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Following on from the CSI/CSI: Miami crossover episode (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157152) tonight we have the first of the new spin-off series:
CSI: Miami
Golden Parachute
American drama series focusing on the work of the Miami forensics department. The CSI unit work on a jet crash in the Everglades ....
Kim Delaney (from NYPD Blue) is in it according to Digiguide! Not sure if its as a one-off or a regular role.
Followed at 9.55pm by the new series of:
Law & Order
Cherished. Series 9, episode 1
Police drama series set in New York. The investigation of a baby's death exposes ....
No more Jamie Ross in L&O though :(
Thornastor
01-02-2003, 13:22
Kim is in only 10 episodes.
Radiohead
01-02-2003, 15:49
:norty:
Originally posted by 8-]
Followed at 9.55pm by the new series of:
Law & Order
Cherished. Series 9, episode 1
that's an old series of L&O, already shown on Sky One just finishing the 24-25 episode run tonight. series 9 is new to terrestrial though.
the last episode of L&O series 9 is on Sky One tonight if you want to catch it.
at 2.20am :lol: !
must be some deal they did with Five to bury it in the schedules.
looking forward to CSI: Miami though.
any one got news of when Special Victims Unit is back?
Bump as CSI Miami is about to start :clap:
raymondlin
01-02-2003, 21:25
I can't get CH5 :( :mad:
threadkiller
01-02-2003, 21:56
Originally posted by raymondlin
I can't get CH5 :( :mad: You didn't miss much. Mayby because it has a great stablemate in CSI to live up to, but I hope it gets better. & as for delany she has to be the most wooden actress since pinochio, absolute shinola worst part of NYPD blue
GAmbrose
01-02-2003, 22:53
Originally posted by Thornastor
Kim is in only 10 episodes.
Well thanks for the spoiler:oh-hum: :nono:
Gary A
Legendary
01-02-2003, 22:54
I gave it a try and seem to be OK it is like a big like NYPD Blue meet X Files in Miami to me.
But I don't think it will be worth watching, but I will give it another try next week.
hmm... not startling.. stick with it for a few weeks maybe. not a patch on the CSI opener on last Tuesday though.
WAs not as impressed as I had hoped. It did not seem as slick, and Horatio Cane sure as hell is no Gil Grissom. Plus with David Caruso and Kim Delany, I kept expecting Andy Sipowitz to come bursting in.
Legendary
02-02-2003, 01:52
He could wear colourful Hawali shirt and sunglasses, and then slap them :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Let team him up with Frank Burnside :nuts:
Twas ok, certainly worth sticking with.
robzinski
02-02-2003, 11:46
It does get better. Wet foot Dry Foot, and one with a sniper are good episodes.
Judging by the article in this week's Radio Times, many of the cast from CSI were none-too-impressed about the spin-off so soon into their series.
Originally posted by GAmbrose
Well thanks for the spoiler:oh-hum: :nono:
Gary A
I don't think it's a spoiler, I read on teletext this week that she got fired from the series.
jonathan.e
02-02-2003, 13:57
Originally posted by paul_caygill
WAs not as impressed as I had hoped. It did not seem as slick, and Horatio Cane sure as hell is no Gil Grissom. Plus with David Caruso and Kim Delany, I kept expecting Andy Sipowitz to come bursting in.
I know what you mean. Whose bone-head idea was it to cast 2 ex-NYPDBlue people in lead roles in the same show?
Delaney is quite terrible, glad to hear she’s been fired but she’s only guilty of the same crime as Caruso. Neither of them are giving any different a performance to what they have on NYPDBlue. Strictly one-dimensional actors, the both of them.
I can understand the original CSI cast’s annoyance but if Miami continues in this vein it’ll only make the original look better and better (if that were possible).
much as I liked David Caruso in NYPD Blue... he does kind of have an annoying style of speech..
anyone else noticed this? a bit like a modern day William Shatner.... lots of pauses for no apparent reason.
Radiohead
02-02-2003, 16:39
He's crap isn't he - enough to stop me watching really. The programme was ok, but I get sick of watching these US shows with seemingly infallible lead characters that can suss everyone in about 5 seconds flat.
Delaney I can forgive as I'd like to get :norty: with her.
It wasn't as good as CSI purely because it lacked the certain spark that you get between the cast in that show, but it was still entertaining and I'll be watching again. Miami have a much cooler autopsy room :gag:
agreed didnt like it as much as the normal CSI but i will keep trying as i like the concept on the whole.
Law and Order i thought was excellant last nite - shame kids seem to be on tele in such bad circumstances at the mo though :(
Having never watched the original CSI, I came to this new series without any preconceptions, and found it pretty entertaining. Nice to see it was in 16:9 on digital satellite too. We get a lot more of Emily Procter here than in the West Wing too. :D
Originally posted by Chally
Law and Order i thought was excellant last nite - shame kids seem to be on tele in such bad circumstances at the mo though :(
yep, series 9 is really excellent..- just finished last night on Sky One.
one downer though...
Detective Curtis (Benjamin Bratt) left the show last night, his wife in the show is now too sick,.. big hugs and tears last night from him, Lenny and Van Buren.
Julia Roberts made an appearance in this series, so I guess he was off to hollywood and marriage with her at the time.
the new assistant DA (Carmichael?) is pretty good also.
BlueDwarf
02-02-2003, 21:15
Law & Order was excellent - as always.
Wouldn't mind seeing that show from series 1 ep 1, as sky / channel 5 / hallmark have shown so many series at the same time it's hard to get them in some kind of context.
As for the eps on Sky sad to see Curtis leave, and a pretty down-beat 2-parter, even if they did nail the guys in the end
CSI Miami? more like CSI Why-Am-I (watching). An unlikeable lead, the science seems to take the back seat, and the rest of the cast are so-so.
Originally posted by BlueDwarf
Law & Order was excellent - as always.
Wouldn't mind seeing that show from series 1 ep 1, as sky / channel 5 / hallmark have shown so many series at the same time it's hard to get them in some kind of context.
useful hints for following Law and Order, and working out what series you are watching...
1. get Digiguide, and let it tell you in advance!:)
2... cast is fairly solid so if you see these then you know what series you are watching.
Detectives
George Dzundza - Detective Max Greevey (Season 1)
Paul Sorvino - Detective Phil Cerreta (Series 2)
Chris Noth - Detective Mike Logan (Seasons 1-5)
Benjamin Bratt - Detective "Rey" Curtis (Seasons 6-9)
Jerry Orbach - Detective Lennie Briscoe (Series 3+)
Assistant District Attorney
Michael Moriarty - ADA Ben Stone (Seasons 1-4)
Sam Waterston - ADA Jack McCoy (Season 5+)
other ADA
Richard Brooks - Paul Robinette (Seasons 1-3)
Jill Hennessy - Claire Kincaid (Seasons 4-6)
Carey Lowell - Jamie Ross (Seasons 7-8)
Angie Harmon - Abbie Carmichael (Seasons 9-11)
think the DVD of L&O series 1 is due out this year sometime.. the video quality on Hallmark for the early ones looks pretty ropey now.
know what you mean about CSI Miami though... David Caruso seems to be mastering the art of acting whilst going to the toilet... that furrowed concerned brow, and the looong..... pauses.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005JLFV/qid=1044225391/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3073103-2360839?v=glance&s=dvd
Season 1 of L&O is already available in R1.
any reviews yet? the video quality was pretty poor back then so I wonder if they remastered it or not.
Finally got around to watching this as I was not at home on Sat night.
CSI:Miami was a bit of a letdown..... Caruso is well.... not very good really...... some of the other characters could develop into something worth watching though.
L&O was good (disturbing case though). The new ADA is good - fills Jamie's shoes nicely..... not afraid to get her hands dirty etc...
Second episodes of S1 of CSI:Miami and S9 of Law&Order tonight....
