View Full Version : Films you didn't like first time around but now love?
Carnival of Souls (the original)
Flesh for Frankenstein
Rushmore
Billy Liar
I should add I had nothing against the last two, but couldn't see what all the fuss was about. Now, of course, that has switched round 180 degrees!
The Matrix - thought it was a pile of poo the first time round, I now think it is superb!
Didn't like Mystery Men when i bought it blind a while back, now i think it's a bit of a missed classic. Great dialogue
Ben Martin
18-10-2001, 00:37
i didn't like the matrix first time round because i was comparing it to episode I at the time (however daft that sounds!) after everyone in the states did the same but in the opposite order. bought it six months later on dvd and have loved it ever since.
also disliked shakespeare in love at the cinema because i knew that most of the people in the room normally never went to see movies (the out for the 'culturally-superior' brit flick crowd) and had all already decided they loved it before the first reel. so i wanted to rail against that. saw it later on a flight back from new york (beered up with Grover!) and enjoyed it, bought the dvd and have lapped it up ever since! :)
I despised Me, Myself and Irene in the Cinema - utterly utterly trashed it for months to everyone I knew. Parents rented the DVD and I watched it again and thoroughly enjoyed it - its not as good as it could have been and the Farelly's are definitely losing their edge but its just fun.
dave.
Ben Martin
18-10-2001, 01:17
kanedaa, i was the other way round with me, myself & irene. lapped it up at the ciname, then bought the region 1 and watched it last week and was very disappointed. i realised that, for me at least, charlie's three sons were the only thing that really provided exceptional, original comedy - and that the rest was just average. .... want to buy it?! ;) :D
also, is it me or does the transfer suffer from unnecessary edge-enhancement?
Death Becomes Her
I really didn't like it at all when I saw it at the flicks back in '92 but then I watched it in video and TV and bought the dvd. It gets funnier and funnier everytime! It's all in the performances (especially Meryl Streep - class comedienne!). When are we gonna get an SE of this - including that whole other ending with Tracy Ullman as a barmaid in the mountain chalet?
Ben Martin - already got it i'm afraid :) Must admit I still don't really consider it a 'good' film, but I find comedies far more rewatchable and with that in mind Me, Myself and Irene is a film I can put on and sit through no problem....but i did REALLY hate it at the cinema!! :D
dave.
sweetmate
18-10-2001, 02:42
Thought Matrix was so-so in the cinema (was watching alot of Yuen Wo Ping films at the time, so the film had its "edge" slightly dulled) but like it more now.
Thought Forrest Gump was daft, cheesey and American when I first saw it, now I absolutely love it, found alot of "layers" to it on subsequent viewings.
Was a little dissapointed with Fight Club on first viewing, but now I absolutley worship the film, it gets better on each viewing.
And then there are those films that take repeated viewing to truly fall in love with:
Big Lebowski - i'm up to about 30 viewings now, you begin to memorise the script at about the 3rd or 4th viewing.
Spinal Tap - I'm on about 40 viewings, it truly sinks in about the 6th time. The ability to quote the least obvious quotes is a treasured skill amongst Tap fans. "...these go to 11" is socially shunned nowdays, so try something like "a musical version of somebody up there likes me..." or "tuna - no bones" or maybe "....barbershop, it's @@@@ing barbershop raga!..."
Creamstick
18-10-2001, 02:45
Blair Witch 2: Book of Shadows.
After watching Joe Berlinger's two documentaries about the Robin Hood Hills Child Murders, I decided to give it another go, ordered the DVD and have discovered hidden subtleties and themes that I overlooked the first time I saw it.
The Matrix was the other way about for me, I loved it upon first viewing in the cinema (unbelieveably, i hadn't even heard of it when I went to see it with a few friends), but after getting it on DVD, It just didn't ring with me, even after repeated viewings.
Didn't like Mystery Men when i bought it blind a while back, now i think it's a bit of a missed classic. Great dialogue Me too, I was worried I had bought such a crap film... The next week - I listened to the commentary... Ever since I started enjoying it more and more!
Another film I din't like at first was Luc Besson's "Nikita" - however, I saw this in the crappily dubbed English version... Now I really enjoy it...
Star Wars Episode I: I thought George Lucas had ruined the series the first time around... Now I really like it - not as much as the first trilogy though!
Another vote here for Mystery Men !
