Ong Bak. Thai action film.

[PlexShaw]

dont forget the jumping/walking over standing people :notworthy
Yeah. I should have really added "etc" to the end of my examples... :thumbs:

[Ricochan38]

dutch kicker ron smoorenberg also in TYG

http://tomyumgoongmovie.com/html/topic.asp?postid=80

[charlie angel]

Play have the Premier Asia release up for preorder at £12.99 for this week only - Ong Bak (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http://www.play.com/play247.asp^QS^pa=hpo^QA^page=title^QA^r=R2^QA^title=653854)

[Goblin]

Play have the Premier Asia release up for preorder at £12.99 for this week only - Ong Bak (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http://www.play.com/play247.asp^QS^pa=hpo^QA^page=title^QA^r=R2^QA^title=653854)
ordered. :)

Do Play charge on dispatch?

[KeyserSoze]

ordered. :)

Do Play charge on dispatch?

Yup only on dispatch.

Im in 2 minds, still want to know if anything is cut.

[wong fei hong]

Amazing film, or rather amazing stunts, fights, chases and lead performance in a duff scenario... But that's beside the point for something like Ong Bak. I enjoyed virtually every moment, and was downright leaping-out-of-my-seat thrilled by some of it. The best action movie I've seen in absolutely ages.

CRUNCHY!

[BizKiTRoAcH]

Yup only on dispatch.

Im in 2 minds, still want to know if anything is cut.

Would you rather own a HK/Thai DVD with loads of unsubbed extras and a mediocre soundtrack over the UK R2 DVD which will have a good selection of subbed extras and a great soundtrack.. for the sake of a small cut? If you look through this thread a bit earlier i'm sure it said the BBFC passed it as uncut.. but I couldnt see this film being cut by much anyway. I dont think i'm a big enough film fan to go for the uncut one for the sake of a minute or so :p

[SIMON ADEBISI]

From the BBFC Site -

ONG-BAK Feature
Film
Classified 06 May, 2005 . Run Time 108m 23s

Subtitled,
Advice for consumers
Concise Contains strong violence and hard drug use

The main spoken language in this work is Thai.
The BBFC has placed this work in the ACTION genre(s).

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 108m 23s.
The running time of this film was calculated from the measured length of 9753+14 ( feet + frames ).

This work was passed with no cuts made

[KeyserSoze]

Would you rather own a HK/Thai DVD with loads of unsubbed extras and a mediocre soundtrack over the UK R2 DVD which will have a good selection of subbed extras and a great soundtrack.. for the sake of a small cut? If you look through this thread a bit earlier i'm sure it said the BBFC passed it as uncut.. but I couldnt see this film being cut by much anyway. I dont think i'm a big enough film fan to go for the uncut one for the sake of a minute or so :p

yeah but it would obviously depend on which cut was submitted to the BBFC. Will this be the Luc Besson edit or not ?

EDIT: seems the US cut is 101 min.

What the heck, ill might as well preorder. Got nothing to lose at this stage.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

I thought it said on this thread already that it was the original thai cut.

[mr_woo]

yeah but it would obviously depend on which cut was submitted to the BBFC. Will this be the Luc Besson edit or not ?

EDIT: seems the US cut is 101 min.

What the heck, ill might as well preorder. Got nothing to lose at this stage.


It is the original thai cut but with just the music track changed. And we're not talking about dodgy rap music either, some very nice instrumental music which suits the film perfectly. I think the music is much better than the thai versions music but hope they at least give a choice on the HKL dvd. ( tbh i can't say i'll be too bothered even though on principle they should be)

I have seen both the thai version and the uk version and they are exactly the same film content wise.

[KeyserSoze]

thanks, i went for it anyway :D

Oct is too far away though !

[Ricochan38]

i thought that headbutts and things like skull crshing elbows are forbidden in the uk?

[mr_woo]

i thought that headbutts and things like skull crshing elbows are forbidden in the uk?


They aren't forbidden as such, it's just that they usually bump the rating of a film up to a 15/18 certificate. Most distributers like to try and avoid this if its a film they want to make a lot of money from. A good example of this is The Matrix which had its headbutts removed to stop getting an 18 certificate - hence more cash at the box office.

[Boink!]

A good example of this is The Matrix which had its headbutts removed to stop getting an 18 certificate - hence more cash at the box office.
Which is why I bought the R4 dvd which has all the headbutts included.

[Ricochan38]

ong bak will get an 18 rating then with its headcrushing elbows...

[Boink!]

ong bak will get an 18 rating then with its headcrushing elbows...

That phrase just makes me grin. :D

I think I'll have to watch the (thai) DVD again this evening.