Hopefully CSI:Miami will improve :rolleyes:
CSI Miami tonight - The team must discover the culprit behind a bomb blast. Will stick with it but Caruso managed to annoy me within seconds.
Law & Order tonight- McCoy and Carmichael find themselves in the uneasy position of prosecuting three New York police officers for a racially charged hate crime that threatens to throw the city into turmoil.
So whilst Miami may disappoint, L&O looks as good as ever. Was disappointed that Jamie Ross left but was very impressed with Abby Carmichael's first case, she seems very passionate about her job.
So what with The West Wing, Dark Angel and these two, the video will be doing overtime!
And CH5 are showing soft-porn flick "Wild Orchid" after Law&Order :lol:
How to get new viewers without distancing current ones. :D
jonathan.e
09-02-2003, 08:44
Caruso and Delaney are just too annoying. Not sure if I’m gonna be able to stick with this.
The black doctor is pretty irritating as well? What’s with talking to the dead folks? Is that her "thing"? Not really convinced by Caruso’s crew either, far too pretty a bunch and while Grissom’s lot aren’t exactly ugly on a stick they manage to invest their parts with enough conviction to overcome their looks whereas this Miami lot do not.
Well after seeing what a stickler Grissom is for the rules and doing things right, Caine shows he is a complete cowboy by removing evidence from the first bomb scene and returning it to the widow. I don't know what it was about the episode, it had great promise, the slow-mo explosion / implosion and water cannon on robot were classic CSI, but there just was not the tension.:(
it's still entertaining, I like the fact that Caruso is a bit more of a hard ass, it's just that the team around him are all very dull and probably not the best actors they could find
GAmbrose
09-02-2003, 12:07
I thought last nights episode was resolved a bit quickly.
They got a list of people who had access to the warehouse where the imports came in, Horatio see's a guy who used to work on the Bomb squad, goes into a warehouse and talks to him for a minute then dis-arms him.
They could have least done a flashback of what happened to him.
Gary A
budda be praiseduk
09-02-2003, 13:12
I didnt think last nights episode was all that bad i know its not as good as CSI but as said already its still entertaining plus it was only the second episode so i for one will keep watching :)
Its okay but not a patch on normal CSI. am I the only finding Caruso and Delaney really irritating?
Caruso was still doing his ginger frown/ fart look and the... slow... delivery of words a la Shatner... not believable at all.
conversely Delaney just fires her dialogue machine gun style then goes back to sleep... if you watch the sequences where she has no dialog you can see her waiting then fires off her one line.. she looks awful bored to me. very bad casting.
I've seen comparisons between CSI & Miami being likenedto Dallas/ Knotts Landing... it should be the same but somehow that undefinable - it feels totally different.
Las Vegas is sleazy, often the cases at night... Miami is all sunglasses and speedboats.. so very much night and day.. and an entirely different feel.
I'll stick with it for awhile but not forever.
the rest of the cast is also being pushed too quickly... so 5 people have to give out dialogue instead 2 or 3 max.
CSI has a bit more sense here by often having 2 cases at the same time, so 2 or 3 people on each thing and everyone gets a good scene every episode.
watched CSI Miami finally last nite - yet again not impressed, thought the case was resolved too quickly and not due to enuff evidence etc etc..... Thank god the other CSI is still on and continuing to be good viewing imho.
only just started watching law and order so no comment yet.
Originally posted by Chally
only just started watching law and order so no comment yet.
only about 180 episodes you missed then! ;)
LOL i meant saturdays episode!
Having just caught up on the weekend's episodes have to say that CSI was better than last week, but is still not doing much to pique my interest.
The Law & Order episode was very good though. The series just keeps on delivering. :thumbs:
Third episodes of S1 of CSI:Miami and S9 of Law&Order tonight....
Still waiting and hoping that CSI:Miami will improve
Again Miami was entertaining but not great, it seemed to lose steam as it went on. Still points must be accredited for gore content :gag:
budda be praiseduk
16-02-2003, 12:25
Originally posted by utero
Again Miami was entertaining but not great, it seemed to lose steam as it went on. Still points must be accredited for gore content :gag:
Yeah i agree its just missing something for me it hasnt got the spark that CSI has still quite entertaining though.
Fourth episodes of S1 of CSI:Miami and S9 of Law&Order tonight....
Law & Order :clap:
Miami? Not sure now, but it does run nicely with an evening's TV:
8-9 West Wing C4
9-10.50 CSI Miami and L&O
budda be praiseduk
22-02-2003, 20:15
Law & Orders my second fav Tv program at the moment CSI being the first ive been watching it for a couple of weeks now on hallmark and Five and im hooked :D
BlueDwarf
22-02-2003, 22:04
Just saw an ep of Law & Order: Criminal Intent - looks like a pretty good spin-off from the ep I saw.
Just seen that all 22 eps from the first season of Law and Order is out on dvd..muust..save..credit card..
jonathan.e
22-02-2003, 22:17
CSI Miami is irritating. Caruso has the swagger of a man thrown a lifeline but convinced he rescued himself from drowning. The rest of the cast are non-descript to the point where they may as well be modelling shirts on a shopping channel. Everything about it feels ersatz right down to the choice of another Who record for the theme.
I could cheerfully kill that quirky pathologist who always talks to the dead folks some of whose choice dialogue this week consisted of "copy that" when asked by duracell boy if the victim’s eyes were green. What? She couldn’t just say "yes"?! They’re determined to stun us with the sleek surfaces, gadgets and terminology that they forgot the reason the original is so respected is because we care about and like the central characters. They’re believable and subtly played by a cast that doesn’t look as though they would be equally at home in Dawson’s Creek or some wretched daytime soap.
I do understand why Petersen was not happy this show was commissioned but in retrospect it only enhances the quality and originality of the parent programme and I can’t see it being too long before the original is back to being the only one on air.
jonathan.e
22-02-2003, 22:21
Originally posted by BlueDwarf
Just seen that all 22 eps from the first season of Law and Order is out on dvd..muust..save..credit card..
Currently ploughing my way through them. It’s a good set although the pilot is bizarrely placed about four shows into the run and looks noticeably cheaper and grainier than the other shows. Good sturdy packaging as well unlike some other box sets.
Originally posted by BlueDwarf
Just saw an ep of Law & Order: Criminal Intent - looks like a pretty good spin-off from the ep I saw.
presumeably by "alternative" methods...:norty:
anyone have news when this is coming to the UK, or the return of L&O:Special Victims Unit?
I thought last nights miami was an improvement,
Skin on the retainer :gag:
cjanderson
23-02-2003, 11:16
only watched CSI Miami last night and really had to try and think what happened in it.
Its okay, but the characters just don;t grow on you like the originals. There you;ve got Catherine, single mom who dragged herself off the stripping scene, Warrick with his gambling, Sarah and her love for grissolm and possibly an eabusive ex in the past and that other chap whose namke escapes me but looks good and has fallen for a prostitite in the past (okay he's not really a great character if thats all i know about him!)
Still better than nout on a saturday night
Catherine
Oh, and what sort of stupid man tries to make a woman do that to him, seems that getting bitten is bound to happen!!
Originally posted by cjanderson
Oh, and what sort of stupid man tries to make a woman do that to him, seems that getting bitten is bound to happen!! Since a large part of rape is about power over someone, forced fellatio would be (in some people's eyes) an even bigger power trip (and more degrading to the victim) than sexual intercourse type rape.
Sickening and saddening as it is, it does happen quite often. :(
Originally posted by cjanderson
and that other chap whose namke escapes me but looks good and has fallen for a prostitite in the past (okay he's not really a great character if thats all i know about him!) Nick Stokes. :dork:
Fifth episodes of S1 of CSI:Miami and S9 of Law&Order tonight....
