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Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 14:23
Bugg3r it!!!
You guys aren't around so I'm nabbing the 2000th reply of the thread. :p
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Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 14:23
Bugg3r it!!!
You guys aren't around so I'm nabbing the 2000th reply of the thread. :p
Thread stats:
User Posts
GarFra 666 :suspect:
kjn6371 528
Dr Hfuhruhurr 420
Nelson Crowe 101
Ravioli 88
ed rooney 63 :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 14:24
:lol: :nuts: :dork:
I can't even do that right! :wave:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Jayson Stark reviews the trades here (http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark_jayson/1588274.html) and gives the Red Sox top marks.
Indifferent about the Mets though. Seems strange as I read some ok things about a few of the players they got in return. :confused:
Interesting article. The problem with prospects is very few of the end up in the majors at the levels that people predicted for them and in that sense getting prospects as part of a deal is little more than a crap shot.
Sometimes you get a jewel, but by a large most of these prospects have occasional appearances in the majors if at all... more than likely they'll end up as trade fodder in other deals.
The Mets did get a few decent prospects, but they have a few things against them.
1. They still to prove themselves.
and more importantly.........
They are now lumbered with being in the Mets organisation!!!! :p
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
:lol: :nuts: :dork:
I can't even do that right! :wave:
:lol:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh now I understand why you identify with the Mets and are a Mets fan....................... they can't do anything right either!!! :p
Congrats on your 2000th's thread posts Doc :clap:.
Just been to see Legally Blonde 2,Reese Witherspoon :luv: :norty:.It's good having a daughter I can drag her to films and not look like a perv :D.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 16:14
Originally posted by kjn6371
Congrats on your 2000th's thread posts Doc :clap:.
Both of them :nuts:
And thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread, especially those named above.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Just been to see Legally Blonde 2,Reese Witherspoon :luv: :norty:.It's good having a daughter I can drag her to films and not look like a perv :D. Other than the perving is the film any good, I'm thinking of taking someone to see it.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 16:15
Originally posted by GarFra
The Mets did get a few decent prospects, but they have a few things against them.
1. They still to prove themselves.
and more importantly.........
They are now lumbered with being in the Mets organisation!!!! :p I know :oh-hum:
Perhaps they'll buck the trend.
Interesting that Stark's had such a downer on them though.
It's okay just wish they'd have had a break in the middle,little K-Man was trying to make a appearance especially after seeing Reese running/bouncing along a corridor :norty:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 16:20
I'll ask you again tomorrow when 'little k-man'* isn't trying to influence you.
*I can't believe I put that :nuts: :D
The image may still be on my mind though,searches for the DVD release date :nuts:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
05-08-2003, 16:25
It seems you need something to take Reese off your mind. A Mets game on NASN would provide the proverbial 'cold shower' I believe. :lol:
I'll leave you to your thoughts. :wave:
I worry about you two at times!!!!
Sometimes think you are starting to get sane, but then you both go off the rails again and get as crazy as me! :)
You really know how to deflate someone Doc.
No one's as crazy as you G,only real nutcases support the Indians :nuts:.
Originally posted by kjn6371
No one's as crazy as you G,only real nutcases support the Indians :nuts:.
Ain't that the truth!!!
Going insane ones support the Cubs
And ones that don't know any better support the Mets :p
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
It seems you need something to take Reese off your mind. A Mets game on NASN would provide the proverbial 'cold shower' I believe. :lol:
I'll leave you to your thoughts. :wave:
NASN have seen the error of their ways and not showing any Mets game soon :)
Current games to be shown is
6 Aug 12.00am
Seattle vs. Cleveland
6 Aug 7.00pm
Kansas City vs. Chicago White Sox
7 Aug 8.30pm
Pittsburgh vs. San Francisco
8 Aug 6.00pm
Baltimore vs. Boston
9 Aug 12.00am
Seattle vs. NY Yankees
9 Aug 6.20pm
Atlanta vs. St. Louis
9 Aug 9.00pm
Philadelphia vs. San Francisco
12 Aug 12.00am
St. Louis vs. Pittsburgh
Good News for Cubs fans .... Mark Prior was activated from the disabled list
Not so Good News for Cubs fans .... Mark Grudzielanek has been sidelined for two to four weeks after suffering a broken right hand.
My right hand's feeling a little tender after this afternoon :norty: :nuts:.
Originally posted by kjn6371
My right hand's feeling a little tender after this afternoon :norty: :nuts:.
Need to get more practise in so it doesn't hurt some much!!! .......
so I have been told!!! :nuts: :p
You'll go blind G,just look at Rav and his coke bottle glasses.
Anyone know decent places in UK that sell baseball shirts and the like??
Most places are asking for silly money, I have looked on eBay, but some of the stuff there looks well dodgy.
And the sites I have looked at in the US that ship to the UK are asking even sillier prices for postage.... MLB site being on of the worst for postage!!!
I NEED A SPELL CHECKER!!!
http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=213894.Somebody asked in this thread for NBA shirts but a couple do MLB shirts IIRC.You're best getting them yourself from the States on holiday or asking friends or family to bring you something back.
Tesco or Sainsbury's sometimes have special offers on toilet paper,it'll be a lot cheaper than buying a Indians shirt.
Originally posted by kjn6371
http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=213894.Somebody asked in this thread for NBA shirts but a couple do MLB shirts IIRC.You're best getting them yourself from the States on holiday or asking friends or family to bring you something back.
Thanks will check it out :)
Originally posted by kjn6371
Tesco or Sainsbury's sometimes have special offers on toilet paper,it'll be a lot cheaper than buying a Indians shirt.
Now, now play nice.... you know as well as I have more chance of sitting through all 3 major league movies than getting Indians toilet paper (bet there even is such a thing somewhere!) :)
Originally posted by kjn6371
You'll go blind G,just look at Rav and his coke bottle glasses.
That was a couple of years ago, I've got new glasses now ;)
Originally posted by Ravioli
That was a couple of years ago, I've got new glasses now ;)
pint glasses??? :p
Nelson Crowe
06-08-2003, 04:19
I'm guessing none of you guys owns the Twilight DVD or you'd never post here...
:D It takes pride of place in my collection Nelson.
On 'Around The Horn' yesterday they were discussing British sports figures they trotted out Steve Redgraves,Seb Coe,Daley Thompson until Woody Paige suggested Viv Richards :nuts:.I've emiled Woody to point out his mistake :D.
Originally posted by kjn6371
:D It takes pride of place in my collection Nelson.
On 'Around The Horn' yesterday they were discussing British sports figures they trotted out Steve Redgraves,Seb Coe,Daley Thompson until Woody Paige suggested Viv Richards :nuts:.I've emiled Woody to point out his mistake :D.
Ditto!!! :)
I know next to nothing about cricket, but even I knew that he had made a major boo-boo :nuts:
Can we stop all the quoting entire posts please which is starting to get a bit tedious IMO.I'm sure we're all intelligent enough to follow the points being made without the need for a post to be quoted.For example G you didn't need to quote my Woody/Viv post your answer was good enough for me to understand what you were refering to.
If you're refering to a specific point by all means quote it but not the entire post.I'm not in any way getting at anyone just getting it off my chest because it's starting to make me feel :nuts: :brickwall.Does anybody else feel the same or is it just me?.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Can we stop all the quoting entire posts please which is starting to get a bit tedious IMO.I'm sure we're all intelligent enough to follow the points being made without the need for a post to be quoted.