Pulp Fiction
I actually turned this off half way through cos I didn't understand what was happened, why John Travolta came back from the grave etc etc. Awaitng SE DVD.
Being John Malkovich
First time round I didn't know what to think, apart from 'it's interesting, but very boring'. Bought on DVD
Chasing Amy
After Dogma came out (which I loved) I started working my way through the other KS films. When I got to Chasing Amy I was practicly waiting for Jay and Bob to come on. As this didn't happen till near the end, I missed a lot of the film and consequently didn't like it. Now I've got it on DVD and it's my fav KS film :D
The Godfather - I used to really hate this, I could never see why people liked it and it seem to drag forever! :eek:
Reservoir Dogs - I didn't like this on first viewing. :eek:
Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia - First time I watched this I wasn't sure who the star, Warren Oates was. I followed the film thinking the star was someone else and my brain kept 'turning off' during Oates scenes thinking they were unimportant. :o
With regards to The Matrix I was very impressed with it at the cinema, but much less so on the two occasions I've seen it since.
Tristan H
18-10-2001, 10:39
I actually thought that Vertigo was a thoroughly boring and over-rated film when I first saw it. I've since watched it about another 6 times and would rank it amongst my top 10 favourite films of all time!
Vinyl-Pants
18-10-2001, 11:12
am I the only person who immensly enjoyed mystery men the first time around? Saw it at a mates house and when I got home I ordered it on DVD. The dialogue is very clever however if you are not concentrating most of the humour will pass you by.
In terms of films that have grown on me with subsequent viewings I can only think of one;
Natural Born Killers : DC I love this movie now AND I PREFER THE ALTERNATE ENDING raaaa :)
Originally posted by Narshty
Rushmore
I should add I had nothing against the last two, but couldn't see what all the fuss was about. Now, of course, that has switched round 180 degrees!
Glad to see you've turned around on this one! :)
charlie angel
18-10-2001, 11:33
NBK for me as well.
bazkeane82
18-10-2001, 12:08
didn't like akria first time round, probably because i was a kid and didn't get what was going on, this it not really a film but i hated friends when first started , but seem to love it when i got use to the characters
Lex Luthor
18-10-2001, 12:08
Originally posted by sweetmate
Was a little dissapointed with Fight Club on first viewing, but now I absolutley worship the film, it gets better on each viewing.
And then there are those films that take repeated viewing to truly fall in love with:
Big Lebowski - i'm up to about 30 viewings now, you begin to memorise the script at about the 3rd or 4th viewing.Jeez, it's like I already posted reading this!!
Saw Big Lebowski on a plane and didn't really click with it, now it's one of may all time faves.
Kevin Harper
18-10-2001, 12:25
At lot of your decisions regarding how much you like a film are often based on circumstances - Age, when you saw it - where you saw it etc. So it is interesting to revisit films and have a totally different opinion.
A lot of older classic film such as Vertigo and The Godfather have such a reputation that and you read they are good so therefore they must be....(personally I love 'em) but stuff like this can give you preconceived ideas and the initial viewing can be disappointing.
I hated "Last Tango In Paris" when I first saw it as a teenager. I thought it was pretentious and boring. I saw it ten years later and liked it a bit more and then another ten years later and absolutely loved it - having been through a destructive relationship myself obviously helped.
Others:
"Nashville"
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
"An American In Paris"
"Rebecca".
L.A. Confidential, I saw it when it first came out in the cinema and for some reasion I didn't get into it at all. I watched it on DVD a few months ago and the experience was the complete opposite.
Watched this about 5 years ago on video and didn't go a lot on it. But I bought a while ago cheaply on DVD (£5.99 in Encore Directs closing down sale) and when I watched it again I loved it. I know it's a bit cheesy but it has a bit of everything, war and peace, love and hatred, laughter and tears... :D . Great stuff ;) .
britboy1979
18-10-2001, 14:46
Really didn't like Almost Famous when I first got it on DVD. Living in the middle of nowhere, England (a.k.a. Lancaster) meant that the little cinema didn't get it, and when I came home for the weekend to Bolton, it had done so badly at the cinema, it was taken off after 2 weeks so I missed it here.
After hearing many brilliant reviews I decided to do my first blind DVD purchase. However I was massively dissappointed. Since then it's really grown on me, not really sure why and I wish I hadn't got the normal R2 version as I really want the Bootleg R1 version out in December.