[Welshlad]

Not sure if its been mentioned (not read all 14 pages) but Play.com have this for pre-order at a respectable £12.99

[Ricochan38]

tony jaa' s next project, another great one coming up !

http://www.kaijushakedown.com/2005/05/next_tony_jaa_p.html

[BizKiTRoAcH]

sounds good :D

[Ricochan38]

maybe i will buy the r1 dvd also, just for the extra;s

Ong-Bak DVD (R1) in August 2005-06-02
Fox Home Entertainment have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Ong Bak: The Thai Warrior for 30th August 2005 with the following features:

* 1.85:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
* Thai DD5.1 Surround
* English DD2.0 Stereo
* English and Spanish subtitles
* Music video featuring Tony Jaa
* Making of the music video
* The 8 movements of Muay Thai
* Behind-the-scenes stunt footage
* Tony Jaa performance at French screening
* Tony Jaa performance at NBA game
* Promotional video featuring The RZA
* Trailer featuring The RZA
* Additional Trailers

[BizKiTRoAcH]

some of that stuff can be downloaded from tonyjaa.org, the american trailers were crap and the rest will probably be on the UK R2 :p

[loo-king]

Ong-Bak (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://dvdimport.com/product.asp^QS^productid=18846^QA^cstd=2098499512)

R1 version due 28 June?

This looks an excellent price. Anyone know if CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://cd-wow.at/thedvdforums)
are selling this?

Searched Playusa and Loaded247 and they dont list this? How comes? Its a R1 DVD with a June release so surely it should be listed?

[Ricochan38]

some of that stuff can be downloaded from tonyjaa.org, the american trailers were crap and the rest will probably be on the UK R2 :p


I know a lot is on tonyjaa.org, i visit that site a few times every week, but i just thought it would be nice to have it on a dvd, and if a dvd is r1 or r2 doesn;t matter to me..


And cd-wow will be selling all versions i am sure....

[BizKiTRoAcH]

I know a lot is on tonyjaa.org, i visit that site a few times every week, but i just thought it would be nice to have it on a dvd, and if a dvd is r1 or r2 doesn;t matter to me..


And cd-wow will be selling all versions i am sure....

Yeah but what I meant was the R1 had some crappy hip-hop soundtrack whereas the R2 had a "real" soundtrack and was uncut. I think the R2 would be the better investment

[Ricochan38]

Yeah but what I meant was the R1 had some crappy hip-hop soundtrack whereas the R2 had a "real" soundtrack and was uncut. I think the R2 would be the better investment


Ok your right, i dont want that hiphop cut version... :thumbs:

And since i have already seen it many times, i can wait for the best version..

Talking about the movie makes me want to go watch some scenes again this weekend :)

[marshy2004]

Australian release featuring International and Original versions for GBP 11.99 is out before the UK release and available here: CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://cd-wow.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http://www7.cd-wow.com/review_2.php^QS^product_code=19471)

[Mattvert11]

Australian release featuring International and Original versions for GBP 11.99 is out before the UK release and available here: CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://cd-wow.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http://www7.cd-wow.com/review_2.php^QS^product_code=19471)
This looks like a super package. Have pre-ordered immediately.... :clap:

[BeauBrummie]

Just ordered mine !!.... :eek:

[Goblin]

but wouldn't the R2 version be the best of both, it's Uncut with a good soundtrack.

[RealAkira]

Australian release featuring International and Original versions for GBP 11.99 is out before the UK release and available here: CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://cd-wow.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http://www7.cd-wow.com/review_2.php^QS^product_code=19471)
Just $15.95 via this link (http://forum.cinefacts.de/showthread.php?t=127514&p=3105178)

[Ricochan38]

Luc Besson Lost Tom Yum Goong Distributing Right

20 May 2005
All Rights Reserved

pic from Screen at Cannes


Cannes – Despite many earlier announcements, the long-awaited Tom Yum Goong failed to be screened at Cannes, as the film was still in the editing room during the festival. In its place, the production studio showed the film’s 20-minute-long clip featuring a breathtaking fight scene in which Tony Jaa tackled 30 villains simultaneously. Other trailers that debut in Cannes included Bandit Thongdee’s supernatural action flick, The Mercury Man (Ai-Lek-Lhai) and Manop Udomdej’s serpentine action-fantasy film, Boa.

However, the most surprising news about Tom Yum Goong was not the screening delay but the unexpected change of its international distributors. EuropaCorp of the French director and producer Luc Besson had secured the right to distribute this first version of Thai action film in Europe, North America, Australia, and New Zealand before Cannes Film Festival. But, at Cannes, we learned that TF1, another French distributing firm, would distribute Tom Yum Goong in France, while Britain ’s Contender Film Group secured the distributing right for the rest of Europe. Asian distributors varied for each country.