Depends when you post sometimes when there are a few of us on at the same time and posting at the same time I personally lose track of what reply is in response to what, but then this could be in part due to my concentration problems.
As for intelligence... you have to remember some of the teams people that post here support that in itself should answer that. :p
Originally posted by kjn6371
For example G you didn't need to quote my Woody/Viv post your answer was good enough for me to understand what you were refering to.
Personally speaking I often do this due to the fact I have a bouncing and desperate to get to the keyboard 10-months old daughter with me when I am replying to something and having the message I am responding to quoted makes it easier for me to keep track of what I am saying as often I have to disappear due to baby 'incidents', as was the case this morning.... how something that small can produce something that size and smell is beyond me. :nuts:
Originally posted by kjn6371
If you're refering to a specific point by all means quote it but not the entire post.I'm not in any way getting at anyone just getting it off my chest because it's starting to make me feel :nuts: :brickwall.Does anybody else feel the same or is it just me?.
By and large most people in this thread do tend to quote specific points, but sometimes when the actual message being quoted isn't that big it easier to leave well alone.
It never really bothers me if someone quotes the whole of part of a message I does give me an idea of what they are refering to and I can easily as not jump down to their reply.
Till you commented on it I never paid it much mind as to what people do if they quote whole messages or part of messages... so I guess it doesn't bother me. :)
Do any of the people here watch baseball played locally?
And more importantly are the games any good, often see stuff regarding baseball being played in the UK on Five and have decided to find out the nearest team to myself and pop along and watch a few games.
Just wondered what the standard was like and to see if anyone else here did watch local baseball or even played for any of the UK teams.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 11:30
Sorry I don't.
I notice that a fair few of the players are Yanks so perhaps the standard is reasonably high.
Was nice to watch the Indians last night (NASN need to feature them more), although we didn't get the win it was nice to see how the young players developing as the season has progressed when they come up to bat.
The main thing that surprised me was how patient a lot of the Indians batters are even though they are all pretty young, bodes well for the future.
The most funny thing for me doing the game was the reaction of C.C. Sabathia to some of the calls by the homeplate umpire after the third inning as he walked off the field, understandable (in my opinion) he was having a go at the him as he walked off the field and of all people on the Indians staff to restrain him I didn't expect it to be Milton Bradley who lead Sabathia to the dug-out and held his glove up to cover what Sabathia was saying :)
If anyone one wondering why this is surprising should see what happened to Bradley a couple of games ago when he himself disputed a call and was ejected from the game. He threw his bat and helmet in the direct on the homeplate umpire and he still waiting to see how many games he going to be banned for that little episode. :p
Ahhhh the joys of being an Indians fan :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 11:45
Originally posted by GarFra
The main thing that surprised me was how patient a lot of the Indians batters are even though they are all pretty young, bodes well for the future. I'd love to be able to listen into some of the "conversations" that go on during the game, whether it be between coaches/pitchers or players/umpires and managers etc.
I remember reading (in some of the Roger Angell books) that often the chats on the mound are just about pretty girls in the crowd etc. :D
Some of the in-game mikes can be quite interesting. :thumbs:
What I enjoy is when ESPN mike up a player for a game some of the comments that they show are great fun, I bet there is quite a lot of stuff that they dare not show :)
One of my favourite moments was a game on Five when the coach was mike'd up and so they could listen in to what he said to the pitcher when he was in a bit of trouble. But for me the best part was when he was walking back to the dugout he spoke into the mike to wish his mother happy mother's day...... pure class :clap:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 11:52
The one I found funniest was when one of the players gave a running commentary in the style of Harry Kallas (??) the Phillies braodcaster. Spot on. :thumbs:
Hey Doc, seem that NASN are going to give your Mets another outing :)
13 Aug 12.00am - San Francisco vs. NY Mets
either that or they are hoping for a few home runs from Bonds :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 12:49
All I need now is NASN :D
Seriously how do you guys find the time to watch it?
I admit it I have no life! :p
Actually if you look on the NASN website you'll see that quite a lot of the games they show start 6-7pm and the 9-10pm with other games like on five starting around midnight-1am.
As for the games most of them I can get either live or the re-live when it is shown later in the day.
There's always time for baseball Doc.
Nice post count Doc,who's been a naughty boy then :nono: :lol:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 13:18
Very true - I need to reprioritise! :D
Baseball at 6pm or 9pm does sound good.
Originally posted by GarFra
pint glasses??? :p
The beer goggles come in handy sometimes ;)
Isn't that what the women who know you say Rav?.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Baseball at 6pm or 9pm does sound good.
Not according to my wife it doesn't.... :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 14:07
I can believe that.
I thought she'd done you in when you went missing for a bit after the 3 game opening day marathon. :D
Grow a pair G,who wears the trousers in your house?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 14:18
His wife, G wears the skirts (or so I've heard). :suspect: :nono:
I think they're called kilts Doc.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 14:21
:lol:
But have you seen what he wears underneath? :eek:
erm, no, neither have I
Originally posted by kjn6371
Grow a pair G,who wears the trousers in your house?.
Actually today everyone is wearing shorts!!! :p
Be very glad I don't inflict a picture on you!! :D
I'm sure Doc and Rav would have appreciated it G :eek:.
Can we have a picture of Mrs.G in her shorts?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:20
:nono: K
anyhoo........
looks like Appier is getting picked up by the Royals (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=1590957)
By releasing him the Angels were responsible for his salary this year and next - $15.6 million :eek: :nuts:
His career era is quite respectable at 3.73 IMO
[edit] I agree with K - we want Mrs G pics ;) :wave:
Come on G get those pics uploaded,little K-Man's getting impatient :norty:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:26
:eek:
K-Man, you're scaring me.
Or is that scarring me?
;) :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:29
Piazza return delayed (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=1589080) :|
tbh I'd put him thru waivers and see if he can be traded.
There's no way we'll compete next year anyway and we've proved that we can't sign the right free-agents for toffee.
Was I right in thinking that A-Rod is making rumblings about wanting to be traded?
Done a quick search and couldn't find anything,why was your post count reset Doc?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:34
I answered back to teacher.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:36
I see the Cubbies have made a bit of ground and Prior seemed to have a good outing last night.
Do you reckon they've got enough to catch St Louis and Houston?
Originally posted by kjn6371
I'm sure Doc and Rav would have appreciated it G :eek:.
Can we have a picture of Mrs.G in her shorts?.
No chance!!!
I wanna live :)
No I think it's too late this season,next season the players will be more used to Dusty and vice versa and hopefully push on.We've done a lot better than I expected already this season and if we can keep our young pitchers we should do fine in the future.
If Appier does go to the Royals, I think they will only need to pay him something like $100,000 which is kinda weird when you consider the money he has been making.
Even stranger is that effectively the Angels will be paying him this year and next year not to play for them, could you ever imagine such a thing happening in football???
I think the board at Sheffield Wednesday pay their players not to play :lol:.
My main worry with the Cubs is their pitching... not the actual pitchers who I happen to think are some of the best young pitchers out there, but from the risk of over using them.
Would be nice to see the Cubs in the world series, only thing nicer would be to see the Indians there :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:44
Even though they're only 2.5 games out kjn?
They must have to play each other again too.