Originally posted by 8-]
Fifth episodes of S1 of CSI:Miami and S9 of Law&Order tonight.... Could be a flip of the coin to decide if I bother with CSI Miami. Mind you, with no West Wing, mind need something to fill the time.
budda be praiseduk
02-03-2003, 01:56
Well i watched CSI Miami tonight and i gotta be honest it just aint that good i gave it the benefit the first few episodes thinking it would get better but not a patch on the original and i cant see it getting a second season. Law & Order on the other hand was top quality as always :D
I fell asleep during last night CSI episode but it'll get a 2nd season as it's scored solid ratings in the US and pulls in 2 million viewers in the UK
Thornastor
02-03-2003, 13:57
Next saturday CSI: Miami is on at 2135 and before it it is an old repeat of CSI. Well 5 may of moved it due to Casualty being at 2045
Just watched CSI:Miami - and must say that the best way to watch is after recording it as you can fast forward through the annoying bits. Admittedly this might make it all of 5 mins in length :D
Taped it along with L&O and watched them both today. Caruso wound me up no end with his little "I am going to be on your case" speech at the end - the lawyer would have slapped a harrassment suit on him faster than he could say "washed-up NYPD Blue actor".
Still, L&O was excellent, a really sicko this time. Correct me if I am wrong, but the serial killer had nothing to do with the attack on that woman and postie, did he?
jonathan.e
02-03-2003, 17:15
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Correct me if I am wrong, but the serial killer had nothing to do with the attack on that woman and postie, did he?
Nope. Flawed the rest of it for me. Why cop to something he didn’t do?
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Nope. Flawed the rest of it for me. Why cop to something he didn’t do? Ah well in that case I get it. He coughed to that as he was getting a deal to admit to other attacks as long as they did not extradite him to a death penalty state. Presumably he had done a lot all over the country and did not want to go back to Texas, considering they are rather quick to press the plunger.
Law & Order was incredible, as always. It's a rule in our house now that, if we've taped more than one programme through the week to watch on Sunday, L&O comes last -- otherwise, anything we watch after it seems like total dross in comparison. The twists and turns in the plot are always great -- although I've stopped reading each week's synopsis in our TV guide as it invariably refers to something that's revealed two thirds of the way through. Here's what DigiGuide said about this week's ep:
An insanely jealous woman gets her brother to kill her boyfriend's ex-wife, but their plan backfires when the woman survives.:brickwall
The serial killer's deal was a devious one: when it turned out he didn't do it, I was shocked (and it took me a few minutes to work out why he'd admitted to it!). And then in comes Carmichael with the extradition letter... wow! (Even better than McCoy's sentence recommendation for the negligent company the week before.)
As for CSI: Miami... I gave up on this after four weeks. I think it's mainly Horatio Kane that turns me off of the show -- consider how he's always looking out at autopsies from the vantage point of his glass walled control room, and then compare to Grissom who actually joins in with the action. Kane always seems to know the answers too, and makes that known to his team at every opportunity. What's worse is that those flimsy excuses for characters simper and look amazed at Kane's deductive prowess! For example, last week he said something to one of the CSIs (on the way out of the beachside mansion) about the bartender (IIRC), and the guy stood there watching Kane's retreating back in awe. :|
Law & Order was excellent (as usual). The Serial Killer (when he was looking at Abby Carmichael) was pretty chilling. You could almost see his mind working..... :eek:
Regarding CSI - both the Kim Delaney & David Caruso characters are dire as neither of them can act. Delaney is annoying in NYPD: Blue as well - but I guess I just accepted her in that role. To see her playing the same role in CSI: Miami just brings home how bad an actress she is - and as such she now annoys me in both series.
Caruso .... well he can only play one role and its not believable. In fact imo the only role he ever played believably was as the snivelly rookie deputy sheriff in First Blood.
jonathan.e
09-03-2003, 14:15
Originally posted by 8-]
Regarding CSI - both the Kim Delaney & David Caruso characters are dire as neither of them can act. Delaney is annoying in NYPD: Blue as well - but I guess I just accepted her in that role. To see her playing the same role in CSI: Miami just brings home how bad an actress she is - and as such she now annoys me in both series.
Too right. I was told why she’s no longer on CSI Miami but with the internet becoming more and more litigious I don’t really want to put it in writing. It is incredibly ironic though once you know.
Last night’s was predictably rote, pulling out the paedophile episode which every US crime show has to have in a season by law apparently. Plenty of scope for doing something different especially seeing as one of Caine’s earlier remarks seemed to indicate it would go in an interesting direction but failed to do.
Caruso just lurves to stand around back-lit with his coat pulled back, hands on hips striking a pose. I swear that’s pretty much the way every scene with him in it ends.
Normally I don’t object but how much cleavage is on show in this programme?! Even the pathologist flashed some this week. At this rate Caruso will be next to get in on the act.
Anyone know what the tune was right at the end playing while Caruso was sat on the park bench looking for all the world like a ginger paedo?
:brickwall
WTF is up with Channel 5? They're normally such a great channel, then they go and do something like this to antagonise L&O viewers. I'm talking, of course, about the continuity announcer who said, immediately before this week's L&O: "And now, a mother is shot... in Law And Order". :oh-hum:
That spoiled the first few minutes when the detectives were investigating the escort (who was clearly not the intended victim, since he wasn't a mother). It also told us that the woman was a mother and furthermore that her son or daughter was probably involved (since her role as a mother wasn't otherwise mentioned). And then, when the young chap turned up, it wasn't a massive leap to figure him as the son. We're about ten minutes from the end of the episode by now, and most of the events so far were robbed of suspense and surprise by the continuity announcer's single phrase. :(
I've learned to avoid reading DigiGuide and the TV listings magazine lest I see the L&O synopsis, but surely I should be able to trust the actual TV channel to not give away the final state of the drama immediately before I watch it? Do they worry that I'll change channel unless I get a clear idea upfront of how the show will end?
Not pleased. :mad:
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Too right. I was told why she’s no longer on CSI Miami but with the internet becoming more and more litigious I don’t really want to put it in writing. It is incredibly ironic though once you know.
jonathan.e, any chance you could email me with the reason Kim Delany is on longer in CSI:Miami? Pretty please! :D
I was going to start a thread but after seeing your post thought I'd just ask you first!
I thought she would've left because after about 4 good epsiodes the programme is becoming uninvolving preachy dross and she'd realised this and jumped ship! (I never minded her in NYPD Blue - but in this I wanna give her a slap! In fact I think the whole cast is unconvincing unlike the original CSI, where I "believe" they are doing the job! - even if they do all look far too fabulous to be real!)
It just doesn't have that "thing" that CSI has?! Can't quite work out what, must be the characters or something - it's just that none of it gels right. And that peado episode was beyond pathetic with every character making sure to voice just how vile they thought the guy was just in case we didn't get it! - and then the guy was a complete cliche "bad guy" anyway. Not good writing at all. He was from the Carol Vorderman book of peados for Daily Mail readers!
Anyway, if jonathan.e or anyone else can tell me about Kim Delany (and how many episodes she is actually in), muchos cheers from moi!
Richie
Thornastor
17-03-2003, 13:42
She is only in 10 episodes and have you noticed the producers have seperated them recently giving different case:suspect:
I wish they'd kill her off and allow her to take Caruso with her....
Originally posted by me
Not pleased. :mad: Right, I've emailed five to complain. It struck me, when composing the email, how silly it was that I should feel the need to make the following request:
Please don't announce on air, before a programme begins, how that programme will end. A fairly basic rule, I would have thought. :p
Anyone care to tell me why Delaney isn't in CSI Miami any more?
AFAIK it was because she didn't get on with Mr Caruso. But that could be made up...
Liked tonite's CSI - snuff film one :clap: served him right too :p
Originally posted by jamesking420
Anyone care to tell me why Delaney isn't in CSI Miami any more?
according to usenet, some alleged info here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Delaney+CSI+Miami+why&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=20021115112426.26147.00000009%40mb-fi.aol.com&rnum=6
Originally posted by MartinC
according to usenet, some alleged info here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Delaney+CSI+Miami+why&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=20021115112426.26147.00000009%40mb-fi.aol.com&rnum=6
"STUPIDITY IS NOT A HANDICAP. Park elsewhere!"