Golden Network Asia, the Hong Kong-based distributor of all Sahamongkol Films, suggested me to inquire directly into the Sahamongkol Film. Unfortunately, most of them had returned to Thailand and the last remaining representative was missing in action at the time of writing.

http://www.thaicinema.org/canneseng_13luc.asp

[BizKiTRoAcH]

Good to see Premier Asia (part of the Contender Entertainment Group) got the right to TYG! :D

[Ricochan38]

Yes that means we will not get a hip hop version this time :clap:

[Tob]

I watched Ong Bak tonight - terrific stuff. Nice to see something a bit fresh, the choreography was so much more exciting then the stale old crap you get from hollywood. I must have said "Ouch" out loud about 25 times! I hope Tony Ja does well and doesn't go the Jet Li Hollywood 'Rap Fu' route.

[KeyserSoze]

I think Ong Bak is tad too long though.

And ...

i cant believe that dude died at the end !! Nooooo : :cry:

[Tob]

i cant believe that dude died at the end !! Nooooo : :cry:

I thought the same! I was expecting him to wake up in a comedy manner. Quite harsh really!

[KeyserSoze]

I thought the same! I was expecting him to wake up in a comedy manner. Quite harsh really!

yeah especially since he was trapped under the buddha !

I demand the 'Cheesy Wotsit Cut' !! :D

[Boink!]

I think there was an alternative ending where he lived, not sure if it was on the Thai DVD or not.

[Goblin]

The only part I didn't like at the ending was

the bad guy coming back after Jaa had done a superb elbow drop onto his skull, it took away the power of that move since it didn't kill him :(

[Ricochan38]

TYG trailer is in the thai cinema's now :-)

[Boink!]

The only part I didn't like at the ending was

the bad guy coming back after Jaa had done a superb elbow drop onto his skull, it took away the power of that move since it didn't kill him :(

Yeah, but (no, but..) the bad guy was so pumped full of steroids/bad chemicals/evil that he wouldn't stay down until he was completely destoyed. That's how bad he was. Any other minor henchman would have been dead after that blow to the head.

[Saber]

How does he not hit his funny bone when he elbows people?!

[Chibouk]

How does he not hit his funny bone when he elbows people?!

Cos he's rock hard... that's why! ;) :lol:

[Niceguygeoff]

I enjoyed Ong Bak, but I really can't see why people have been raving about it. Sure, the action is hard-hitting, but I can only see someone ramming their elbow into other people's heads (complete with big comedy hair to hide the pads that surely prevented many concussions) so many times before it gets boring. Maybe it's because I'm used to watching such 'genuine' Asian kung-fu movies and not just tired American wire-fu/rap-fu that Ong Bak just didn't excite me as it has done for others. But Kung Fu Hustle was fantastic :p

[Ricochan38]

I enjoyed Ong Bak, but I really can't see why people have been raving about it. Sure, the action is hard-hitting, but I can only see someone ramming their elbow into other people's heads (complete with big comedy hair to hide the pads that surely prevented many concussions) so many times before it gets boring. Maybe it's because I'm used to watching such 'genuine' Asian kung-fu movies and not just tired American wire-fu/rap-fu that Ong Bak just didn't excite me as it has done for others. But Kung Fu Hustle was fantastic :p


I am also a big fan of the kung fu movies since the seventees but u are forgetting probably that genuine asian kung fu movies are the ones that introduced the use of wire fu and never hit anyone for real...

And i enjoyed kung fu hustle for its SC comedy, but the fighting in that is ridiculous, and the same as u can see in those crappy american movies nowadays..

[Niceguygeoff]

I am also a big fan of the kung fu movies since the seventees but u are forgetting probably that genuine asian kung fu movies are the ones that introduced the use of wire fu and never hit anyone for real...

And i enjoyed kung fu hustle for its SC comedy, but the fighting in that is ridiculous, and the same as u can see in those crappy american movies nowadays..
Eh? One of my favourites is genre classic Once Upon A Time In China 2 which features a ton of wire work that looks amazing, not like the TIRED American stuff that I mentioned. And in kung fu movies people "never hit anyone for real"? You obviously haven't seen Eastern Condors...

Yes, the action in Kung Fu Hustle is cartoony and over the top, but it's carried off with a crazy style and zany humour that is beyond the shallow bubble-gum coloured excesses of western stuff like Charlie's Angels. And it's this comparative lack of humour and poor characterisation that sours Ong Bak for me; the main character is bloody good at Muay Thai and needs to get the head of a statue back - but what else is there to know about him?

Tony Jaa can fight with his legs on fire (in what is a ridiculously over-hyped scene anyway), but if I don't give a **** about his character or the lowlifes around him then what good is that?

[Ricochan38]

i have seen eastern condors off course and all other samo and YB movies, jet li movies, jackie chan movies etc etc. and about all SB movies also, and never saw those movies as ones with superb caractar plots also...
My fav scene in ong bak isnt even the fighting, its the walking/jumping over people and the chase..

