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fattyboombatty
31-10-2002, 18:44
buffy rules.
Yup, just watched it during my lunch hour. :)
Didn't spot any violence or nastyness edited out, though.
Oh, and Scrubs back on tonight too.
Boink!
I think they edited a few places, its been a while since i've seen it. However the scene where the head biker guy pulled the vamps head off seemed cut, and so did the end where you see buffy come alive in her coffin
fattyboombatty
31-10-2002, 20:08
:lol: @ sunnydale airport.
:norty: @ dawn
:p
fivebyfive
31-10-2002, 20:11
A few more cuts are: Willow killing Bambi and what spike says to Giles at the start
Also BBC showed the snake bit uncut but Sky one (who showed it at 8pm) cut it.
:nuts:
Can I assume the Friday night repeat will be uncut?
I should think it will be, BBC are good with the late night repeat normally
SqueakyG
31-10-2002, 23:28
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
:norty: @ dawn
... who was still 15 at the time this episode was filmed. :nono:
;)
And only 6 more episodes until you get to see the best ever episode, Once More With Feeling (the 7th Episode in the season). I wonder if they will show the full lenght version of this? I still can't stop playing the album in the car!
Did the BBC show the opening episode as one or is it over 2 weeks?
Originally posted by SqueakyG
... who was still 15 at the time this episode was filmed. :nono:
;)
Yeah, but what a 15 yr old :norty:
fattyboombatty
01-11-2002, 13:55
Originally posted by Kryten
Yeah, but what a 15 yr old :norty:
and i'm sure that's legal somewhere in the world.........which is good enough for me:p
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
and i'm sure that's legal somewhere in the world.........which is good enough for me:p
Just pop across the channel to France and it'll be quite OK. :nuts:
magicrat
01-11-2002, 17:34
Originally posted by Kryten
And only 6 more episodes until you get to see the best ever episode, Once More With Feeling (the 7th Episode in the season). I wonder if they will show the full lenght version of this? I still can't stop playing the album in the car!
Did the BBC show the opening episode as one or is it over 2 weeks?
It's over two weeks.
I'll have to remember to watch OMWF when it's on in a few weeks - one of the best episodes ever!
illusion_81
01-11-2002, 17:57
Originally posted by Kryten
Yeah, but what a 15 yr old :norty:
mmmmm Michelle.........:)
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
and i'm sure that's legal somewhere in the world.........which is good enough for me:p
Belgium!
Originally posted by Kryten
I wonder if they will show the full lenght version of this? I still can't stop playing the album in the car!
I hope that was a joke :shocker:
:thumbs:
Originally posted by nsb
I hope that was a joke :shocker:
:thumbs:
Yeah it must have been :nuts: :D
Originally posted by nsb
I hope that was a joke :shocker:
:thumbs:
No, but the album was only released a few weeks ago (also includes some music from other episodes). Its really addictive! Not on perm though, I do have a 6-disc changer and it is one of the discs that gets played on random.
Originally posted by Kryten
No, but the album was only released a few weeks ago (also includes some music from other episodes). Its really addictive! Not on perm though, I do have a 6-disc changer and it is one of the discs that gets played on random.
Yeah, right...
Originally posted by jamesking420
Yeah, right...
Somebody back me up here, I must not be the only person with the album?!?
Originally posted by Kryten
Somebody back me up here, I must not be the only person with the album?!?
I think there are a few people on here with the album (Carrotgirl springs to mind)
Me I thought the Episode sucked :D
Good to see the BBC showing the episode uncut tonight - a shame that they didn't show the 2-part series starter episode together. :(
Originally posted by Pentasa
I think there are a few people on here with the album (Carrotgirl springs to mind)
There's never a mod around when you want one ;)
Don't worry Kryten - I've got the OMWF soundtrack too! In fact, I asked for it for my birthday a few weeks ago and listened to it on the train to work for a number of days!
Supoib stuff! :D
illusion_81
02-11-2002, 09:41
Originally posted by Kryten
Somebody back me up here, I must not be the only person with the album?!?
I've got the album through unofficial sources :)
Feel no shame - I still listen to it after a year!
Originally posted by Kryten
Somebody back me up here, I must not be the only person with the album?!?
I have the album, just not in my car.
Its good :)
barcelona26051999
02-11-2002, 11:55
More Willow and Tara kissing and lying together in bed please!!!
Originally posted by mjb1975
Don't worry Kryten - I've got the OMWF soundtrack too! In fact, I asked for it for my birthday a few weeks ago and listened to it on the train to work for a number of days!
Supoib stuff! :D
:clap: At least I know I'm not mad then! Can't wait for the DVD. I really would like to see them remaster the OMWF ep into DD5.1 though if it were possible, it could really benefit as watching it on VHS/VCD it has a good DPL (converted to DPLII) soundtrack.
fattyboombatty
02-11-2002, 16:11
what does OMWF mean?
jonathan.e
02-11-2002, 16:15
Once More With Feeling - natch :p
Once more with Feeling.