:lol: :clap:
Caruso sounds like a prize plonker!
jonathan.e
18-03-2003, 23:34
Originally posted by MartinC
according to usenet, some alleged info here.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Delaney+CSI+Miami+why&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=20021115112426.26147.00000009%40mb-fi.aol.com&rnum=6
Just about covers it.
Simontemplar
19-03-2003, 11:27
i know that Miami aint nearly as good as its parent show but I missed this Saturday's episode and am desperate to see it. Does anyone here have a VHS of it I could borrow and return. I don't keep it, just need to watch it and return.
Help! Help! Help!
David
xcentrik
19-03-2003, 16:11
I agree with you all about CSI and CSI Miami - CSI being far better than the other, somehow it just does not gel for me! Thought that last nights episode was quite good. Sara is looking different with the hair and makeup thing going on.
CSI Miami is just so orange and slightly :zzz:
Am I the only one not that impressed with the Sniper episode that I had heard so much about?
Sure, the CSI scenes showing how to rebuild the crime scene of the sniper were well done, but the whole plot as usual just left me very frustrated. At the end when the sniper did the (poorly-delivered) "Don't you want to know why I did it?", I did but instead we are rewarded with a cop-out - you don't need to know why he did it, he is just evil.
I was also willing the sniper to take the shot on Caruso though - damn him for not saving us from another episode with him in :D
jonathan.e
31-03-2003, 09:13
I thought it was hilarious at the first crime scene that all these CSI experts, so dedicated to finding microscopic clues and evidence kept their cool sunglasses on throughout the investigation. Yeah, ’cos that’d help you see better.
The more I see of this show, the more I realise it’s just a big pose, constructing plots and scenes so the pretty actors (Caruso excepted!) can look self-conciously cool, or so they think.
I actually like the people in the original CSI which is an achievement as they’re actors and yet we have a real sense of those characters as actual people whereas the Miami lot are cardboard cutouts and damned irritating ones at that. In addition to Kim Delaney and Caruso the ones I’d like to see taken out by a sniper are the pathologist who without fail every single week has to start chatting to the corpses, like that’s a quirky thing to do when in fact it’s ridiculous and stupid. The stupid Texan with the long hair would also have to go and the crime scenes would be less contaminated if she did. The two guys don’t irritate as much but that’s more because they’re a bit bland and underwritten.
Originally posted by paul_caygill
I was also willing the sniper to take the shot on Caruso though - damn him for not saving us from another episode with him in :D I was really willing him to pull the trigger when Caruso was in his sights ....
I was also a bit frustrated with the episode - the ending was just too neat and rushed imo.
Originally posted by jonathan.e
I thought it was hilarious at the first crime scene that all these CSI experts, so dedicated to finding microscopic clues and evidence kept their cool sunglasses on throughout the investigation. Yeah, ’cos that’d help you see better.
The more I see of this show, the more I realise it’s just a big pose, constructing plots and scenes so the pretty actors (Caruso excepted!) can look self-conciously cool, or so they think.
I actually like the people in the original CSI which is an achievement as they’re actors and yet we have a real sense of those characters as actual people whereas the Miami lot are cardboard cutouts and damned irritating ones at that. In addition to Kim Delaney and Caruso the ones I’d like to see taken out by a sniper are the pathologist who without fail every single week has to start chatting to the corpses, like that’s a quirky thing to do when in fact it’s ridiculous and stupid. The stupid Texan with the long hair would also have to go and the crime scenes would be less contaminated if she did. The two guys don’t irritate as much but that’s more because they’re a bit bland and underwritten. I agree about the sunglasses. I always found that odd.
The CSI: Miami bods seem far more obsessed with their appearance and coming out with what they think is cool and cryptic responses that they have now become caricatures.
The CSI: Vegas bunch just seem much more believable. You actually believe that they do the jobs that they portray. I know that it isn't just a matter of it being CSI: Miami's 1st series, as CSI was better than this in its first series.
Caruso controls the entire setup and it really annoys me ... he thinks that he is cool and good at what he does but he's just an arrogant muppet who I would pay good money to see beaten up (on screen) :)
Delaney annoys me, but she is positively angelic compared to David "Charisma Bypass" Caruso.
Originally posted by 8-]
The CSI: Miami bods seem far more obsessed with their appearance And when it is Emily Proctor on screen, that is fine by me :norty:
CSI Miami was ok I guess. Although it seemed very rushed near the end (as CSI Miami often seems to be). They add a lot of stuff and then neatly tie it up at the end and it just seems too rushed.
Was that the last episode with Kim Delaney?
Law & Order was another excellent episode. :clap:
Still have them on video from last night - still got last week's 24 as well, starting to get a bit of a backlog!
Just checked TVTOME and apparently last night's ep was the final one with Kim Delaney.
I wonder what they'll use as her reason for leaving (on screen reason I mean).
Well she seems to have been on screen less in recent weeks, so it was becoming obvious she was going (even if I hadn't known already). Shame, she's a nice looking woman.
As much as I like Emily, I wish she was more expressive. It seems sometimes that when they show her character working alone, she looks like someone trying too hard not to look at a video camera.
Last nights episode was pretty good.
CSI Miami was actually pretty enjoyable last night IMO
Hate to admit it, but Miami was almost tolerable - mind you, Caruso was less present than normal so maybe that explains it.
L&O though was on top form - vile little youths that, especially hated the description of kerbing, reminded me too much of American History X :(
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Hate to admit it, but Miami was almost tolerable - mind you, Caruso was less present than normal so maybe that explains it.
L&O though was on top form - vile little youths that, especially hated the description of kerbing, reminded me too much of American History X :( Yep - the American History X image was the one that came to mind for me as well. :(
Sick buggers.... and that Willis guy was a twisted sicko as well.
Originally posted by 8-]
Sick buggers.... and that Willis guy was a twisted sicko as well. And as they always do in this hides behind the First Amendment. I sometimes wonder what the Founding Fathers of the US would say if they saw the way that their society of today had twisted their principles and ideals to fit their own agendas.
Had to cheer when that father got stuck into his son though: "My father took a bullet fighting those ************ and I'll be damned if his grandson is going to churn out the same rubbish that they did" :clap:
Bump for tonight...
I wonder if they'll explain Megan Donner's disappearance from the series?
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Who? :D
Kim Delaney....
jonathan.e
12-04-2003, 17:17
Good riddance I say. How soon before she exits stage left in NYPD?
Originally posted by jonathan.e
Good riddance I say. How soon before she exits stage left in NYPD? I'd have preferred her to stay and Caruso to go - if we had the choice. Ideally they both would have died after being tortured onscreen.
jonathan.e
12-04-2003, 17:23
Originally posted by 8-]
Ideally they both would have died after being tortured onscreen.
Like your thinking. Maybe she could do a guest spot on the new series of Spooks?
Warm up the chip pan lads!
How hollow to hear Caruso going on about being sad that Megan Donner was gone.... him being the reason she went. :suspect:
Horatio: I almost walked once...
if only
Originally posted by Richie
Horatio: I almost walked once...
if only More like....
"I almost acted once...... and then I realised that I don't know how to"
Kirsten.Jet
13-04-2003, 16:02
Isn't Miami more popular in America? Does anyone know if Ch5 are likely to show either of the Law and Order off shots?