Garfra, that's what I meant. $15 million not to play. Mind you the Mets are paying Bobby Bonilla $40 million not to play. Oh, Steve what a genius you were. :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:45
Originally posted by kjn6371
I think the board at Sheffield Wednesday pay their players not to play :lol:. I can think of a few players I would have paid not to play. :(
As kjn says it probably a season too early for the Cubs, would be nice to see them make the playoffs, but I can't honestly see them going too far if they did make it there.
Mind you saying that look at last years world series :)
Talking of players being paid not to play etc etc.
Any idea what is the most a player has been paid even though he no longer plays.... Bobby Bonilla $40 million has to be the highest I have heard of anyone know of similar or even higher ones?
Nice job if you can get it mind :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
06-08-2003, 15:52
It is over something like 30 years though. I did read that it did make good monetary sense for the Mets but I wasn't quite sure how. :nuts:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Piazza return delayed (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story?id=1589080) :|
tbh I'd put him thru waivers and see if he can be traded.
Barring the injury to him I suspect Piazza would have probably been playing for another team by now (favourites being Baltimore). Piazza wants to be a catcher as long as possible and the injury probably saved him having to try moving to 1st base. He says all the right sounds about happy to move there etc etc, but somehow I doubt he would or really wants to.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
There's no way we'll compete next year anyway and we've proved that we can't sign the right free-agents for toffee.
I think you might be surprised with your Mets next year. Look at the deals your replacement GM has done and the money he has managed to off-load this season already. You also got a few half-decent prospects in some of those deals.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Was I right in thinking that A-Rod is making rumblings about wanting to be traded?
Yeah A-Rod said something along the lines if his wages was hurting the team to compete then perhaps they should consider trading him (or something like that).
If he was really wanting to help his team compete then he should renegotiate his contract and defer payment of some of the money like Shilling and Johnston have done with the Diamondbacks and Clemens has done with the Yankees.
Piazza want's Pudge's record for most career homers by a catcher so I think he'll wait until he gets it before moving to 1b or DH.
Originally posted by GarFra
I think you might be surprised with your Mets next year.
Don't be cruel G,tyring to raise Doc's hopes,you know the Mets are going to stink next season.
You also have to consider that Piazza is a media-animal and loves to be in the limelight.
Being the catcher he is able to do this as he is on screen a lot of the time when Mets games are on tv, he would have less coverage at 1st base.
Saying that I do like to listen to him when he is on tv. :)
I like the advert with him on NASN selling the baseball shirts (don't bother... the P&P is horrendous)
Originally posted by kjn6371
Don't be cruel G,tyring to raise Doc's hopes,you know the Mets are going to stink next season.
I figured if I lied to him he would keep posting on this thread and we would get to laugh at him next year as well :p
Now Doc you just ignore kjn, your Mets will do some great stuff next year :nuts:
Originally posted by kjn6371
Come on G get those pics uploaded,little K-Man's getting impatient :norty:.
You wanna borrow a set of my beer goggles?
No thanks Rav,nice of you to offer though.
Originally posted by Ravioli
You wanna borrow a set of my beer goggles?
Far safer would be to give him 'Don't Panic' sunglasses ala Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy!! :nuts:
Doc, something that might interest you about A-Rod over at SportingNews.com.
Great article by Ken Rosenthal on the benefits of the Rangers trading A-Rod and protential teams that he could go to.
Well worth a read ---> here (http://www.sportingnews.com/voices/ken_rosenthal/20030804.html)
Trade News
Yankees and Mariners swaped their setup men - Jeff Nelson has gone to the Yankees and Armando Benitez along with cash considerations has gone to the Mariners.
Both players cleared waivers and in doing so allowed the trade to take place past the July 31 deadline.
Interesting trade, seems the way to get traded to the Yankees is to bitch in public about how your teams management failed to pick up any trades before the trade deadline as Jeff Nelson did. :)
Nelson Crowe
07-08-2003, 03:48
What in the name of Casey Stengel could the Mariners possibly be thinking?!?
As effective as he is, Nelson left NY under a none-too-plesant cloud after tangling w/ Torre.
I think this should conclusively prove that there is no real American League. It's just a bunch of teams sitting around waiting for the Yankees to call and ask for what they need. It's just like it's 1958.
How about some opinions on how the Eisenhower-MacMillan summit's going to go? :lol:
Roger Angel is the best baseball writer I've ever read, bar none.
The Jeff Nelson, Armando Benitez deal does strike me as a strange one to make.
No matter how you look at the deal the Mariners are coming off worse in this deal. Nelson might have run his mouth off about the Mariners not trading, but so what thats no reason to trade one of their better players.... and for what?..... Armando Benitez!!!!!
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 08:50
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
Roger Angel is the best baseball writer I've ever read, bar none. Same here Nelson. The way he describes the game and people involved in baseball is fantastic....
...I'm not doing a very good job at conveying why he's so good, I just love his writing though. However, if I could only have one book it would be one of his. :)
Hey Doc
Check this out :)
--------- W- L -PCT--GB-
Cleveland 46 67 .407 14.5
New York 46 67 .407 28.0
Which of us do you think will end up with the better record come the end of the season?? :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 08:54
The problem for the Mets next year is that if they are to compete they need to bring in several free agents i.e. couple of pitchers, a couple of infielders and an outfielder. However, their track record in this area has been a little poor recently. :D
The one advantage you have going into next season is that your current GM actually appears to know what he is doing, mind you considering some of the moves your old GM made that wouldn't be that hard.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 08:57
Renewed interest in the season now I've seen those stats.
Come on you Mets!!!!
tbh I don't know enough about Cleveland to say categorically who will finish the best. However, I'll say the Mets based on Piazza's return.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 09:02
I might apply for the Mets GM job. :nuts:
Doc what will be fun is basically we both have something to watch for our teams.
Okay so neither of our teams are going to make it to the World Series this year (or the next couple), but at least this season I have a target as do you :)
Lets see which of our two teams ends up with the better record, hey its better than nothing ;)
So what do you think?
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I might apply for the Mets GM job. :nuts:
I can't believe I am saying this........ :gag:
but you can't apply for the job.. as you actually know something about baseball!!!! so that rules you out :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 09:17
Originally posted by GarFra
So what do you think? I bet you a "virtual" pint we end up with the better record!
Thomas Boswell's probably my favourite sports writer.
Did you catch ATH and the end credits Woody said something about Viv Richards being born and British.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I bet you a "virtual" pint we end up with the better record!
:thumbs: Make mine a fresh orange juice as I'm driving (my wife nuts) :p
This will make the rest of the season interesting for me at least :)
Kevin Appier signed with the Kansas City Royals on Wednesday and is due to start against Devil Rays on Friday.
It'll be interesting to see how he does the rest of the season and also next season, I wonder if the Angels will regret giving him his unconditional release?
Time will tell :)
Originally posted by kjn6371
Did you catch ATH and the end credits Woody said something about Viv Richards being born and British.
I heard him shouting something out, but couldn't hear what he was saying.
Be interesting to see whereabouts he was born now.
Also wasn't the episode shorter?? :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 09:36
I find Angell a bit more lyrical than Boswell.
oooh, hark at me with my fancy phrases :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 09:40
Originally posted by GarFra
:thumbs: Make mine a fresh orange juice as I'm driving (my wife nuts) :p
cue tumbleweeds :D
Originally posted by GarFra
This will make the rest of the season interesting for me at least :) I don't think we need to see the "DVD Forums" division. Nelson would be slightly in the lead. :|
Are any of you going to vote on the choice of game on Five?
