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Tony Keats
09-10-2001, 15:25
I was really looking forward to this too, an anamorphically enhanced 5.1 version of a cult classic. The disc arrived today and I was quick to give it a spin. Sadly, it only requires three nails to seal the coffin-lid:-

Firstly (and of least importance), there aren't any extras whatsoever. There are some uninteresting trailers, but nothing else.

Secondly (and more worryingly), the 1.85:1 anamorphic image isn't a "see a bit more" affair as the box claims, it's merely a noticeably cropped transfer of the more familiar 1.66:1 ratio master. Now, this isn't a big deal as such because it was always intended to be shown this way and most cinematic screenings would have been cropped in a similar fashion. Thing is, I've grown quite fond of the 1.66:1 framing (featured on BOTH existing NTSC releases) and I'd have preferred an anamorphic 1.66:1 really. Still, it's not the end of the world and I could have happily got used to it, but....

Thirdly, the audio is absolutely disgraceful!. If that sounds like an overstatement, then you obviously haven't heard the damn thing!. The English 5.1 track sounds hideously compressed and is virtually unlistenable. I don't mean that it's under-par/unnatural or just lacking, I mean it's an inhuman sounding catastrophe of "mobile-phone" proportions! (although most telephone conversations are considerably clearer than this track!).

I'm not one to jump to conclusions and my immediate reaction was that my player was malfunctioning. I tried several other discs which all played fine though and only when I re-inserted Robocop did the problem re-appear. I also considered that only this particular disc I received may be faulty, but a quick check of the Spanish and French audio revealed that it's obviously confined to this new english 5.1 mix. The other tracks (all three are 5.1) do sound a bit over-compressed aswell, but nothing like as bad as the default English one.

Anyway, consider this a warning! and if anybody else has this disc, I'd appreciate your feedback. If my disc IS faulty though (and I sincerely doubt that it's just my copy) I need to exchange it pronto.

rfawley
09-10-2001, 16:06
Oh dear, Im glad Ive still got my Robocop Criterion (not that I was going to get rid of it due to it being the director's cut!)

Thanks for posting Tony, I'll watch this one with great interest..:eek:

Cap'n Al
09-10-2001, 16:10
Is this the same edition as the so-called 'special edition' that MGM were supposed to be re-releasing like SOTL? If so, I'm surprised at the lack of extras (although of course an anamorphic transfer in the correct OAR would have been nice as well).

charlie angel
09-10-2001, 16:23
I think MGM were doing bare bones release this year. loaded special edition next year. Sure I read that somewhere?

Paul490
09-10-2001, 17:01
Bad luck to anyone who sold their RoboCop Criterion and were going to get the new release. No, you deserve it really. :D

I'm glad I've still got mine. :p

sdw
09-10-2001, 18:14
The special edition of ROBOCOP (box set with all 3)looks like getting its first look here R2-land on Feb 18 rrp 39.99. From the press ad -

"The box set of all Robo-films contains for the 1st time in UK the Directors cut of Robocop, documentaries, deleted scenes, storyboard comparisions & audio commentaries"

Kit_Taylor
09-10-2001, 18:26
Originally posted by sdw
"The box set of all Robo-films contains for the 1st time in UK the Directors cut of Robocop, documentaries, deleted scenes, storyboard comparisions & audio commentaries"

HOORAY!

dangermouse
09-10-2001, 18:57
The BBFC website has been for months listing the deleted scenes that were certified for the upcoming UK special edition.

One of which is called 'topless pizza scene' - that is something I would really like to see :D

Drel
09-10-2001, 23:20
Originally posted by dangermouse
One of which is called 'topless pizza scene' - that is something I would really like to see :D

A pizza without topping, what kind of sick mother would want to see that!

rfawley
09-10-2001, 23:43
LOL :D ROTL :D Stop Stop it hurts!! :p :p :p

Kit_Taylor
10-10-2001, 00:00
Topless pizza scene?

I'd buy that for a dollar!

cluderi
10-10-2001, 07:50
AHh yes, in infamous italian doughy bread with flour on scene :D :D

RoboCop4
10-10-2001, 08:58
Originally posted by sdw
The special edition of ROBOCOP (box set with all 3)looks like getting its first look here R2-land on Feb 18 rrp 39.99. From the press ad -

"The box set of all Robo-films contains for the 1st time in UK the Directors cut of Robocop, documentaries, deleted scenes, storyboard comparisions & audio commentaries"

I thought the R2 SE was going to be original theatrical release. Oh well, here's hoping...

It would also be nice if they release the uncut version of RoboCop2, as the quality of the R1 disc is rather poor.

niz
10-10-2001, 13:21
does this mean the R2 version will come out before the R1 version... in which case its likely the (later) R1 version will be superior, like Terminator SE.