7th epsode in season 6.
James
fattyboombatty
02-11-2002, 16:21
tanks, guys:p
Originally posted by jamesking420
Once more with Feeling.
7th epsode in season 6.
James
And make sure you don't miss this episode! It is the best ever episode of Buffy to date IMO. Also I hope for you that the BBC show it uncut (it is 51 minutes IIRC uncut (my VCD is 50:26) instead of the normal 44/45 minutes)
Originally posted by Kryten
And make sure you don't miss this episode! It is the best ever episode of Buffy to date IMO. Its good, but its no Becoming Part 2;).
Mandrill
02-11-2002, 17:45
Originally posted by Mr Nice
Its good, but its no Becoming Part 2;).
I doubt that episode will ever be suppassed.IMO the best ever episode.:thumbs: :notworthy
I actually preferred the episode after OMWF in season 6,
The one where (please dont even look at this out of curiosity if you havent seen s6! :) )
The one where Willow does the spell on them all and they all change persona's. Cant remember too much of it, but Giles and Anya kissed, i know that :)
DarkAvenger
02-11-2002, 18:03
The best episode of all time is "Hush" where they all lose their voices and the creepy Gentlemen float around Sunnydale stealing hearts. Superbly written, directed and scored, this episode leaves all others in it's wake.
Originally posted by nsb
I actually preferred the episode after OMWF in season 6,
The one where (please dont even look at this out of curiosity if you havent seen s6! :) )
The one where Willow does the spell on them all and they all change persona's. Cant remember too much of it, but Giles and Anya kissed, i know that :)
Spike is classic in that episode.
Especially the following line:
Oh listen to Mary Poppins! Got his crust all stiff and upper with that nancy-boy accent. You Englishmen are always so... (hearing himself) Bloody hell... Sodding blimy ******** knickers ******** -- oh no... I'm English.
(Edited for content just in case ;) The weren't exactly bad words, more PG-13 level
Becoming was good and Hush was excellent, but purely for the how different OMWF was (and my love of musicals!) it gets my vote as best.
Originally posted by Kryten
Spike is classic in that episode.
Especially the following line:
Oh listen to Mary Poppins! Got his crust all stiff and upper with that nancy-boy accent. You Englishmen are always so... (hearing himself) Bloody hell... Sodding blimy ******** knickers ******** -- oh no... I'm English.
(Edited for content just in case ;) The weren't exactly bad words, more PG-13 level
Becoming was good and Hush was excellent, but purely for the how different OMWF was (and my love of musicals!) it gets my vote as best.
You meant to add "shagging" and "********" to that I think.:D
Ridcully
02-11-2002, 21:01
And Spike's comments about Giles's car are very funny in that episode
Originally posted by Byron
You meant to add ... :D
Well actually I edited them out!
Has anyone seen the credits. I was watching some of the first half of the series tonight, and there are two guys on the credits with w4*k in there names, one being Thomas W4*ker - he does the music, and the associate producer's surname is W4*kum....
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but still, i repeated it a few times to get a freezeframe just to check my mind wasn't playing games :D
I thought I better edit the :norty: s, even though they shuold be kind of allowed ;) ;)
nododmanfairy
05-11-2002, 11:59
The BBC did not show a complete version of Bargaining
Comparing it to the uncut Sky 1 version, an entire scene where the Buffy Bot went to the school and was puzzled by a miniature town the kids had made was cut out, and also, when Anya hands Xander Giles' goodbye note, in the Sky version he reads it all the way through, in the BBC cut he reads the start of it, and the rest is a voiceover by Giles.
The BBC end credits stated the year it was made was 2002
The Sky end credits stated the year it was made was 2001.
The best episode is Passions, I think. I love it. Especially the Angel voiceover parts. Lovely. All of seasons 2 and 3 are great, though.
fattyboombatty
22-03-2003, 19:43
so no buffy again fo TWO WEEKS while the DICKHEADS at the bbc show spazmo games.
must kill all BBC2 scheduelers.....must kill all BBC2 scheduelers
:mad: :gag:
cjanderson
22-03-2003, 20:51
I still have all the episodes since 14th Feb on my tivo for watching, I just can't seem to get back into watching season 6 (which i have seen on sky already).
Must wait until I'm in the mood and then have a buffy fest!!
fattyboombatty
22-03-2003, 21:20
yeah, i get that way sometimes. i haven't watched the westwing s3 yet, but i have it on tape:rolleyes:
Did anyone see the late night repeat of Buffy last night?
I am sure that Spike described Xander using the name of the Buffy composer. Did anyone else here this or did I imagine it :)
how did this week's episode end?
