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Hi,
I'm a fan of films where evil / bad guy (or evil in general) wins and films where there is no hope etc or where it just doesnt end well. Dont know why, but just feel that it adds to the emotion of a film.
As guidance and an example of films like this that I like;
Seven
Arlington Road
To Live and Die in L.A.
Just looking out for others (probably own more than that, but cant think at the moment) - Any suggestions appreciated :thumbs:
Brian Blessed Badger
30-12-2003, 22:49
Brazil
Phil
mystic river is a barrel of laughs with a real feel bad ending
whoops sorry :(
have the spoiler tags broken evilsly?
it's not even like it's an old film we could all be expected to have seen
TestType
30-12-2003, 23:26
Don't know how to hide the letters and besides, I think people should expect spoilers in a thread specifically about movies that don't end well.
Brazil is one of my all time favorites and it has a very bleak ending.
But I'm very surprised that you're a fan of films that don't end well and don't even mention the mother of them all, Requiem for a Dream!
Those two get my highest reccomendations.
Dont be suprised! I actually own both Brazil (criterion edition) and Requiem for a Dream (they dont come much more bleak than Requiem!!) Just forgot about them when doing the thread. :)
Paul Lynock
30-12-2003, 23:42
Se7en.
Sure, John Doe dies in the end- but his goal is complete
abarthman
30-12-2003, 23:50
Originally posted by DCH
have the spoiler tags broken evilsly?
TBH, I thought that spoiler tags were superfluous in this thread, because it was clear from the subject that the thread would name some films "where the bad guy/evil wins".
Unless you just wanted to look at a screen full of spoiler tags, why did you even open the thread? :confused:
Anyway, The Empire Strikes Back is a prime example of a movie where evil triumphs over good. ;)
jordanash
31-12-2003, 00:07
This might require a spoiler but the rightly admired films of the 1970s nearly all had endings where the bad guy/evil wins.
Yeah wasnt sure myself whether to use spoliers or not. The thread heading does make it failry obvious, but then again people do click in anyway (I have been guilty of that myself!! ;) )
Oh and thanks for the suggestions so far people!
pebbleinapond
31-12-2003, 01:25
Night of the Living Dead has a very nihilistic ending
Batesman
31-12-2003, 02:33
Usual Suspects comes to mind...and yes, I'm presuming that everyone here has seen the film and whoever hasn't deserves to be whipped. So there.
visitor-q
31-12-2003, 07:30
How about
Albino Alligator.
A much overlooked film but one that I love.
Art Vanderlay
31-12-2003, 08:43
The Last Seduction
Ghost Dog
31-12-2003, 08:54
Fallen , the devil wins.
The Usual Suspects
Swordfish
Jeepers Creepers
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Creamstick
31-12-2003, 10:40
Originally posted by Ghost Dog
Fallen , the devil wins.
Is it just me, or is Fallen a bit of a rip-off of Wes Craven's Shocker?
Michael Mackenzie
31-12-2003, 10:53
Originally posted by kfung
HannnibalBut Hannibal was the hero!
Originally posted by Boink!
The Wicker Man ?
Boink!
This one depends on your point of view, surely? ;)
To Live And Die In LA...the bad guy didnt win. He was killed at the end :D. Unless of course you were referring to William Petersens partner:dork:
unlucky alf
31-12-2003, 12:00
The Great Silence
Still can't use spoiler tags!
:)
Phone Booth - unless you saw Colin Farrell's character getting what he deserve
Scary Movie :lol:
Resident Evil
Evil Dead
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Originally posted by stefmcd
Still can't use spoiler tags!
:)
put spoiler in these tags
Chinatown - Faye Dunaway is killed, and John Huston gets away with her daughter/sister.
Easy Rider - Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda are killed. Capitalism wins!!
Bonnie & Clyde - I know they're bank robbers, but they are the main characters and you do root for them!