I thought about voting for the Yankees game just so Gould wouldn't be able to see his Braves, but then again I would be voting for the Yankees :|
Going to do a 'Brewsters' Millions'.... none of the above :p
I know that we all support certain teams (no accounting for taste), but do any of you have 2nd and 3rd teams that you like to see win and key an eye on their results?
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 10:08
Not really, although I'd quite like the Cubs and Red Sox to do well.
Like it when teams like the Royals, Twins etc manage to put one over the big boys.
Found myself following the Indians and Blue Jays too for some reason. :wave:
Kinda weird.... myself I watch the Cubs and Red Sox as well and as much as I joke about them I like for the Mets to win also.
I also like Baltimore, the teams I like for some reason all have nice stadiums (in my opinion) :P
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 10:16
In a way I wish I'd followed someone other than my beloved Mets. I don't like the fact that they have the ability to spend their way to succes - in theory!!!!!!
But I only started following them because I was a NY Jets fan and wanted another NY to support when I got into baseball.
Needless to say the Yankees weren't an option. :gag:
Nelson Crowe
07-08-2003, 10:35
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I don't think we need to see the "DVD Forums" division. Nelson would be slightly in the lead. :|
:thumbs: 74-39 after last night's revenge thumping of the Brewers. Marcus Giles hit two homers, breaking a window with one (and assuring himself of getting a bill for $423 in the mail from Wedy Selig in a week or two...:rolleyes: ) and Andruw Jones hit one in the next county.
Nelson Crowe
07-08-2003, 10:41
Originally posted by GarFra
I know that we all support certain teams (no accounting for taste), but do any of you have 2nd and 3rd teams that you like to see win and key an eye on their results?
The Red Sox and Orioles. I have always liked the Orioles (Ken Singleton was a big fave in his playing days. Now he's a Stepford Broadcaster for the Evil Empire) and I fell in love w/ the Red Sox Nation idea in the mid-80's, alas.
Were you w/ the Mets in those dark days of October, 1986, Doc?
More than that, I just watch other teams to see former Braves, because with a very few exceptions, I still like those guys. I feel like we were once involved in a common endeavor.
I was, for example, sorry to see Michael Tucker injured. He was a fine player with Atlanta, and I will always treasure seeing him turn Kevin Brown's fastball around in the 1998 NLCS and instantly shut 50,000 people's loud mouths.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 10:44
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
:thumbs: 74-39 No need to gloat Nelson. :nono:
;) :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 10:47
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
Were you w/ the Mets in those dark days of October, 1986, Doc?
What do you mean dark days? Aren't the dark days any period that Bobby Bo played for us. :|
I wasn't. Can't put a finger on when I started following them - late 80's early 90's I guess. Just as they started their downturn. :nuts:
I keep an eye on the Giants, as I think Barry Bonds should get a ring before he retires. I also like the Mariners, mainly because Ichiro Suzuki is my favourite player around at the moment.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 11:58
Bonds is too arrogant for my liking so it wouldn't bother me if he didn't get a ring.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Bonds is too arrogant for my liking so it wouldn't bother me if he didn't get a ring.
You'd be arrogant if you were the best player that ever lived ;)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 13:11
I know it's very difficult to know for certain about people but someone like, erm, A-Rod comes across a hell of a lot better than Bonds and A-Rod ain't a shabby player.
Case in point is the difference in how they spoke to Jenny Finch on TWIB.
Bonds came across as a git tbh.
No-one should be like that with Jenny. :nono:
:D
Jenny Finch's a tart though Doc who wears make up applied with a trowel.
Rav I think you're suffering from sunstroke if you think Bonds is the best player who ever lived.
2nd team for me are the Bo Sox,I like underdogs :nuts:.They've had great players in the past like Ted,Pudge,Yaz,Dewey etc plus Fenway is a great ball park.
3rd team for me are the White Sox purely because of Pudge.
Viv Richards was born on the 7th March 1952,St John's,Antigua.Perhaps Woody though it's a British colony and Viv has been knighted but I wouldn't class Viv as a British citizen.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 13:37
Could he be British now though?
And we'll have less of that talk about Jenny!!!!!! :mad:
No I dont think he is,his son is though IIRC.
Have you booked your ticket's to see Damien Rice Doc?.I'm seeing him in Brum early November I think.Have yo seen him before and is he good live?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 14:36
:(
I didn't even know he was touring. Now you're going to tell me you've got his new album as well.
I've not seen him live - just that clip that you saw on TV. By all accounts he's excellent though. :thumbs:
[edit] just been on damienrice.com (http://www.damienrice.com) and the Birmingham gig looks like mid-Oct. Manchester or Leeds for me.
there's some downloads on there too for live gigs :)
It was advertised a few weeks ago in my local paper,I only caught it by accident.I wish I'd posted about it earlier now,I hope you can manage to grab some tickets for somewhere near you.
I knew it was around that time,my social calenders very full,it's hard to keep track of things.
After seeing the Sky thread in the general section are you any nearer getting your dish?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 14:47
They've moved venues in Leeds so there should be some ticket left there.
Not done anything about the dish yet. September would be a good time as my cricket finishes then and the play-offs aren't too far off.
btw, cricket tour mainly got washed out :(
Past your way on the A5 :nuts:
I think's that when I booked my tickets when you was on your tour,Probably why I never mentioned it at the time because you weren't posting.
The rain was for the best though Doc,your average would have gone way down otherwise :thumbs:.
I've got the thread on e-mail notification but I've not had one at all this afternoon,is it not working :confused:?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 15:10
I couldn't tell you k-man as I only have internet email so I don't have "notification" on.
Before last night I'd had 3 ducks on a row. :(
You're improving then Doc :lol:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
07-08-2003, 15:24
They were quality ducks though. :help:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
In a way I wish I'd followed someone other than my beloved Mets. I don't like the fact that they have the ability to spend their way to succes - in theory!!!!!!
But I only started following them because I was a NY Jets fan and wanted another NY to support when I got into baseball.
Needless to say the Yankees weren't an option. :gag:
I guess once you pick a team its hard to change :)
Myself I support the Washington Redskins, so how I came to support the Cleveland Indians is beyond me. :p
I suspect it has a lot to do with my old man working there for a few years before I was born..................... a long LONG time ago :D
Originally posted by Ravioli
I keep an eye on the Giants, as I think Barry Bonds should get a ring before he retires. I also like the Mariners, mainly because Ichiro Suzuki is my favourite player around at the moment.
Actually as much as my wife hates baseball she actually has a Giants jacket that she picked up when we were in San Francisco.
I would have gotten to see either a Giants game or an Angels game as we were doing a week in each city, but she asked to have the cities changed around S.F. first the L.A. .... and cause of this I missed seeing either team as they were on road trips when I arrived in each city!!!!
She still to this day denies she planned it, but I have never quite believed her about this :)
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Bonds is too arrogant for my liking so it wouldn't bother me if he didn't get a ring.
Actually Bonds not getting a ring would be kinda funny :lol: Probably the evil streak in me there.
As for Bonds being the best player that ever lived, doubtful very doubtful.