I recorded the Friday rpt but my tape cut off as Anya was bending down to clear-up the Magic Shop
ta.
Originally posted by pjg
Did anyone see the late night repeat of Buffy last night?
I am sure that Spike described Xander using the name of the Buffy composer. Did anyone else here this or did I imagine it :)
Spike did say merchant banker. :thumbs:
I thought so :clap: :clap:
fattyboombatty
06-04-2003, 12:07
Originally posted by Richie
how did this week's episode end?
I recorded the Friday rpt but my tape cut off as Anya was bending down to clear-up the Magic Shop
ta.
i thought it was with willow and tara gettin' it on:thumbs:
nododmanfairy
06-04-2003, 14:42
Yes, at the end of "Entropy" (4/4/03) it ended with Tara and Willow making up and getting it on in Willow's bedroom.
so was that the only scene I missed? does that scene come directly after what I 'spoilerised'?
When's the next episode on? Can't find it on my Tivo programme guide
Originally posted by nododmanfairy
Yes, at the end of "Entropy" (4/4/03) it ended with Tara and Willow making up and getting it on in Willow's bedroom.
And IMO the last 4 episodes of Season 6 make up for the rest of the season. No spoilers but I don't think anyone will be dissapointed, just remember to record/watch the late-night uncut versions ;)
fattyboombatty
06-04-2003, 16:55
buffy is on every thursday 6:45pm. if its not on then, its not on at all. its repeated every friday night at about 12:/1:am, depending.
does anyone else think that the S6 dvd release was pushed back to may because bbc2 postponed buffy about 5 times?
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
buffy is on every thursday 6:45pm. if its not on then, its not on at all. its repeated every friday night at about 12:/1:am, depending.
does anyone else think that the S6 dvd release was pushed back to may because bbc2 postponed buffy about 5 times?
It looks like golf os on for you! They have just finished repeating this on FX here, but they do show 2 episodes per day :)
I don't think that the DVD's will be put back though.
Originally posted by ColinP
When's the next episode on? Can't find it on my Tivo programme guide
I think maybe there is a problem with the guide data for Buffy. My TiVo wasn't scheduled to record this weeks episode or any of the future ones when I went to upcoming episodes from the season pass. I had to manually tell it to record the episode :confused:
TheCookieMonster
06-04-2003, 21:13
Not on next week according to radio times. BBC are really starting to get on my nerves recently with the continuous interruptions to Buffy :mad: :brickwall
so it's off for 2 weeks, on for one, off again for another two weeks by the looks of it...
AAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
AND they are about to start the same crap with 24 as well.
I don't mind so much when they take it off to show something live like this week when there is a UEFA cup semi on or with 24 when it's the US Masters. It annoys me when they show rubbish like Robot Wars which could easily be shown instead of repeats of Simpsons or Fresh Prince rather than a first run episode of Buffy :mad:
nododmanfairy
07-04-2003, 15:39
If my calculations are correct and if indeed Buffy is not on for another two weeks, then BBC viewers will be able to see Grave before it is actually shown on TV on DVD.
Unless of course they have blasphemed and bought the VHS's.
EDIT
It's not back on till the 8th May!!!!! However, there is some interesting news about Season 7...
Buffy on BBC2 has been snookered by sport once more.
Due to various sporting events, including the Snooker World Championshiops, the Slayer won't be back on our screens until 8th May. The final four episodes should be screened uninterrupted after that.
Although it's not his fault, snooker star Steve Davis was kind enought to send this apology to the fans:
"I'm sorry so much of this 'interesting' web site gets devoted to snooker at this time of year - it won't be long before sci-fi hits back with a vengeance."
In other scheduling news, it appears that Season Seven of Buffy will debut in the late summer, around ten weeks after Season Six concludes. At present there are no repeats planned to bridge the gap.
Taken directly from the BBC Buffy website
Well at least they aren't gonna make us BBC viewers wait a year for the final season, that makes up a little for the interuptions I guess.
Very good news if it is starting that soon :clap: :clap:
fattyboombatty
07-04-2003, 22:35
and i'm just glad that i'll be able to watch all of season 6 on dvd before the dickheads at the bbc finaly get round to showing it.
DarkAvenger
08-04-2003, 18:10
What a bunch of idiots they are at the BBC. As far as I can tell next weeks Buffy has been shelved and replaced by none other than Top of the Pops 2, not sport as has been mentioned on the BBC website so this is just crap. And now I hear that it has been postponed until May 8th. Tossers! This is really annoying now and as such I have decided to watch the remaining episodes on DVD when it becomes available instead of watching the BBC screenings.
LIGHTRAY
09-04-2003, 19:34
Apparantly 24 is bumped for golf this week as well:(
Glad my mate lent me us episodes :clap:
Edit Sorry didn't see the earlier post re 24
Seems that TOTP2 is on every day next week. Some special editions presented by Rob Brydon.
