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Nelson Crowe
23-09-2003, 00:24
You sound like Steve Stone, Doc :nono:
When you consider how baseball has changed over the years the ability to win 15 (or more) games a year for that amount of time is amazing.
There are records in baseball that people say will be hard if not impossible to break. I can see this being one of those such records what with the way baseball has changed and is now more in favour of the batter rather than the pitcher.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Maddux at the end of the season... will he stay with Atlanta at a reduced wage or will he move on.... will he get 15 wins next season...
Nelson Crowe
25-09-2003, 06:43
Gary Sheffield recently passed Henry Aaron's Atlanta record of 128 RBI that had stood since 1966 (the team's first year in Atlanta.) The franchise record is Eddie Mathews' 135 in '53 (first year in Milwaukee, strangely enough...)
Gary's reaction was interesting. He wasn't that pleased, because he talked about how his grandfather had always loved Hank and had taught Gary to look up to him. Gary said he felt bad eclipsing any of Hank's records.
I thought that level of regard for the game's history was really interesting, especially considering the generally bad reputation he has in the press here, largely among people who don't know him and haven't ever really tried to.
According to reports Manager Jerry Manuel will not be retained by the Chicago White Sox.
Nelson Crowe
27-09-2003, 06:35
It's also generally thought tha Larry Bowa's had it in Philly.
Scott Rolen's gone forever and now so is Bowa. They backed the wrong horse :nono:
These kind of taskmaster managers never work out, long term. Never.
I am surprised by the Jerry Manuel reports, hardly surprised if Larry Bowa goes though... the last couple of weeks there has been nothing but stories about him and the players not talking etc etc.
Come on the Brewers :clap:.
Sammy :notworthy.9 straight 100 rbi seasons :notworthy.
Nelson get ready we're heading your way :thumbs:.
Come on 5-0 :clap:,we're on a roll.
The Cubbies Win The N.L. CENTRAL. :clap: :notworthy :clap: :thumbs: :D.
BRING ON THE BRAVES,YOU'RE GOING TO GET SCALPED
DUSTY BAKER'S RED AND BLUE ARMY
Sammy,Woody,Prior,Lofton,Karros,Clement,Miller,Matty,Alex,Mark :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy
DUSTY BAKER'S RED AND BLUE ARMY
Nelson Crowe
28-09-2003, 01:28
Admiral Ned's troops did a number on Houston. If you can't beat the Milwaukee Brewers, at home...you have no business in the playoffs. Sorry, Jimy.
I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Javier Lopez for setting a new season high for home runs among Catchers.
He hit his 42nd today, breaking Todd Hunley's mark, set in 1996. I love Javy and I'm happy it was him, but I'm simply glad someone else has that record, because as good as Hunley was that season, it was his only great one. It's bothered me ever since that the Catcher's record wasn't held by Roy Campanella, Johnny Bench or Mike Piazza, the truly great offensive Catchers.
(Of course, all things being equal, the mark would be something like 58 and would be held by Josh Gibson ;) )
I have a funny feeling that kjn is happy about something......... just can't put my finger on what it is though :p
It was indeed nice to see Javier Lopez had broken the record for home runs by a catcher... I must say I didn't realise it was held by Hunley I figured it was held by Piazza or a similar catcher... Hunley I would never have thought of as the record holder.
Glad we got rid of Hundley,it never worked out for him in Chicago and when he went to LA he started bitching about the Cubbies.Shame he wasn't as good as his Dad.
G get a Braves image ready,I can feel another sweep coming :thumbs: :wave:.
Nelson Crowe
28-09-2003, 09:59
I'm not crazy about the matchup (Moises Alou is as clutch as clutch can be), but A SWEEP? :rolleyes:
Lay off the distilled spirits, mon ami :nono:
Time will tell Nelson,although it could all end in :cry:.
Originally posted by kjn6371
G get a Braves image ready,I can feel another sweep coming :thumbs: :wave:.
I think you better go back to your Doctor (keep away from that quack doc) and get him to lower your medication.... you are clearly imaging things!!! :D
But just to be on the safe side I'll have the image ready ;)
Dr Hfuhruhurr
28-09-2003, 17:49
Well done to the Cubbies. :thumbs:
And congrats to the Mets for winning the Forums 'spoon. :nuts:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
And congrats to the Mets for winning the Forums 'spoon. :nuts:
Hey at least you managed to win something!!.... and tomorrow I'll present you your prize! :p
Where's Doc's prize G?.
Are you worried yet Nelson?.In game 1 Kerry's on the mound.In 5 career games v the Braves he's 2-0 with a 2.14 ERA.
Looking forward to the decider in game 3 with Prior v 'Mad Dog'.
Doc's prize will probably be a day late due to the fact that I been out all day :)
It's manager hunting season!!!
1. Mike Hargrove's contract will not be renewed by the Baltimore Orioles.
2. Jerry Manuel was relieved of his duties as the Chicago White Sox's manager..... why can't they just say they fired him!!
I get the feeling there will be a few more in the days to come.
Mark Grace has announced his retirement from baseball as a player.
I have always liked the guy as he always appeared to be having fun whenever I got to see him in a game... suspect he ever so slightly mad!!!
As you would expect his announcement was interesting to say the least.... you can read about it here (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/diamondbacks/2003-09-26-grace-retires_x.htm)
It nice to see that the Cincinnati Reds and Barry Larkin have reached a deal to keep Larkin in Cincinnati for one final year before he retires.
The deal is for $700,000 plus a possible extra $300,000 in performance bonuses.
It seems to be rare that a player nowadays stays with the one team his whole career.
You can read the story here (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1625723)
Nelson Crowe
30-09-2003, 11:14
Originally posted by kjn6371
Are you worried yet Nelson?.