[Niceguygeoff]

i have seen eastern condors off course and all other samo and YB movies, jet li movies, jackie chan movies etc etc. and about all SB movies also, and never saw those movies as ones with superb caractar plots also...
You've got me there. But for me it's got to the point where the mere presence of Jackie, Sammo, Yuen Biao etc really lifts a film, so even if the story is poor (and it usually is ;)) there's still some enjoyment to be gleaned from it. I just didn't get a lot from Ong-Bak because it featured not only a bland lead character, but bland lead actor as well.

My fav scene in ong bak isnt even the fighting, its the walking/jumping over people and the chase..
That scene was good, and a wonderful display of Jaa's physicality (even if the crappy editing did spoil the pacing), but the one that I enjoyed the most was his fight with the big Aussie bloke. If ever there was an award for most OTT hairstyles in a martial arts movie, Ong Bak would win it.

[Ricochan38]

Today i saw the new TYG trailer here in bangkok, wowww it looks great on the big screen :notworthy big posters also everywhere, i will try and see if i can get one or two, especially the one where tony is fighting with that big bald guy...

[Purpledump]

I don't buy posters, but I just have to have that same poster Ricochan is talking about. Any decent places over the internet?? And yes, TYG looks amazing.

Ong Bak showed how the typical Kung-Fu "tip-toeing over people's heads" could be based on something real... well, TYG shows that "Ninja-Gaiden-wall-running" isn't far off the truth either. ('scuse the crappy references, but it's the easiest way to describe it). Simply wow!

[The Bear]

Am I right in saying the CDWOW version of Ong-Bak with both cuts doesn't have the Bey Logan commentary that's on the recently announced R2 Premier Asia version?

The rest of the extras look pretty similar.

[odd]

im pretty sure the cdwow version is this aussie release (no beyt logan) http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57723

and the premier asia R2 is this one http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57724

[The Bear]

You're right, but I just wanted to make sure the Aussie R0 was without the commentary before I decided which one to get.

[Ricochan38]

im pretty sure the cdwow version is this aussie release (no beyt logan) http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57723

and the premier asia R2 is this one http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57724


cdwow is selling both versions, and i saw there is also a dutch release coming out, not sure now anymore which one to buy :doh:

[Jez]

Tought it would be obvious the one with original un-cut version on it. All others have the Besson cut dont they?

[KeyserSoze]

Apparently the UK version is uncit but has a different/updated soundtrack.

[The Bear]

cdwow is selling both versions, and i saw there is also a dutch release coming out, not sure now anymore which one to buy :doh:I'm only seeing the R0 still on CDWOW?

[Ricochan38]

I'm only seeing the R0 still on CDWOW?

i think if u look on all cd-wow sites u will find it somewhere, its not on the english site

[niz]

just saw the premier asia version of ong-bak and was expecting it to be the luc besson cut, or the one with RZA on the soundtrack, but it wasnt!

there is a "exclusive brand new orchestral soundtrack composed especially for the UK theatrical and DVD release" (and obtrusive credits for it imposed over the opening), but its hip-hop-free and sounds pretty authentic, al5though i dont know what was wrong with the original score?

apparenly in the luc besson cut the "sister" who is OD'd by Don only appears in one scene, in this PA version she also gets her earlier scene where she argues with her sister in an alley.

anybody know of other differences between the multiple versions? are the americans getting the same release as the french? dont PA/HKL normally release "international cuts"? why not this time?

[BizKiTRoAcH]

Well, There was nothing "wrong" with the original score.. the PA one is better though. The americans get the same crappy release as the french as far as I know.. and PA didnt get the international cut because it sucks ass ;)

[Jimmyboy]

and PA didnt get the international cut because it sucks ass ;)
Makes a change though don't it. ;)

[Kev3]

I got my aussie release version yesterday..
didnt realise that they were gonna squeeze both versions on the same disc!
is it me or has this resulted in poor quality print?

[RealAkira]

I got my aussie release version yesterday..
didnt realise that they were gonna squeeze both versions on the same disc!
is it me or has this resulted in poor quality print?
I hope not, mine is winging it's way towards me.

[Dagada]

The print for the Thai version has a bit of print wear from time to time, but it's by no means horrific.

Anyone else been having problems with the extras on disk 2, especially the documentary on martial arts?

[Bleddyn H Williams]

I got my aussie release version yesterday..
didnt realise that they were gonna squeeze both versions on the same disc!
is it me or has this resulted in poor quality print?

Eh? I thought this was a 2-disc set? Did they bung both versions of the film on one disc and let the extras enjoy a disc all to themselves?

[Dagada]

The latter, BHW. The extras are having a special party all on their own.

[Kev3]

Eh? I thought this was a 2-disc set? Did they bung both versions of the film on one disc and let the extras enjoy a disc all to themselves?