I don't understand why they bothered bringing Buffy back for a week :confused:
fattyboombatty
08-05-2003, 18:07
well, it's back on, at last:rolleyes:
don't forget the friday night uncut repeat:thumbs:
has season 6 hit the shelves, yet?
36Degrees
08-05-2003, 20:17
Is it me or..
does it seem stupid puting Tara in the credits for the very first time and in the same episode she dies?
Todays episode was weird though, I didnt like it one bit until the last 10 minutes ish, just seemed an extensive sobbing story (although with Willow and Tara! :D:D:D) ... although the ending (spoiler alert DONT read etc)
finally someone with sence knows the proper way to kill someone, with guns, not with fancy fighting =) loved the geeks throughout it though, made me laugh - jetpacks! "Hey why dont I get a jetpack"
3 episodes left of this season, yay been one of the most boring seasons ever (despite there being a few class episodes, the rest are substandard)
ryonhilluk
08-05-2003, 20:17
I liked tonights episode.
The scene with the jet packs was brilliant. :clap: :clap:
Originally posted by 36Degrees
Is it me or..
does it seem stupid puting Tara in the credits for the very first time and in the same episode she dies?
As I've explained a few times before and will thus do so again
Joss said in the commentary to Welcome to Hellmouth that he wanted to put Jesse in the opening titles so it would shock people when he died, however back then they didn't have a big enough budget to have more than one title sequence in the first season.
Putting Amber Benson into the credits was his way of doing this. Didn't work on me thought, as I don't really notice mid-season credit changes until their pointed out to me.
LIGHTRAY
09-05-2003, 21:11
Is tonights (fridays) repeat where
Willow flays whatshisname alive ?
I wonder if it will be completely uncut by the BBC?
Not to sound ghoulish, but I've never seen the episode as it should be :)
EDIT : Just read the above spoilers in other threads, just figured
which episode it is. Just ignore me :nuts:
TheCookieMonster
10-05-2003, 13:54
Cheers LIGHTRAY :oh-hum: Why didn't you delete your spoiler when you knew it had nothing to do with tonights episode :brickwall
DarkAvenger
11-05-2003, 12:50
Well I just went ahead and watched the final four episodes of Season 6 on DVD yesterday and I have to say that these final four episodes are some of the best that I have ever seen and make up for some disappointments that have happened this season.
Originally posted by DarkAvenger
Well I just went ahead and watched the final four episodes of Season 6 on DVD yesterday and I have to say that these final four episodes are some of the best that I have ever seen and make up for some disappointments that have happened this season.
You got your boxset early :thumbs:
DarkAvenger
11-05-2003, 13:44
Previously posted by nsb
You got your boxset early
Certainly did get it early, always seems to be the case with DVD.co.uk. which is why I get most of my box sets from them (that and the price). Never seen these episodes before in Widescreen (saw the full screen travesty's on Sky) and must say they are absolutely superb.
nododmanfairy
11-05-2003, 16:04
I got it yesterday too, although I had seen all of the episodes previously I had never seen the final three in Widescreen. What a treat that was!
Commentaries are good, with the exception of the one on Hell's Bells, what the hell?!?!?!?!?!!?
Also the picture quality of these releases actually seems to improve with every season released. I am very glad to say that Buffy on DVD now lives up to the picture quality set by most big-budget movies.
BUFFY FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by DarkAvenger
Certainly did get it early, always seems to be the case with DVD.co.uk. which is why I get most of my box sets from them (that and the price). Never seen these episodes before in Widescreen (saw the full screen travesty's on Sky) and must say they are absolutely superb.
I also thought the Season 3 boxset of Angel had absolutely awesome transfer quality. I think I'll order Buffy now :clap:
nododmanfairy
11-05-2003, 16:32
It would be helpful if the people at Fox could spell Villains correctly though.
:lol: :lol:
DarkAvenger
15-05-2003, 17:46
Looks like no Buffy again on BBC2 next week. It's TOTP 2 again despite the fact that the BBC said that the last four episodes would be transmitted uninterrupted from May 8. Oh well it doesn't matter to me because I've already seen them on DVD, the BBC can go take a running jump.
I watched tonight's ep on BBC2 just for the fun of it, lol. I'd forgotten how great "Two To Go" was.
Obviously they cut the infamous scene at the end where Willow flayed Warren alive.
But I'm curious - what kind of a widescreen presentation was that?! (was it one of those cases where the BBC over-cropped the image or whatever?)
that was'nt widescreen as far as i'm concerned, i had to have my tv in 4:3 mode to see it all, and christ was that cut, even had a little filler program after it to waste some time
Rollo Tomassi
15-05-2003, 18:43
Finished with 7 minutes to go! I'll definitely be taping the repeat tomorrow night...