These five game things always worry me. A fluky bounce and a hot pitcher and you've got an upset. TV rules my country, though, so I have to suck it up. If there are going to be three rounds, they should all be best of 7.
All we have to do is get into that pen... (You can say the same thing, by the way...)
Sports Illustrated's view (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/baseball/mlb/specials/postseason/2003/09/28/braves.cubs.preview/index.html)
I was a bit surprised that Grover got the axe in Baltimore. Losing records tend to happen with lousy players.
I think that Chicago job is probably his. After years of Sgt. Manuel, they need a calming influence.
Who would you vote for all the awards this year?.
N.L. MVP Albert Pujols.
N.L. Cy Young Mark Prior.
N.L. Rookie ?
N.L. Manager Trader Jack.
A.L. MVP A-Rod.
A.L. Cy Young Roy Halladay.
A.L. Rookie ?.
A.L. Manager Ron Gardenhire.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
30-09-2003, 21:26
Yes, GarFra, where's my prize? ;) :nuts:
And the result of the first game of the play-offs:
Twins 3 - Yankees 1 \0/
Hello Nelson :wave:
CUBS WIN 4-2.
One down,two to go :thumbs:.
Nelson Crowe
01-10-2003, 04:32
I think we all know that the key play of the game was Fick muffing that double play grounder. Indifferent and sloppy defense, especially on the right side of the infield, hurt them repeatedly this year. (It almost bit them in the early going.) Over the long haul, it doesn't show. Now, it's telling.
And just for fun, the game was done on FOX by a guy who still sounds like what he used to be: a Cubs homer and a clueless oaf of a color man who hung a racist slur on Gary Sheffield on national TV last year w/o any consequences. Big fun.
Tune in tomorrow to see if the Braves can muster any heart. I'm sure Cox will think of something :rolleyes:
(If Prior wins the Cy Young, it's going to be an utter travesty. You can't have that many fewer wins than the league leader and win that award. It would be a joke.)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.fraser/baseball/mets_spoon.jpg
Very good G.
I've always found Thom to be a good broadcastor,what did 'Psycho' say about Sheffield Nelson?.
It isn't actually what I intended, but been sidetracked by home events, if I get time I'll finish what I intended..... he'll hate even more ;)
I see that the Baltimore Orioles has asked for and been granted permission by the Indians to interview Eddie Murray for Oriloes managers job.
:clap: He has been a great hitting coach for the Indians and if he gets the job with the Orioles I think he'll be a good manager for them.
Talking of the Mets - They have removed Vern Ruhle as their pitching coach, however they are going to reassign him to another position within the Mets organization (to save money?). :p
How do people feel about players that have left there team?... do you hope they fail or suceed?
Personally I was glad to see what Thome has done this year his first away from the Indians..... and just keep thinking what if :)
Cartain players you want to see succeed and others fail. Kinda depens if you liked that player and how they left your club imo.
What Ravy said,upset when Gracey left but pleased he won a ring with Arizona.Whilst the likes of Hundley I couldn't care less about.
Talking about Gracey.
Mark Grace
One time, Greg Maddux was pitching for the Cubs, and all of a sudden I see him grimacing and limping around. I thought he popped a groin or something. I came to the mound and I asked what was the matter.
Mad Dog was shall we say excited down below.
Mark Grace
I looked at him and I said, 'You know, dude, you really do love pitching, don't you?
:lol:.
kjn is it Gracey that is in the NASN advert doing the stare ala the pitcher?
Never really noticed G,I'll look out for it.
Nelson Crowe
02-10-2003, 07:46
Originally posted by GarFra
How do people feel about players that have left there team?... do you hope they fail or suceed?
I root for almost any former Brave, unless there are other considerations (I need his team to lose to enhance the Braves prospects, his team is actually playing the Braves at the time...)
Just today, I saw: Marquis Grissom, Andres Gallaraga, Randall Simon, Kenny Lofton, Jermaine Dye, Alan Embree and John Burkett, almost all of whom I usually root for to succeed.
To answer kjn's question: Last year on a Fox Saturday telecast, they had Sheffield miked up. He sat down, said something to Chipper about a pitch, and Lyons commented something about needing an Ebonics speaker to translate what he said. I was truly shocked but I must have been the only person to hear it, or care.
Oh, and Steve's a former Brave. I don't care for him too much.
Nelson Crowe
02-10-2003, 07:57
SF-Fla.:
Sidney Ponson is a bum. I'm sorry, but there is no other conclusion. I watch @ 100 Orioles games a year and I've watched this guy for years. He has a ton of potential, but I'm convinced he'll never turn the corner. If he does, it'll come too late for him to have a truly great career. He reminds me of the Curt Schilling I used to see pitch for Baltimore and Houston, before he went to Philly. Great arm but no idea how to utilize it or apparent interest in learning. He has, to quote Crash Davis, "A million dollar arm and a five cent head."
Atlanta-Chicago: What a great performance by Mike Hampton. The man is a bulldog. He looked DOA for a bit there and rallied brilliantly. Also, a wonderful job off the bench from Marcus Giles, who could barely run. I'm glad it was Derosa who came through, becausse he was hosed on the bases-loaded strikeout. That pitch was wide. And on that topic...Hunter Wendelstadt is also a bum. He was abominable behind the plate. No team got any advantage from it, because he was missing pitches right and left. Grossly inconsistent. He's only in the majors because his Father and Grandfather were NL umps, and his Dad still owns one of the training camps that MLB umpires are trained at. He is an incompetent, which is unfortunate for all concerned.