YES! this is exactly what they have done!!!
The picture isn't 'horrific' on a 32" widescreen, but i'm sure when i watch this at the wkend on my projector the compression will be obvious!
Might end up selling this dvd to get a higher quality one, haven't seen the international version yet so cant make the decision yet..

[Ricochan38]

are the tony jaa exibition shows still on it?

[Bleddyn H Williams]

Crumbs! That's not the way I'd have done it. I fully expected a film on each disc with the extras spread out. Surely that's what most of us expected, really.

I have a 53" so who knows what it'll look like!

I wouldn't get too into getting rid of this version yet. Let them all come out and the dust settle before throwing money around. In the various forums I've read, the US doesn't have a killer picture, and the UK apparently looked rough in the theatres. Maybe this film will never look that great.

Also - this set offers Thai version, and the Besson version. The Premier Asia will offer the Thai with their exclusive soundtrack. As I don't think the extras will overlap, I suspect many fans will end up with both discs, and three different versions of the film in their collections!

[RomerojpgX]

Yup there are compression problems sadly :( the begining of the film can be blocky at times for my eyes in the darker scenes , but on the whole its ok, just if it was not compressed so much the picture could have been better and the dirty print wasnt too hot either, massive black hairs and lines on the print didnt sit well for me.

Its the sound I hated, the punches and kicks sounded awful, like they were hitting soft pads, it ruined any impact the blows once had when I saw it in the cinema a few months back :(

[BizKiTRoAcH]

In the various forums I've read, the US doesn't have a killer picture, and the UK apparently looked rough in the theatres. Maybe this film will never look that great.

Also - this set offers Thai version, and the Besson version. The Premier Asia will offer the Thai with their exclusive soundtrack. As I don't think the extras will overlap, I suspect many fans will end up with both discs, and three different versions of the film in their collections!

Well, Not sure about Picture quality, but the US one has the crappy cut and crappy soundtrack. The UK one DID look rough in cinemas as I saw it, but I watched the Rental DVD last week and the picture is fine.. and the new soundtrack is excellent. I would definately say get the UK R2 PA version as it is easily the best one available. However it wont suit you if you want it to be "original" and have the original thai score. No idea what you should get, but the PA score is better than the thai score.. but eh.. some people will want the thai.

[RealAkira]

Just received my aussie two-discer. For the moment I'll leave the wrapping intact though, untill the verdict about the picture/audio quality is clear.

[Goblin]

A Question for anyone who watched the UK Cinema Release...

when Tony Jaa fights for the first time and knocks down his opponent in one move, does he do a overhead kick?

[Kev3]

Watched the international version at the wkend, quality of the dvd isnt as bad as i first thought and it didnt spoil the films for me. The Thai version looks better, but i haven't watched it yet.
Extras disc works fine, but was disappointed not to find an alternate ending on it as listed on the cdwow site.. any1 else noticed this?

[Summerisle]

Have to say I bought this for someone else and going from posts and the only other "Asian Eye" dvd I have, the original Godzilla, I would say that they do no restorative work at all on the prints they use. The original Godzilla was pretty bad but the U.S. version was a tad cleaner. Don't think I'll be bothering with "Asian Eye" again, unless it's something pretty unique, anytime soon.

Think Premier Asia actually put some effort into the cinema and dvd releases; they didn't need to put it into cinemas they could have saved money and went straight to dvd.

[dazza001]

Bought this (France R2) for 9€ the other day and just got round to watching it... quite enjoyed it - disc came with a choice of Thai 5.1 or French 5.1/DTS. Plus some tasty-looking extras to tackle when I have the time...

[goonerforever]

:doh: I don't wanna sound like a retard but why was the bad guy in the cave at the end building (or destroying?) a massive replica of the Ong Bak head???? Any help appreciated as it's just been bugging me since I watched this film.

[Tob]

I presumed he was just stealing another buddha head and all the scafolding was because the buddha was so big.

[RealAkira]

DVD Heaven have added the australian edition to their comparison chart:
http://web12.dvd2web.de/ongbak/ongbak.htm

Looks like the international cut is ok (on par with the other releases), but the thai cut is a bit soft (though, comparable to the Thai release). I guess this conforms that the R4 version is the best one for the moment!

[Ricochan38]

DVD Heaven have added the australian edition to their comparison chart:
http://web12.dvd2web.de/ongbak/ongbak.htm

Looks like the international cut is ok (on par with the other releases), but the thai cut is a bit soft (though, comparable to the Thai release). I guess this conforms that the R4 version is the best one for the moment!


But the r4 is actually r0

[ForcedV]

What's the cheapest price for the upcomming R2 HKL/PA release ?

Also, is the Canadian dvd and extras the same as the US release ?

[bruce-leroy]

Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums) or CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561) are your best bet just now for PA version.