How can you compare eras etc etc, you also would have to take in changes that have happened in baseball like the lowering of the mound and how ballparks have brought the fences in etc etc.
As for best ever I don't think you could ever choose one player,would you have a pitcher or a slugger or a top class defensive player.Each could be equally valuable to their teams.
IMO it would probably by Ruth who probably saved baseball after the trouble with the Black Sox,even if you know nothing about baseball you've probably heard about the Babe.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Jenny Finch's a tart though Doc who wears make up applied with a trowel.
Rav I think you're suffering from sunstroke if you think Bonds is the best player who ever lived.
I did say it with a ;)
No doubt he is one of the best to ever live anyway. I mean who else is in the 500/500 club :D
Originally posted by kjn6371
IMO it would probably by Ruth who probably saved baseball after the trouble with the Black Sox,even if you know nothing about baseball you've probably heard about the Babe.
He no doubt is the best known player, but then Beckham is the best know footballer in the world :p
Sorry about the quoting btw kjn ;)
Originally posted by kjn6371
IMO it would probably by Ruth who probably saved baseball after the trouble with the Black Sox,even if you know nothing about baseball you've probably heard about the Babe.
He no doubt is the best known player, but then Beckham is the best know footballer in the world :p
Sorry about the quoting btw kjn ;)
Yeah you should be :nono: ;).But Ruth's put up the numbers to match the hype unlike DB.
Just checked the Babe's stats and was shocked to find he only won 1 MVP award :eek:.
Nelson Crowe
08-08-2003, 05:02
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
What do you mean dark days? Aren't the dark days any period that Bobby Bo played for us. :|
I'm referring to the 1986 Worls Series, i.e. Nirvana for Mets fans and a bleak day for those of us who love the Red Sox and/or have a long historic grudge against the Metropolitans (I qualify on both counts.)
Bobby Bonilla played in Atlanta in 2001 and got numerous clutch hits. It was a joy having him around.
Nelson Crowe
08-08-2003, 05:15
There were some exceptionally short fences in parks when and where Ruth played. For one thing, Yankee Stadium was built to accentuate his power, with the short porch in right field. Places like Fenway and Wrigley, which date from that era, show you how close some fences were.
Others were very long, of course. It was something on the order of 480 feet to dead center at the Polo Grounds in NY. That famous film from the 1954 World Series where Mays makes the over the shoulder catch on a dead run, he's a long, loooong way away from the plate. Conversely, the spot in the same park where Bobby Thompson hit the pennant winning homer three years before was right down the line, which was less than 300 feet.
Ruth was an amazing talent, one of the legends of American sport and did essentially save the game w/ his skill and personality. But it's hard for me to picture him getting out of a time machine, facing Clemens, Mulder or any other top flight pitcher and dominating them like he did the guys of his own time. Plus, (and people always roll their eyes at me when I bring this up, such is American denial of history), Ruth never faced a chunk of the polulation which had some people good enough to get him out. I'm not suggesting he'd have hit .258 with integrated competition, but we'll never know, and it taints his records, just a little, for me.
Bonds is on that short list of men who could dominate a game with their sheer greatness. Baseball, unlike most other sports, resists domination by a single player. Really great players can transcend that.
Also back in those days if the ball bounced and went out, wasn't that considered a home run rather than a ground rule double?
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 08:18
Where have I heard that before? ;) :D
Well as you watch the same baseball programs as myself and probably read the same websites, it's not that surprising :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 08:51
Did they pinch that off espn too, like they normally do?
I don't know why they don't just cut to the website between innings! :D
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 09:46
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
I'm referring to the 1986 Worls Series, i.e. Nirvana for Mets fans and a bleak day for those of us who love the Red Sox and/or have a long historic grudge against the Metropolitans (I qualify on both counts.) I realised that Nelson. Obviously they are anything but dark to me. :D
17 years is along time ago! :eek:
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
Bobby Bonilla played in Atlanta in 2001 and got numerous clutch hits. It was a joy having him around. Not at the Mets. He stands as everything that is wrong with the Mets. :oh-hum:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Did they pinch that off espn too, like they normally do?
I don't know why they don't just cut to the website between innings! :D
Well it would have more personality than the presenters at the moment........
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 10:21
I actually think that David Langel ?? has improved tbh. In fact I would go as far as to say I don't mind him. :p
That's when I don't fast-forward the breaks. :D
And he talks with a funny New York accent. :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 12:10
From Jayson Stark's page:
Reports that Mike Piazza has requested that the Mets trade him appear to be overblown. But a friend of Piazza says that if the Mets decide this winter to shop him, he would be open to being dealt to a limited number of clubs -- especially if he could wind up in a desirable AL location as a catcher-DH.
I'd trade him if possible. The guys 35 and wants to catch for part of the year at least, whilst the Mets want him at first.
The Mets have a couple of decentish catchers at the mo' too.
How about a trade with Texas involving A-Rod? :nuts:
You seem pretty keen to get A-Rod Doc,I thought Reyes was the future at SS for you?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 14:05
We should have got him first time round.
I think New Yorkers demand a star and he's certainly that. On the basis that Reyes is the future short-stop (and he's doing nothing to alter that view) who do you reckon the Mets should make a play for kjn?
Alternatively, we could move Reyes to 2nd base ala Soriano.
I don't know but have the star players worked for you in the past few years.The likes of Mookie,Nails,Darling,Ojeda weren't exactly stars but they helped to win it all.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 14:44
I know exactly what you're saying.
Even big stars like Doc and Daryl were home grown.
The problem is a win now attitude. If their isn't a decent team then the locals let 'em know.
If we could get a bona-fide superstar then at least the fans know that the ownership are serious. Yes, Piazza is such a star but the fact that he's a catcher means his shelf-life will be limited and I'd rather have a specialist first baseman tbh.
Vladimir Guerrero is such a star, but I'm not sure whether he'd like New York. The beauty of A-Rod is that he's (supposedly) a Mets fan. :thumbs:
Whether he'd wait for the Mets to become competitive again is another matter.
A-Rod will be in the HoF before the Mets are competitive.
Guerrero would be a good fit but it would be daunting for him moving to the Big Apple after Montreal.Somebody like Sosa would thrive in New York,he'd play up to the crowd and seems comfortable with all the media attention.
It also doesn't help having the Yankees across town,willing to splash the cash and being able to draw the names in.
It must be like that in Sheffield with the Blades and the Owls.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 14:58
:nono:
Oooh, you are naughty!!!
Trying to wind me up with your contentious posts. :lol:
contentious
Have you swallowed a dictionary Doc?.Just stating the truth though.
106 post's already,it wont be long before you've padded your way to a 1,000.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 15:10
I'm actually more intelligent than my posts suggest. :D
Unfortunately your Blades/Owls one isn't contentious. We've always been the bigger club but our debts now make us unable to compete.
lol, shall we report him for padding ;)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 15:13
Originally posted by kjn6371
106 post's already,it wont be long before you've padded your way to a 1,000. Ooh, now that is contentious.
My posts are 100% quality!
If you say so Doc,though the evidence suggests otherwise ;).
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 16:25
Originally posted by kjn6371
If you say so Doc,though the evidence suggests otherwise ;). hmmm....
...you're obviously in league with the dark side :nono:
;) :D
Well I have got a nice tan at the mo ;).