Boston-Oakland: If you haven't seen this one, DO SO. At all costs. An absolute and utter classic. Best game in the Playoffs (at any of the three levels) since the Braves-Astros staged that classic 12-inning Game 3 at the Astrodome in 1999. Pedro Martinez and Tim Hudson are two Warriors (and I rarely use that term in a sports context, but it fits them.) :clap:
Giants v Marlins (NASN) - It is great to see the Marlins.... they hussle and for me they play like as if every at bat their lives depended on it. I hope that the Marlins finally get a decent fan base out of this.
Braves v Cubs (FIVE) - Hampton :clap: I know he is yet to get back to what he was, but I would rather have Hampton at what he is now than a lot of pitchers are at their best. I really enjoyed this game and am really looking forward to game three.
..... and so my plan was to go to bed... but first catch a few innings of the Boston, Oakland game, so much for me getting some sleep. :)
Boston v Oakland (NASN) was amazing, the game of the night for me. It had everything and extra inning as well!!! .... the game went on so long the next thing I realised the wife and kids were awake!!
I now owe my 3-year old daughter one new toy as she 'allowed' me to watch the end of the game instead of cbeebies!! :p
If the rest of the games in these series as a good we are in for a real treat!!
Do you think America could adopt GMT?,these late night's are catching up with me.Although if the standard's as good as the past few day's it's a small price to pay.
kjn I really did try to resist this one..... honest!!! :D
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.fraser/baseball/sweep_no_more.gif
I suspect we are more like to adopt USA times than them adopt GMT after all we seem to adopt everything else American sooner or later :)
:oh-hum: I hope we play the Tribe next season G,it'll give me a chance to knock something up.
I'll get the sweep logo sorted out just now shall I? :D
Not saying for which team though!! :nuts:
:oh-hum: lack of sleep's sending you silly G,how can the Tribe sweep the World Series champs :nuts:.
:clap:
Too tired to think of a proper response......
..... but I will after some sleep! :razz:
MARK PRIOR
:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy
CUBS LEAD THE SERIES 2-1.
Nelson Crowe
04-10-2003, 03:50
Bad defense makes the baby Jesus cry.
Never mind Nelson,it'll all be over tomorrow :thumbs:.
Was a great game and I still not getting enough sleep!!!
The crowd were amazing... desperate almost!!! Cubs not been to the world series in a while have they??? :nuts:
Oh kjn (and the rest of you).... just to really make your weekends...
My wife was rather iritated at the amount of NASN I was watching and phoned up Ntl to cancel it this morning!!!!
I AM SOOOOOOOOOO DEAD NOW!!!
:wave:
:eek: :( hard luck G,still at least theres C5 to watch :lol:
Have you thought of a divorce G?,surely that's unreasonable behaviour.
Dr Hfuhruhurr
04-10-2003, 11:40
I think G means that it's on a 12 month contract - I imagine his wife will have found this out from ntl :lol:
It must be heaven to have NASN showing the play-offs especially as there seems to be so many great games. I managed to listen to some of the Cubs game last night on AFN. :nuts: I have to say that Prior is on fire :D I'd give him the Cy Young too. Ok he wasn't leading the league in wins but his era was better and he missed some time thru' injury. Lets hope the Cubbies can finish it off - a reasonable time for you too tonight kjn.
Nice one on the wooden spoon pic G. :thumbs:
Btw, I'm missing the thread big-style - even the Mets bashing! ;)
Take care guys. :wave:
Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
I'd give him the Cy Young too
Missing you too Doc and about time you talked some sense.
How can doc talk sense? .... He's a Mets fan there is no hope left for him! ;)
Yeah a certain person wanted to change a few things on the Ntl package we have, like add the Disney channels.... for some strange reason when she went to cancel NASN she found she couldn't!! ;)
Right now she is plotting her revenge... and all I know is that it will cost me money............. lots of it!! :suspect:
Can't you have ntl in another room G,we've got sky in 3.
Ditka :lol: WTF :gag: :eek:.Look's like it's going to 5 Nelson.
These games just get better and better!!
I hope all these teams don't get knackered before the World Series!!! ;)
So the Cubs v Braves now becomes a 1-game series..... as its a 1-game series now..... does it count as a sweep to the winner??
Nelson Crowe
05-10-2003, 22:59
COWBOY UP!!! :lol: :thumbs:
Nelson Crowe
06-10-2003, 02:57
Don't be. You and your team have earned it. Enjoy the feeling. ;)
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6699461.Ron Santo's due to have bladder surgery,I hope the op goes well.
Well I'm a happy man, although it was very touch and go for a while. Just the Yankee's to beat now, easy ;)
Nelson Crowe
07-10-2003, 04:40
The only thing that could have made tonight's game better was a good set of announcers. Josh Lewin was there, doing the field reporting, and he would have been so much better in the booth.
He's smart, enthusiastic (I watched a lot of his Rangers broadcasts this year and his spirit never wavered) and he doesn't feel the need to get up on a soapbox in the midst of a game-defining inning and hold forth on his Views Of The Game, unlike Brenneman (a habit he learned from his pompadoured blowhard of a Father, who has been mining the same vein doing Reds games since Eppa Rixey played for the team...)
Enough of that...
What a great ending to a great series. One thing I truly love about the current setup in the playoffs: this very opportunity to see the Yankees and Sox fight it out for the AL pennant, and not just the Eastern Division. This will be fun.
Blimey just got back from a few days away to find that the Giants and the Braves have been knocked out!
Who'd have thought that the NL pennant would be between the Cubs and the Marlins!
Originally posted by shufty
*cough* results? *cough*
www.mlb.com for some very detailed stats :)
Fantastic game/result last night. I haven't screamed at the telly like I did in the bottom of the 9th for a long time.
Did anyone else feel physically sick when they showed the slo-mo replay of Jackson/Damon collision? Glad to hear he's OK though.