36Degrees
17-05-2003, 00:32
lol just watched the repeat :)
so much more tourture of warren, so much longer and so much better, better than just "Willow what have you done?" when the answer to that is just tied him against a tree .... lovely skinned alive... brilliant! =) Gooo Willow show them whos boss!
Two to go..
Oh name of the next episode too ;)
Originally posted by 36Degrees
lol just watched the repeat :)
so much more tourture of warren, so much longer and so much better, better than just "Willow what have you done?" when the answer to that is just tied him against a tree .... lovely skinned alive... brilliant! =) Gooo Willow show them whos boss!
Two to go..
Oh name of the next episode too ;)
Yeah, the uncut version is a lot better. I con only imagine how much they must have cut at 6pm on BBC2 from that episode! The next two episodes are superb, and IMO one of the best season finale's Buffy has had, you wont be dissapointed :)
Michael Mackenzie
17-05-2003, 08:28
There was so much cut that it didn't even resemble the original version. Here's more or less how it went:
Willow ties Warren to the tree. She asks him if he wants to know what a bullet feels like. He goes "No! No!" She says, "I think you need to." Cut to Buffy and the others running up. Buffy goes "Oh my god!" And then we cut back to Warren going up in flames. Willow says "One down" and leaves. The end.
I had my DVD running alongside it, and it was hilarious to see how often it went out of sync. They even cut Willow squeezing robot Warren's neck. :rolleyes:
fattyboombatty
17-05-2003, 09:41
excellent episode:clap:
willow rocks:notworthy
but what did she mean by "one down"? does she mean the other two from the troika, cos they didn't do anything to tara?
Michael Mackenzie
17-05-2003, 09:57
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
but what did she mean by "one down"? does she mean the other two from the troika, cos they didn't do anything to tara? Correct.
DarkAvenger
17-05-2003, 16:38
Previously posted by fattyboombatty
but what did she mean by "one down"? does she mean the other two from the troika, cos they didn't do anything to tara?
Guilty by association it seems, at least to Willow.
Rollo Tomassi
17-05-2003, 16:40
Originally posted by Whiggles
There was so much cut that it didn't even resemble the original version. Here's more or less how it went:
Willow ties Warren to the tree. She asks him if he wants to know what a bullet feels like. He goes "No! No!" She says, "I think you need to." Cut to Buffy and the others running up. Buffy goes "Oh my god!" And then we cut back to Warren going up in flames. Willow says "One down" and leaves. The end.
I had my DVD running alongside it, and it was hilarious to see how often it went out of sync. They even cut Willow squeezing robot Warren's neck. :rolleyes:
They also cut Warren hitting Willow in the back with an axe, some of Spike's attack on Buffy in the "previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer" bit, and even some of the dialogue in the prison cell :rolleyes:
I loved the "bored now" from Willow :D
Rollo Tomassi
23-05-2003, 09:25
Originally posted by DarkAvenger
Looks like no Buffy again on BBC2 next week. It's TOTP 2 again despite the fact that the BBC said that the last four episodes would be transmitted uninterrupted from May 8.
FFS! :mad:
BBC2's treatment of this season has been shocking :( TOTP 2 could surely be moved to a different timeslot!
its just ridiculous.
after going off for a fortnight because of snooker (which i can understand as its only once a year).
the final episode of the year disappears and is replaced by Amanda Holden's favourite songs...
absolutely absurd scheduling. The beeb have treated buffy appallingly this season. Given how they appear to be fast tracking the air dates of season 7, i feel that they are desperate to finish screening the show completely, given that there will be no season 3 repeat this year.
To be replaced by a programme which is not live or unique in nature such as sport is truly absurd and a disservice to loyal buffy fans and makes a mockery of the pathetic excuses wheeled out by the BBC on points of view recently.
nwgarratt
23-05-2003, 13:09
The Amanda Holden TOTP programme is also a repeat as it was on TV a few days ago, unless it is a second part.
Rollo Tomassi
23-05-2003, 13:18
Originally posted by nwgarratt
The Amanda Holden TOTP programme is also a repeat as it was on TV a few days ago, unless it is a second part.
It was on EVERY day this week :brickwall
Michael Mackenzie
23-05-2003, 13:57
Good god, I'm glad I bought the DVDs when I did. This stop-start style of broadcasting is a disgrace (as is that fact that you have to wait till after midnight to see it uncut).
Same here - when season 6 arrived I just sat down and watched the remaining episodes of the season and I am so glad I did now.
But if you feel strongly about it, email and complain. If enough people do, maybe they will take some notice.
fattyboombatty
23-05-2003, 17:46
and 100.
if we email enough will they let us stone to death the person responsible?:mad:
TheCookieMonster
24-05-2003, 15:21
I'm so peeded off with the beeb now :mad: haven't been able to watch the new series on sky as they've been so slow at broadcasting this series :brickwall
What's the email address to complain to the muppets?