McCabe and Mrs Miller - McCabe is killed. Mrs Miller is smacked out of her head. Another one of those great 'feel good' endings from the early seventies!
mattwakeman
31-12-2003, 13:10
Requiem for a Dream although it is more like bad society wins
Swimming with Sharks
Brazil
Kite (Anime)
Surprised no-one has mentioned
Get Carter, and no, not the Stallone one
Originally posted by KRW
Surprised no-one has mentioned
Get Carter, and no, not the Stallone one
Everyone gets what they deserve in this one don't they?
Ol' Blue Eyes
31-12-2003, 15:02
In the original Rocky, he's beaten by Apollo Creed
The Player - thanks to a daft witness, Tim Robbins gets away with murder
Basic Instinct - the last shot reveals Sharon Stone manipulated Michael Douglas into killing his innocent girlfriend and he's about to get an ice pick surprise
Under Suspicion (the 1991 Liam Neeson film) - Liam was the killer all along and framed his girfriend Laura San Giacomo for the crime
Imposter - not only is Gary Sinise's red herring wife an alien imposter but so is he and he succeeds in his terrorist mission
Carlito's Way - "Remember me, Benny Blanco from the Bronx?"
xraystan
31-12-2003, 15:30
Good call on that last one, Ol' Blue Eyes, I'd forgotten about that. :eek:
How about
Akira? Everyone is destroyed by the explosion in Neo Tokyo, aren't they?
SheepDip
31-12-2003, 15:30
All "Alien" films - I always rooted for the alien;)
Terminator - You know that eventually the machines will nuke the world, no matter how many "from the future" terminators are - well - terminated to supposedly stop it happening (Or is that just the studios making sure there are possibilities for $equel$)
Nicholas and Alexandra - The communists took power at the end.
The Long Good Friday - Suppose the bad guy was defeated by - the bad guy
Thanks for all the suggestions so far - keep up coming! There are certainly a few that I will be checking out :)
Oh and when I said To Live and Die in L.A. it was because Will Petersen dies and his partner becomes what he originaly hated. I know its not a clear cut bad ending, but its not really feel good!
Terminated
31-12-2003, 17:38
Originally posted by SheepDip
All "Alien" films - I always rooted for the alien;)
Terminator - You know that eventually the machines will nuke the world, no matter how many "from the future" terminators are - well - terminated to supposedly stop it happening (Or is that just the studios making sure there are possibilities for $equel$)
Nicholas and Alexandra - The communists took power at the end.
The Long Good Friday - Suppose the bad guy was defeated by - the bad guy
Yeah, but we know that John Connor defeats the machines in the end!
And this is the first time that I've ever used a spoiler tag on here!:D
Posie Flump
31-12-2003, 17:47
Can't get spoiler to work.
For a spolier do the following;
[spoiler] Your text here [\spoiler]
But use a / instead of the \
Originally posted by Dan
put spoiler in these tags
As above
Originally posted by Zebedee
For a spolier do the following;
LoL - I can never spell spoiler either. Always end up typing spolier or spioler and then have to edit!
:p
LOL never even noticed that :D
Walrus Man
01-01-2004, 08:08
Originally posted by Ol' Blue Eyes
In the original Rocky, he's beaten by Apollo Creed I saw a repeat of Room 101 the other day, one of Jonathon Ross's choices was the type of movie where the under-dog battles through impossible odds to eventually win the day. I have no problem with his choice, except that he mentioned Rocky as an example. :nuts:
He really should know better. :nono:
Originally posted by abarthman
TBH, I thought that spoiler tags were superfluous in this thread, because it was clear from the subject that the thread would name some films "where the bad guy/evil wins".
Unless you just wanted to look at a screen full of spoiler tags, why did you even open the thread? :confused:
Anyway, The Empire Strikes Back is a prime example of a movie where evil triumphs over good. ;)
That was the only film I was thinking of when I read this thread!!!!:thumbs:
Aardvark
01-01-2004, 11:43
Okay, I know it's not a film but there were 3 or 4 episodes of Captain Scarlet inwhich the Mysterons won. A kids series, yes, but I reckon it's unusual for a children's program to show the bad guys stuffing the heroes.
