak - Spencer - Beatle Bones N Smokin' Stones

Disc 6:
03-03-98: Calendar - Touch Sensitive - Masquerade - Jungle Rock
04-11-98: Bound Soul One - Antidotes - Shake Off - This Perfect Day
13-03-03: Theme From Sparta FC - Contraflow - Groovin' With Mr Bloe Green Eyed Loco Man - Mere Pseud Mag Ed
12-08-04: Clasp Hands - Blindness - What About Us - Wrong Place, Right Time > I Can Here The Grass Grow

[dan13l]

Nice - very much looking forward to that. I've only heard the last two sessions, so hearing the earlier stuff will be fantastic.

[Mr Majestik]

I was watching MTV2/VH2/The Amp (one of them) the other night and Hip Priest was on it. It sounded totally different to the version on 'Part of America Thereing'. much more 'poppy' wheras the live version is very dark.

Interesting Fact: Hip Priest is in Silence of the Lambs.

LL

There was a popier version of Hip priest done on the 'I am Curious Orange' L.P/Ballet experiment art piece.

[sideshowbob]

Another vote for Extricate.

[samuelowens]

I got given 50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong by my brother (a Fall nutter) to give me a nice overview of Mark E's rather prolific career.

I think from here, I'm going to try This Nation's Saving Grace, Hex Induction Hour and Live at the Witch Trials (I quite like the early stuff on the compilation).

[brattle]

Those three are definately up there with The Falls very best, so go for it. :thumbs:

Interesting that imo they chose one of the weaker songs off TNSG for the 50,000 FFCBW compilation. Gut of the Quantifier, My New House, L.A. and I am Damo Suzuki are amazing songs (although itis admiited in the sleeve notes that there is a wealth of material on that album).

[w8tm85]

make sure you get the reissues of hex / live at the witch trials (with the bonus tracks / cds)

[samuelowens]

I was kind of hoping I'd inherit the old versions from my brother. ;)

[Adge]

The new one is a corker too - http://music.thedigitalfix.co.uk/content/review/9861/the-fall.html