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
What's the email address to complain to the muppets? http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/
I started watching at S5, up to ep 14 of S7 now. I really want to see the first 4 seasons though, so i'd really like some repeats :)
Originally posted by RobinL
I started watching at S5, up to ep 14 of S7 now. I really want to see the first 4 seasons though, so i'd really like some repeats :)
You've probably gone the best way about it if you start at S5 and still enjoy it cos the first 4 seasons are superb! :thumbs:
:) i dont have the cash to buy the dvds new. im thinking if i buy them second hand and them sell them again im not likely to lose much :)
Michael Mackenzie
25-05-2003, 22:28
In order of goodness, best to worst (in my opinion):
Season 2
Season 5 / Season 3 (tie
Season 4 / Season 6
Season 1
Haven't seen any of Season 7, apart from the first and last episodes, so I can't rate it, but what I saw looked pretty average, on a level with Seasons 4 and 6.
My personal rating of the seasons is (best to worst)
Season 2
Season 3
Season 5
Season 4
Season 7
Season 1
Season 6
I see that it is back on the BBC this week for you all (episode "Two Go Two"). Probably one of my favourite season endings of all of them.
Pity they are breaking them up though...
With the massive cliffhanger between the two episodes. They were shown back to back here in the US luckily!
Edited for spelling
Yeah, I think SKY|ONE over here showed the finale back to back aswell
Blank Frank
26-05-2003, 20:57
Originally posted by TheCookieMonster
I'm so peeded off with the beeb now :mad: haven't been able to watch the new series on sky as they've been so slow at broadcasting this series :brickwall
What's the email address to complain to the muppets?
I think the Beeb's treatment of ALL SF and fantasy in general, seems to be that it's only for mental defectives, friendless spotty adolescents and kiddies only and thus messes it around at the drop a hat.
fattyboombatty
29-05-2003, 00:47
bump for tonight, two 2 go:D
36Degrees
29-05-2003, 18:33
omg what an episode (two to go)
Giles at the end seemed to be VERY predictable, I just knew the second she said about power that Giles would come in and save the day because at the beginning on "Previously on Buffy the Vampire slayer" they had Giles leaving, they discussed every other apsect but giles... really annoying
Still an absolute class episode, still final episode next week, I expect a corny ending :)
Originally posted by 36Degrees
omg what an episode (two to go)
Giles at the end seemed to be VERY predictable, I just knew the second she said about power that Giles would come in and save the day because at the beginning on "Previously on Buffy the Vampire slayer" they had Giles leaving, they discussed every other apsect but giles... really annoying
Still an absolute class episode, still final episode next week, I expect a corny ending :)
Like I said earlier in the thread, this is one of my favourite season endings, and I can't believe you have to wait another week for the finale and...
the magic showdown between Giles and Willow
I suppose the previously on Buffy bit made it a bit predictable but Giles :notworthy :notworthy
Michael Mackenzie
29-05-2003, 19:02
Originally posted by pjg
I suppose the previously on Buffy bit made it a bit predictable but Giles :notworthy :notworthy Yeah, it really is amazing just how much the show improves for the last episode once he arrives. There does seem to be a pattern for Season 6: episodes 1-8, and episode 22, which feature Giles, are decent. Everything in between is pretty mediocre.
I liked it. Willow was GREAT. I much prefer her as a villan than a good guy now. In seasons 1-3 she was great, but now she just annoys me. A bit.
The duo were good, and so was Anya. Xander was alright, too. Buffy was as she normally is - so-so. Didn't have much to do, really.
Spike's bit seemed to detract from the action, though. Felt a bit out of place.
raymondlin
29-05-2003, 20:09
Season 13 ???
As for Spike, you'll see what his story line is and the effect next season.
Originally posted by raymondlin
Season 13 ???
Edited!
fattyboombatty
30-05-2003, 15:47
uncut episode tonight:thumbs:
TheCookieMonster
31-05-2003, 13:57
When Giles came on at the end I nearly cheered out loud :clap: what a comeback :notworthy
nwgarratt
31-05-2003, 15:22
I liked Giles line and the last episode is one of the best in the series.
'Back off, superbitch' was awful, though.
36Degrees
05-06-2003, 18:32
What an ending!
