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Hi, Im thinking about buying this standalone divx player from Amazon for £80. its the YAMADA 6100.
Does anyone know if these are any good? Does it play without lots of faffing about and does it play all sorts of divx files or have lots of problems? whats your experience?
DJBenson
09-01-2004, 15:28
Checkout my site at www.my-yamada.co.uk
I own one and it's the dog's danglies!
Bit of a long wait for Amazon though isn't it (4-6 weeks last time I checked)?
Dave 3:16
09-01-2004, 15:30
Ebuyer sell them too IIRC. Check delivery times there, may be cheaper too, you never know
hey dj benson - cook will check out the site! i have lots of divxs already burnt on iso dvd discs with long names - will it play these?
DJBenson
09-01-2004, 15:36
The DVX-6100 has a simple file browser, which at the moment seems to truncate long filenames, but they will play nontheless.
There is a guide to what will play and what won't on my site, as well as some other guides related to this player.
MarcusBerry
09-01-2004, 16:01
Yep - brought one of these a few months ago and can confirm they're the mutts nuts.... the only problem i've found was depending on how the divx movie was recorded it might not play full-screen. ie. some movies would play in a tiny letterbox format etc.
However, I've recently heard there is a firmware upgrade now available that fixes this problem.
Apart from that it's an excellent player, multi-region out the box and has played everything that i've thrown at it so far.
Marcus
DJBenson
09-01-2004, 16:07
Latest firmware (22/12/2003) fixes the "letterbox-divx" problem - firmware and full guide from link above ;)
Cheers Dan, Jonathan and Marcus
Any more opinions appreciated:thumbs:
does it have component out
LooNaTiK
09-01-2004, 18:27
ordered one this week from ebuyer, i know 2 people who have they.
they are indeed the dogs danglies. :)
LooN
DJBenson
10-01-2004, 00:42
Originally posted by Kyro
does it have component out
No, full technical specs here (http://dj-benson.co.uk/my-yamada.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=7).
Originally posted by LooNaTiK
ordered one this week from ebuyer, i know 2 people who have they.
they are indeed the dogs danglies. :)
LooN
the ess chipset is naff compared to the new mediatek one.
Originally posted by DJBenson
No, full technical specs here (http://dj-benson.co.uk/my-yamada.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=7).
doesnt matter it has the ESS chipset which blows, look for a Divx player with the new mediatek chipset
DJBenson
10-01-2004, 15:57
Originally posted by Kyro
doesnt matter it has the ESS chipset which blows, look for a Divx player with the new mediatek chipset
Do you own one?
There is nothing about this player that "blows", and for the price it's excellent. Anything it doesn't play (WMV/Quicktime/RM) my PC will - so it's no great loss.
Originally posted by DJBenson
Do you own one?
There is nothing about this player that "blows", and for the price it's excellent. Anything it doesn't play (WMV/Quicktime/RM) my PC will - so it's no great loss.
yes there is, it doesnt fully support DIvx fetaures like Qpel and GMC. its pretty much on the same level as the Kiss DVP500 player which I own.
DJBenson
10-01-2004, 20:55
The player does support GMC. ;)
my advice to interested people is sit tight.
there is gonna be a rush of Divx players in the next few months, just like the DVD players that played mp3 a few years back.
and just like a few years back many of those players were naff and the companies that made them have died.
sit back and let the others be your guinea pig:D
Kyro
you guinea pig:confused:
Originally posted by sho
Kyro
you guinea pig:confused:
I have a kiss DVP500 based on the Sigma chipset not brilliant but the kiss DVP players were the first one's.
no Im talking about these new cheap players based on the ESS and the superior MediaTek chipset.
DJBenson
11-01-2004, 17:15
Originally posted by Kyro
my advice to interested people is sit tight.
there is gonna be a rush of Divx players in the next few months, just like the DVD players that played mp3 a few years back.
and just like a few years back many of those players were naff and the companies that made them have died.
sit back and let the others be your guinea pig:D
If people thought like that, we would never move on in technology. It's a fact of life that you buy a piece of entertainment equipment (TV, DVD player, PC) and by next week, it's out of date - fact of life.
You are rubbishing a player that you have absolutely no experience of at all - just because it has the same features as your player does not mean it's the same, plus the Yamada costs half as much as the Kiss player.
Originally posted by DJBenson
If people thought like that, we would never move on in technology. It's a fact of life that you buy a piece of entertainment equipment (TV, DVD player, PC) and by next week, it's out of date - fact of life.
no they wouldnt your taking it way out of proportion.
the next type of hardware players will be WMF in HDTV format.
so it would be safer for these unfamous brand players to do the rounds abit before chsoing the right one.
And I am not rubbishing the yamada player but the chipset it uses
okay
:|
Bonzo Banana
11-01-2004, 19:01
I can see Kyro's point of view. Why buy now when the new mediatek based players are almost here based on improved technology. Knowing Mediatek there chips will be dirt cheap too meaning super low cost players as well.
Mediatek based players aren't perfect though, they tend to add as much as possible into their dvd processors including drive logic and many existing mediatek players out there have problems with seamless branching. They often have too much colour via scart rgb too.
I have a Kiss DP-450 and think its superb. Its not perfect but I've been using it for many months and enjoying it as has many Yamada owners and their players.