Originally posted by Kryten
www.mlb.com for some very detailed stats :)
i just loads of errors on that site :( but thanks anyway
only wanted them because the doc asked me to text him the result.
Originally posted by shufty
i just loads of errors on that site :( but thanks anyway
only wanted them because the doc asked me to text him the result.
BOS 4 OAK 3
CHC 5 ATL 1
NYY 8 MIN 1
SF 6 FLA 7
Now Marlis vs. Cubs & Red Sox vs. Yankee's
Selma Blair's nice looking Nelson :norty:,good to see you're a Young One's fan.
Can these games get any better??
I have really enjoyed the baseball so far this year especially with the extra games on NASN (not sure if my wife agrees). :D
So which teams do people want to see in the final and who ultimately do you want to win (kjn you are banned from answering :p )
Just seen the report and box score of Gmae 1 of Marlins v Cubs. Looks like another entertaining game
Marline win 9-8 in 11 innings. The clubs combined for 7 homers including Sammy Sosa hitting a two-out two-run shot in the bottom of the ninth to send the game into exta innings :eek:
I must admit to really enjoying the games I saw while in Vegas last week especially the Cubs As games that ended with the squeeze play. We were in a bar when that started but my GF was so knackered we went to bed but I watched the whol thing while in bed. Cracking entertainment
Gonna be a Red Sox v Marlins world series this year ;)
Originally posted by Ravioli
Gonna be a Red Sox v Marlins world series this year ;)
I think it should be :) (With the Red Sox winning of course - have to support my local team)
I would love to see a Cubs v Red Sox World Series....... with a sweep by the Red Sox's as I have a lovely sweep logo especially made for this :p
Red Sox v _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /_ _ _ _.
oh oh!!! we playing hangman????
Now who could that 2nd team be??? :nuts:
Originally posted by kjn6371
Red Sox v _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /_ _ _ _ _ _ _.
Hmm who does he mean :p
Can you guess who it is yet?
Dr Hfuhruhurr
08-10-2003, 20:58
Originally posted by kjn6371
Can you guess who it is yet? Reminds me of the "Celebrity Poos" cartoon in Viz. My other favourite was [Captain Kirk]Captain's log.....[/Captain Kirk] :nuts:
Anyway, there's been some great baseball (even if I haven't seen most of it).
I'm hoping for a Cubs/Sox World Series. How great would it be to have 7 games in those ballparks. Plus all the history of them not winning a Series since 1918 etc.
The Yankees/Boston should be great too!
Woke up at 4am last night so I turned on AFN to hear Sammy hit the two run homer in the ninth - shame they didn't go on to win it.
Nelson Crowe
09-10-2003, 04:31
Angel Hernandez :lol: :suspect: :razz: As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon."
I'm so happy that Tim McClelland, (one of the three best umpires in baseball and the best ball and strike man, hands down [he called a brilliant game tonight. I don't think he missed a single pitch.]), was there to explain to Angel which way was "up". :oh-hum: :nono:
People at Yankee Stadium simply can't quite grasp that Baseball isn't a fan participation sport, can they? :cuckoo:
Another 2 cracking games
Another threat from my wife about NASN, sad thing is she didn't even realise one of the games was on Five.... how she gonna cancel that!!! :p
Oh and it was a homerun! :thumbs:
Originally posted by kjn6371
CUBS WIN 12-3.
Is that the odds on the Cubs to win the World Series or to even make it there?? :nuts: :p
Good 5-2 win for the Red Sox at Yankee stadium.......
ALCS Game 2 tonight probably starters: D. Lowe (0-0, 0.00), A. Pettitte (0-0, 0.00).
Originally posted by GarFra
Oh and it was a homerun! :thumbs:
I agree :D I didn't see all the game, but what I saw was excellent and of course a great win by the Sox at Yankee Stadium. I think game 2 will be a lot more difficult though as the Yankees will not be wanting to risk going 2 down heading to Fenway...
Originally posted by GarFra
Is that the odds on the Cubs to win the World Series or to even make it there?? :nuts: :p
Oh please stop,my sides are hurting.I had 80/1 on the Cubs winning the World Series at the start of the season,I've laid it off for a nice guarenteed profit.
:oh-hum: Is all I can say about last night. I pretty much expected it to happen but would have loved to have come to Fenway 2-0 up in the series, oh well all even into Fenway. Still have a chance to wrap it up at Fenway though with home-field advantage :)
I agree that going back to Fenway with a 2-0 lead would have been nice, but getting anything at Yankees stadium is always a good thing.
This has the makings of a cracking series.... just want it to have the right ending as well .... A Red Sox's victory :)
USATODAY is reporting that the LA Dodgers have 'finally' gotten a new owner after News Corp have reached an agreement with Frank McCourt to purchase the club.
However the Major league team owners must approve the sale before it can be finalized.
He is meant to be paying $400+ million for the club seems a bit pricey for a club that haven't made the playoffs since 1996 especially when you consider that the Anaheim Angels were sold last year for $184 million.
Anyone else visited the ESPN website having to put up with the really anoying adverts that get stuck up that mean you can't read the content of the pages??? :mad:
The Dodgers are a brand though G which would command a premium,similiar to say Liverpool over here.
No smart alec comments about the Cubs this time? :oh-hum: :nono: ;).
Originally posted by GarFra
Anyone else visited the ESPN website having to put up with the really anoying adverts that get stuck up that mean you can't read the content of the pages??? :mad:
Personally I stick with mlb.com as it seems to have good news on there and all the stats too.
The tickets to see any potential world series game at Fenway went on sale yesterday, we had 12 computers and 3 phones going in the office to get tickets from the earliest possoble momnet, and failed to get any for any game. They sold out in about 10 minutes!