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-08-2003, 16:29
If I'm still around ;) I'll speak to you Monday. :)
Have a good 'un. :thumbs:
Bye Doc,hope the Owls win :lol:.
O/T but a big :thumbs: up to Chris Turner for saying the Owls are one of the ten biggest teams in the land,he want's to get on the stage I can see a great future for him as a comedian.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
11-08-2003, 08:23
Top 5 ;)
Could you send me some of what you've been smoking please Doc?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
11-08-2003, 13:55
I'll just give my dealer, Chris, a ring! ;) :D
Anyway, has 'owt interesting 'appended in the old baseball world this weekend?
Other than the Ch5 game, obviously :nono: which I'll be watching "as live" tonight. :)
Can you translate old chap,I don't understand your northern sayings.Do you really speak like you're a extra in Emmerdale Doc?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
11-08-2003, 14:01
ee bi gum, i do that lad :nuts:
A-Rod's moved to the Mets Doc in case you missed it.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
11-08-2003, 14:18
:lol:
Yes I'd missed that!
I did see that Reyes is hitting .295 which is a considerable improvement on his first few weeks in the bigs. :thumbs:
I think G's had his computer privilages stopped again ;).
Wiggy and Reyes should provide you with a good infield if they continue to show the progress they have so far.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
11-08-2003, 15:25
Perhaps the NASN issue has reared it's ugly head. :D
Jason Phillips is hitting .322 too and with Piazza back sometime this week the Mets just might manage to push the Indians (and G) into the Forums wooden spoon position. :nuts:
Piazza played first base for two innings Sunday during his fourth rehabilitation assigment with Norfolk.
Mike caught the first seven innings and played 1st for the rest of the game,it was the first time he'd played 1b since 1993 with LA.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 08:43
How many HRs at catcher does he need to break the record?
Managed to watch Sunday nights game and it was a good 'un.
Nice to see Pujols maintain his hitting streak with that HR off Smoltz. See his streak is at 25 games with another HR last night. :thumbs:
And an unassisted triple play too. :nuts: Considering they're so rare it's not the most spectacular of events. :D
Not quite sure why you'd have the pitcher swinging when there's a double steal on though. :nuts:
Other news - KC had 11 doubles in ther win over the Yankees last night. Looking forward to the Ch5 game and seeing the Royals. :)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 10:30
The Cubbies lost a crucial game to the Astros. I think they at least need to split this series or even win the 4 remaining games.
Kerry Wood became the fastest pitcher to 1000 K's. :thumbs:
I hope Piazza doesn't go on to break Pudge's record,I'd rather it went to a catcher who hit rather than a hitter who catches.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 13:18
I think you're going to be disappointed I'm afraid. I think Piazza will agree to a move to first on the basis that he sees enough games behind the plate to surpass Pudge.
He's got his heart set on it.
Talking to yourself again Doc?
I don't think Piazza has many to go tbh.
Though I'm not sure how many of his 354 have been while catching......
I'm going to buy a AL team and have Piazza as my DH,only a few more pennies to go.All donations appreciated.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 13:21
I'm always talking to myself :(
Anyone would think you guys had something better to do. :oh-hum:
:D
I could be in my pool surrounded by the ladies.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 13:27
Surrounded by babes and chatting with geeks like Rav on the internet - you truly live it up. :D
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Anyone would think you guys had something better to do. :oh-hum:
:D
Not better, unfortunately it's what I get paid for :(
Having just looked at a Mets forum :eek: I noticed that Piazza has only ever played 1 innings at 1B in the majors, so I guess all his HRs were as catcher!
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Surrounded by babes and chatting with geeks like Rav on the internet - you truly live it up. :D
Oy speak for yourself I'm no geek!
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 13:34
That's what a geek would say!!!
Only joking Rav :)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
12-08-2003, 13:41
Just been looking at the standings - what's happened to the Jays, Rav?
And in the race for the Forums wooden spoon the Indians have a one game lead over the Mets. :|
Cleveland 50 69 .420
NY Mets 48 69 .410
Just asked on a Mets newsgroup ( I feel so dirty) and Mike need's 7 to pass Pudge,let's hope he fails to make it.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Just been looking at the standings - what's happened to the Jays, Rav?
Was always going to happen with our pitching :(
Dr Hfuhruhurr
13-08-2003, 09:26
Originally posted by kjn6371
Just asked on a Mets newsgroup ( I feel so dirty) and Mike need's 7 to pass Pudge,let's hope he fails to make it. Seven - that's just a good week for him! :thumbs:
I see Bonds got to 650 last night in the Giant's loss to the Mets........
Dr Hfuhruhurr
13-08-2003, 10:11
Do you think he'll catch "The Hammer" Rav?
Nelson Crowe
13-08-2003, 11:33
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
And an unassisted triple play too. :nuts: Considering they're so rare it's not the most spectacular of events. :D
And then we lost the game... :mad:
(Actually, the last game the Braves pulled a TP, [an around the horn job, with a bouncer to third for a force, then a throw to second and on to first] a few years ago, they lost that one, also. No more TPs...)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
13-08-2003, 11:45
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
And then we lost the game... :mad:
As at Mets fan I had tears in my eyes. :|
;) :D
What's happend to Larry's hitting? :eek:
Sheffield (incidently the city where I live) looks awesome. That line drive HR flew out of the park.
The Mets will probably sign him next year and he'll slump. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Do you think he'll catch "The Hammer" Rav?
If he stays fit ;)
Jayson Stark in his column said he think's Pete Rose will be the new Reds manager next year,your thoughts?.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Do you think he'll catch "The Hammer" Rav?
Don't you want my opinion Doc? :(.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
13-08-2003, 13:31
Of course kjn! :)
Just thought Rav was around and might have replied straight away.
Re: Rose - I don't think he should be allowed anywhere near management again. The guy bet on games he managed. :oh-hum:
I can't stand the man but credit where it's due like a fine wine Bond's improves with age.His homer last night of Weathers was just a tap but it soon cleared the fences.
At least he won't have to put up with all the dreadfull racial stuff Hank had to deal with when he himself passed the Bambino's record.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
13-08-2003, 15:19
hmmm... .. wonder how he improved :suspect:
Good win for the Cubbies last night :thumbs:
Originally posted by kjn6371
Jayson Stark in his column said he think's Pete Rose will be the new Reds manager next year,your thoughts?.
Please no!!! The man is a tosser, great player in his day but a complete and utter tosser.
As for managing again!!.... allow him back into baseball to get him into the hall of fame (if thats really what people want), but allowing him the chance to manage again could (and I suspect would) lead to more problems than it was worth.
So what would happen if he was again to (allegedly) bet on baseball games? ... kick him out of baseball again? .... ahh, but would they then allow him back in again and so go round in circles.
The man to my mind is more in love with himself and the publicity that surrounds him due to his ban from baseball.
Lastly, before they allow Rose back into baseball I would rather baseball had a look at the other players that are banned from baseball before him. Do something about those players before getting round to Rose.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Just asked on a Mets newsgroup ( I feel so dirty)
Sand blasting is the only cure for that :p
Originally posted by kjn6371
Mike need's 7 to pass Pudge,let's hope he fails to make it.
It'll happen sooner rather than later, but what then? Will he stay as catcher and add more homeruns to strech the total (even if he has to move teams (all Mets fans now cheer)) or will happily move to 1B?
Somehow I think he'll move teams just to stay part-time catcher and DH.