SheepDip
01-01-2004, 12:19
I remember an episode of Dangermouse where Baron Silas Greenbank won:thumbs:
Pork Chop Express
01-01-2004, 13:47
In The Mouth Of Madness
Errr...what's the point of spoiler tags in this thread? You have to highlight them to see what the films are anyway (there's no way of telling whether you've seen the film otherwise), and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that the thread is going to do nothing but give away the endings to various films anyway.
:cuckoo: :nuts:
Originally posted by Narshty
Errr...what's the point of spoiler tags in this thread? You have to highlight them to see what the films are anyway (there's no way of telling whether you've seen the film otherwise), and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that the thread is going to do nothing but give away the endings to various films anyway.
:cuckoo: :nuts:
Because people have the choice of looking or not! :cuckoo: :D
I can call narshty a hella-fool cos he won't look in here in case its a film spoiler :lol:
BTW:
Dungeons and Dragons cartoon series - the poor kids kept failing each week to make it home ;)
KeyserSoze
01-01-2004, 15:07
Originally posted by Oggie
Independance Day
:lol:
Originally posted by Narshty
Errr...what's the point of spoiler tags in this thread? You have to highlight them to see what the films are anyway (there's no way of telling whether you've seen the film otherwise), and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that the thread is going to do nothing but give away the endings to various films anyway.
:cuckoo: :nuts:
exactly !!
The Omen & Damien: Omen II
captaineyecatch
01-01-2004, 16:22
Versus
Evil Dead 2
Zombie flesh eaters
The Beyond - They end up trapped in Hell (Great ending!)
Armageddon :D - Earth isnt destroyed and we have to put up with crap Aerosmith tunes for ever more :gag:
Blair Witch 2
Nekromantik - The hero? comits suicide while
masturbating:gag: Great ending :notworthy
Dagon
Ringu
Dracula 2 ascension
Eternal Blood aka Sangre eterna
Flesh for the Beast
Originally posted by john316
[B]Because people have the choice of looking or not! :cuckoo: :D
I can call narshty a hella-fool cos he won't look in here in case its a film spoiler :lol:
:lol:
padayachy3000
02-01-2004, 13:23
Freddy vs Jason
Final Destination 1 & 2
Dark Water
Apt Pupil
Blair Witch Project
Identity
Candyman
Jon Cybernet
02-01-2004, 13:43
Alan Parker's brilliantly creepy Angel Heart - The devil wins and Rourke goes to hell! :thumbs:
In all honesty the use of spoiler tags in this thread has turned it into an unreadable mess, I really don't want to have to highlight every damn post just to see what someone has put, surely in threads like these the only purpose served by spoiler tags is to spoil what could otherwise be an interesting read.
Rollo Tomassi
05-01-2004, 22:47
Starship Troopers
Planescape
06-01-2004, 01:53
Butch Cassidy
Con Air
Great Escape
Matrix Revolutions (in a certain frame of mind, or lack of)
Ravenger
06-01-2004, 07:40
Collossus - The Forbin Project.
Ok, it's a computer, not a 'guy', but the good guys definitely don't win.
dean richardson
06-01-2004, 08:56
natural born killers
SarahByte
06-01-2004, 11:10
The Hole
Originally posted by john316
Because people have the choice of looking or not! :cuckoo: :D
But there's absolutely no way of knowing if you've seen the film or not other than highlighting the spoilers, and if you haven't, you're instantly screwed!
I can call narshty a hella-fool cos he won't look in here in case its a film spoiler :lol:
Heh, lovely stuff, sir! :lol:
Originally posted by dean richardson
natural born killers
I disagree - the media is really the bad guy in that film.
Well, I certainly didnt intend this thread to become a debate about the use of spoiler tags! :) I simply used them in my original post as I just had that feeling that someone would flame me for revealing the tone of the ending to a film they had yet to see :D ......
I did stipulate later on that it did seem a little pointless due to the nature of the thread.............difficult to call though
Anyhow, some good suggestions so far! :thumbs:
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