Zoe
Originally posted by 8-]
How hollow to hear Caruso going on about being sad that Megan Donner was gone.... him being the reason she went. :suspect: AS unscehduled exits go, that one was a crap one. "Oh, after exhibiting no signs of it at all, she decided that this job was upsetting her too much". :oh-hum:
Originally posted by paul_caygill
AS unscehduled exits go, that one was a crap one. "Oh, after exhibiting no signs of it at all, she decided that this job was upsetting her too much". :oh-hum: Yep - she was totally fine about getting on with her job, and then she does a total 180 and disappears... :suspect:
On another note - Law & Order was another top episode last night :thumbs:
Yes, L&O was absolutely superb. Liked Briscoe's comment early on (in the bit before the real case) about successful prosecution resting on whether the shooter "throws like a girl". :D
(And as a bonus, neither Digiguide nor our TV listings magazine proffered a description much beyond "30 year-old murder case", which was a pleasant surprise.)
Thornastor
14-04-2003, 09:26
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kirsten.Jet
[B] Does anyone know if Ch5 are likely to show either of the Law and Order off shots? [QUOTE]
Yes 5 has got the rights to only Special Victims Unit and they have yet to schedule it :)
Originally posted by Thornastor
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kirsten.Jet
[B] Does anyone know if Ch5 are likely to show either of the Law and Order off shots? [QUOTE]
Yes 5 has got the rights to only Special Victims Unit and they have yet to schedule it :) Law & Order: SVU is one of my favourite shows. Some class characters on it ... especially Detective Munch :notworthy :clap:
I can't wait for this to start being aired by CH5.
Munch is my favourite as well (not bad looking either)
Bump for tonight..... :thumbs:
According to the TV guide, Emily Proctor is the lead in tonight's episode.
Hubba hubba :norty:
jonathan.e
19-04-2003, 17:51
I only watch this programme to be irritated by the cast now. Helps me work off some of my weekday pent-up anger.
Originally posted by jonathan.e
I only watch this programme to be irritated by the cast now. Helps me work off some of my weekday pent-up anger. :lol: I can just imagine you throwing rotting fruit and veg at the screen whenever Cardboard Caruso struts onto the screen, places hand on hip and other hand on sunglasses.
Just a thought, but how the hell do they ever see any forensic evidence from behind their shades?
jonathan.e
19-04-2003, 18:04
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Just a thought, but how the hell do they ever see any forensic evidence from behind their shades?
I know - That’s one of my main bugbears with the show. I can only imagine that Miami CSI have some elaborate H.U.D. in their shades feeding them all sorts of vital info second by second. Either that or the cast are vain EDITED- You decide.
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
I know - That’s one of my main bugbears with the show. I can only imagine that Miami CSI have some elaborate H.U.D. in their shades feeding them all sorts of vital info second by second. Either that or the cast are vain EDITED- You decide. Its probably the lines - fed to him word by word so that the muppet can read them at his own pace!
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
Either that or the cast are vain EDITED- You decide.
:thumbs:
definitely the latter.
I guess since "original" CSI tends to be the night shift crew or Vegas nightlife based, they dont have the sunglasses problem too often.
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robzinski
20-04-2003, 16:00
Horatio Cane: "Where were you on wednesday night Principal Wood?"
PrincipleWood:"I was out fighting vampires with Buffy & The Vampire with a soul who killed my mum"
HC:"Riiiiiiiiiiight, Lock him up"
cjanderson
20-04-2003, 18:11
well if you all like Law and Order, Hallmark are showing LAw and order, special victims unit, more about the sex crimes. Seems okay from the first 20 minutes
Catherine
Oh, its on every night at 10pm. Started season 1 last week and now on episode 4 from this week
Thoughts about last night's episode "Bunk"?
Quite poor IMO. Both storylines seemed to build up to something relatively complex and interesting, and then completely fizzled out at the end.
Death Of Elderly Woman:
Anyone else think the multiple boyfriend thing was extremly tacky? And as much as I love Emily Procter, whenever the sister mentioned she looked like the elderly woman, the "looks" she gave were more like a deer caught in headlights (as opposed to genuine fear on any parallels between the two women).
Death By Drug Fumes:
Started off quite well. But then completely lost it at the end. The bloke and his lawyer handing Horatio the murder weapon was just stupid IMO. How many guilty people are going to hand over the murder weapon on the account of them being willing to help?! Lol...
Ending:
Seemed pretty obvious to me that the whole Horatio/Brother storyline was almost hacked on to make us feel empathy. It worked in some ways. But needs and should be developed a lot more. Not holding my breath though, this Series has a habit for cop-outs (ending of the Sniper Episode, Kim Delaney/Megan vanishing completely without any build-up, etc).
jonathan.e
27-04-2003, 09:47
I hate David Crapuso! What was with all the military hand signals when they were in the suits and then 10 seconds later he was talking to the others on the radio mike? Did they think the SAS style silent gestures looked cool so they just stuck them in regardless?
Can’t decide who I would machine gun first. Copper-top or that pathologist who thinks she’s in The Sixth Sense.
In relation to the drug fumes knife thing I took it to mean that the doctor was being too cocky. From earlier, he had already admitted to the CSI team that he had a knife for protection, so it would have looked suspect if just after the murder it had suddenly got lost. Presumably he would have cleaned the knife thoroughly, perhaps through a medical steriliser, so would be confident that there was no blood to link him to the murder scene. But the distinct hilt damage meant it was possible to link it to the murder and catch him
Could be wrong, but that was how I took it.
Law & Order was excellent though, and shocking in the way that the two bounty hunters were able to legitimately shoot dead two unarmed women in "pursuit" of their bail jumper and get away with it.
Was I the only one who wanted to batter that bounty hunter lawyer about the chops?
By the way, what is supposed to be the story with Horatio's brother? Do we know or is all we know he was a cop who is dead?
Originally posted by paul_caygill
By the way, what is supposed to be the story with Horatio's brother? Do we know or is all we know he was a cop who is dead?
I can't remember the brother being mentioned before. From the gravestone at the end, we could see the brother was 25 when he died. Just before that, Horatio and Alexx were talking and he mentioned something about victims dying too young and how much it hurts him. I think the Brother storyline was just brought in as a link to the 19 year old OD'ing.
But it would be good for a character development is they expanded on it a little in future episodes.
Wasn't sure if Spoilers were really needed for the above, but stuck 'em in just in case...
Originally posted by SC725
Wasn't sure if Spoilers were really needed for the above, but stuck 'em in just in case... Neither was I, but better to be safe than sorry.
Edit - welcome to the Forums by the way :thumbs:
The brother storyline has been mentioned in at least one of the earlier episodes. I think it was the one where Horatio's mentor was killed trying to defuse a bomb. He was saying that they should of protected his mentor like they should have protected his brother when he was killed.
I think there was also an episode (maybe the one where he got the letter from Megan saying she had quit) where the group went for a drink after work but Horatio wouldn't go and they showed him sitting in his office looking at a picture of his brother.
Originally posted by pjg
The brother storyline has been mentioned in at least one of the earlier episodes. I think it was the one where Horatio's mentor was killed trying to defuse a bomb. He was saying that they should of protected his mentor like they should have protected his brother when he was killed.
I think there was also an episode (maybe the one where he got the letter from Megan saying she had quit) where the group went for a drink after work but Horatio wouldn't go and they showed him sitting in his office looking at a picture of his brother. Was that his brother?
I vaguely remember something about his dead father, not his brother.
EP.#14 "Forced Entry"
A major improvement from last week, quite enjoyed this one.
Death Of Man Tied To Bed:
When they were interviewing the wife and she was completely clueless, I guessed at that point who the killer was (and why). Just one thing...Leonard Murphy said the guy who died (Tom) didn't recognise him when he came into the shop. So Thomas Carpenter went into the shop of a guy he attacked and didn't recognise him? I think I missed something there cos that particular point doesn't seem to work.
The storyline for the murder of the crematorium owner was very well worked. Loved how it all came together at the end. Hopefully the rest of the Series will continue in a similar vein. Oh, and is it just me and my TV, or is the yellow tint they add to CSI: Miami really heavy?