Classy ending
Although I felt annoyed that it resulted to "end of the world" rubbish, wasnt S1/S2/S3/S5 all end of the world too? (Not sure about 4, it probably was but havent seen it yet, DVD out in 5 days :))
Still simple yet effective ending which opens bags of question for Season 7
Michael Mackenzie
05-06-2003, 18:42
Didn't like the ending at all. As far as I'm concerned the show fell apart about half-way through Season 6 and never fully recovered. The whole thing was poorly set up and even more poorly executed. Don't get me wrong, they'd been foreshadowing Willow's magic addiction for ages, but as soon as she and Tara got back together it was obvious that a disaster was looming. The whole thing felt very rushed, with only three episodes for the season's real "big bad". I'm also ****** off about them killing off Tara -- after building up a character for nearly three years, it was a pretty pitiful end. Giles was cool though.
yeah, I'm pretty sure the were happy for her to stay but there were issues with the contract :( It was kinda unfortunate
Originally posted by 36Degrees
Although I felt annoyed that it resulted to "end of the world" rubbish, wasnt S1/S2/S3/S5 all end of the world too? (Not sure about 4, it probably was but havent seen it yet, DVD out in 5 days :)) Nah, Only S1/2/5 concerned the "end of the world", S3 and S4 didn't.
PS, S4 was out over a year ago;).
It was kinda dissapointing. The 'I love you' bit seemed more cringeworthy that touching, and I hated the Dawn/Buffy fight.
Still... I did like Willow, and Giles was good. Oh, and Anya. The ending was kinda neat, too, although it went off rather abruptly - BBC censors?
Okayish season, as a whole. I'm expecting better from the final one.
36Degrees
05-06-2003, 20:19
Originally posted by Mr Nice
Nah, Only S1/2/5 concerned the "end of the world", S3 and S4 didn't.
PS, S4 was out over a year ago;).
Will have to rewatch S3 ending then (on sky1 shortly, well in about 30 days), thought it was the end of the world jobbie, oh well still thats still 50/50 in terms of that :)
But its £39.99, S4 R1 is £28.99, as a cheap Student Communist £11 is uber amounts of money (plus my s1-3 are all r1, need consistancy) :)
I was very disappointed with the last episode. It was probably the best episode since episode 8 (when Giles left) but after some of the comments on here I had expected a lot more from the episode. Overall series 6 has been very poor apart from the first 8 episodes. I really hope series 7 is better as it would be disappointing for Buffy to end on such a low. :(
Originally posted by Mr Nice
Nah, Only S1/2/5 concerned the "end of the world", S3 and S4 didn't.
PS, S4 was out over a year ago;).
hmmmm well given the events of 'the wish' you could say that:
s1 dealt with the end of sunnydale and not with the end of the world, as the master rose. the master was around for a long time before that but didn't rule the world as we see in episodes of angel. end of season 1 the threat was buffy dying more than anything.
so 'i'd argue that season 2, 5 and 6 dealt with the end of the world and not season 1.
Look, I'm not going to bother spoiler protecting S1, that's just stupid:D. The thing is, that S1 ending wasn't just about the Master getting free, he was the cork in the hellmouth bottle as it were, it also meant the hellmouth opened, which traditionally has meant ergo end of the world(check out the mid S4 episode which ends with the Reilley/Buffy discussion about the plural of "apocalypse" for direct statements to the effct of open hellmouth==end of the world, though it's been pretty much implied since S1).
However, as you say, "The Wish" appears to contradict this. In principle the rift between the wish timeline and the normal timeline is merely that Buffy didn't turn up, which essentially means "The Harvest" came to pass. So maybe that method of freeing the master left the Hellmouth closed, compared to the Prophecy Girl method?
hmmm i see where you're going, but even if you view 'prophecy girl's' as an apocolypse scenario the main plot focus is the imminent prophecy of buffy dying. thats really what the whole episode deals with. Giles is willing to fight the master so buffy doesn't die etc.
so the apocolypse is really more of a subplot (that sounds strange now i've written that down) - see what i mean, or am i being completely mad??
:D
Originally posted by nashie
hmmm i see where you're going, but even if you view 'prophecy girl's' as an apocolypse scenario the main plot focus is the imminent prophecy of buffy dying. thats really what the whole episode deals with. Giles is willing to fight the master so buffy doesn't die etc.
so the apocolypse is really more of a subplot (that sounds strange now i've written that down) - see what i mean, or am i being completely mad??
:D I do see what you mean, Buffy is one of the few series which can pull of having the apocalypse as a sub plot:D(it does it even more so in "The Zeppo", S3 remember;)).
But all of the season enders have had big emotional baggage attached to them, that doesn't change the nature of what they are averting though:thumbs:.
Remember that the Master Escaping/Hellmouth opening plot had been brewing since Never Kill a Boy on the First Date.
fattyboombatty
08-06-2003, 04:29
Originally posted by Jelly.
'Back off, superbitch' was awful, though.
yeah, but thee most embarassing thing was "Dawn, will you help me?":oh-hum: jesus, that was terrible:lol:
and the "I love you" ending was a let-down:gag:
still, spike got his soul back:eek: :eek: :eek: wonder how that's gonna play, hmmmm:wave:
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
still, spike got his soul back:eek: :eek: :eek: wonder how that's gonna play, hmmmm:wave:
The effects are actually seen immediately in the first episode of the next Season, and the whole thing plays very well IMO.