Dear Mr Echo
18-10-2001, 14:52
Shame on me I know but I wasn't particularly taken with Fargo on first viewing. But love it now. To be honest I saw it at 11 o'clock at night on the first National Cinema Day - and it was our 4th film of the day so I probably wasn't really paying as much attention as I should have:)
Andrew
Michael Brooke
18-10-2001, 14:54
I'm greatly looking forward to seeing the <I>Three Colours</I> trilogy again, having been surprisingly disappointed by them first (and only) time round back in 1994 - but I suspect this was because Kieslowski's earlier work cast a <U>very</U> long shadow over just about everything I saw in that period. I always meant to see them again - I just never got round to it!
I was discussing this with my girlfriend the other night, and how I hated one of my now all time favourites when I saw it - I am talking about ALIEN.
I must have been 12 or 13 when I first rented it out on video, and I was soooooo disappointed, I thought it dragged tremendously.
A couple of years later it was on t.v. and I decided to give it another go - now, well I must watch it at least 2 or 3 times a year, it really is the ultimate horror film.
Originally posted by Dear Mr Echo
Shame on me I know but I wasn't particularly taken with Fargo on first viewing. But love it now. To be honest I saw it at 11 o'clock at night on the first National Cinema Day - and it was our 4th film of the day so I probably wasn't really paying as much attention as I should have:)
Andrew
It's funny you should say that but i wasn't particularly fond of fargo either, so much so that i switched off half way through. Having loved the big lebowski and O' Brother it's one i want to get to grips with again.
SqueakyG
18-10-2001, 16:18
The Big Lebowski:
I just didn't think it was funny, and I thought it was a mess. Then I saw it on TV a couple of years later and couldn't stop laughing. Now it is one of the funniest and most quotable movies I know of.
A Clockwork Orange:
The standard ignorant view first time round... "It looks all weird, it's old, I can't understand it". Subsequent viewings were easier, and then I read the book. Now I really appreciate the film.
Fight Club:
I thought it was too long, too weird, I have always hated Brad Pitt, and all the gushing by the intellectual mags (Sight and Sound loved it) made it seem very overrated. Of course I couldn't resist buying the DVD because of all the special features, and when I watched it again I liked it a lot more.
The Phantom Menace:
Have you ever been to Star Wars message boards? Man, they are freaks. This movie has generated a very bitter war between Star wars fans: the Gushers and the Bashers. i was a basher at first, because I find many faults with the film. But I just can't help watching it because it's Star Wars! And even though i find a lot of fault with it and I was unimpressed when I first saw it, it actually entertains me a lot.
Say Anything. Was expecting the usual John Hughes type teen movie.
Watched it again a couple of years later, now well up there in my top ten.
Andy
Cap'n Al
18-10-2001, 17:15
Most Hitchcock films, actually, with the exceptions of North by Northwest and Frenzy, both of which I loved the first time I saw them.
Dan Druff
18-10-2001, 17:28
I hated Brazil the first time I saw it (on BBC2 years ago). I watched it again a week later. I then went out and bought it. A Top Twenty film.
Jacob's Ladder didn't do much for me in the cinema, but now I think it is superb.
I reckon that films you loved when you were younger become 'stupid' and 'empty' as you get older, and films you thought were 'boring' when you were a young hip thing, turn out to be a multi-layered classic of the highest order as you near your thirties. Or in MB's case, older. ;)
wong fei hong
18-10-2001, 20:03
I usually get the measure of things first time round, and tend to not change my mind too much.
The only biggie with me is The Exorcist, which I saw in a cinema in about 1990 (aged 15) and laughed my way through it. I don't know why, it seemed so ridiculous and forced...
Saw it again at the pictures when the 'remastered' (or whatever :rolleyes: ) version came out and it blew me away. Terrifying! Still haven't picked up a dvd of it though... :D
Rushmore - not a dislike as much as a disappointment after all the Forums hype
Withnail & I - similar I guess although less appealing than Rushmore on first viewing. It is now one of my, and several of my friends, favourite and obviously most quoted films. Indeed. only last night after a bottle and half of wine and 2hrs of UTD vs Burnley I decided to text Withnail quotes around the UK in boredom only to receive several back - great way to spend n hour and warm your cockles before collapsing into bed :)
Tiffany Bradford
04-12-2002, 14:34
I guess I am odd man (woman) out here, because I have never changed my mind about a film, no matter how many subsequent viewings - my first impression is always my final impression, be it good or bad :)
KeyserSoze
04-12-2002, 14:39
Akira here too.