Or wait until it goes down in the sales, or on classifieds forums/eBay (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-582776-5826355) a few months down the line.

[willncc]

:doh: I don't wanna sound like a retard but why was the bad guy in the cave at the end building (or destroying?) a massive replica of the Ong Bak head???? Any help appreciated as it's just been bugging me since I watched this film.

Just watched this last night, and thought it was pretty good, but I think (and emphasise think),

that after the head falls off, there is a hint of gold - perhaps the head is gold covered with stone....after all the boss bloke was collecting treasures but wasn't interested in the Ong Bak head

[goonerforever]

Sounds good enough for me willncc. Makes enough sense for it not to ruin the film on its multiple viewings. Top film. :notworthy

[malcy]

Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums) or CD-Wow! (UK) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561) are your best bet just now for PA version.

Or wait until it goes down in the sales, or on classifieds forums/eBay (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-582776-5826355) a few months down the line.

Its only £11.95 at Choices so even less than CD-Wow
choices (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://tracker.tradedoubler.com/click^QS^p=18513^QA^a=60823^QA^g=228655^QA^url=http%3A//www.choicesdirect.com/templates/product.asp%3FProductGuid%3D673651%26cm_re%3Dn%2fa*14*Homepage%20-%20PreOrder%20Chart)

[bruce-leroy]

Cool, didn't know about choices. :)

[Ricochan38]

Its only £11.95 at Choices so even less than CD-Wow
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at cdwow u get an extra discount so that makes it cheaper ;)

[bruce-leroy]

Yeah, I don't think you are allowed to mention, or even hint about that on here though. ;) That's why I didn't, and edited my post.

[Alan b]

at cdwow u get an extra discount so that makes it cheaper ;)

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[Ricochan38]

u can see the commercial now for promotion for thai fruit, where tony jaa fights some guys (ron smoorenberg) on

http://www.tonyjaa.org/

[ralph wiggum]

Does anyone know if the new UK release will have the original soundtrack as well, or just this new one composed specially for the UK? Also, will it be the longer version?

Cheers. :thumbs:

[bruce-leroy]

It will be uncut, but I believe will only have the Premier Asia soundtrack. No bad thing, as the original is carp.

[rezabelady]

:doh: I don't wanna sound like a retard but why was the bad guy in the cave at the end building (or destroying?) a massive replica of the Ong Bak head???? Any help appreciated as it's just been bugging me since I watched this film.

The head is being made for sale as the bad guy is a dealer in religous artifacts. The family of a friend of mine help to make stone and wooden buddha statues, etc (although not quite as big!) and making them look antique as they can make a lot of money selling it to foreigners. Actual antique statues like the bad guy steals would be priceless and probably not be permitted to leave the country.

[ralph wiggum]

Thanks for the info bruce :thumbs:

[SIMON ADEBISI]

:clap: Play (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http%3A//www.play.com/) has informed me my copy is on the way. Im so happy.

[ForcedV]

Anyone got the Steel Cased limited edition from Canada ?

Is the packaging cool or what ?

[ForcedV]

I have been watching action movies from old school like Knockabout and The Victim to modern day classics like Pedicab Driver and Dragons Forever, but Ong Bak ranks as the best of the best.

As for the international cut (Besson edit), I think it's great to have a choice between these different music scores.
The above score is punchier and more uplifting compared to the Thai score.

I can't wait to hear the new HKL version. I hope the bass for the kicks and elbows have been increased.

[Marv]

Got my R2 PA dvd through the post this morning.

[Bleddyn Williams]

Share you opinions as soon as you can Marv! And do you have any of the other versions to compare them to?

[Grimmy]

I got the premier asia version this morning too, from a brief glance I would say the Picture Quality was better than the Australian Release, but I was a tad dissapointed with the new soundtrack from what I have heard so far, doesnt seem as good as the original in places

[djnation]

I've just finished watching the Premier Asia copy of this tonight. I haven't seen any other version but the music didn't seem out of place at all and felt natural. The one point I would stress is that the action is absolutely awesome. Every fight gave seemed to give me an adreneline rush and every move felt (and looked) real. For the moment this is the king of action/martial arts movies, i can only hope that it's success makes hollywood think twice about using wirework for every single film it produces that includes a fight scene.

Many reviews I have seen draw attention to the fact that a lot of the moves were repeated over and over again in the fight scenes. While I noticed this a few times throughout the film (and because I'd read so much about it I was looking), it didn't happen that often and didn't affect the flow of the fights at all (there is more of this type of editing in any Van Damme movie).

[Rich101]

Anyone got the Steel Cased limited edition from Canada ?

Is the packaging cool or what ?

I Do :notworthy along with a tinned Donnie Darko Collectors Edition as I have just come back from there. Unfortunately my DK Digital 500 player isn't playing the Ong Bak Disc :brickwall will have to give it another go later. I presume this is the RCE protection thing being a pain.

