Rules of Pool - UK 8 Ball

[Batch]

Please could you help me settle an argument over the rules of UK 8 ball pool.

After a foul is A or B correct

A
player pots a ball with their first shot
player misses a pot with their second shot
play passes back to the player who fowled

B
player pots a ball with their first shot
player misses a pot with their second shot
player takes another shot as they potted on their first shot

Hope this makes sense? I though it should be A but everyone disagrees with me.

[Mr Dubby]

might find your answer here ? (http://www.uk8ball.com/)

[andybhoy]

Depends on where you are. A is true up here in Newcastle whereas B is true in Slough.

[Batch]

That's the problem I've got. I've checked the rules and I'm sure I am right but they still disagree.

It says:
6. PENALTY FOLLOWING ANY FOUL.

Following any foul described under section 5 the oncoming player may play the cue ball from where it lies or from the ‘D’ (as in rule 8(b) and proceed as 6(b). Moving the cue ball to the ‘D’ does not constitute a Shot or Visit.

Following a foul, the oncoming player is entitled to one free shot which may be played may without nomination, play the cue ball directly onto any ball, including the opponents object balls and the 8 ball (black). However, the 8 ball (black) may not be pocketed, which would mean loss of the game, unless the player has already pocketed all of their own group of object balls and only needs to pocket the 8 ball (black) to win the game.

Following the single free shot described in 6(a) the player will commence his/her normal visit.

This seems to imply, that you get your free shot and regardless of whether you pot or not the second shot is just a normal shot meaning scenario A would be correct?

[Batch]

Originally posted by andybhoy
Depends on where you are. A is true up here in Newcastle whereas B is true in Slough.

Thats the problem... everyone seems to have their own set of rules and the offical rules don't make it very clear.

[bigbrother]

definately answer A, although, different rules in different parts of the country, also who plays 2 shots on the black ball (after a foul)

[AdamBrunt]

Yes, but

Following the single free shot described in 6(a) the player will commence his/her normal visit.

doesn't say what happens if you pot a ball with your single free shot.

I have always played using option B assuming that the 'second' shot was a bonus shot for potting the first one. If you know what I mean ??

Surely option A is just the normal passage of flow anyway ??

[AdamBrunt]

Originally posted by bigbrother
also who plays 2 shots on the black ball (after a foul)

Nope ... only ever played "always only one shot on the black ball".

But then we also play nominate a pocket for the black ball and stick with that pocket until the game ends ...

[Dunny]

depends if you play 2 shot carry or not

but always one shot on the black and nominate a pocket.

[Horatio]

As everyone else has said, the rules differ wherever you go. You can even have different rules for pubs in the same town :nuts:

You just need to check the table rules in every pub before you start playing.

[Bapapapa]

[A] - would be fine <i>if</i> the local rules gave you the cue ball in hand (to be placed anywhere - a'la 9 ball) after a foul (regardless of whether the white went down or not), otherwise [B] is the rule we've always played by - including a free table on the first shot and (this sometimes varies) two carrying onto the black..

[rawowl]

Our new pool season starts tonight :clap: the girlfriend isnt impressed :rolleyes: we play the B option by the way :D

[MarcusBerry]

Yep we play the 'B' option down this neck of the woods as well... Also play two shots on the black with no pocket nomination.

It does however vary from one pub/area to another so I always clarify what rules are to be played when I play somewhere I haven't played before.

[The Bear]

Round here in Burton-Upon-Trent, our Wednesday league uses A, whereas our Sunday league uses B.

B is often too easy to clear the table with, whereas A can punish you if you if you only have a couple of balls left on the table and they are in a tight position.

However having played both for periods of years at a time I have to say I prefer A.

Why can't they introduce standardised rules for the whole country? There's so many variations and completely different rules depending on where you go. It's mad.

[andybhoy]

Originally posted by Batch
Thats the problem... everyone seems to have their own set of rules and the offical rules don't make it very clear.

That is my point - these rules ARE official. Every area has their own pool association and their own rule.s Thames valley for example let you put the white anywhere behind the line, instead of a D (unless it's changed since I lived in Slough).

The short answer is that you're both right - and both wrong. ;)

[Nujol]

This bit is FACTO!
Old rules and new rules!

B = the old rules, changed a few years ago for the reasons mentioned - i.e. makes it easier

A = the new rules, as were quoted above, that make it a little harder

Some places adopted the new rules, some stuck with the old.

This bit is more my beliefs!
As for other rules, they often depend on the table - e.g. a pool table should not have a D on it, the ball should be behind the line, that's it. However, some tables have a D so people make use of it.

[rawowl]

We must use the D

[Kai]

Ok, here's another one. I've always played only one shot on the black (even after the opponent has fouled). No pocket nomination either.

However, imagine this scenario. only black ball left on the table, it's tight against the bottom cushion, maybe fairly close to either of the bottom pockets (it's unpottable direct into the pocket). The only way to pot it would be to do a flukey double/triple/quadruple shot off loads of cushions.

What happens if the player deliberately fouls because he doesn't want to take the shot on and leave an easy pot? The the other player decides to do the same. ad infinitum.

I suppose it comes down to sportsmanship, but you get some players who would know what that is even if it hit them on the face.

[rawowl]

We can move the white to the D after a foul

[RonnyJ]

A deliberate foul forfeits the game IIRC.

[Mandrill]

I always play B

[BlueDwarf]

I've always played A:-
The first shot you play after a foul is the free shot - if you pot or miss, that is the free shot gone, and then your "proper" go starts.

When taking a free shot, you have the choice of playing the cue ball from where it is, or from behind the line (or in the D if there is one).

As for the black - one shot only.
It's always nominate pocket, but you can change the nominated pocket each turn.

[rawowl]

Lets face it every place as it's own pool rules best bet find a local landlord and ask him.

By the way the girlfriend asks every season where the bye pub is.
:rolleyes:

[FBI]

One rule I've never been clear on: how many pints is it you're supposed to drink?