Bit strong G,so he bet on a few games,it's not as if he murdered someone.
Perhaps a bit strong, but he gambled on games where he could have possibly altered the outcome by a decision he made and in doing so possible gained himself some money.
It should also be known that by all accounts Rose hasn't stop gambling on sports and only recently was seen in a gambling den in 2 Las Vegas casinos.
Braves have acquired left-handed reliever Kent Mercker from the Reds for a player to be named later.
Guess Atlanta had to upgrade its bullpen somehow if it hoped to get to the World Series.
Surprised no one else picked him up off waivers before Atlanta got the chance.
Nowt wrong with betting on your team to win imo.
NOOOOOO!!!! Not Jeff Weaver for the Yankees on C5 again!!! Hopefully C5 will get me a showing of The Rocket or Mussina instead of always beeing Weaver or Wells :p
Nelson Crowe
14-08-2003, 06:26
Originally posted by GarFra
Braves have acquired left-handed reliever Kent Mercker from the Reds for a player to be named later.
Guess Atlanta had to upgrade its bullpen somehow if it hoped to get to the World Series.
Surprised no one else picked him up off waivers before Atlanta got the chance.
He finished out the game tonight, pitching a scoreless ninth. He's still the last Brave to throw a no-hitter (against the Dodgers in 1994) and he had the lion's share of the one before that (7 innings then gave way to Wohlers and Alejandro Pena) in 1991.
I've been to two MLB games in my life and one was Kent's major league debut, in Atlanta in 1990.
Nelson Crowe
14-08-2003, 06:28
I will absolutely guarantee that when and if this happens, Aaron will blow people away with his graciouness and support.
He took so much garbage in '73 and '74 that he will be eager to help Bonds avoid a repeat of it.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 08:18
Originally posted by Ravioli
Nowt wrong with betting on your team to win imo. But what if he altered his line-up or starting pitcher on a particular night because he was betting on that particular game. He's influencing not only the current game but the next few games too. Is that fair to the other teams who would reasonably expect the Reds to turn out certain pitchers etc on certain days? I don't think so.
That would be his prerogative. It's not like they don't announce the pitching rotation before the games. So anyone betting on the game should know who is playing. I would certainly check before betting.
Plus I'm sure once teams have no chance of reaching the playoffs they might field a weaker team, to give fringe players a run out, plus motivation to win must go down. Is this fair on other teams, playing wild card chasing teams?
O/T Nice result for Hartlepool last night,still it leave the league for you to concentrate on Doc :lol:.
UP THE BLADES
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 09:56
Players get rested all the time. What if he just happens to rest his star player on day A instead of day B?
No one would know.
And the teams trying out fringe players is an accepted part of the game. Doesn't happen prior to September when the rosters are increased - unless you're the Mets of course. :|
Anything that taints the game is wrong IMO.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 10:01
Originally posted by kjn6371
O/T Nice result for Hartlepool last night,still it leave the league for you to concentrate on Doc :lol:.
UP THE BLADES :mad:
Seriously, I don't think it's a bad thing to get a kick up the @rse this early in the season. It may make the players and fans realise that it's not going to be easy getting out of the division.
Could have done with the money from a cup run though. :(
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 12:33
Big night for Piazza in return to Mets
The Mets were boosted Wednesday by the return of Mike Piazza, who went 3-for-5 with a homer and five RBIs in New York's 9-2 victory over the Giants. Piazza's efforts were more than enough for Steve Trachsel, who allowed only two San Francisco runs in 7 2/3 innings for his 11th win of the year.
Looks like Mike eased himself back after injury. :thumbs:
Do you think the Owls and Blades will ever ground share Doc,I know there's been talk in the past?.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 13:27
There was even talk of merging at one point!!! :eek:
I think ground-sharing has become more of a possibility bearing in mind the dire financial straits the Owls are in. They are currently trying to sell off their training ground to Asda but the council are refusing planning permission at the mo'.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
Looks like Mike eased himself back after injury. :thumbs:
How many homeruns does he need now? ;)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
14-08-2003, 15:08
Seven (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/news/nym_news.jsp?ymd=20030813&content_id=481179&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyn) behind :thumbs:
Cleveland Indians have a new cyclist :p - Travis Hafner hit for the cycle against the Twins.
This is the 1st cycle by a Indians player in 25 years. What I loved reading about it was that before he came up to bat in the 8th to try and get the cycle his teammates were point out places in the park for him to hit the ball to get to third base for the cycle. :D
He ain't the fastest player you are likely to see playing baseball :p
Dr Hfuhruhurr
15-08-2003, 08:51
So he needed the triple to finish off the cycle and he managed it.
Very impressive. :thumbs:
Nelson Crowe
15-08-2003, 11:12
Originally posted by GarFra
[B]Cleveland Indians have a new cyclist :p - Travis Hafner hit for the cycle against the Twins.
This is the 1st cycle by a Indians player in 25 years.
I heard that on Sportcenter. Andre Thornton did it in 1978. My first reaction to that was: Andre Thornton hit a Triple? :gag:
If you don't remember him, Andre was a solidly built power hitter for the Tribe in the 70's and early 80's. A good player and a good man. But not speedy.
The last Braves cycle was in '87. I was surprised that a team had had a longer drought.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
15-08-2003, 11:41
The Mets are capable of such droughts! :|
When was the last time they had a no-hitter?
Oh right, never! :nuts:
Nelson Crowe
16-08-2003, 07:46
A good night for me. My Braves laid the wood to Randy Johnson (he's 3-5 in the regular season against them, and should be 3-7. I can specifically remember him twice leaving games trailing and being bailed out by his offense...)
Also, Tom Glavine won his 2nd game in a row, for career victory #250. He's in select company, now. :clap:
Glad to see Glavine getting his 250th win, I get the feeling it will take him longer than he expected to get his 300th win with the Mets.
I think the Mets are gonna have their work cut out for them over the next few seasons.
Can't quite see Gavine reaching 300 myself maybe late 280's tops,still it should be enough to get him in the Hall.
Nelson Crowe
17-08-2003, 06:34
He's only the 9th lefthander ever to get that far, and most of those in front of him (Warren Spahn, Steve Carlton, Carl Hubbell) are in the Hall. The worriosme thing to me is that both Jim Kaat and Tommy John are ahead of him, as well.
I think Tom's HOF credentials are solid (250+ wins, 10+ more in the post season, including a 4-3 record in the World Series, World Series MVP in '95, tossing 8 innings of one-hit, shutout ball [over an offensive juggernaut] to clinch the series, starting pitcher in two consecutive All Star games [first in the NL since Robin Roberts in the 50's], two Cy Young Awards, seven years apart and five 20 win seasons.)
Nelson do you think Jack Morris will ever reach the Hall?.
Nelson Crowe
17-08-2003, 10:48
Probably, after they make him wait a bit, but I'll be damned if I say a good word about him.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
18-08-2003, 12:37
Is there a reason for that Nelson?
ps - the Mets in fifth straight win shocker!!!!! :eek:
I'll wager a guess at Game 7 of the 91 World Series Doc :D.
Talking of wagers just checked the history page of my betfair account I've made £1,694.59 on baseball this season :eek:,shame the season's coming to a end.Still that's next years holiday money,Wrigley here I come :clap:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
18-08-2003, 13:17
Originally posted by kjn6371
I'll wager a guess at Game 7 of the 91 World Series Doc :D.