Originally posted by kjn6371
No smart alec comments about the Cubs this time? :oh-hum: :nono: ;).
How about honest comments then? :nuts: :p
Kryten sorry to hear you didn't manage to get tickets, do a lot of these tickets get set aside for corperate people or is it just luck of the draw that you manage to get through to order tickets??
Planning a trip to the states with the family next year and intend to hit as many MLB games as I can, figure my wife will hit me as many times as she can when she finds out! :D
Cheeky scamp,at least the Cubbies are in the post season,no sign of the Tribe :wave:.
G,you're pushing it,she went mad about NASN,now you're planning to see some games on holiday :eek:.D-I-V-O-R-C-E.
I very lucky she doesn't believe in D-I-V-O-R-C-E, not so sure what are views are on murder... guess I might find out! :p
Good game tonight G,Rocket v Pedro.Hope Boston wins.
This is the kinda game you want to see.
And like you I hope Boston win, wonder what kind of welcome the Rocket will get this time? :D
Roger Roger Roger Roger Roger :lol:.
Nelson Crowe
12-10-2003, 00:53
The Vaunted Marlins Pitching Staff :rolleyes:
Hard to not smile seeing Dontrelle get his Double-A can squashed :clap:
Hey, kj...let me ask you a question (and anybody who likes a team who's been in this situation can chime in if you so desire): How do you feel about the big contribution the three late season acquisitions have made to this run the Cubs are on ? Do you feel like they're late comers or do you feel they're full fledged members, even though they weren't there all year? I think I know the answer, (and it would have been, and has been, mine, also), but I'll ask anyway.
I'll post some thoughts on the affair in Fenway today later. Anyone who likes Don Zimmer is advised to avoid it. Or likes Pedro, for that matter.
Originally posted by GarFra
Kryten sorry to hear you didn't manage to get tickets, do a lot of these tickets get set aside for corperate people or is it just luck of the draw that you manage to get through to order tickets??
Planning a trip to the states with the family next year and intend to hit as many MLB games as I can, figure my wife will hit me as many times as she can when she finds out! :D
Not sure, we were after general availability seats. However after tonight's porformance... Lets hope tomorrow if better.
To answer Nelson's question if they're wearing a Cubbies uniform they're part of the team IMO.Good piece of management by the team to get playes to provide a final push into the play-offs.
Pretty bad scences at Fenway,I hope it doesn't get worse at Yankee Stadium.
Nelson Crowe
12-10-2003, 10:28
That's how I feel, too. Luis Polonia and (especially) Mike Devereaux (who was NLCS MVP) made huge contributions in '95. (And I had loved Devo when he was w/ Baltimore, so that was just a little icing on that cake.)
I have enjoyed seeing Randall Simon thrive. Cox never would plug him in and just let him play. Like Wes Helms, he's blossomed once he got a chance to play every day. (Randall is close friends w/ Andruw, they're both from Curacao.)
Nelson Crowe
12-10-2003, 10:32
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
I forsee a rerun of 1997.
Bad bullpen + Inconsistent defense + braindead manager = another grey October for your truly.
At least Season 5 of Deep Space Nine comes out on DVD on the 7th.
The only thing keeping me from full Paul Atreides Godhood is that the bullpen was actually fine this year.
I've enjoyed my DS9 set :thumbs:
Another couple of blast's from the past.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Annika Sorenstam is about to become the first woman to play in a PGA Tour event since 1945,which was the last time the Cubbies won a Natiuonal League pennant.The signs are all pointing to October when the World Series comes to Chicago.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Get your savings,re-mortage your house,raid your kid's money boxes and get down the bookie's and lump on the Cubbies.You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams :nuts:.
Does anybody want this weeks lottery numbers? :thumbs: :nuts:.
Originally posted by kjn6371
Does anybody want this weeks lottery numbers? :thumbs: :nuts:.
No thanks, I'll stick to my lucky dip line :)
Kjn - I know not the resulted you wanted, but I thought the pitching in the Cubs - Marlins game was tremedous and a great display of pitching by Josh Beckett & Carlos Zambrano.
So do you think you'll finish off the Fish in game six or will it go down to the wire and require a game seven??
Great performance by Beckett,I'll think we'll do it tonight behind Prior (bullpen permitting :help:).
This isn't looking good for us :( 3-2 down heading to Yankee Stadium tomorrow, I think its going to take a bit of a miracle to win this...
I hope that stupid bugger get's the crap beat out of him :nono:.That was our best chance because I think Florida may win it now.Come on Kerry :thumbs:.
Nelson Crowe
15-10-2003, 03:48
:lol: You are remarkably poised, brother. I'm impressed :notworthy
Seems like it's always Game 6...
Marlins v Yankees world series then ;)
Nelson Crowe
15-10-2003, 09:27
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/031015/ids_photos_sp/r494799497.jpg
:nuts: I've just finished watching the Cubs /Marlins game(replay) on NASN and the lad that tried to catch the foul ball had to be escorted out of the stadium for his own safety!!!:lol:
Just read the report of Cubs vs Marlins :eek:
That bloke will be in some serious crap if the Cubs don;t win game 7
Nelson Crowe
15-10-2003, 10:58
Incidentally, I had around half an hour of intense rain about 7:30 and it apparently knocked the local Fox station (and the WB station), off of the air for @ 4-5 hours. I didn't see a single pitch.
I kept checking the scoreboard that runs at the bottom of the screen on ESPN News and when it was 3-0 in the 8th, I thought it was a foregone conclusion. I checked back maybe 15 minutes later and I thought that new score had to be a typo...
Originally posted by platty
and the lad that tried to catch the foul ball had to be escorted out of the stadium for his own safety!!!:lol:
I bet he feels like a right donut :p
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
and when it was 3-0 in the 8th, I thought it was a foregone conclusion.