Originally posted by SC725
[B]...Just one thing...Leonard Murphy said the guy who died (Tom) didn't recognise him when he came into the shop. So Thomas Carpenter went into the shop of a guy he attacked and didn't recognise him? I think I missed something there cos that particular point doesn't seem to work.
Since rape is about power - the rapist may not have recognised his former victim in a professional setting.
He may have only seen him originally as a target/prey - may never have looked him directly in the face in proper light, etc.
It's not unreasonable that the rapist didn't recognise the victim - I've heard about this happening in real-life cases I've read about and seen on TV.
Cheers for clearing that up mate. I just thought I completely missed something from the plot. :thumbs:
L&O/Homicide -- :thumbs:. Dell was a slimeball, although the guy from his office (the one who threatened the DAs with the hints about Danvers' past and later came to take their suspect away) was worse. So offensively slimey that I'd love to see him come back, in fact. :)
Always a pleasure to see Munch, especially his interaction with Briscoe. Although, as with the last time C5 showed a crossover, that tantalising glimpse of a H:LotS episode leaves me desperate for more. At least the first season is available on DVD... here's hoping the rest follow soon enough.
Simontemplar
06-05-2003, 11:32
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CSI Miami passes the time but really looking forward to L&O - Lennie Briscoe is one cool cop!
Originally posted by paul_caygill
CSI Miami passes the time but really looking forward to L&O - Lennie Briscoe is one cool cop! Yep :)
Its a shame that Detective Munch isn't on Law & Order - he is also a class act
EP.#15 "Dead Woman Walking"
Not bad, interesting storyline. Excellent acting by Karen Sillas (Belle King) in the final 2 minutes. But some parts were just awful. The scene where Delco, Speed and Calleigh were in the same room and Delco had the nose bleed was very poor. Everything sounded fake and preachy, nothing genuine at all. Oh well, at least they nixed the yellow tint this week. :)
jonathan.e
11-05-2003, 13:57
Some terrible work by all the regulars this week. Is Speed’s last name "Exposition"? The blurb he recited about the camera lens may as well have been read on camera from a page it was so wooden although his delivery has nothing on Caruso. Righteous anger, pity, concern, pain and affection all registered with the same expression and the same monotone. How does he keep his job!?!?!
CSI is a solid concept and a spin-off could work but not with this bunch of shop-window dummies.
I like Caruso :eek:
*hides*
Originally posted by 857
I like Caruso :eek:
*hides* [Yokel voice] Cleatus! Round up the posse, we got ourselves a darned traitor in our midst [/Yokel voice]
Originally posted by 857
I like Caruso :eek:
*hides* Finish your sentence man !!
I like Caruso ......
..... to die painfully screaming like the whining whelp that he is
Caruso HAS got only one expression. Did someone steel the cuprinal ad man ad call him Caruso? In a tv show couldn't they get at least one actor in it?
Radiohead
11-05-2003, 15:06
CSI Miami is dreadful isn't it....such wooden acting.
I also love the way that they have technology that can seemingly do anything at all, but that they were stumped when the last night's killer deleted the files from his PC - like any half-decent geek couldn't recover that.
Originally posted by 857
I like Caruso :eek:
*hides* Looks like the powers that be have decided to start punishing you already ..... http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190473
Originally posted by 8-]
Looks like the powers that be have decided to start punishing you already ..... http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190473 I think the tea had already been spilt on the keyboard when the infamous "I like Caruso" statement was written, so presumably we can put it down to that. Otherwise we need to get the posse together and go a'huntin' :D
damn ... i guess the keyboard god hates caruso too
i never thought of him as being bad until i read through this, i thought he was cool :oh-hum:
i'm glad they got rid of kim deleney though
the medical examiner woman who talks to the bodies can go aswell
i thought the other guy "speed" ... i thought he was called "speek" lol ... is ok aswell
and the blonde gun-woman is ok too
still, regular CSI has an all-good cast.
Originally posted by paul_caygill
[Yokel voice] Cleatus! Round up the posse, we got ourselves a darned traitor in our midst [/Yokel voice]
LOL! :lol: Thanks for that, made me laugh so much. :D I don't really share the same resentment for David Caruso as some of you lot, but there were times when I was watching last night's episode and I thought to myself "I see why they hate him so much". Either he seems to say the wrong thing, or his expressions are null and void.
Originally posted by Radiohead
I also love the way that they have technology that can seemingly do anything at all, but that they were stumped when the last night's killer deleted the files from his PC - like any half-decent geek couldn't recover that.
Hehe, nice spot. :thumbs:
Bump for tonight.....
CSI: Miami - S1x16 - Evidence of Things Unseen
Law & Order - S9x16 - Harm
robzinski
17-05-2003, 21:03
I thought tonights ep was awful. Seemed to not flow at all.
Only good thing was the song playing right before the final credits, anyone know what it was? Sounded like Ian Brown singing.
Radiohead
17-05-2003, 21:09
It was Ian Brown - don't know the title but I'm pretty sure it's on Music of the Spheres.
Dreadful episode - I'm giving up with it.
robzinski
17-05-2003, 22:45
Originally posted by Radiohead
It was Ian Brown - don't know the title but I'm pretty sure it's on Music of the Spheres.
Cheers for that, i thought he only had UMB and Golden Greats out. I'd never heard of that. I'll have to seek that out.
EDIT: I think the song is northern lights, but i could be mistaken
jonathan.e
18-05-2003, 05:50
In addition to having only one acting style does Caruso only have one suit? Every week the same one with a brown shirt. Good choice for a ginga.
Casting director on this show should be fired.
Still not watching CSI:Miami -- I really can't bring myself to go back to it. Law & Order was great, as always. It was good to see Carmichael going it alone -- and her performance in the case seemed to increase McCoy's respect for her.
Loved the comments about divorce lawyers at the start. :D
the sunglasses thing in CSI Miami is really starting to bug me.
in this weeks episode, the bit when
Ginger Man & his mate went to the dock & found the guy floating in the water
It was the middle of the night & they were still wearing their frickin' shades!
Aaaarrggghhh!!!!
:brickwall
Originally posted by aprout
the sunglasses thing in CSI Miami is really starting to bug me.
in this weeks episode, the bit when
Ginger Man & his mate went to the dock & found the guy floating in the water
It was the middle of the night & they were still wearing their frickin' shades!
Aaaarrggghhh!!!!
:brickwall
Was it actually the middle of the night? I kinda got the impression it was very early morning...One thing I enjoyed about this episode was the cinematography (is that the right word?). The blue tint made it look somewhat classy, a shame the storyline bogged the thing down a bit. The ape/zoo connection was more amusing that anything else. Not exactly good, but there were a couple of half decent moments that prevent me from saying it was total rubbish.
Radiohead
24-05-2003, 15:50
Will tonight's episode continue David Caruso's one-dimensional acting masterclass?
Cue brooding looks with head tipped at a mildly jaunty angle.
Originally posted by Radiohead
Will tonight's episode continue David Caruso's one-dimensional acting masterclass? I assume you already know the answer to that question? :)
Radiohead
24-05-2003, 16:09
It's in the dictionary under definition of "rhetorical question"
;)
Originally posted by Radiohead
Will tonight's episode continue David Caruso's one-dimensional acting masterclass?
Cue brooding looks with head tipped at a mildly jaunty angle. You missed "whilst wearing shades in low-light/ the dark". How can you forget the shades, with one hand on hip?
Radiohead
24-05-2003, 17:37
:lol:
+ whilst spouting the most obvious lines and just happening to always find that vital bit of evidence just yards from the murder.
I would pay good money for the gruesome death of his character!
A good episode would be that Caruso finally finds out that he can't act, and his ego implodes.
:norty:
Originally posted by Radiohead
:lol:
+ whilst spouting the most obvious lines and just happening to always find that vital bit of evidence just yards from the murder. Exactly, but it all comes down to the character.