SW Ep I
LOTR
The Wicker Man
and for Fight Club, i think it gets worse with every viewing. I cant seem to get past the first half hour when i watch it now.
Fight Club & Scary Movie - I watched them both on pirated VHS copys from a mate and they looked & sounded terrible but when I got round to watching them on Sky they where both very good movies (esp. Fight Club). I have never watched a pirated movie since (and don't intend to either :D )
Train Spotting.
Once all the stupid bloody hype had dissapeared and I watched
it again PROPERLY - I loved it. Bit more of an intelligent film than
I had given it credit for (whatever that means).
Donnie Darko and Ronin are two that spring to mind.
bobmartino
04-12-2002, 15:52
Pitch Black, thought it was alright at the cinema but now love it and have seen it too many times of DVD.
Originally posted by bobmartino
Pitch Black, thought it was alright at the cinema but now love it and have seen it too many times of DVD.
Thats still in my "to watch" pile, lets hope I agree with you :)
neilalford
04-12-2002, 16:18
Another Withnail and I here, watched it once, very disapointed, I think I only laughed once, then I saw it again later with a friend who was a big fan and enjoyed it a lot more, watched it many times since!
Mandrill
04-12-2002, 16:38
Originally posted by SqueakyG
The Phantom Menace:
Have you ever been to Star Wars message boards? Man, they are freaks. This movie has generated a very bitter war between Star wars fans: the Gushers and the Bashers. i was a basher at first, because I find many faults with the film. But I just can't help watching it because it's Star Wars! And even though i find a lot of fault with it and I was unimpressed when I first saw it, it actually entertains me a lot.
:lol: I know EXACTLY what you mean.I tend to just read the threads and keep out of the fireing line :smokin:
Like Tiffany I decide if I like the film first time if I dont I proberly won't watch it again.
Niceguygeoff
04-12-2002, 20:14
Starship Troopers. I saw it when I was younger and the political subtext (overt as it may be) went straight over my head, and the endless violence and gore left me cold. But then I bought the R1 dvd for the hell of it a couple of years ago, and now I think it's bloody brilliant! Doogie Howser MD as a Nazi? You don't get more subversive than that.
Point Blank is another that left me bored senseless as a young un'. But I caught it again a couple of years later, and the pace and rhythm of the movie is mesmerising. And a little bit of flesh from Angie Dickenson - what more could you want?
Ol' Blue Eyes
04-12-2002, 20:34
There were a couple of very cynical 80s crime movies I didn't get into when I rented them as a teenager but learned to appreciate later - William Friedkin's To Live And Die In LA and Cop with James Woods. I wish they'd hurry up and put them out on DVD. I'd love to quote Woods' closing speech in Cop here but it would spoil the ending AND I'd be banned!
Fozzybear
04-12-2002, 20:41
I don't think I've changed my mind completely about a film - I can't really say that I love any films that I didn't like first time, but I've changed my mind about quite a lot of films. The ones that I can remember are:
Apocalypse Now - like it a lot more after seeing the Redux version, peversely thought the original dragged!
Cape Fear - original version first didn't like now like a lot
Cape Fear - new version first liked now don't like, it's just poor.
Face Off - thought this was appalling, now I kinda like it, even with the bad story.
The Rock - still think it's a bit stupid and overacted, but I like watching it now.
Heathers - thought was weird and too '80s, but it is pretty cool
Reservoir Dogs - nearly walked out of the cinema when I first saw this, but recently saw it again and think it's quite good.
The Blues Brothers - I don't love this film, but it's very, very good. And I hated it originally - it's a blues musical! :zzz:
Jackie Brown - originally thought it was boring, but now I find it intriguing.
Get Shorty - same as Jackie Brown
Brian De Palma's Scarface. Thought it was shallow & unpleasant first time I saw it, but I now think that it's worthy of being described as Shakespearean.
Originally posted by Dene
Brian De Palma's Scarface. Thought it was shallow & unpleasant first time I saw it, but I now think that it's worthy of being described as Shakespearean.