The way I see it if your someone who uses mainly downloaded divx/xvid films of the net then the new mediatek players are probably worth waiting for. However if like me divx/xvid is just a small subset of the films you play then why not buy now. Most divx/xvid films play on the Kiss or Yamada anyway.
Also another point is what will the first generation of these mediatek players be like anyway? The reality is they'll probably have bugs in the firmware and other minor problems which will be sorted out later in the second generation of players based on this chipset. Every new chipset has a learning curve for the firmware writers. This is mediatek's first mpeg 4 decoding chip and therefore the programmers writing the reference firmware at Mediatek are bound to make a few mistakes or omit a lot of features that are important first time round.
Don't get me wrong I think Mediatek are a brilliant company who are one of the main catalysts for the cheap dvd hardware we enjoy today. I'm sure Kiss and Yamada will ultimately end up doing mediatak based players.
In terms of playing just normal DVD's, whats the quality like on these? Would i get far better qualkity if i spent similar on a player that didnt play divx files?
Bonzo Banana
12-01-2004, 18:40
You probably would get better picture quality if you chose lets say a Toshiba 330 or Panasonic SE35 over the Yamada 6100 but it really depends on your display hardware. Many people use fairly low resolution sets or 100hz sets which lose fine detail when they video capture the incoming signal so they can display the same frame twice.
I find the picture quality of my Kiss player superb but then I'm using progressive mode only with my projector (AE100). To be honest I've no idea what its like on a conventional tv via scart.
Ask yourself the question do you have a display device that will show the difference?
DJBenson
12-01-2004, 22:13
This is one I can't really comment on - as my 6100 is linked to my 14" portable using a scart lead - not exactly home cinema, but the quality is good, and it handles layer changes with no trouble.
CrackD0wn
15-01-2004, 10:12
I've got one of these. Very good, and so worth the money. Had a few problems with it, but nothing extreme and for £80 you can't go wrong.
does it do playlists?
does it view text info files?
does it view jpegs?
doe it navigate into directories?
There's an interesting thread over at theDoom 9 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67028) forum which looks at the latest wave of MediaTek MT1389 DivX players being released in Europe (Lafayette seems to be the only UK one I can see), and it seems Bonzo's word of caution are well heeded : apparently the MT1389GE chipset is causing a few problems, resulting in MediaTek having to issue firmware upgrades to manufacturers. The MT1389DE chipset, however, is not riddled with faults.
The other interesting aspect, however, is that MediaTek have combined DVD Audio functionality into this chipset (probably only of any use on those players with on-board decoders and for those folks with AV receivers which can accept a decoded 5.1 signal).
In addition the MT1389 supports QPel and DivXPro, which I'm not too sure the ESS Vibratto does.
Oh, and Yamada already do an ordinary MediaTek powered DVD player in Germany, the DVD2600, so I don't think it won't be too long before they swap over to MediaTek for the DivX players too :)
ESS DivX players are very much in the minority it seems.
BTW DJ Benson - cracking website mate : a man after my own heart :thumbs:
http://www.elta.de/de/artikel.asp?Artikel=8883+MP4&Artikel1=8883&x=35&y=43
Hopefully Aldi will do the Medion soon... for £55 like in rest of Europe.... fingers crossed
Bonzo Banana
17-01-2004, 22:46
Well I'll be getting one at that price, thats for sure.
I don't think Aldi UK will be releasing the LT7457 over here, as they now tend to use the Tevion brand name for their consumer electronics like TVs (made by Beko), CD players, home theatre systems and DVD/VCRs - essentially the same parent company as Medion, but they source their products from different factories to Medion.
I believe their DVD players now come from Arlink in Taiwan, but it seems Arlink have now issued their own MediaTek MT1389 player, so hopefully there'll be one of sorts at some stage in the future.
It seems there is a frantic release of MT1389 players in France, Germany and Belgium but hardly anywhere else at present :(
My Yamada had to go back to Amazon because of a firmware upgrade problems which affected a large number of people who bought the machine in nov/dec time. Yamada have not fixed the problem and reading the yamada forum site it looks like they might never be able to do so.
Debated with myself about getting a new one or waiting a year till the next generation arrives. Plumped for the new one and am just waiting for Amazon to restock. It must be costing them a fortune as it was £18.50 to return the player which they have refunded to me and by all accounts a lot of machines have gone back.
Owning the Yamada feels a bit like computing as in order to gain the most from it you seem to need to keep in touch with what is going on with the player. Flash upgrades, techniques to do various things with the player. New rules for encoding DivX files etc. Its not like buying a say Sony which does exactly what it says on the box. With the Yamada you just never know.
Bonzo Banana
19-01-2004, 11:29
Thats a fair point about the Yamada in reference to constant firmware upgrades and the same could be said of the Kiss players. It will probably equally apply to the new mediatek players. The worst scenerio is when you buy a player that does mpeg4 and it doesn't have firmware upgrades and your left behind compared to other players.
So any recomendations for one? I want one that is region free and also divx/xvid.
I don't know what this Qtec and GMC stuff is, I will be mainly using for watching divx/xvid files....do...erm...encoding "professionals :norty:" use those features?
If the newer mediatek chip is better, when will players that use it be released? I need a divx player nowish.
Oh yeah and it would be helpful if it supported subtitle files, such as .srt .sub .idx etc
Any updates on any divx dvd players being available in the UK using the new chip?
naah not yet, does the yamada handle subs and long folder names??
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