If worse comes to worse and it never plays on my player which is the best other version to get,Does the English release have both cuts on it?

EDIT: I presumed this was just the limited early region 1 version, is it only avaliable in Canada then? In which case, sweet :D

[saltysam]

the english dub on the premier asia version :lol: comedy gold. :notworthy

[bruce-leroy]

examples? ;) I'm still waiting for mine from CDSL(W)OW. :(

;)

[Marv]

the english dub on the premier asia version :lol: comedy gold. :notworthy

Agreed giving people English acents is genius. :nuts:

[Ricochan38]

I've just finished watching the Premier Asia copy of this tonight. I haven't seen any other version but the music didn't seem out of place at all and felt natural. The one point I would stress is that the action is absolutely awesome. Every fight gave seemed to give me an adreneline rush and every move felt (and looked) real. For the moment this is the king of action/martial arts movies, i can only hope that it's success makes hollywood think twice about using wirework for every single film it produces that includes a fight scene.

Many reviews I have seen draw attention to the fact that a lot of the moves were repeated over and over again in the fight scenes. While I noticed this a few times throughout the film (and because I'd read so much about it I was looking), it didn't happen that often and didn't affect the flow of the fights at all (there is more of this type of editing in any Van Damme movie).


in tom yum goong they stopped doing this because people complained about it....personally i did like it...

[ForcedV]

Damn ! I loved seeing the action scenes in slow-mo from different angles.
That's one of the reasons Ong Bak is such a thrill.

I just saw the Premier Asia dvd and it's clearly the best version to get.

I have the excellent R4 and the Original thai and even the HK dvd, but the Premier Asia picture quality is the best.
The fight scene in the cave with the sticks and tonfa's is so clean, i can finally appreciate it and don't have to strain my eyes trying to see what's going on.

The new score is also very good too.

An excellent dvd and extras.

[Ricochan38]

and on 1 november TYG !!!

[darrenjg77]

Can you confirm that the PA version is uncut, as I read one review stating it was the Besson international version. It also complained about synch problems with the sound.

[Jimmyboy]

Can you confirm that the PA version is uncut, as I read one review stating it was the Besson international version. It also complained about synch problems with the sound.
It has a PAL running time of 104mins. Haven't watched the dvd myself but it appears to be uncut.


This was taken from the R4 PAL review which we know is uncut -
"Disc One, with the two features, is a Dual Layer disc with the Thai Uncut version of the film (104:00) on Layer One and the Theatrical version of the film (100:41) on Layer Two. Subsequently, there is no layer change".

[thebigboss]

the english dub on the premier asia version :lol: comedy gold. :notworthy

It really is, isn't it. It's like watching Euro Trash :clap:

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Watched this last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Some of the elbow/head interactions were exceedingly painful looking.

[platform14]

Can the dubbing be removed from the R2?

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Use the audio button on your remote to find the original language track.

[LordoftheDance]

I watched this last night too, Simon. Thought it was excellent. Tony Jaa rocks and kicks butt (elbows head?) with the best of them. :thumbs:

[Captain_Howdy666]

Owning both the original Thai and the new PA versions of Ong Bak, there are two edits that I've noticed, both right at the end. The first is when the comedy sidekick (I forget his name) gets his arm broken and the second is when Ting breaks the leg of the guy in retaliation for breaking comedy sidekick guy's arm.

There's nothing on the BBFC site about this, so I can only assume the print was submitted with the edits already in place.

[Jimmyboy]

Owning both the original Thai and the new PA versions of Ong Bak, there are two edits that I've noticed, both right at the end. The first is when the comedy sidekick (I forget his name) gets his arm broken and the second is when Ting breaks the leg of the guy in retaliation for breaking comedy sidekick guy's arm.

There's nothing on the BBFC site about this, so I can only assume the print was submitted with the edits already in place.
Both these scenes are in the PA release.

[Tyler Durden]

My original Thai copy arrived the other day, I ordered it without realising it doesn't have English subs :( Will this still be watchable without knowing wtf people are saying ?

[Captain_Howdy666]

Both these scenes are in the PA release.


You're right too, I dunno why I didn't notice it the first time I watched the PA release.

[bruce-leroy]

My original Thai copy arrived the other day, I ordered it without realising it doesn't have English subs :( Will this still be watchable without knowing wtf people are saying ?

Yes.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

My original Thai copy arrived the other day, I ordered it without realising it doesn't have English subs :( Will this still be watchable without knowing wtf people are saying ?

The story is cack. Just kick back and enjoy the fun.

[Ricochan38]

My original Thai copy arrived the other day, I ordered it without realising it doesn't have English subs :( Will this still be watchable without knowing wtf people are saying ?