:clap:
Say what you like about Oliver Stone, thats a ****-hot script
My first viewing of Blade Runner when it woz first released on video-rental woz a HUGE disappointment ... Woz expecting another Star Wars.
Now it sits high in my list of Fave movies. (Also best ever movie soundtrack IMO).
digitalis
16-01-2003, 17:16
LOTR (the first one) - at the cinema, it seemed fairly average, almost certainly because of the anticlimatic leave-it-hanging-in-the-air-why-don't-you ending, but I was much more impressed when I watched it on DVD the other week.
I wonder if the fact that it was the extended version made some subtle difference, too...
sweetmate
16-01-2003, 17:26
Originally posted by digitalis
LOTR (the first one) - at the cinema, it seemed fairly average, almost certainly because of the anticlimatic leave-it-hanging-in-the-air-why-don't-you ending, but I was much more impressed when I watched it on DVD the other week.
I wonder if the fact that it was the extended version made some subtle difference, too...
Agreed, on first viewing i was lukewarm on it, thought the pacing was a bit off, couldnt really follow all the names and places.
Didnt bother with the Theatrical Cut on DVD, figured I'd wait for the Extended. When I saw it again it all clicked into place. The denseness of the story was served better by the extended length, allowing characters to "breathe" a little instead of continously sending them on to the next location. I didn't get bogged down by all the names and characters.
Have watched it 3 times on dvd in all, and have watched all the extras and seen Two Towers twice at the cinema!! (p.s. i've never read the books, just read the hobbit at an early age, waiting till after ROTK at the cinema before I read the books)
rubber duck
16-01-2003, 18:06
First time around I didn’t like Starship Troopers, From Dusk Till Dawn, The Exorcist and The Fifth Element. I think I wanted the films to be something that they were not, now I except them for what they are I love them. :D
CraigKORE
17-01-2003, 00:40
Eyes Wide Shut is the one that comes to my head right away. Seen it in the pictures and was nearly falling asleep trying to follow what was going on. Seen it 3 or 4 times now and it becomes more interesting with each viewing...
loujareth
22-02-2003, 21:31
Lots mentioned here for me.
Just been watching The Wicker Man again, it just gets better and better.
Blade Runner bored me to tears when I first saw it on it opening day but as with Wicker Man, the directors versions turn your views around.
Originally posted by john316
The Matrix - thought it was a pile of poo the first time round, I now think it is superb!
Yes, I thought the Matrix was rubbish when I saw it at the cinema, then loved it on DVD!:smokin:
mseriksen
25-02-2003, 13:12
Wasn't particulary impressed with Lord of the Rings in the Cinema. Having watched the extended cut on DVD (borrowed from a friend) ,I was amazed at not having loved this movie the first time around.
It might be that the 30 extra minutes was what I needed of "breather time" in the movie, as it felt a bit hectic.
I'm now halfway through the books and hope to finish them before seeing the next movie.
:)
dazza001
25-02-2003, 17:13
I was quite disappointed when I first saw "Brotherhood of the Wolf" at the cinema (I had very high expectations). However, it has become a real 'grower' and I love my 4-disc version... mmmm...
Dazza.
bruce-leroy
20-03-2003, 11:21
Originally posted by dazza001
I was quite disappointed when I first saw "Brotherhood of the Wolf" at the cinema (I had very high expectations). However, it has become a real 'grower' and I love my 4-disc version... mmmm...
Dazza.
Same here. Didn't think it was that good when I watched it in the cinema, but enjoyed it a lot more second time around on dvd.
Moulin Rouge is another film which i was able to appreciate much more on the second viewing.
SarahByte
20-03-2003, 12:24
I didn't think much of Donnie Darko, Signs and Sexy Beast the first time I watched them, but when I watched them again I liked them.
balstino
20-03-2003, 13:25
Originally posted by Kevin Harper
At lot of your decisions regarding how much you like a film are often based on circumstances - Age, when you saw it - where you saw it etc. So it is interesting to revisit films and have a totally different opinion.
A lot of older classic film such as Vertigo and The Godfather have such a reputation that and you read they are good so therefore they must be....(personally I love 'em) but stuff like this can give you preconceived ideas and the initial viewing can be disappointing.