It must have seemed like a Braves game then Nelson ;).
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/fan15.html,more about that fan,life's going to be tough for him if the Cubbies don't win tonight.
Shock horror we've taken it to a 7th game, I thought we were out of it when we were 6-4 down after the 5th but a superb 7th inning and then a nice homer from Nixon in the 9th let us breath another day :) Now its Perdo v Clemmens tomorrow, and Perdo will want revenge for Saturday :D
This is for kjn6371:
:wave: :wave:
Originally posted by kjn6371
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/fan15.html,more about that fan,life's going to be tough for him if the Cubbies don't win tonight.
Terrible shame for the guy.
I liked what the commentator said during the game about him and how it was wrong what people were putting him through.
Originally posted by Kryten
Shock horror we've taken it to a 7th game, I thought we were out of it when we were 6-4 down after the 5th but a superb 7th inning and then a nice homer from Nixon in the 9th let us breath another day :) Now its Perdo v Clemmens tomorrow, and Perdo will want revenge for Saturday :D
Was a great game, glad it has gone to a 7th game.... hope the Red Sox's can do it :)
I thought when Boston got the homerun in the 9th that they should be safe (as safe as you can be at Yankees stadium) and shouted out....... unfortunately I woke everyone up and now in dog house today!! :D
Nelson Crowe
16-10-2003, 08:57
This is the frst time since the format was switched to best of seven, rather than the previous best of five, that both leagues have had their series go the full allotment in the same year. It's the first NL series to go seven since the Braves-Cardinals classic in 1996.
Just as a baseball fan, it's good to see this much high quality action.
:nono: reports Rav to moderators :oh-hum: :cry: :cry: :cry:.
Originally posted by GarFra
Was a great game, glad it has gone to a 7th game.... hope the Red Sox's can do it :)
If the Red Sox win, that'll be the 2nd year in a row that both wildcard teams make the world series.........
Quite interesting, when you consider teams like Atlanta, that seem to win their division comfortably and then fail in the playoffs. There must be something said for playing "must win" baseball right up to the end of season.
Sorry for your team Kjn ... joking aside I was kinda hopeful that they would make the World Series as I had a great question to ask you just before it started ;)
Oh it was nothing :)
Just wanted to know if any manager has lost the World Series 2-years in a row while managing 2 different teams? :nuts:
Not as funny now as you didn't make it..... but I would have loved to hear your reply if you had and before the games had taken place :D
Hopefully it'll be Cubs v Indians World Series next year :clap:
Nelson Crowe
16-10-2003, 10:59
Originally posted by Ravioli
Quite interesting, when you consider teams like Atlanta, that seem to win their division comfortably and then fail in the playoffs. There must be something said for playing "must win" baseball right up to the end of season.
I would like to agree, but the Braves won in just that fashion in 1993 (pre-Wild Card, no margin for error), winning 104 games while San Francisco won 103 and had to stay home.
Of course you all know that Atlanta was then beaten by (IMHO) a markedly inferior team, the Philadelphia Phillies (one of the single most disgusting baseball teams in the history of the game that year :razz: )
I've always felt the pressure and effort of overcoming a 10+ games second-half deficit to beat the Giants wore them down and left them vulnerable. The two best teams in baseball that year were SF and Atlanta, Toronto be damned.
(Unlike 1992, when things fell like they should have. For once...)
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
I would like to agree, but the Braves won in just that fashion in 1993 (pre-Wild Card, no margin for error), winning 104 games while San Francisco won 103 and had to stay home.
Of course you all know that Atlanta was then beaten by (IMHO) a markedly inferior team, the Philadelphia Phillies (one of the single most disgusting baseball teams in the history of the game that year :razz: )
I've always felt the pressure and effort of overcoming a 10+ games second-half deficit to beat the Giants wore them down and left them vulnerable. The two best teams in baseball that year were SF and Atlanta, Toronto be damned.
(Unlike 1992, when things fell like they should have. For once...)
You mean we were right to beat you in 92 :p
The Phillies did go from being the worst team in the NL in 92 to winning the pennant in 93. So watch out for the Tigers next year ;)
There is an excellent article in todays Independent
Check it out (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=453684)
Nelson Crowe
16-10-2003, 22:55
Originally posted by Ravioli
You mean we were right to beat you in 92 :p
Well..."right" isn't a word that I would use, but the stronger team won. If the Braves had been able to finish off that win in game two and headed north w/ a 2-0 lead, they might have been able to pull an upset, but when Reardon (who's very much persona non grata among Braves fans for this) put on Derek Bell and gave up that gopher ball to Sprague, all real hope probably disappeared.
'93 w/ McGriff and Maddux added to the lineup and Avery back on form...would've been a diffferent story.
That year and '96 stick in my craw. All else I can deal with.
Nelson Crowe
17-10-2003, 04:27
I hate Baseball.
Just read the report and all I can see is come on you Marlins.
Originally posted by GregB
Just read the report and all I can see is come on you Marlins.
I think we all share that sentiment :|
Originally posted by Ravioli
I think we all share that sentiment :|
150% :|
It pains me to say it but Go Yankees :eek: :oh-hum:.
Originally posted by kjn6371
It pains me to say it but Go Yankees :eek: :oh-hum:.
Burn the heretic
Now we have 2 East coast teams (as opposed to last year), does that means games will start earlier?
Originally posted by Ravioli
Now we have 2 East coast teams (as opposed to last year), does that means games will start earlier?