I think 90% of the people that watched this movie the first time watched it without the subs :thumbs:

[saltysam]

anyone in the liverpool area after the pa version cash converters in london road had about 6 sealed copies £10 each still there this afternoon.

[Boink!]

I think 90% of the people that watched this movie the first time watched it without the subs :thumbs:
I did and it really didn't matter, you could work out the story well enough and once the fighting started, you weren't watching for dialogue.

[BizKiTRoAcH]

anyone in the liverpool area after the pa version cash converters in london road had about 6 sealed copies £10 each still there this afternoon.

:eek: thats a good price. I dont have £10 to spare though :(

[platform14]

I suppose the story reflects the cultural norms but the urban setting makes it more accessable for western audiences. Plus the fight scenes are kool.
I watched it with subs as it was from Blockbuster, and I don't believe you could remove them. It holds itself up as a break from mainstream anyway!

[new forms]

its taken a loooooooooooooong time for me to get to see this flick but finally got to watch it yesterday,

while waiting for the PA release ive tried to keep away from threads like this on the whole so i didnt have unreachable expectations (i got mullered by this with Versus - i'd been reading threads praising it for over a year and when i did watch it i couldnt been more bored by it ),

the film generally lives up to the hype and Tony Jaa is a bad man but i was expecting whupass from begining to end and it turns out that the action is not quite full on for the first 28mins or so,

what i can say is that no-one hits harder than Jaa and i would love for him to get involved in a project of the quality of Eastern Condors or Fist of Legend.

(the only problem he's got is that he needs to 'macho-up' a bit as he has a softer voice than michael jackson)

[Cirrus888]

He speaks like a right woolly woofter but I wouldn't say that to his face despite me being more than 2 foot taller than him ... I've seen how high he can jump and what he can do with his elbows! :nuts:

[GMS2502]

Are all the fight scenes in this film real ?

I was amazed at some of the stuff shown, especially as the film is advertised as using no wires or computer aided images.

Was Tony Jaa really doing some of those stunts unaided ?

[nwgarratt]

Excellent film.

I just have one question regarding a bit at the end. I will spoiler it for now as it is the ending.

It looked like the guy in the wheelchair stood up to fight Tony Jaa after he fell from the wheelchair? Was he faking his injury?

Looks like I need to watch the scene again.

[BizKiTRoAcH]

yes. everything was unaided, all of them are real (to an extent). For example, in the fight scene when he is fighting the guy with afro, I didnt notice the first 30 times I watched it but on the 31st time, I noticed when he jumps up and knees him in the chest, its obviously another guy and he's a bit "bigger" than the other guy, which is obviously a bit of padding under the clothes.

[BizKiTRoAcH]

And here are some screencaps :P

Here you can see he's quite a skinny old chap..
http://www.bizkitroach666.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/1.jpg
http://www.bizkitroach666.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/2.jpg

And here he has put on an extra few pounds!

http://www.bizkitroach666.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3.jpg
http://www.bizkitroach666.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/4.jpg


Edit: its hard to tell from the pics but in the last one, and a lot of other clips, its a stunt double that doesnt look very japanese.

[ForcedV]

These stunt men took a lot of punishment in the movie, and you can't expect them to do this kind of action without padding.
As for stunt doubles, Tony Jaa did all this own stunts, but the bad guys were doubled and unless you spend your free time pausing and checking each frame of the movie, it's not really visible.

A truely awesome movie .........I Love It !!!!!!!!!!!

[BizKiTRoAcH]

Tony Jaa did all this own stunts, but the bad guys were doubled and unless you spend your free time pausing and checking each frame of the movie, it's not really visible.

Yeah, I only spotted this one guy on the 14th viewing :p

[Ricochan38]

Yeah, I only spotted this one guy on the 14th viewing :p


:notworthy :thumbs:

[kanjar]

I ended up getting the r2 premier asia version of the movie yesterday but I was disappointed to see that it did not have the original soundtrack from when i first watch the film on a bootleg dvd i obtained a few years back.. Anyone know if there is a retail copy which has that same soundtrack on and has english subs...

[deftone666]

Just in case anyones is interested, this is £6.99 in Plays sale.

[saltysam]

I ended up getting the r2 premier asia version of the movie yesterday but I was disappointed to see that it did not have the original soundtrack from when i first watch the film on a bootleg dvd i obtained a few years back.. Anyone know if there is a retail copy which has that same soundtrack on and has english subs... the austrailian region 4.

[fivebyfive]

Brought it for 6.99 from the play.com sale and really enjoyed it, way better than the overrated Kung fu hustle. After watching the film in thai, I put on the english dub after ting wins his 1st first in the club and the voice actors are so crap, it's more painful than the leg snapping bit :eek:

[cedge]

Finally, just seen this film and what can I say, one of the best martial art films I've ever seen, extreme violence. Looking forward to the Warrior King now (Tom yum goong). Cant Wait!!!