I totally agree with this, the major one in my case was the Third Man. I appreciated the quality of it, but it didn't live up to my expectations. Also, I think there is a little factor, you like the way it's done or you don't. The directors etc... are on your wave length? :)
Dan Druff
20-03-2003, 14:26
O Brother Where Art Thou
The Big Lebowski
The Hudsucker Proxy
Thought were only OK at first..I love now so much.
What do they have in common? :suspect:
CrackD0wn
20-03-2003, 14:43
Lord of the Ring: Fellowship of the Ring
Hadn't read any of the books, and probably needed a second viewing to follow the story better. Love it now after seeing it on DVD a few times.
Taxi Driver.
1st go: HE'S-JUST-DRIVING-ROUND!!! :p
2nd go: Amazing.
Gotta go with Fight Club, its been mentioned several times here already! Saw it first time and not at all impressed, second and third time the quotes and everything really started growing on me, now I think it would be one in my top ten!
Out of Sight - not that great first time round, now really enjoy watching it!
Big lebowski was a grower for me too. I just can't stop watching it now.
Hated Summer Of Sam at the cinema but was compelled to watch it again on DVD. I now think it was one of the top 5 of the 90's.
Way of the Gun is growing on me at the moment.
Cirrus888
20-03-2003, 16:59
Blade Runner
1st go - where's all the sci-fi action ? ... this is paint peeling over time boring ...
2nd go - yep still boring ...
3rd go - its a bit like alien ... boring!
4th go on my big screen projector set-up ... fcuk me this is an amazing film!
snow patrol
20-03-2003, 19:41
-The Thin Red Line for me. Now I think it's on of the best films in my collection. Not to mention the splendid DTS track and picture.
Originally posted by Cirrus888
Blade Runner
1st go - where's all the sci-fi action ? ... this is paint peeling over time boring ...
2nd go - yep still boring ...
3rd go - its a bit like alien ... boring!
4th go on my big screen projector set-up ... fcuk me this is an amazing film!
Cirrus - just out of curiousity how many times would you persist in watching something that you didn't like?
I can understand someone giving a movie a second chance because of viewing circumstances, but to watch a movie 3 times, dislike it and still come back for more is just being masochistic!!
:)
Some bloke
20-03-2003, 19:52
Glad to see The Big Lebowski being mentioned frequently here - I didn't quite follow it first time (admittedly I wasn't paying 100% attention throughout, which tends to ruin films for me) and overlooked the fact that the humour is largely character rather than plot-based, but after two further viewings I've come to regard it as possibly the funniest US film I've ever seen.
Hopefully the same will be true of Fargo, which I was mildly disappointed by when I watched it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Can't think of anything else offhand.
Cirrus888
21-03-2003, 07:21
JonB - I wouldn't normally bother with films I don't like after the first viewing but everyone says (all of the time) that Blade runner is the best film ever ... you just have to give it chance ... besides its still boring on the small screen :p
balstino
21-03-2003, 09:06
I have to say that I wasn't overly impressed with HERO first time around, but that Donnie Yen vs Jet Li fight is making it grow on me! :D
Hopefully the same will be true of Fargo, which I was mildly disappointed by when I watched it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Can't think of anything else offhand.
Don't worry, fargo is the grower to end all grower's.
bruce-leroy
22-03-2003, 00:34
Originally posted by kerraig
Don't worry, fargo is the grower to end all grower's.
I thought Fargo was fantastic first time round. :nuts:
Vinyl-Pants
22-03-2003, 18:18
'American Psycho', 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' and 'The Big Lebowski' are the three that spring to mind. Probably in that order, I've since seen American Psycho more times than I care to remember as well as forcing friends to sit through it - one of my current favourites!
Queen Bee
22-03-2003, 23:42
Originally posted by CraigKORE
Eyes Wide Shut is the one that comes to my head right away. Seen it in the pictures and was nearly falling asleep trying to follow what was going on. Seen it 3 or 4 times now and it becomes more interesting with each viewing...
Me wonders why :suspect:
The music is fab tho ;)
bouncingjohn
23-03-2003, 01:29
Starship Troopers - in my defence; I had had a few pints before going to see it and spent some time in the toilet and the rest of the time not really following what was going on (I think I may have dozed off at one point) - okay, not much of a defence, but I left thinking it was a pile of doo doo. However, one of my mates kept going on about how good it was so I got it on DVD (watched it while sober) and loved it!
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