I watched the finalé again cause I enjoyed it so much last year. Overall, I really enjoyed the Season.
The only thing that perhaps bothered me most was the absolutely MASSIVE change in Willow following Tara's death, where her attitude changed from one of sorrow and pain, to vengence. All her pain seemed to go away, and she was filled with the desire to kill. Maybe it was the side effects of the magic, I'm not too sure...But otherwise great stuff.
Blank Frank
08-06-2003, 07:48
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
still, spike got his soul back:eek: :eek: :eek: wonder how that's gonna play, hmmmm:wave:
It's not a spoiler to say that don't assume just cos Spike gets his soul back he's going to be a good boy all the time, a la Angel.
I mean, after all, bad stuff is still done by humans who have souls too, don't they?
And as you will see, other factors come into play in the final series.:thumbs:
fattyboombatty
08-06-2003, 14:11
Originally posted by SC725
The only thing that perhaps bothered me most was the absolutely MASSIVE change in Willow following Tara's death, where her attitude changed from one of sorrow and pain, to vengence. All her pain seemed to go away, and she was filled with the desire to kill. Maybe it was the side effects of the magic, I'm not too sure...But otherwise great stuff.
well, if someone had taken away my one true love i'd do everything in my power to destroy them, too. there would be plenty of time to grieve after.
Basically, Willow was overcome with anger at the death of Tara and this coupled with dark magic made her evil......once Xander and Giles' magic got through to her, she began to grieve.
There's an episode in season 7 that has a bit where it deals with Willow's feelings about this.......
fattyboombatty
09-06-2003, 08:53
how long are we going to have to wait for season 7 on dvd? i'm not going to watch it on the beeb anymore as they show no respect for the flow of the series:mad:
Safe money says this Autumn, in keeping with the 6 month release schedule they have kept up for the first 6 seasons.
S7 will be butchered on BBC2 anyway judging by some of the scenes that appear not only in the show, but in the "Previously On Buffy...." bits at the start of each episode.
fattyboombatty
09-06-2003, 14:33
Originally posted by Mr Nice
Safe money says this Autumn, in keeping with the 6 month release schedule they have kept up for the first 6 seasons.
so that might mean it will be released before S7 starts on bbc2:clap:
i'd love to able to see all of S7 before xmas. buffy is a great winter watcher:thumbs:
I'm planning on buying all of the Buffy DVDs later in the year when I get enough money together, and will try and watch them the same year too! Forgotten most of the episodes now, so everything will be much fresher and more appreciated in the long run.
Season 7 won't end till at least May/June at the earliest on the BBC anyway, so you would have probably had a long time watch the S7 dvds by then and hopefull Joss will have announced some sort of spin-off too.
hmmm, should end earlier than that.
buffy season 7 is scheduled for an early return.
so i would say it may well start in early september, so it could end on bbc2 around april.
Originally posted by Xenole
S7 will be butchered on BBC2 anyway judging by some of the scenes that appear not only in the show, but in the "Previously On Buffy...." bits at the start of each episode.
can't say that the beeb have 'butchered' any episodes of buffy before, they have had the occassional cut but nothing huge. certainly nothing to justify the term 'butchered', channel 4 'butchered' angel. you'd have people getting off the floor when nobody had been punched and stuff like that.
if there are cuts they get restored on the friday late night repeat.
only thing i criticize the beeb for is the chopping and changing in the schedule. i understand the sporting events but after going off for the stupid robot technogames and snooker it was then dropped in order to show a selection of amanda holden's favourite tracks on TOTP2....
that was 2 weeks after the snooker had disrupted it. that was inexcusable.
Still define that scene with Willow and Warren being cut for the early time slot as butchering. It's fantasy violence and not a copyable action like all the other kicks, punches, stabbings etc, but they seem to be left in most of the time by the BBC.....just wait till one of the episodes in S7 - they're going to have to chop a whole scene out for that one I'm guessing!
Any cuts made to a programme, no matter how small, is butchering it. If it's not suitable for that time slot, it shouldn't be on then.
hmmm, but the show gets a wide audience and like i said earlier they are occassional cuts which are restored for the friday late night repeat.
the fact is that if buffy had been shown at 8pm it wouldn't draw as big an audience.
if they cut the kid of stuff out that c4 did with angel and didn't give us an opportunity to see it uncut i would be annoyed but bbc2 do gives us that opportunity.
the scene in question probably was a little gross to be shown at 6:45 but i thought it was neatly cut.
if you just dropped it and put it on at 9pm theres some people who wouldn't be able to watch the show. the current situation should please everybody. cut if need be at 6:45, uncut at 11pm- midnight on friday nights.
Originally posted by fattyboombatty
so that might mean it will be released before S7 starts on bbc2:clap: Welll that's always been the case with the :gag:VHS:gag: releases;).
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