Just checkd MLB.com and the schedule is as follows. the times are all EST so we'll get em at 12.30 or 1am
Game 1 Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sat. Oct. 18 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 2 Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sun. Oct. 19 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 3 New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Tue. Oct. 21 8 p.m. FOX
Game 4 New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Wed. Oct. 22 8 p.m. FOX
Game 5* New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Thu. Oct 23 8 p.m. FOX
Game 6* Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sat. Oct 25 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 7* Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sun. Oct 26 7:30 p.m. FOX
Originally posted by GregB
Just checkd MLB.com and the schedule is as follows. the times are all EST so we'll get em at 12.30 or 1am
Game 1 Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sat. Oct. 18 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 2 Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sun. Oct. 19 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 3 New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Tue. Oct. 21 8 p.m. FOX
Game 4 New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Wed. Oct. 22 8 p.m. FOX
Game 5* New York Yankees at Florida Marlins Thu. Oct 23 8 p.m. FOX
Game 6* Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sat. Oct 25 7:30 p.m. FOX
Game 7* Florida Marlins at New York Yankees Sun. Oct 26 7:30 p.m. FOX
That'll be a no then :(
Originally posted by Ravioli
That'll be a no then :(
Annoying for me too, I like the 4pm games as we watch them on the big projector at work. The 8pm games I watch at home.
Originally posted by kjn6371
It pains me to say it but Go Yankees :eek: :oh-hum:.
Now, now Doc how did you get a hold of Kjn's login for the forums?? :nuts:
I know that the Marlins beat the Indians in the World Series years ago, but even though they did that I still cannot bring myself to support the Yankees.
So it has to be
COME ON YOU MARLINS!!!
:clap:
I've had a bet on the Yankees,love to see the other team do well but The Empire Strikes Back.
As well as Yankees outright,I've gone NY to win 4-0 and 4-1.
Come on the Bronx Bombers!.
So what do people think of the World Series so far?
Nelson Crowe
21-10-2003, 11:22
The usually pivotal Game 3 is tonight. We'll have a much better idea how this Series will progress after this game, at least IMHO.
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
The usually pivotal Game 3 is tonight. We'll have a much better idea how this Series will progress after this game, at least IMHO.
I agree, "come on the Marlins" :D
NASN are showing game 6 of the '75 World Series tonight,I'll think I'll watch this instead of this years one.A chance to see the original Pudge :notworthy.
4-3 win for the Marlins in 12, it'll go to 6 games at least now :)
Originally posted by Ravioli
4-3 win for the Marlins in 12, it'll go to 6 games at least now :)
Had nightmares of the Yankees winning the game after what the did in the 9th.... then to escape bases loaded and for them not to get a run!!
Just wish the Marlins had won it in 9 innings as I really need my sleep!!! :p
Only managed to watch the first 3 innings before going to bed but the umpiring call against the Marline in the 1st was a shocker. really glad they escaped from that with only conceding one run
Originally posted by GregB
Only managed to watch the first 3 innings before going to bed but the umpiring call against the Marline in the 1st was a shocker. really glad they escaped from that with only conceding one run
You mean at the top of the 2nd?
TBH the umpires made two shockers against the Marlins in the first two innings. The Yankees wouldn't have had any runs had Matsui been correctly called out in the 2nd :(
Good game last night,after watching the baseball I switched over to see the Test.
How are the umpire picked for the World Series?
Is it complete umpire crews or do they grab people they think are the best from different crews.
Some of the decisions in last nights game were terrible!!.... thankfully the result was the same, but it could have been different.
Originally posted by GarFra
do they grab people they think are the best from different crews.
I think it's this G,what about the drugs row that's going on at the moment :eek:.
Yeah the drugs thing is a bit of a shocker as it is covering a very wide range of sports and sporting people.
Nelson Crowe
24-10-2003, 10:53
Originally posted by GarFra
How are the umpire picked for the World Series?
Is it complete umpire crews or do they grab people they think are the best from different crews.
There was once a merit system in place, with the Umpires secretly grading their own, but that was eventually scrapped in favor of an "Everybody gets a turn" policy with predictably disastrous results. Now, with the Umpires in a rather less commanding position in their collecctive bargaining, I'm actually not sure.
I've seen Gary Darling and Angel Hernandez (who had to be overruled by Tim McClelland on that foul pole home run of Walker's in Game 1 of the ALCS, if you remember...) active so far this postseason, so I know it's not strict merit, because those two are widely considered bums by all concerned.
The Braves were in the same position the Marlins are in at this stage in 1991. I hope it comes out better for them. (An object lesson in how much I despise the Yankees...I'm rooting for Florida :(...)
I've listened to some of this on 5live the last two nights and it's pretty good! I might try and catch the next game on C5 :)
<-- also supporting Florida :D
When it comes to umpires that are to umpire the World Series then they should go for the best regardless.... not everyone gets a turn.
The World Series is meant to be the best 2 teams in the world (okay the USA), so surely the people that are to make the decisions on the bases should also be the best.
And as for Angel Hernandez :cuckoo: is the best way to describe the man and some of the decisions he has made this year.
Originally posted by GarFra
The World Series is meant to be the best 2 teams in the world
So how come the Cubbies aren't playing then :cry:.
Nelson is the drug thing getting much media attention over in the States?.
Originally posted by kjn6371
So how come the Cubbies aren't playing then :cry:.
Cause I thought we agreed it would be the Cubs v Indians next year!! :nuts:
Nelson Crowe
26-10-2003, 02:49
Originally posted by GarFra
The World Series is meant to be the best 2 teams in the world (okay the USA), so surely the people that are to make the decisions on the bases should also be the best.
That went into the toilet in 1995, and possibly in 1969.
To answer kjn's question: no, the steroids thing isn't getting much attention. I think it might if any testimony gets leaked out, especially if it's juicy.
Finally:
(World Series Game 6 result-related. Don't read if you don't want to know...)Happy Happy!! Joy Joy!! And Andy Pettite takes the loss!! I'm wetting myself with glee!!