Picture the scene, man with lump of wood in head. If Grissom says "Bet he had a headache", we will all be :lol: :notworthy :lol: as the credits roll. If Caine does it, we are all :|:rolleyes: :oh-hum: :rolleyes: :| as the credits roll.
Was that "a moment" between the female CSI and the Cuban CSI? :norty:
Arrrggg...what the hell happened to this episode by the end?! I was actually quite enjoying it for the first 15-20 mins. Then it just went completely down the bog.
Couldn't help but laugh when Horatio and Delco were wearing sunglasses at what seemed like 10am on a murky day. :D Also, that bit with Calleigh and Detective #2 near the end was a bit erm...crap? Really don't know how else to describe it, lol. It was like:
"Oh dear, someone's died so I blame myself" *Cue near-crying*
"But then again, it was just another druggie, so I have a clean conscience" *Skips off happy as ever*
And if anyone cares to explain the final sequence, it would be appreciated. :thumbs: I couldn't be bothered to even try and make sense of it, lol.
Radiohead
24-05-2003, 22:03
So bad it's good?
Originally posted by Radiohead
So bad it's good? Nope - it just keeps plumbing new depths.
Oh poo, I missed it last night and I was supposed to be recording it. Does anyone know if and when it's going to be repeated?
jonathan.e
25-05-2003, 15:19
The cop who Blondie was talking to turned up as a cop in Law & Order which needless to say was infinitely superior to G.I.N.G.A.Miami.
Originally posted by SC725
And if anyone cares to explain the final sequence, it would be appreciated. :thumbs: I couldn't be bothered to even try and make sense of it, lol.
Wasn’t that his brother’s ex? If Horatio/Caruso was my brother I think I’d rather be dead as well.
In Law and Order, was the older cop that Abby / Jack were talking to Sully out of Third Watch?
Originally posted by robzinski
Cheers for that, i thought he only had UMB and Golden Greats out. I'd never heard of that. I'll have to seek that out.
EDIT: I think the song is northern lights, but i could be mistaken
Just got around to watching this episode. The song was Forever and a day from the Music of the Spheres album.
Hate to admit it, just finished watching last night's episode with the drug shootout and actually quite enjoyed it. Was not sure what the point of Speed's dirty gun was, but thought the scene with Caleigh whacked on coke was quite funny :D
Caine tortures the suspect (shot in the leg) who promptly dies..... hmmmm :nono: :rolleyes:
He was told by the other cop that the guy was fading as well but didn't allow them to evacuate him - instead he grabbed his wound and squeezed. :oh-hum:
Originally posted by paul_caygill
In Law and Order, was the older cop that Abby / Jack were talking to Sully out of Third Watch?
I noticed that,I was saying Its Sully,whats he doing here.I was expecting davis to walk though and say have they gcaught up with you about the girlfriend finally:D
Originally posted by 8-]
Caine tortures the suspect (shot in the leg) who promptly dies..... hmmmm :nono: :rolleyes:
He was told by the other cop that the guy was fading as well but didn't allow them to evacuate him - instead he grabbed his wound and squeezed. :oh-hum: Strangely that was one of the things that I liked about it - it showed that unlike Grissom, Caine is prepared to break the rules for his case or to get justice.
Also liked the shootout at the start, very impressive - but would you really move that amount of drugs with 2 SWAT guys in one car, 2 ordinary cops and 2 CSIs? :suspect:
The evidence used to catch the reporter was tainted due to the circumstances surrounding the way that he got it.
Anyone else and I probably wouldn't have cared, but as it was "Mr. The Evidence is what matters and I will preach to everyone" it annoyed me.
Originally posted by 8-]
The evidence used to catch the reporter was tainted due to the circumstances surrounding the way that he got it. Considering they never seem to follow these cases through, I don't suppose the viewer is supposed to go that far. Anyway, do you really believe that the version anyone else was told would be anything other than a "voluntary deathbed confession"? ;)
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Anyway, do you really believe that the version anyone else was told would be anything other than a "voluntary deathbed confession"? ;) Yep you're right - but that rewriting of the truth goes against everything that CSI is meant to stand for.
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Was not sure what the point of Speed's dirty gun was, but thought the scene with Caleigh whacked on coke was quite funny :D
The point of the dirty gun as I understood it was to misdirect us into believing he might have been in league with the shooters, i.e. deliberately hadn't fired his gun.
I could sense something might have been coming with the coke in the tile factory when the powder blew into her face, but didn't guess it was coke.
Originally posted by cervaro
I could sense something might have been coming with the coke in the tile factory when the powder blew into her face, but didn't guess it was coke. That scene on the poly just had me in stitches - mind you I thought the character there was very similar to her hyper portrayal of Ainsley Hayes in The West Wing though.
Last night's episode started off pretty good, but like many of the previous eps it just seemed to lose it by the end. The name written backwards thing was a bit dodgy. Could have been a great episode, but it just turned out to be mediocre.
Oh, and if anyone wants a good laugh head on down to the Television Without Pity Review of last night's ep. Absolute quality entertainment, made me "lol" literally on more than one occasion. :thumbs:
The name written backward was moronic. I always consider backward names (dunno why) but dismissed it when they were searching for Nadir Kire in the database as a lame plot idea. Imagine my surprise when they actually used it.
It is the sort of thing that belongs in a Hardy Boys type story - i.e. aimed at a 10 year old.
Although there are still lots of things about Miami that annoy me I have started to enjoy it a lot more recently. I think it has improved since Megan left and this weeks was better because the annoying Alexx was hardly in it :clap:
When they first read the name backwards I thought maybe it was to make us think Eric (Delko) was the one leaking information.
The fact that everyone got shot apart from Horatio who was then able to act the hero again really annoyed me :rolleyes:
jonathan.e
07-06-2003, 17:42
Please....make it stop!!!! :gag: :( ;)
Rented the NYPD Blue season 1 discs this weekend - nice to see that David Caruso's acting style has hardly changed. Thank god no-one in NY gave him sunglasses though!
I must admit I really am enjoying CSI:Miami...
Its still not a patch on the original CSI but I dunno..I think David Caruso does play a good part :nuts: :nuts: :eek: :eek:
But then again I like Session 9 because he was in it....:p
I know most people find his acting very wooden but I don't mind it...
Cleatus - round up the boys. We have a lynchin' to do :nuts:
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Cleatus - round up the boys. We have a lynchin' to do :nuts:
:wave: :p :nuts: :lol:
Caruso makes a comment about the feds saying that in 2 hours someone in a suit and raybans will arrive....
oh the irony!
That father in Law & Order tonight ..... :eek: what a total scumbag
Another good episode of Miami this week I thought. Not much of Alexx again - maybe they have finally realised how bad she is :clap: :clap:
Horatio's sister-in-law is starting to annoy me now though. It's strange that she wasn't in it at all at first and now she has had some connection with the cases in the last three episodes in a row.
They are starting to develop the characters background a bit more now too. Such as showing Calleigh's drunk father this week as well as the stuff with Horatio and his brother's wife.
EP.#20 "Grave Young Men"
Major props for tackling such a sensitive subject. Overall, not a bad episode. The music throughout the episode was excellent, and the final shot of the silhouette of Horatio walking down the hall was very well done IMO. The other storyline was a bit pointless, didn't really go anywhere seeing as they only had one suspect, lol.
DarkAvenger
15-06-2003, 10:15
Previously posted by pjg
Horatio's sister-in-law is starting to annoy me now though. It's strange that she wasn't in it at all at first and now she has had some connection with the cases in the last three episodes in a row.
She did not have any connection with the case in last nights episode as this part of the storyline was merely about Horatio talking to her son who had been getting into fights because some other kids had been saying his father was a bad cop. By the way Sofia Milos who plays Horatio's sister-in-law is apparently becoming a regular character from the Second Season onwards.