That's what I thought but it's a bit harsh just cos he pitched a beauty of a game.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Talking of wagers just checked the history page of my betfair account I've made £1,694.59 on baseball this season :eek:,shame the season's coming to a end.Still that's next years holiday money,Wrigley here I come :clap:. Bl00dy hell!!!!!
Your email tips to me were obviously going to the wrong address!
;) :D
Originally posted by kjn6371
Talking of wagers just checked the history page of my betfair account I've made £1,694.59 on baseball this season :eek:,shame the season's coming to a end.Still that's next years holiday money,Wrigley here I come :clap:.
Just as well you don't play in the majors then ;)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
18-08-2003, 14:19
oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh, controversial :D
Originally posted by Ravioli
Just as well you don't play in the majors then ;)
Just call me Pete ;).
Re:Jack Morris I can't think what other reason Nelson would have against him,and I agree it was a great game I found it on tape a few weeks ago,be nice to see MLB release it on DVD.
Nelson Crowe
19-08-2003, 03:59
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
That's what I thought but it's a bit harsh just cos he pitched a beauty of a game.
"Harsh" is my middle name. :razz: :norty:
I had liked Morris when he was with Detroit and I value the contribution to all of humanity that he made by helping beat the execrable San Diego Padres in the 1984 World Series. I just can't get over the sight of him throwing that junk and getting the Braves out, inning after inning.
John Smoltz, age 24, with 4 years experience in the majors, who had idolized Morris growing up in Michigan, stood toe-to-toe with him for 7 innings. I would like to see him get some credit for that on occasion.
Plus, Morris had signed with the Blue Jays before the confetti was swept up. Nice guy. (His record in the '92 Series? 0-2.)
I just hate him. I never said I thought he didin't deserve to be in the Hall. But if he gets in, that will make Kaat, Blyleven and especially Tommy John's exclusions all the more galling, considering their relative places on the wins list.
The guy from that team who has no business in the HOF is Kirby Puckett.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 09:46
As regular readers will be aware I think the HoF sucks anyway. Why do they have to bestow this "honour" on people. Does one less hit than someone else really make them less worthy of "greatness" - I think not.
The examples that you give Nelson are cases in point. And Puckett got in on a sympathy vote I guess.
I'd have just been happy for people to be "discussed" as being great - arguments down the pub about who you thought was the best etc. I mean, everyone knows that Piazza is the greatest catcher, ever!!!
/runs and hides :nuts:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 09:47
The Mets won their sixth straight folks. :thumbs:
Trachsel pitched his second one hitter of the season - the only hit he gave up was to the opposing pitcher. :oh-hum:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 09:54
KJN, it looks like the Cubbies are in with a shot for the division. It looks like no-one wants to take control though. Fingers crossed. :thumbs:
And even more excitingly it looks like the Mets have surged into a half game lead (I think - can never work this out) in the DVD Forums battle to avoid the wooden spoon. :D
NY Mets 54 69 .439
Cleveland 55 71 .437
Nelson Crowe
19-08-2003, 10:31
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I mean, everyone knows that Piazza is the greatest catcher, ever!!!
That's a Bobby Van... :rolleyes:
Actually, if you say "Mike Piazza is the best hitting catcher ever." I'll go along w/ that. Average and power. Can't argue with that.
But I saw Johnny Bench and Carlton Fisk in their primes and those guys had both ends going. Bench revolutionized the position.
Who's hat will Mike wear on his plaque, Doc? Maybe Florida :lol:
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 10:44
I was joking Nelson. ;) :D
When I was trying to find out how many HRs he needed to catch Fisk I came across this link (http://www.baseball-statistics.com/Greats/catchers.htm)
Fisk only gets an "honourable" mention!
I do think they make a good point about the way Piazza handles the pitching staffs. Shame he's so poor at throwing runners out.
Not sure about the Florida reference - do you think he's on his way then?
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
As regular readers will be aware I think the HoF sucks.
Someone think's highly of themselves,I didn't realise I was one of your loyal readers Doc :nuts:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I mean, everyone knows that Carlton Fisk is the greatest catcher, ever!!!.
:thumbs: Can't argue with that Doc,about time you wrote something sensible for a change.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 15:30
I know you hang on my every word kjn. ;) :D
And changing quotes is naughty. :nono:
Originally posted by kjn6371
I think very highly of you, I'm proud to be one of your loyal readers Doc :notworthy:
:thumbs: Can't argue with that Doc, you're always writing something sensible You're most kind kjn.
:wave:
Small things amuse small minds Doc :oh-hum:.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
19-08-2003, 15:53
I think you've got me sussed! :D
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I've got something to confess,I'm not really a Mets or Owls fan,I really support the Yankees and the Blades.I just didn't want you all to think of me as a glory hunter.That feels better to get it off my chest
:eek: Wow I'm pretty shocked at your statement Doc,but nice of you to own up,I certainly don't think you're a glory hunter if fact you've proved you've got good taste by supporting good teams :wave: ;).
Doc you'll be pleased to know that 'Moose' Mussina was named the AL Player of the Week.He pitched 17 scoreless innings in two starts.He became the fourth Yankee to win the award this season.
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
As regular readers will be aware I think the HoF sucks anyway. Why do they have to bestow this "honour" on people. Does one less hit than someone else really make them less worthy of "greatness" - I think not.
The examples that you give Nelson are cases in point. And Puckett got in on a sympathy vote I guess.
HoF is there purely to make people argue on the merits or lack of on the players that are or are not in the HoF.
When it comes down to it, it is only the opinion of the people allowed to vote that dictates who goes in and who made them these so called experts.... is there a HoF to get into the HoF voting?? :)
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I'd have just been happy for people to be "discussed" as being great - arguments down the pub about who you thought was the best etc. I mean, everyone knows that Piazza is the greatest catcher, ever!!!
/runs and hides :nuts:
er Doc...... it ain't April Fools day yet!!! :cuckoo:
The Chicago Cubs acquired infielder Tony Womack from the Colorado Rockies for minor league pitcher Enmanuel Ramirez.
Catching up on the baseball news I been reading some of the stuff about Ted Williams :(
The whole thing is a farse and some of the stories about what they have done to his body are terrible. :gag:
Anyone else been reading about it?
Yeah pretty sickening,his head's been cut up,some of his DNA has gone missing.I hope John Henry is pleased with himself,from what I've read Ted wanted his ashes to be scattered in Florida where he fished for many years.What kind of son goes against his father's last wish.
My view of the Hall has gone downhill since I found out Woody Paige gets a vote.Even Doc knows more about baseball than Woody ;).
One who doesn't give a damn. :oh-hum:
I also heard about the Florida thing as well... they should have done what he wanted and not what the son wanted.
The thing about the DNA missing is really weird, I just been reading an article about what some of his baseball friends think and most of them are disgusted and say this is total against what Ted Williams was about.
I thought Woody Paige voted on the NFL HoF not the baseball HoF??
Perhaps he votes in both.......... would explain a lot!!! :p
Have you a link for the Williams article G?.
Woody recently said he voted for the Baseball HoF when discussing Rose,perhaps that explains why some Mets players have got in :suspect:.
Its on the USAToday site the article you want is this one (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/columnist/bodley/2003-08-18-bodley_x.htm)
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