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
(World Series Game 6 result-related. Don't read if you don't want to know...)Happy Happy!! Joy Joy!! And Andy Pettite takes the loss!! I'm wetting myself with glee!!
Great game and a great result, I think that was the result that most people here wanted to see........ and Nelson..... the bit about wetting yourself??..... that was TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!! :p
Nelson Crowe
26-10-2003, 11:43
A little hyperbole, GF. Not actually true. :wave:
:clap: :clap: :clap: I'm very happy with the result :D
Bobby Valentine is reportedly close to signing a deal to manage the Chiba Lotte Marines,the Japanese Pacific League team he led in 1995.I know he's not to everyone's taste but I've enjoyed him on Baseball Tonight.
I have to agree with you regarding Bobby on Baseball Tonight, he has been highly enjoyable to watch on there.
If he does go and manage I'll miss him, not something I ever thought I would say.
Grady's gone from the Red Sox,any news on his replacement Kryten?.
http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=236823
From the general forum.
Originally posted by Shufty
he still comes on every now and then - usually to post in his geek thread over on the sports forum.
:eek: :nono:.
I guess Grady is suffering from not making it to the World Series. :|
I actually thought he was a good manager for the Red Sox's, wonder who they'll go after for the job?
Gare/will you be watching much of NASN now the baseball's finished?.I'm trying to get into the Ice Hockey but I'm counting the days to Opening Day already.
I have tried to get into the Ice Hockey, but while I'll watch it when its on I won't go out of my way to watch it, I also don't have any particular team that I support which I guess doesn't help :)
Can't wait for the new season of baseball to start, but I get the feeling there will be plenty to talk about with new managers etc etc.... Grady Little being the first of a few moves that are bound to happen.
Nelson Crowe
28-10-2003, 02:47
This is why the Red Sox will never win. Childish impatience and an incessant need to please their ignorant, complaining, mewling fans. :cuckoo:
This is it for me. I've followed the Sox on a casual and occasionally more, basis since @ 1984 (and I really liked some of the late 70's teams, also), but it's over. :mad:
This is the kind of decision, both for it's absurdity and it's effect on my support, that Frank Williams made when he canned Damon Hill, just as Damon was handing him the F1 trophy. I was so infuriated by that that I began (while holding my nose) to enjoy seeing Schumacher win, just to see steam come out of FW's nose.
Ridiculous, indefensible and just plain dumb. What a bunch of buffoons. :blah:
And John Henry is a wimpy twit. :razz:
There's a Yankee fan,Red Sox fan,Marlins fan and a Cubbies fan who are climbing to the top of a mountain.During the climb they talk about how loyal they are and how they would do anything for their teams.
At the summit the Marlins fan jumps off the mountain shouting "This is for the Marlins"
The Cubs fan follows him and he shouts "This is for the Cubbies".
Finally the Red Sox fan shouts "This is for everyone" and pushes the Yankee fan off.
Ron Santo is recovering from his recent surgery.He's had his bladder removed and but is not 'out of the woods yet'.Very sad news I hope comes through it okay and is back in the booth.
Nelson Crowe
30-10-2003, 10:41
Originally posted by kjn6371
There's a Yankee fan,Red Sox fan,Marlins fan and a Cubbies fan who are climbing to the top of a mountain.During the climb they talk about how loyal they are and how they would do anything for their teams.
At the summit the Marlins fan jumps off the mountain shouting "This is for the Marlins"
The Cubs fan follows him and he shouts "This is for the Cubbies".
Finally the Red Sox fan shouts "This is for everyone" and pushes the Yankee fan off.
:clap: :lol:
Actually, I think the Marlins fan would take a helicopter up to the summit.
Nelson I keep hearing a rumour that 'Mad Dog's' going to San Diego,have you heard anything?.If he does leave the Braves be nice to see him back at Wrigley.
Nelson Crowe
31-10-2003, 22:07
It's generally considered that he's going to leave Atlanta, but where he's going to go is apparently up in the air. There were a lot of rumors a year ago that Jerry Colangelo was keen to add him to the D-Backs rotation and have three big name starters, but I haven't heard that lately. I think he still has a home in Las Vegas, so he'll likely go west, somewhere.
I hate to see him get #300 somewhere else, and I hope he wears a Braves cap on his HOF plaque, but it's time for him to move along.
Houston's traded Billy Wagner to the Phillies in exchange for Duckworth and prospects.I wonder if Vera's happy?.
Good pick-up for the Philles and who care what Vera's thinks anyway he is/was crap as a closer anyway :)
Is Billy Wagnet look anything lik Billy Wagner??? :p
Who's Wagnet G? :confused:.And the word is like ;).
I wish some trades who happen, its kinda boring at the moment.
No Baseball = GarFra :brickwall
No Baseball = JoFra :clap:
I see its reported that Bobby Valentine has signed a 3-year deal to manage in Japan. I'll miss him on ESPN as I actually liked him on there!!
Shouldn't we let this thread die and start a new one next year? :p
Nelson Crowe
03-11-2003, 22:48
Maybe we can start an off season thread, covering all the player movement and news items. Call it the Hot Stove Thread and let it expire on March 31st next year, when we start the new season.
Ozzie Guillen was hired to manage the White Sox today. He's a wonderful guy and I hope he's wildly successful :thumbs:
Look for Wagner to get up in Bowa's face next year if Larry questions his desire. Billy's from right down the road from me and he's a tough, tough little fellow.
dtsrules
03-11-2003, 22:56
Originally posted by Nelson Crowe
Maybe we can start an off season thread, covering all the player movement and news items. Call it the Hot Stove Thread and let it expire on March 31st next year, when we start the new season.
Sounds like a plan, will close this one then.
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