Mr Perfect
15-06-2003, 12:23
Originally posted by SC725
the final shot of the silhouette of Horatio walking down the hall was very well done IMO.
Yep, but the light was so bright in the corridor it made him put his shades on indoors, in a major character development arc which will probably span the next few seasons.
This is probably the only series that i can think where i am hoping the major character will die everytime i watch. Hope they don't kill him though coz then i'd have nothing to moan about.
robzinski
29-06-2003, 20:52
Watched the episodes from the 14th and last night today. Was there one on last week? Hmm.
Anyway, i thought both were good episodes, nearly on par with CSI.
How much did the woman who played Alison in the first ep look like Sherilyn Fenn? Spooky that.
jonathan.e
29-06-2003, 22:13
I give up. I was screaming at the TV last night because I hate Caruso so much. Half way through I thought "Why am I watching this?"
Mail me if they kill carrot top and I’ll re-consider watching again.
jonathan.e
29-06-2003, 22:15
On the other hand Law and Order was excellent as always and I only just realised that Adam Schiff is played by Steven Hill aka Dan Briggs from the original first season of Mission Impossible!
:notworthy
playaslaya
30-06-2003, 10:22
Watched Law & Order fro the first time this week and was very impressed. I like the way that it starts off with Benjamin Bratt & Jerry Orbach with the detective work and then skips to the DA and co for the prosecution stuff. Will be watching next week for sure. Who is the female prosecutor? She's not bad at all! :norty:
jonathan.e
30-06-2003, 10:34
Originally posted by playaslaya
Who is the female prosecutor? She's not bad at all! :norty:
Angie Harmon. She’s gorgeous and she’s MINE!!
Well I must say that for the last couple of weeks of CSI: Miami, the standard has been pretty high. The last 2 episodes have been pretty good IMO. Although, I did laugh at the bit last night, where Horatio took a good 20 seconds or so to say "Delco.............................run!". :lol:
One more to go...
I have to say I've enjoyed CSI : Miami. Sure it's had a few low spots, but then what series doesn't? I've started watching the original CSI now too, and whilst I acknowledge it is the better of the two series, it also has the advantage of being a couple of years further down the road production wise.
Caruso is a little wooden, but then he's not the only character. Now if only they could agree upon a crossover episode with Marg, Emily and Jorja on the same screen. ;)
robzinski
06-07-2003, 09:20
I thought it was another good ep last night. Might be worth going back and watching those early eps now that the characters apart from horatio have been filled in a bit more, as that was my main complaint early on.
Has CSI:Miami definitely been taken up for another season? Has its ratings been as high as the original, which I read in another thread were one of the highest in its timeslot.
DarkAvenger
07-07-2003, 15:45
Previously posted by robzinski
Has CSI:Miami definitely been taken up for another season? Has its ratings been as high as the original, which I read in another thread were one of the highest in its timeslot.
Yes, CSI:Miami has been taken up for another season, it achieved the second highest ratings of the season behind it's parent show CSI:Crime Scene Investigation. Interestingly the creator of both shows, Anthony Zuiker is planning to make another spin off series from these two.
Originally posted by DarkAvenger
Interestingly the creator of both shows, Anthony Zuiker is planning to make another spin off series from these two.
CSI : Margate anyone? :eek: :lol:
When is the episode with Ben Browder from Farscape due to be aired? (or did I miss it?)
Tyler Durden
07-07-2003, 17:24
Originally posted by Liggur
When is the episode with Ben Browder from Farscape due to be aired? (or did I miss it?)
It was on last week, and boy has he been 'eating all the pies', almost didn't recognise him ;)
Ben Browder from Farscape and a character called DJ Scorpius in the same episode - coincidence? :D
.....and let's not even mention Robert Beltran's (Voyager - Chakotay) one scene cameo :gag:
Originally posted by cervaro
Now if only they could agree upon a crossover episode with Marg, Emily and Jorja on the same screen. ;)
:clap:
The most amusing aspect of the back-to-back CSI's on Tuesday is seeing how scraggy Marg looked in the opening credits on S1 :p
Last episode of Miami tonight - just as I was starting to enjoy it :(
Has anybody got the 'Law & Order' computer game thats out?.
Originally posted by pjg
Last episode of Miami tonight - just as I was starting to enjoy it :( More importantly its the last episode in the current series of Law & Order - a far superior programme.
BlueDwarf
12-07-2003, 19:53
Law and Order is great.
Just going through the series one DVD now, and it really is superb.
Still waiting for that to finally come in at DVD Options - been "dispatched in 3-4 days" since early June :brickwall
Looking forward to tonights, looks like the Russian Mafia take no prisoners.
Good episode of L&O - and next week Law & Order: SVU starts :clap:
Hate to admit it, but I quite liked the finale to CSI Miami (awaits Forums lynch-mob to come a'knocking on the door).
Law & Order as always was fantastic, thought that Curtis' departure was a bit low-key. His wife's illness was mentioned in passing at the beginning and then at the end he was off, did not see that one coming.
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Hate to admit it, but I quite liked the finale to CSI Miami (awaits Forums lynch-mob to come a'knocking on the door).
Law & Order as always was fantastic, thought that Curtis' departure was a bit low-key. His wife's illness was mentioned in passing at the beginning and then at the end he was off, did not see that one coming. His wife's illness was also mentioned in the Julia Roberts episode in which he stated his intentions to stand by her.... and there were references in about 4-5 eps during the series (esp when he went away).
CSI: Miami isn't as annoying as it used to be.
Originally posted by 8-]
His wife's illness was also mentioned in the Julia Roberts episode in which he stated his intentions to stand by her.... and there were references in about 4-5 eps during the series (esp when he went away). Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I know that his wife's MS has been mentioned in several episodes in the past, what I meant was the way in which it was hardly mentioned in this episode. I think there was some passing reference at one point when Lennie asked how things were and he said that he would tell him later. Then no more mention until the end of the episode.
Still, I suppose that this is where this drama is strong; the personal lives of the characters is very much secondary to the case.
EP.#24 "Body Count"
Excellent. I think they saved the best for last. I really enjoyed the finalé (loved the link to a previous ep) and the standard has really gone up for the last few episodes. Hopefully the second Season will continue in a similar vein.
Excellent finish to CSI:Miami....
A great story by the writers handled very well considering ti involved children...
Looking forward to the DVD release already... :thumbs:
Originally posted by paul_caygill
Still, I suppose that this is where this drama is strong; the personal lives of the characters is very much secondary to the case.
That's why I very much liked Boomtown.
robzinski
13-07-2003, 21:56
I thought it was another good ep.
There is hope for the second season now!
I think they saved the best until last with CSI:Miami - a very good episode to end the series :thumbs:
I am looking forward to season 2 now and I never thought I would be saying that a couple of months ago :)
As a recent fan of CSI I was disappointed I missed CSI:Miami when it started but I see the first episode is on C5 tonight in the 9pm slot.
Looks like they might be repeating the whole season. Anyone know?
[Edit - looks like they are :clap: ]
jon smith
21-07-2003, 17:36
What happened right at the end of the last CSI episode. Missed the last 5 minutes with my Pace recorder.
CSI Miami second series could actually be decent at this rate.
Which episode do you mean? The last of the series? or the one last week?
jonathan.e
21-07-2003, 20:59
Originally posted by jon smith
CSI Miami second series could actually be decent at this rate.
As long as they ditch the cast and start again, then yeah.
jon smith
22-07-2003, 18:06
Originally posted by pjg
Which episode do you mean? The last of the series? or the one last week?
the last one of the series.
Originally posted by jon smith
the last one of the series.
It ended with Horatio posing just like the previous 23 episodes :lol: :lol:
Calleigh arrested Hank in a gunstore and twisted the barrel of her gun against his head.
In the other story Horatio found Suart Oltis after he snatched Emma's cousin they had a bit of a scuffle, Oltis fell over a balcony, Horatio pulled him up and then arrested him.
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